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 Author Stephen Prothero gives his list for the 12 most influential Catholics in America.
March 2nd, 2012
01:06 PM ET
My Take: America's 12 Most Influential Catholics
By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN (CNN) - Anyone who is old enough to remember Sen. John F. Kennedy’s run for president in 1960 knows that this used to be not just a Christian country, but a Protestant one. Admittedly, the Constitution makes the United States secular by law, but for most of our history, we have been Protestant by choice. All that has changed in recent years. We now have a Catholic speaker of the House (John Boehner), a Catholic House minority leader (Nancy Pelosi) and a Catholic vice president (Joe Biden). Six of the nine justices on the Supreme Court are Catholics. And that guy duking it out with Mitt Romney for the GOP nomination? Rick Santorum is Catholic, too. It wasn’t so long ago that U.S. Protestants were burning down Catholic convents to protest efforts by the Vatican to infiltrate American society and take it over from within. Today, you don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see that Catholics now occupy some of the most powerful positions in the land. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories Which leads me to today’s top 12 list of America’s most influential Catholics: 1-6: Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Sonia Sotomayor I know that justices are supposed to stick to interpreting the law rather than making it, especially if they adhere to the judicial philosophy of “original intent,” but I’m not buying it. When it comes to “judicial activism,” there are really only two kinds of judges: those who know they are acting and those who wrongly imagine they are not. Throughout U.S. history, the Supreme Court has played nearly as important a role as the presidency on the race question, and a more important role than the U.S. Congress. Women seeking abortions do so under a regime written and enforced by the courts. In a 2011 speech at Duquesne University School of Law, Scalia denied that his Catholicism affected his legal decisions. I’m not buying that either, which is why he and the five other Catholics on the Supreme Court occupy half of this list. 7: Speaker of the House John Boehner As any child (or parent) can attest, the word “no” is powerful indeed, and as the leader of the House Republicans, John Boehner wields that power today. Before he gave the commencement address at Catholic University last spring, more than 80 professors at that university wrote an open letter to Boehner saying that the budget he pushed through the House contradicted Catholic social teachings by neglecting the poor. But Boehner continues to say “no” to the Obama administration, most recently on its decision to require Catholic-affiliated employers to cover birth control services in their health plans. 8. Vice President Joe Biden The first Catholic vice president of the United States, Joe Biden wields by most accounts more power than many vice presidents in American history. (Remember Spiro Agnew?) And though Biden has ruffled the feathers of church authorities on the abortion question, he is an observant Catholic who attends church regularly and met with Pope John Paul II four times. “The animating principle of my faith, as taught to me by church and home,” Biden told the Christian Science Monitor in 2007, “was that the cardinal sin was abuse of power.” 9. Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania For a while, Newt Gingrich was the Catholic Republican front-runner, but that title has been seized by Rick Santorum. Unlike Gingrich, who converted in 2009, Santorum is a cradle Catholic, and he's a more convincing fellow traveler in Christ to the religious right. Everyone thought this election was going to be about the economy, but Santorum's mantra seems to be, "It's the culture, stupid." Santorum has grabbed headlines in recent weeks by calling President Obama a purveyor of a "phony theology" and otherwise keeping questions of faith not just on the front burner, but at a rolling boil. This weekend, Santorum said that John F. Kennedy's famous church/state speech, in Houston in 1960, made him want to "throw up" when he first read it. "I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute," he told ABC News on Sunday. 10. Archbishop Timothy Dolan It says something about Catholic authority today that it is hard to think of a member of the Catholic hierarchy who stands among the most influential U.S. Catholics. But Archbishop of New York Timothy Dolan is the most likely person for this honor. A theological conservative, Dolan was elected president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in 2010, and he was elevated to cardinal in Rome last month. In 2008, Dolan took on Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi for their views on abortion, and in 2009, he criticized the University of Notre Dame for inviting President Obama to speak at its commencement. 11. Stephen Colbert The man behind the Super PAC Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow will not be happy to learn that he fell outside the top 10 here, but he is still one of the most influential Catholics in the United States today. Colbert makes his political jabs with a smile, but they sting nonetheless. Last year, The Washington Post asked whether Colbert was “Catholicism’s best pitch man,” and he does put a very different face on a church that has been best known in recent years for sex scandals. Both Colbert and the character he plays on “The Colbert Report” are committed Catholics. In fact, Colbert (the character) loves his Catholicism so much that he gave it up last year for Lent. Colbert (the real person) regularly books Catholics on his show and has appointed Father James Martin, S.J., as the show’s official chaplain. With Martin and other theists (and atheists), Colbert regularly discusses matters of faith. In fact, his character often gives guests discussing such questions wider berth than his more political guests. 12. Blogger Andrew Sullivan In another era, this final slot might have gone to Garry Wills, a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and public intellectual whose writing regularly addresses the intersection of faith and politics in the United States. But we now live in a digital age, so the nod goes to Andrew Sullivan, the Brit behind “The Dish,” a popular blog now hosted by The Daily Beast. The thumbnail bio is that Sullivan is gay, Catholic and conservative, but his blog is far more nuanced (and coherent) than readers might imagine from that trifecta. In part because of his unpredictability, his site is the go-to blog for all things political and cultural. And the reading is easy because of Sullivan’s refusal to pull his punches. (Obama’s “uninspiring” state of the union was, in his words, a litany of “cramped, tedious, mediocre micro-policies.”) The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.
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1-6: Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Sonia Sotomayor
Ahh maybe, but they can drop Clarence-sleeping-through-the-oral-arguments-Thomas. He is THE MOST UN-influential person I can think of. He is an embarrassment to himself, and the country. He should just resign, and go away.
Prothero.....he can't jump.
America's 12 biggest liars and/or 12 most in need of the help of mental health professionals. Rick Santorum gets added title of Biggest Asshole.
I'm not sure if this article shows that Catholics suck, or that "influential people" suck. Might be a combination.
Porthero-I have no comments but one observation.
Can you please change that profile picture of yours? That stare scares the reader.
TIA!
oopsy, I misspelt your name Prothero. Apologies.
god hates women! women shouldn't whorship a hater of them – thats stupid...unless they are stupid themselves...that actually makes sense considering the placement of belief!
That is true HP, the bible is very clear. God hates women big time. I don't understand why there are female Christians either.
Hippy, God loves all His children. Male and female forms are created by Him to be born of women to come to earth so we can be fruitful and multiply. When we die in this human form, we all go back to Him in spiritual form which are/were always male. The reason God chose some spirits to become female in human form is because they are mentally and spiritually stronger than the other hearts (aka minds) to endure child birth and other hardships of life due to sinners in the human form.
Amen.
That is not what the bible says HS. Are you going to believe the bible or the stuff you make up?
Hey just sayin, why don't you quit name calling like a child and debate my argurments against prayer?
He can't there is no proof of anything that he's spewing, his only tactic is to disagree without any factual evidence.
It was rhetorical but you are quite correct. I can live with the beliver who at least tries, but just sayin is too lazy to even attempt any reasonable conversation on either a topic or an article. Very boring.
Proofs have been given and accepted for quite awhile now sorry you all missed them.
Proofs have also been given and accepted that your god is a nothing more than a figment imagination. guess you missed that too
@just sayin
Yup, lazy and nothing to say. As usual.
The only thing anyone missed is evidence that you have any working brain cells, you moron.
Not only has "just sayin nothing" not produced any studies showing prayer works or evidence that the studies that show prayer does not work are wrong, she/he/it has not produced any evidence to show their god even exists. Clearly if god does not exist prayers can't possibly work so it looks like she/he/it needs to establish a foundation so that prayer might be able to work.
hotair how many of Americas top 12 catholics live in canada? go screw yourself ass hole. There's your sign
I guess Captain Asshole is upset that he didn't make the top 12 catholic list. And there's certainly no chance he will make it onto a Top X USA Ambassadors list. When does the Top 10 USA Bible Belt Brain Dead Redneck list come out?
News flash for hotair mind your own F'n business you are not of any use to US and probably no use were you live. There's your sign
What the religious assholes (Rick Santorum and Newt "The Fornicator" Gingrich, as current examples) in the USA might do to the rest of the world is my, and everyone's, business, and pricks like you do nothing to lessen our concerns, or enhance the USA's reputation abroad. You are the epitome of the ugly american.
You don't live here you don't vote here your opinion of our politicians is worth less than dog crap.There's your sign
Do unto others
As you would have them do to you
Said the rap.ist
A rapist and a papist went into a bar and ... well that didn't go anywhere. Do you imagine I'm anatomically correct hippy?
did you just admitt to being a rap.ist?
Herbie is the only one 'admitting' to anything.
there is a herbie the hand job
Poor simple Tom,Tom. It is soooo very hard for sweetums to understand when sweetums can't read what is posted. All together now for poor widdle Tom, Tom Awwwwwwwww
Oh, get a clue, you moron. No one is fooled by your idiocy, you fucked up boob.
You seem to be coming along. Pretty soon we'll be able to let you post on your own.
Awwwwww Tom, Tom I feel so bad for you. Poor mixed up widdle thing. There, there precious, maybe someday you will be able to understand things. For now it will be O.K. I don't think less of you because of your condition. Your secret is safe with me.
Pretend all you want to, or need to, honey.
If you are so bereft of self-esteem that you need to gain some from denigrating me, feel free.
I am not that needy.
Uh, yes you are Tom.
So says the eunuch.
Oh roger you in all of your orifices just sayin.
The law schools that many of these border line Catholics attended (e.g. Yale and Harvard ) have a much larger influence.
One through eight are largely irrelevant. Biden's f-bomb drop on the red carpet was priceless. He talked to the pope with that mouth? Nine is a buffoon, and I don't even know who ten and twelve are. Colbert is a comedian, does anyone take what he says seriously? He's like Gingrich!
Jesus is supposed to be God. God is supposed to be perfect.
When Jesus speaks, he should speak the truth.
Yet when we look at what Jesus says about prayer,
he is clearly lying.
Here is one of MANY examples:
In John chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells all of us just how easy prayer can be:
"I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
You can gather a million faithful believers together into a giant prayer circle. Have them all pray together in Jesus' name that God cures every case of cancer on the planet tomorrow. Pray sincerely, knowing that when God answers this completely heartfelt, unselfish, non-materialistic prayer, it will glorify God and help millions of people in remarkable ways.
Now, we certainly have two or more people gathered together (Jesus liked the two or more thing), and they have asked in Jesus' name, and we have not one but a million faithful believers who, by definition, have faith and believe. We have fulfilled every one of Jesus' requirements.
Will Jesus answer the prayer now? Of course not. Your prayer will go unanswered, in direct defiance to Jesus' promises in the Bible. In fact, if you pray for anything that is impossible, your prayer will always go unanswered.
There is many reasons prayer can go unanswered, from sin to asking for the wrong reasons.
There is many reasons for your bad grammar, but there is not many reasons for prayer not working. God is imaginary.
In James 5:15-16 the Bible says:
And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. IF HE HAS SINNED HE WILL BE FORGIVEN. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
More lies.
Lies to who? I find much truth in that verse. I've seen sick healed. I've seen the lost found.(from which I'm one of) Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't make it a lie. You have to seek forgiveness before you can be forgiven.
@a person of the name
You are either not reading or not comprehending my posts.
Lies to His followers.
The so-called answered prayers you claim to have witnessed are merely natural phenomena. Nothing is magical, and if a prayer preceded the event then we have what rational people call a coincidence.
However, that was not my point. Jesus clearly lies in the bible about prayer. Many times over. That is the topic on the table.
a person of the Name – you claim to have been healed huh.... please, you have me enthrawled... you must tell the story!
No, I understood. Jesus, is God in flesh and he does not lie. I have seen what I have seen and nothing you say can change that. What I see though you, is someone has made you very bitter and I am sorry for that. Now though I'm afraid our conversation is at an end. I most get the kids ready for church tonight. Best of wishes to you.
@ a person of the name
So if I read the bible and report back what it says, that makes me bitter? I don't understand.
Church is so fun for the kids, especially on Friday night! lol, poor things.
Past the seeker as he prayed
came the crippled
and the beggar
and the beaten.
And seeing them... he cried,
"Great God, how is it that a loving creator
can see such things
and yet do nothing about them?"
God said,
"I did do something.
I made
YOU."
~Anonymous
Prayer is the joy of life.
so is prayer is the joy in your life then your life must totally suck by any standards but your own! just sayin! lol dum.b sh!t
Mine and millions of others for thousands of years leading into forever.
"Prayer is the joy of life."
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.
Did you forget to switch handles?
There's the proof. Sooner or later.
Never study studies, studies are misleading, study God
"Never study studies, studies are misleading,"
All our our knowledge and research comes from studies. Wow are you an idiot.
All knowledge comes to mankind from God because someone asked for it in prayer
"All knowledge comes to mankind from God because someone asked for it in prayer"
Wow are you an idiot and a liar.
No.
"No."
Seeing as there is a high percentages of scientists that are atheist they learned nothing from your god or prayer. You are a liar.
You asked, I answered and then you still come back with an opposite opinion? What is wrong with you?
"You asked, I answered and then you still come back with an opposite opinion? What is wrong with you?"
Just letting the readers know what an idiot and liar you are.
You'd be wrong but you can be wrong if you want to be Pat
"You'd be wrong but you can be wrong if you want to be Pat"
I am not wrong in the fact you are a liar and an idiot. Others posting have also pointed it out.
same sh!t different day.
your post proves that prayers don't change a thing – i took your advice and prayed last night, to have you not post here again...yet here you are, wasting air continuely everyday!
A few moronic atheists do not consti tute a quorum or a valid opinion, sorry. Start a club you can all be wrong together.
leave the twit alone – its not worth more then one condescending remark, no point to even check for a response – they too are worthless.
if this creature had it in it to argue... a proper one would have been posed a while ago instead of this meaningless string of spew that never changes – ironic really considering the post!
"A few moronic atheists do not consti tute a quorum or a valid opinion, sorry. Start a club you can all be wrong together."
We don't have too your constant posting of the same shit proves you're an idiot and a liar.
Your judgement is meaningless Pat, you have no authority and no relevance to what is being discussed.
"Your judgement is meaningless Pat, you have no authority and no relevance to what is being discussed."
More lies and yet you keep responding so it must be relevant. LOL!
hippypoet
Prayer is talking with God. God wants us to talk to Him. You can't pray away an encouragement to prayer. Prayer is a joy to be shared !
"Prayer is talking with God. God wants us to talk to Him. You can't pray away an encouragement to prayer. Prayer is a joy to be shared !"
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.
I keep hoping the light will come on for you Pat but it looks like, as far as you are concerned, it is time to change the bulb.
"I keep hoping the light will come on for you Pat but it looks like, as far as you are concerned, it is time to change the bulb."
More lies on top of more lies your poor ego can't handle that you're wrong.
just sayin...i got a question for ya – are you a woman.....if not, do you respect women....i have evidence that if your a woman then you should shut you mouth and since i'm a man you should listen.... or i have evidence that since your a man you shouldn't really respect women....have you read your bible recently? check out timothy!
he has much to teach.
oh gee somebody tickled you in the wrong way, eh, justsayin.. your reply is a perfect example of Ad Hominem attack..
anyway, the point you are missing is.. to make fun of biased idiots like you is the real joy of life
You ain't got a "snow" balls chance in hell.
"You ain't got a "snow" balls chance in hell."
Hey Snow you've just been proven right. Congratulations!
notice the lack of argument from just sayin.....one could easily deduce that just sayin is very simple...(speaking directly to just sayin) i shall call you lenny.
don't squeeze too hard please. god only created soo many field mice!
oh wow.. that is soo.. um creative insult .. are you a sixth grade dropout?
And, you are a clairvoyant as well now? capable of predicting the future because of god?
just lying has a 504 plan. Its teachers are just hoping it finds a sheltered workshop so it can live out its life pretending to be useful.
Wonderful Truth , no stress desperation free prayer. Life changing prayer, proven and powerful every day, known and loved by God. Sweet hour of prayer !
desperation seems to be the best reason to pray....just sayin! lol dum.b sh!t
Fantasies can be quite pleasurable... it's all up to you and your imagination.
There is a prayer for every need, but there is also prayers of love and friendship with God. Not all prayer needs to be an emergency. Do you speak with all your friends and acquaintances in desperation?
Oops, sorry I assumed you had friends. Look at where we are.
"Sweet hour of prayer !"
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.
just sayin,
Roy Orbison "In Dreams":
A candy-colored clown they call the sandman
Tiptoes to my room every night
Just to sprinkle stardust and to whisper
"Go to sleep. Everything is all right."
I close my eyes, Then I drift away
Into the magic night. I softly say
A silent prayerLike dreamers do.
Then I fall asleep to dream My dreams of you.
In dreams I walk with you. In dreams I talk to you.
In dreams you're mine. All of the time we're together
In dreams, In dreams.
But just before the dawn, I awake and find you gone.
I can't help it, I can't help it, if I cry.
I remember that you said goodbye.
It's too bad that all these things, Can only happen in my dreams
Only in dreams In beautiful dreams.
The illiterate doofus vomits yet again! How you doin' crack monkey?
leave the twit alone – its not worth more then one condescending remark, no point to even check for a response – they too are worthless.
if this creature had it in it to argue... a proper one would have been posed a while ago instead of this meaningless string of spew that never changes – ironic really considering the post!
thank you Bo Burnham for this lovely song
All the seats at the sunday m@sses,
Filled with the m@ss's m@ssive @sses,
Cl@sses p@ss as fast as mol@sses.
Ceremonial reading gl@sses.
Read a little bit of leviticus.
All the kids are a little too little for this.
All the parents nod in agreement –
"I think I can va.guely see what he meant."
It's too early in the morning glory
To read another allegory story,
The father, reads a little bit farther,
@ssuring the @ssured that they need not bother
"when god, in verse 45, said the slaves are okay to buy,
He meant that people, all from the start
Each have slaves within their hearts.
Things, that we have sold or boughten, that are forced to pick our moral cotton
God calls us to set these free, free our hearts from slavery...
And then as god goes on to explain the logistics of buying and selling slaves..."
In the back, I sit and I nod to the beats that are bumpin from my ipod
My god, they're starting to pray
And over the music I can hear them say
"dear god, dear lord, dear va.gue muscular man with a beard or a sword.
Dear good all-seeing being, my way or the highway yahweh.
The blue-bal.led anti-mast.urb.ator, the great, all-loving fa.g.got hater,
I'd like to thank your holy might for making me both rich and white
And though this is your day of rest, I come to you with one request
There's so much pain beyond this steeple,
Wars and drugs and homeless people.
Sadness, where there should be joy, hate and ra.p.e and soulja boy.
A world in darkness needs your light, so I'm sure your schedule's pretty tight
But my dog just had leg surgery if you could fix that first...
Debra messing's fingers in a holy place, "hail mary full of grace."
Obama, could you p@ss some hope to the pope
I know a couple dude's who wanna elope
See the pope said, "nope" so the bros can't cope.
(The bros can gro.pe but the bros can't cope)
They've been in love, they've been addi.cted
Who said they shouldn't? benedi.ct did.
Cause in the holy land of the lord he's the holy landlord and di.cks are evicted.
Cause you can be a benedi.ct if you've been a di.ck under benedi.ct but
You can't have benedi.cts because there's only one pope and only one di.ck
What? a di.ck on a pope is
Just like a soap on a rope cause it's
Pointless, unless in prison, throw up your bibles, christ has risen.
Hallelujah, now it's raining men,
Because the gender ratio is 1 to 10.
Winos at the eucharist station, trans-gendered-substantiation
Jesus wasn't the messiah, get back I'm a heretic and I'm on fire
It was oedip.us, and those holy nights
The holy motherfu.cking christ.
I'm a blasphemah post-katrina cruising the marina. on a crusade to cruise aids
And blast FEMA
You're too late, we're fu.cked we don't need ya.
Haven't seen any of your work in a while, hippypoet. It was pretty good. When will you show more of it?
i wish i could take cedit for this, but alas it belongs to Bo Burnham...very smart kid – apparently he is only 19 – i remember being better then i am now at 19-22 ish... but i was fuc.ked up alot of the time so my thought of me being better may just be wishful thinking.
but to my own defense, how many musical artists can you think of that seems to be better when on then compared to when the artist becomes "clean" – there IS something to it!
but as far as your question which i completely missed- all my poems have words that don't translate into cnn speak very well – its like ben and jerry's ice cream in ja.pan...... not sure if your familiar with this but its true – here we call it chunky monkey, well there, because of the translations error – its called either monkey chunks or chunks of monkey...so they just changed the name, makes sense! But everytime i think about it i can't help myself but to think of chilled monkey brains – Indiana Jones, temple of doom!
Good old Bo!
Mr. Prothero is somewhat narrowminded in his understanding. I'm Not impressed at all by these or any other romanists-idolaters-papists.
Thank you very much for the opportunity to say that.
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"It wasn’t so long ago that U.S. Protestants were burning down Catholic convents to protest efforts by the Vatican to infiltrate American society and take it over from within."
...
Was that an actual scholarly quote from a History book or paper? Please provide link or Bibliography.
Otherwise be ready to be called a big fat-liar.
Google Ursuline for a beging
Protestants have killed Catholics, burnt schools and convents and made general mischief at several points
I think you Catholics should return the favor and blow up the PTL Club studios
Seems only fair!
Done. Found nothing Historical as proof. Only an article on Wikipedia which is not a scholarly site. But you're off your hinges.
Salero
Check gilder.lehrman.center@yale.edu for details, unless Yale isn't scholarly enough?
Sheesh, you rednecks are clueless ain't ya!
Tried; link don't work and you continue to be off your hinges. Thou shall not call anyone a redneck just because thou art one.
"College Misericordia opened in 1924. As a Catholic inst.itution, the college witnessed in its early years cross burnings on the campus by the Ku Klux Klan. They persevered in their mission, however, and within a few years, newspaper accounts of the achievements of College Misericordia and its contributions to the community were consistently laudatory. "
You should have searched the internet about discrimination against Catholics, espcially Catholic immigrants, back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. The really big question is how come sounded like this was the first time you heard about this.
As an interesting twist to the article, what about influence through negative publicity? I'm sure there are some Catholics in the public eye out there that have had substantial impact on public opinion and views of the church through bringing negative light (if the article is about people who have influence inside the church, then I understand why you wouldn't consider this category).
"You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting"
Lying is a sin.
You too have been weighed in the balance, and we have found three nails are sufficient
What? No Tom Brady?
Which one is the Anti-Christ?
Colbert
A shared triumvirate of Scalia, Thomas and Boehner
Wouldn't it be funny if Christ was the Anti Christ?
If Christ is the anti-Christ, that's like dividing by zero!! OH SHI -
sam
NICE!
Actually a Bipolar Savior seems perfect for our twisted race!
Ghosts of departed quant.ities. Now it is all making sense. I finally understand the Holy Trinitiy thanks to Sam.
Prayer changes things
It's Ground Hog Day!
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.
To it that takes the Lords name in vain. You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting
"You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting"
Lying is a sin....
@Jesus Faith is an interior quality of a person , and prayer emanates from that condition. "Studies" done with equations, microscopes, telescopes, in laboratories and observatories are somewhat effective when dealing with material phenomena. But since an interior quality is not material, "studies" are of no value. You cannot measure a quality with a caliper.
"But since an interior quality is not material, "studies" are of no value. You cannot measure a quality with a caliper"
Wow was that a stupid statement so the whole field of psychology just went out the window with your poor logic. What an idiot.
Prayer changes things
Proven
"Prayer changes things
Proven"
You have not proof otherwise you would have posted it by now in rebuttal. What a fool you are.
All proofs have been given and accepted for some time now, sorry if you missed out.
No need to rebut repeti tively. That would be redundant.
"All proofs have been given and accepted for some time now, sorry if you missed out."
More desperation and lying nice job you're going to hell!
Prayer changes things
Proven
Powerful
Productive
Prayer really changes things
"Prayer changes things
Proven
Powerful
Productive
Prayer really changes things"
More lying and desperation proving me right! YeeHaw! LMAO!
Prayer is the breath of life. Prayer has changed the course of human history. What joy to speak and learn life changes from God.
"Prayer is the breath of life. Prayer has changed the course of human history. What joy to speak and learn life changes from God."
LOL! More desperation but knowledge is what has changed human history NOT prayer.
just sayin
All proofs have been given and accepted for some time now, sorry if you missed out.
So, proof that just sayin really is Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things. It was bound to come out.
Bwah! Just lying is pretending to be God again! What a hoot!
Heaven is entered by works. Salvation is by Gods unmerited favor through faith, not anything that the saved can do. Damnation is rejection by God due to your rejection of Jesus Christ. Once saved you cannot be unsaved, all the judgement you suggest mean nothing before Gods throne. I cannot be assigned anywhere but the Kingdom of God, no matter what I do or do not do. I am accepted and acceptable before God not by my merit but by faith in the Lord Jesus.
All knowledge comes to man from God because someone asked God in prayer for knowledge.
herbie, get a new hobby
There is no herbie
"Heaven is entered by works." Sez you, dumbazz. The Lutherans say otherwise. Are you equipped to prove them wrong?
You aren't "equipped" to tie your own shoes, you brain-dead jackazz.
herbie is a eunuch who sings soprano in the church choir. Badly.
Oops typo, should read heaven is not entered by works. Go with the Lutherans on that.
There is no herbie.
"All knowledge comes to man from God because someone asked God in prayer for knowledge."
At least half of the scientists are atheists, they don't believe in your god or prayer – proving you are a liar.
God is gracious enough to allow even those who do not acknowledge Him answers . You do not have to be the one who prays to receive knowledge. There is no proof in your statement at all Pat.
"God is gracious enough to allow even those who do not acknowledge Him answers . You do not have to be the one who prays to receive knowledge. There is no proof in your statement at all Pat."
More lies on top of more lies.
herbie get a hand job
There IS a herbie!
Are you delusional? Herbie couldn't get a hand-job from a beagle if the beagle were starving and herbie bribed it with a bowl of chili.
There is no herbie .
just lying in a pile of shitt, it must be sad to be such a load. Or such a toad.
Just sayin.."All knowledge comes to man from God because someone asked God in prayer for knowledge." funny how that knowledge is in concert with our discoveries..I mean did no one ask for the knowledge of how to do heart surgery before the 20 th century? or how to repair a brain.., how to replace a lung, cure disease. You are stuck trying to find ways to insert your square peg god myths in to round hole reality.
herbie IS a hand job.
God has eternity to answer prayers in. Some prayer is answered in a relatively short time as mankind measures time, other prayer has taken years, decades even centuries. Some disease prayers have been answered, others are still in the process.
There is an order and a progression as these things are accomplished.
Gosh, oh gee. I'm just SO thankful that just lying is here to interpret God's word.
What an arrogant jackazz you are, just spewing lies.
Just sayin..total nonsense again...square peg into round hole.. you just amking stuff up again to make it look real,,,,sorry you have no proof as usual just sayin.