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Evangelical leaders urged to mobilize against administration contraception policy
Chuck Colson is urging evangelicals to join with Catholics in a fight against a contracpetion mandate.
March 16th, 2012
06:38 PM ET

Evangelical leaders urged to mobilize against administration contraception policy

By Jessica Yellin, CNN

(CNN)–An influential Christian leader is calling for the evangelical community to match the Catholic church's efforts mobilizing against the Obama administration's policy on contraception coverage.

"I'm asking evangelical churches to get as involved as the Catholic church has," said Chuck Colson, founder of the Prison Fellowship and the Christian radio broadcast Breakpoint. "Catechize members. If it's from the pulpit, that's fine. If by pastoral letter, that's fine. If by announcements at Bible studies, that's fine. The church in America is a sleeping giant. On an issue like this, it will be aroused."

Colson e-mailed more than 500,000 people of faith Thursday afternoon and called the contraception policy "the greatest threat to religious liberty in the history of this country."

The e-mail added, "We evangelicals need to take a page from the Roman Catholics. ... It would be difficult for a Catholic attending mass to avoid reading or hearing about this battle. ... I don't want to impugn anyone's motives, but the New York Times reported last week that the Obama administration is preparing a major campaign. It has programmed one million letters to influential women across America, energizing them over this issue."

The letter urges followers to frame this as a debate about religious freedom, not contraception, because it's a more effective way to sway public opinion.

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Colson concludes, "Brothers and sisters, let me tell you bluntly that if we don't win this battle, we lose not only religious freedom, but every freedom guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. When freedom of conscience is lost, history teaches that the rest follow quickly. So let's all join together. Contact your constituents and supporters. Why shouldn't every evangelical leader do what the Catholics are doing—start circulating to our own mailing lists explaining why this issue is NOT about contraceptives; it is about religious freedom. It's unprecedented. We must not stand idly by while our most precious freedom is imperiled."

In the coming weeks, Colson and other evangelical activists will participate in events designed to educate supporters to write letters to their members of Congress, attend rallies or support lawsuits on the policy.

Speaking to CNN, Colson invoked the Manhattan Declaration, an interfaith statement of unity defending pro-life and traditional marriage positions. "The 525,000 people who signed the Manhattan Declaration said we'll render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar but not what belongs to God."

He added, "We're headed for the biggest constitutional clash between government and church in my lifetime, and it will hurt us both, and we cannot do that."

Colson spoke the same day the Obama administration released updated rules to its contraception policy. The update effectively restates the administration's position that women who work for religious institutions with moral objections to contraception can get birth-control pills and other reproductive health care directly though their insurers.

The policy also begins a process of public comment for religious institutions that fund their own insurance plans.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 2012 Election • Belief • Christianity • Politics

soundoff (367 Responses)
  1. AGuest9

    Gee, was this ALL that got "accomplished" on Capitol Hill this week? I'm glad there aren't any wars or a financial crisis going on!

    March 16, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      *snerk*

      March 16, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • Ah....wait just a second

      Um, no. They had a "hearing". It was a hard week.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah.. oh, the humanity...

      March 16, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
  2. Sara, Wisconsin

    How many times does a citizen need to state clearly that I have my freedom to practice my religion, but not any right to force another citizen to adnere to that religion?
    The current legal situation is not requiring any woman who feels it is not moral to use contraception or consider aborting and terminating a pregnancy. Fine. However, NO religion or "moral" employer has the right to force these "morals" on non-believers.

    This is beginning to sound like a prelude to another round of Salem Witchcraft Trials.

    March 16, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • VanHagar

      Any more than you have a right to dictate how the "moral" employers operate.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Leroy jackson

      van hagar, it is tricky isn't it – what does a moral employer look like? I think an employer has a moral obligation to be concerned about the welfare of one's employee's – maybe not legally required (to a degree) – i wish it were simple that people could just quit an employer that had no concern for the people so that enterprise would go under or wise up – i think though employers are actually more upset about money instead of morals – women and doctors should be deciding such issues – i do not know y i even bother posting since i know these posts will not actually affect anything –

      March 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  3. Edward.Pole

    Look at the faces of the Right Wing evangelical community and ask yourself – will they be around in 10-15 years? The answer is NO – this is their last hurrah!. In the next 10-15 years they will also be losing their base – their supporters their $$$.. Will younger generations come in and support their dark ages, Taliban ways? NO – And I refuse to teach my children that they have to give up their life to support these idiots. This is their last tour of duty and they know it. This is the last chance they have to spread their form of religion. The younger generations are growing up in a global world exploring what this world has to give and what God gave all of us to share. Up yours Catholic Bishops.

    March 16, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
    • AGuest9

      I dunno – Newt's back. 😦

      March 16, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • Headed in the right direction

      Statistically, that has been happening for quite a while now. As percentages of the total population, religions have generally been losing relative to the total populace. The group with absolutely the largest gain?

      And the winner is . . . No religion! Yes, the largest gains for the last 22 years have been all the branches of irreligion, advancing far faster than any rival! And the atheism subbranch of this group is experiencing accelerating growth, almost doubling in size between 2001 and 2008!

      Thank you religious activists, fundamentalists, cultists and evangelicals! You are swelling the ranks of unbelievers with your repulsive insane behavior! Praise be with you!

      Prayer works – the opposite of what you want!

      March 16, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Ah....wait just a second

      Are you kidding ? With the state of the US education system, maybe European kids won't buy this crap, but American kids sure will. It's gonna take a LOT longer than 15 years. Every generation has to relearn the hard lessons, apparently, (especially since they only teach their PC view of history). Intelligent Design indeed. We are the laughing stock of the planet.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
  4. norma jean.

    smart ass!

    March 16, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • NamadepankuRizal

      Kaya kamaal likha hai rsahid shaib is k liye meri taraf se mubarkbaad qubool kijiye aur isi tarah ki jankari dete rahiye Allah aap ko shifaye kamil ata farmaye

      April 1, 2012 at 6:50 am |
  5. norma jean.

    I worked very hard as a woman who has been around this world for a very long time...telling you my opinion of the mess that is taking place and you chose not to print it.. That is your privilege but I will once again say.......Remember WOMEN VOTE TOO!!

    March 16, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Helpful Hints

      norma jean – No need to get paranoid...

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      March 16, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • Cut-Up Literature

      I appreciate your helpfulness, but I just don't find that I use the words "cockatrice" and "cucumber" much on this blog.

      Maybe I should.

      As I circu-mnavigated Scu-ntthorpe, I was as-saulted by a racc-oon who lept from a tho-rny ho-mogenous coc-oon that lay upon the co-ckleshells. Thinking quickly, I poured ar-senic on a j-apanese cuc-umber and threw it to him, thu-mping him on the ni-pple before he ate it. He died slowly, spending months in a spo-oky hos-pice in Ess-ex, attempting extrava-gant thera-peutic tra-peze s-ex with sava-ge desp-icable susp-icious va-grant strip-pers.

      March 17, 2012 at 3:33 am |
    • Helpful Hints

      Cut-Up,

      I am rec-umbent with ti-ttering! 🙂

      Well done!

      March 17, 2012 at 4:01 am |
  6. fedupwu

    Of all the nerve, to tell women they can not use contraception, when you are abusing little boys. Taking contraception isn't sick it is responsible, now what you do is sick. Why don't you take care of your own house before you move into our house. Republicans say they want small government, what they really mean is they want the public only to play a small part in it. They want the public to stay out and they want to run every aspect of our lives.

    March 16, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Remember, Bush was a republican. How much did the deficit grow under him?

      March 16, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
    • Leroy jackson

      the seeds of the deficit was under Bush – everyone's memory is so short – Bush created the Tide and everything under Obama has been to turn it

      March 17, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  7. Mom in MN

    The GOP has been very dishonest in repeatedly stating that taxpayer money is involved when it clearly is NOT. This issue arises when a woman with healthcare through her or her spouse's employer (which is how most of us get healthcare in this country) has an employer who is against contraception and does not want any employees to have access to contraception. Now the employer pays in to the healthcare, but so does the employee. But the GOP says that the employer only should decide if the woman can have access to contraception or not. Why should the employer be able to force its religious beliefs on all employees regardless of the employee's beliefs, especially when the employee is paying into the healthcare coverage as well? It is ridiculous. The GOP is clearly wrong on this issue. Their stance is patently ridiculous. The employer's religious beliefs should have nothing to do with what healthcare an employee receives anyway, but why does the GOP think that the employee who is also paying (usually A LOT too) should have no say, no freedom whatsoever. It just goes to show how much the GOP is against regular middle class workers.

    March 16, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
  8. Bootyfunk

    religious leaders mobilize...

    haha, sounds like the ultimate ignorance festival. that's right, if you have no education and see education as a bad thing - you may be a religious leader.

    but i encourage these imbeciles to keep pushing the contraception issue. this is the kind of archaic thinking that is pushing religion into the shadows. "but my book from the iron age tells me everything i need to know. derp." of course the people who wrote that book thought the earth was flat... but other than that and a thousand other things they got wrong, that book is perfect.

    March 16, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
  9. ITALIAN NONNO

    Pedophile priests and bishops of the Catholic church, telling their sheep how to behave in a moral way is laughable. No wonder people are leaving the church in droves.

    March 16, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • gerald

      Ah yes they are all a bunch of peds. Broadbrushing. Good intelligent debating tecnique. Especially when 98% of priests have never harmed a child t you condemn them all. What does that make you?

      March 16, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      Gerald, aside from the Boy Scouts, another Christian organization, name a group that has so many child molesters? and how about a group that protects child molesters? only NAMBLA and Christianity protect child molesters instead of the child.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • gerald

      The truth is every group from policemen to teachers to coaches has a higher percentage of peds than priests. Fact. There are over 38 milion people who have suffered child abuse in this country. Only about 4000 of those cases are by Catholic Clergy.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      first off, not true. priests have a much higher rate of child m_o_l_e_s_t_a_t_i_o_n than any profession you named.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      also, i noticed you didn't answer the 2nd part of my question. what organization protects its child m_o_l_e_s_t_e_r employees as part of policy?

      March 16, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • gerald

      BF, no priests do not. The general rate n society is about 7%. In the priesthood it is less than 2%. So quite clearly just about every other group you can find would have a rate higher than priests. It just doesn't get as much attention for many reasons. Clearly you flunked math. 38million means that greater than 10% of the population has been abused as children. The statistics say that 7% have done this abuse. SO you are wrong and have nothing to back your hand waving up.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "It just doesn't get as much attention for many reasons." Yeah, you dumbazz, maybe because priests are supposed to be better than the rest of humanity. Or maybe because priests are representatives of 'god'. Or maybe because priests are supposed to be faithful, trustworthy, honest, holy.

      You dimwit, do you ever get tired of being stupid?

      March 16, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • gerald

      Tommy,

      I am sorry you are living a miserable existence. I will pray for you.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'm sorry you are so emotionally needy, honey. I am perfectly happy, thanks ever so. I have a great job, a happy family, a nice home, many friends, and good health.

      Apparently, you are lacking in some quarter; my sympathies.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • Janine from TX

      @gerald: The issue is that the Catholic church (I was raised Catholic but once educated realized what a joke it was and left) tried to hide and deny the involvement of those involved in abusing children. It turns out the priest who officiated my own father's service years ago in our small town, ended up being one of the first pedophiles in our area. I was repulsed! Furthermore, 98% of Catholic women practice birth control of some form, so the church needs to deal with the Dark Age mentality that is no longer viable in modern times.

      March 17, 2012 at 10:49 am |
  10. Algaria

    What's next?
    The good Bishops religious beliefs are against unwed pregnancies. They demand the right to not cover the pregnancy, prenatal care, the child once it's here.

    Ther's a reason for the separation of church and state. Otherwise, if we listen to the hypocritical moral majority, we'll soon be the western version of Iran.

    March 16, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • gerald

      A can't believe the stupid comments on this board. There is nothing violating Church conscience when a child is already concieved to help it to term. NOONE is advocating or trying to bring about what you say. Pregnancy centers are set up all over by Catholics to help the very thing you say we are working for. Ridiculous arguments don't help civil discussion. Nor does prejudice.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Ridiculous arguments don't help."

      Then stop making them, you stupid git.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • gerald

      God bless you tommy.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Prove there is one, dummy.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • gerald

      I can prove to a rock that people exist. How am I going to prove to you that God exists. God bless you.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thanks for proving my point, honey. You're a peach!

      March 16, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
  11. The Public Forgets So Quickly!

    Charles Colson got the longest prison sentence for the Watergate scandal – you know, the thing that got an American president to resign? Colson was Nixon's maain hatchet men. He is one of the worst political operatives America has ever had in power.

    Having Charles Colson represent morality is like have Jack the Ripper as a mid-wife.

    March 16, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Christians are cuckoo for cocoa puffs

      God needs a good hatchet man.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
  12. Portland tony

    All anyone would have to do is post a picture of these old geezers captioned "close your eyes, if you are humiliated" or "trust me, I know what's best for your V*g*n*".

    March 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
  13. Rebecca

    I am very afraid for women in this country. You notice that it is mostly men who are trying to take away the right for women to use contraceptives. This is a real war on women. Repubicans are using religious freedom as a reason to attack women and prevent them from using birth control. Also, they are attacking planned parenthood who provide millions of women with free healthcare. If these so called religious leaders cared about women they would leave women's healtcare along.

    March 16, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • gerald

      Contraceptives aren't healthcare. THey are elective services. Pregnancy and motherhood are not diseases.

      ..a healthy majority of women (53-38) support an exemption for religious groups...

      http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/03/13/us/politics/president-obamas-approval-rating-drops.html?ref=politics

      March 16, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • gerald

      BTW noone is saying women can't have contraceptives. We just don't want to pay for them. Why isn't there an outcry for the government to pay for everyone's food like there is their contraceptives. There is more of a right to food than contraceptives. Quit with this stupid war on women clap trap. If it were any other type of women's healthcare the CC wouldn't be against it. The issue is religous liberty and conscience. Not a ware on women.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • Algaria

      Let's repeat this one more time. There are reasons besides pregnancy that women take contraceptives that are medical. Regardless of whether it's medical or strictly birth control, it's a preventive health measure. It's the same premise as an immunization. On the other hand, it you ant to talk medical, I don't consider natural aging process of not being able to get an erection a medical conditon. Therefore, why should insurance pay for viagra, cialis, etc. Why should it pay for vasectomy?

      March 16, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • gerald

      Algeria,

      The CC is not against their use for other health care reasons, i.e. to control cycles etc.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • Algaria

      Gerald,

      Ok. Let's clarify. Maybe I misheard. Is the discussion that the CC does not want to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees. Has there been a discussion put forth where they're saying they will cover it for other reasons? Or, as I've seen, digging in their heels afraid the governmentis trying to tell them what to do, when it looks like certain members of the govenment are trying to force their religious beliefs on the masses.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Algaria

      And Gerald,

      Don't think I didn't notice the absent response to the viagra not being a meducal necessity and should not be covered by insurance.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oooh, don't take away gerry's little blue pill! Whatever will he do to get his rocks off without it?? And goodness knows, THAT'S a NECESSITY! Gerry can't LIVE if he doesn't get Mr. Trouser Snake up and waving!

      March 16, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      @ Algaria same with that ppl abuse the use. I feel the same toward that as well. I don't think ether one of us is saying that no one can use them. Its the government telling the church what they have to do.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Gerald we dont mind you having churches.. we just dont to pay for them...but we dont have a choice... yet..

      March 16, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • gerald

      Algaria,
      First of all noone is mandating that viagra be covered. Secondly the Catholic Church is not against medical means that aide in the birth of God's children. The Bible says be fruitful and multiply. Yet some medical conditions hinder this. The Church is not against medical means to overcome them. That said I am not in favor of free viagra for everyone either. But at least it is not morally reprehensible to me.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
    • gerald

      Algaria,

      THe discussion cant be had about contraceptives for other reasons because the mandate is not about that. Obama himself makes that clear. The discussion about other reasons only comes up as an aside in the discussion. Archbishop Dolan, head of the USCCB has made it clear that the CC is not opposed to contraceptives for other medical reasons.

      March 16, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • Sockness Monster

      What a woman does with her body is between her and her god.
      Its nobody else's business.
      Case closed.

      March 17, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  14. Yes, you are fooled

    So, why do all of you men out there want to control women so much? Tell you all what, we will trade you the right to better jobs, higher pay and being able to "void" yourself standing up. In return, you can have child birth, raising the kid with no guarantee of help, and oh! YOU can determine what type of contraceptives you want to use. How about that? Up until the time that you are willing to do that, leave us and our bodies alone.

    March 16, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • gerald

      Controlling women by having them pay for their contraceptives? Gee why do you want to control all people by having them pay for their own food and clothes? See how stupid your argument is? No you don't.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Feed Your Head

      The moron below doesnt get it.
      Contraceptives/BC ect should be covered by a persons health insurance, it has nothing to do with
      the public/tax payers paying for it.
      If you dont understand the discussion..................STFU !!

      -----------------------------------------------–

      gerald

      Controlling women by having them pay for their contraceptives? Gee why do you want to control all people by having them pay for their own food and clothes? See how stupid your argument is? No you don't.

      March 17, 2012 at 11:32 am |
  15. 1nd3p3nd3nt

    the cultural war is being waged by the religious not the secular world.

    keep putting your faith out there as public policy and eventually you'll have to start defending your faith.
    they are bringing this on themselves and they don't even realize it.

    where does it say in the Bible that we shouldn't use condomns? where does it talk about germs and bacteria?
    what does it say about space travel, the internet, automobiles, trains, airplanes, computers, tv's, bulldozers, youtube, etc?

    the real joke is god gave us a choice to believe in him, and yet his followers refuse to give others the very same choice.

    March 16, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • gerald

      Private enterprises, i.e. businesses and Church are not public and should not be mandated by public policy that goes against conscience. Evidently you want to throw religous freedom out. What other freedoms are you willing to give up because they are all up for grabs now.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • Feed Your Head

      *** gerald

      Private enterprises, i.e. businesses and Church are not public and should not be mandated by public policy that goes against conscience. Evidently you want to throw religous freedom out. What other freedoms are you willing to give up because they are all up for grabs now.
      --------------------------------------------------------------

      What you are realy saying Gerald is this.
      If i own a company and you work for me, and you need medicine that goes against my religion,
      You either give up that medication, or give up your job.
      So who is losing freedom now ?
      It goes both ways.
      ------------------------------------------------
      If you are a Christian and dont want birth control, dont take it.
      But dont tell me i cant.......got it ?

      March 17, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  16. Ike

    Whatever happenned to separation of church and state?
    I am a catholic and I do not see anything wrong with contraceptives. Contraception is not abortion. meanwhile there are other uses for contraceptives including endometriosis and menopause symptoms. Employers and Church have no right to with-hold it from any woman.
    Afterall, Jehova witness people do not accept blood transfusion, but that is an individual choice. Does it mean Health Insurances should stop covering for blood transfusion?

    March 16, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Don't forget Ectopic Pregnancies. Those should be avoided at all costs.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • gerald

      RU486 is abortion and it is mandated with this policy. Better read Theology of the Body and figure out why contraception is wrong. Don't go to communion until you do. Its a sacralidge.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • gerald

      HawianGuest. Huh??? What a silly comment.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @gerald

      I am an atheist and a realist, your preaching doesn't do anything for me. Contraception is wrong for you, so you should not take it. But trying to legislate your morality is idiotic and essentially impractical.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Do you know what an ectopic pregnancy is gerald?

      March 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • gerald

      Of course I know what they are.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Then why would saying that ectopic pregnancies should be avoided be a silly comment?

      March 16, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sure you do, gerry. You THINK you do, anyway. Let us all know when you endure one.

      Thanks in advance, you moronic fuckwit.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • gerald

      I'm guessing you think we Catholics should pay for peoples abrtions through health insurance to. With regard to EP's fewer of the are a consequence of contraception but it is silly to suggest that contraception is a good prevenative medicine. I.e. No doctor would prescribe contraceptives to avoid EPs.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • gerald

      Ah yes there you are tum tum. Bigot extraordinare. All Christians are stupid to you.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Not all. You surely qualify, gerald "ferimones."

      March 16, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • gerald

      May God fill your life with joy tommy.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, I don't need any phony fairy to do that, honey. I have you! You make me laugh every time you post! Thanks ever so.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Feed Your Head

      *** gerald

      I'm guessing you think we Catholics should pay for peoples abrtions through health insurance to
      ----------------------------------------------

      This is why you cant talk with these fuqheads.
      If i want an abortion i dont expect you to pay for it azzwhipe, are you that stupid.....
      sorry, you are.

      March 17, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
  17. a person of the Name

    Wow, after reading though most of these post, ya'll really have no idea what's going on. This isn't about contraceptives. This isn't about women's rights. This is an open door for the government to start to limits on ppl of faith. What will be next? Can't talk about God in public? I can read my bible at work?
    I mean really. This needs to stop now.
    Truth be told my wife uses contraceptives but ppl abuse the right to use them. There are right reasons and wrong reasons.

    March 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      And are you someone that should decide the right and wrong reasons? Saying this is about marginalizing religion is just plain wrong. Are they going to force all women to take the contraceptives? No. They say "Here, it's available if you want it." and that's it.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • Yes, you are fooled

      As another person of faith, I will ask you one question. PLEASE explain how a mandate of healthcare coverage by an EMPLOYER, which believe me there are many others already out there (ie, healthy women check ups, breast care exams, prostate check ups, mammogram coverage, annual check ups) is now an "attack on religion"? Covering contraceptives as a prescription, which, under the majority of group plans has been covered with a co-pay for over 3 decades, has absolutely NOTHING to do with your right to read your bible at work. There are no "right" or "wrong" reason to use a contraceptive script. It is a personal choice.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      Well I know many women who use it just for s ex. That would be a wrong reason. Now, there is many good reasons for it as well but like I said ppl abuse it.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      And yes I know that no one is saying I can't read my bible but I hear so much against ppl of faith. This could turn into something bad.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • gerald

      Also this is not just about contraception. It's about abortion. If obama gets this through his next step is abortion (though RU486 is abortion and it is a part of this). Planned Parenthood advises Obama. They make money on abortion not contraception. LOTS OF IT. You can bet abortion is the next step in this.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • poopmeister

      a person of a name; don't you even consider that maybe religion is taking away the freedom of others? Your God is not my God (which is not even really a God), so why am I subjected constantly to references to God everywhere that I turn. I don't get a break from it, so why can't religion leave the common citizen alone!

      March 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @a person of the Name

      You didn't answer my question. Why should you have the right to try and decide what are the right and wrong reasons.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • gerald

      So along with freedom of religion poopmiester is ready to give up free speach so that his poor little ears don' hear the word God. D

      March 16, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • a person of the Name

      @ HG how do you come in contact with a s exual disease? What would be the best way to prevent it?

      March 16, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • poopmeister

      No Gerald, I am not ready to give up freedom of speech, I'm just drawing a comparison of how stupid people boil things down. I don't step foot in churches willingly, but I don't try to stop people from going in them. I'll hear or say the word god, god, god but it doesn't mean that much coming from me. The people that crap on his name by fabricating his true intentions is what I find ridiculous. I just want people to show a little more meaning behind their religious intentions besides making up bs about the government infringing on their freedoms....grow up, women use birth control....not a religious issue at all!

      March 16, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • gerald

      I doubt HG has figured out that the pill is the biggest reason for STD's being RAMPANT. I bet he/she thinks the pill stops stds.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You lose. Nobody's as stupid as you are, ummm, think they are, gerry.

      March 16, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • Simon Says

      Paranoid fuqhead.
      Wait till we start throwing you to the lions.
      If any one of you think you are losing your religious freedom,
      you have been drinking the Republican kool aid.
      Seems to work pretty well, i will admit.

      Just like the Nazi's did to the jews,
      we will make you tatoo a cross on your head, and when we see you on the
      street, we will beat you up, and send you to a slave labor camp.

      You people are out of your mind.

      March 17, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
  18. poopmeister

    Didn't God grant the human race with the power of choice? Some choose to follow him, some do not. Why then does the church have the right to take a choice away from women? As an employer, you can have the right to have an opinion on if a "good catholic" should use birth control or not but you sure as hell don't have the right to prevent your employee from obtaining a reasonable preventative medication! I believe that the evangelicals and catholics pushing the issue are the ones actually stomping on religious freedom, they are mocking a system that will trump theirs any day....the us government.

    March 16, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 16, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • Athena from Alabama

      Am I the first to congratulate you...on being a moron?

      March 16, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • Ah....wait just a second

      Prayer changes dirty diapers.

      March 16, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      It's FERIMONES! Soiyent green is FERIMONES!

      March 16, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • Simon Says

      Trolls are not healthy for children and other living things.

      March 17, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
  20. majikbunny

    The Taliban...I rest my case

    March 16, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
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