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My Take: Where’s white church outrage over Trayvon Martin?
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People president Ben Jealous at a town hall meeting at Allen Chapel AME Church in Sanford, Florida about on Trayvon Martin’s killing.
March 22nd, 2012
12:44 PM ET

My Take: Where’s white church outrage over Trayvon Martin?

Editor’s Note: Mark I. Pinsky is a former religion reporter for the Orlando Sentinel and author of “Amazing Gifts: Stories of Faith, Disability, and Inclusion.”

By Mark I. Pinsky, Special to CNN

Orlando, Florida (CNN) - In the classic Sherlock Holmes story “The Silver Blaze,” the key clue turns out to be a watchdog that didn’t bark when it should have.

In the aftermath of the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida, not far from here, the mystifying missing element so far has been white outrage, especially on the part of central Florida’s religious leaders.

Few if any white clergy have spoken up to demand that the killing be fully investigated. None can be seen standing by the African-American preachers calling for justice, or marching with Martin’s family members. Why?

As someone who covered this area’s faith community for 15 years, I don’t think the answer is racism as much as it is cultural callousness. Week in and week out, the violent deaths and disappearances of poor, black and brown people – especially immigrants – merit a one- or two-paragraph story in The Orlando Sentinel’s (my old newspaper’s) police blotter. So when a middle-class black teen is gunned down, the reaction tends to be a shrug of the shoulders.

In this part of the country gated communities are considered sacred ground, as much or more than houses of worship. The fear of these preserves being violated is enough to shift the presumption of innocence to the presumption of guilt, including among churchgoers. Couple this with a made-for-vigilantes “Stand Your Ground” gun law and, until recently, there is no reason to question the indifference of local law enforcement in investigating Trayvon Martin’s death.

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While central Florida’s modern image is Sun Belt suburban, a theme park mecca, the region has a dark and violent past when it comes to race:

- In 1920, an attempt by two black men to vote in the town of Ocoee led to a race riot that spread to Apopka, Orlando and Winter Springs. When the smoke cleared, Ocoee had been ethnically cleansed with more than 500 African residents driven off. The town remained essentially white for the next 40 years.

- In 1923, a white mob’s attack on the black community of Rosewood burned the hamlet to the ground and scattered its residents forever

- On Christmas Day, 1951, Florida NAACP Executive Director Harry T. Moore, an anti-lynching activist, and his wife were blown up in their wood frame home by Klansmen, including local law enforcement officers. Harry Moore died en route to a Sanford hospital, where his wife died nine days later.

No one was brought to justice for any of these crimes, and white churches had little to say on behalf of the victims.

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Race was the great moral issue in 20th-century America. And one of the burdens of Southern history is the silence – with a few conspicuous and heroic exceptions – of white religious leaders during the Civil Rights movement, especially white churches. There were times and places where silence bled into complicity. When Northern clergy came to the South to join protests, as often as not their local denominational counterparts were resentful.

To its credit, in 1995 the Southern Baptist Convention acknowledged and repented for nearly 150 years of support for slavery, segregation and racial discrimination, saying that “racial prejudice and discrimination are not compatible with the Gospel” and “a deplorable sin.” Since then, Southern Baptists – the nation’s largest Protestant denomination - have made enormous strides in obliterating the color line in its churches and its relations with other denominations.

But in the case of Trayvon Martin, the white religious community – including those affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention, this area’s dominant affiliation - has so far been silent and invisible.

Some black Christians are beginning to question this silence. At a predominately African-American Seventh-day Adventist congregation last Saturday, during a previously scheduled discussion of “racial progress,” a man stood up and asked why his denomination had not yet spoken or acted on the Trayvon Martin controversy.

The Rev. James Coffin, a white Adventist minister and executive director of the Interfaith Council of Central Florida, who was one of the speakers, admitted that the man was right. Coffin later wrote the man an impassioned e-mail saying his point was valid, and acknowledging his guilt for his inaction. So far, “it's the victim's affinity group that has to go to battle for him,” Coffin said.

“African-Americans shouldn't be waging this battle on their own,” Coffin told me. “While it certainly has racial overtones and undertones, it's a problem that's bigger than just racism. So for our own well-being and self-serving purposes, if for no other reason, non-African-Americans need to get involved.”

At long last, some other white church leaders are speaking out.

In a letter issued Wednesday entitled “A Statement of Support for the Martin Family and Call for Just Prosecution,” the Florida Council of Churches, which represents mainline Protestant congregations, said that the state “should be a place where a person of any color can walk in a neighborhood without fear of violence or being presumed a suspicious threat. Florida should be a place where the use of deadly force is rare and uncommon.

“The Martin family and the community at large need protection from vigilantism and assurance that Florida's streets are open to all people without respect to the color of their skin,” the statement continued. The council does not speak for the state’s evangelical churches.

Tardy or tepid, it is never too late for religious leaders to demand justice. Which is what they still need to do. A rally calling for justice for Trayvon Martin is scheduled for Sanford's Shiloh Baptist Church, Thursday night would be a good place to start.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Mark I. Pinsky.

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soundoff (832 Responses)
  1. Kristen

    I'm white and I'm outraged. This is a blatent example of racism. He saw a black kid in his gated community and decided to play cop. It's BS. As a parent my heart goes out to his family. I am outraged Zimmerman hasn't been charged. Why should this family have to lose their child because he was wearing a freaking hoodie?!!??

    March 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • 31337

      hi Kristen,
      You know the guy was Hispanic right? do you also know that he was being attacked when he shot the kid and the police did investigate, looked at the evidence and found it was self defense.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • J.W

      The kid did not attack this guy. The guy chased him down and shot him. They even have evidence of that on the 911 call. The guy said that he was chasing him and that the kid was running away.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • William Demuth

      31337

      Red neck bigoted cops did. (and I am as white as you get)

      When the feds are done the whole force will be gone.

      They didn't even tell his family they had his corpse for crying out loud.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
  2. Leigh

    I didn't even read the article, because the headline says it all. I am white and like 99% of the whites I've talked with, I am outraged that this young man was murdered. That being said, you must be ignoring the response by white america, because they are making it loud and clear that this death was wrong. However, i live in the Philadelphia area, where black youth has been having an absolute field day with attacking white folks who are walking down the streets. In one attack, a man was pulled from a cab and racial slurs were used. We had a white man killed during peak hours in the subway – his attackers a group of black teens. Where is the Rev al to talk about these incidents? Why are we expected to show outrage when none is shown in return? The way I see it – when a black youth like Martin is murdered, whites are outraged, blacks are outraged and the media fans the flames. When whites are attacked, like the fair incident in Wisconsin this summer, whites are outraged, blacks ignore it and the media denies it was race motivated or drums up some of the usual lame excuses for the behavior.

    March 22, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • AverageJoe76

      Leigh, I'm from Philly myself. And I know the cases you're speaking about. Yes, there may be little being said when whites are attacked by blacks. But in the city of Philadelphia, youths are just crazy in general. Teenagers are attacking everyone, white, black, hispanic, asian, etc.... The media corporations are just that; corporations. So it's whatever sells. Fox knows what to sell to it's demographic as well as MSNBC and so forth.

      March 22, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • SSmith

      Were the perpetrators in those crimes arrested and prosecuted? All of theses cases are sad and should not have happened, the ones you mentioned, as well as Trayvon. The outrage for me comes from the fact that Zimmermann was not arrested and Trayvon was treated like a criminal, by Zimmermann and the police, once they arrived on scene. Neither of them had any reason to believe he had committed a crime. Trayvon was drug tested, not Zimmermann (the shooter). It was just automatically assumed that because Trayvon was black and in that neighborhood, he had to be up to no good. Trayvon could not speak for himself and the police took Zimmermann’s, because he had no reason to lie, right.

      March 22, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
  3. kiki

    This case really highlights American ignorance concerning the difference between Nationality, Race and Ethnicity.

    March 22, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • dhondi

      Yes, our need to leverage people against each other based on these concepts is silly.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • kiki

      Unfortunately it is woven into the fabric of this country.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • dhondi

      It is woven into the history of this country...we don't have to live in the past, the power to change it lies with us, here and now....and we aren't doing anythign to change it.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • William Demuth

      dhondi

      They way to change it is to detain him and have a trial.

      If someone shoots someone in a civil society an investigation happens while the suspect sits in a cell.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
  4. Seth Hill of Topanga, California

    Churches are actually social clubs, not religious organizations. As for me, this white atheist is totally outraged over the slaying of a young black man by a white/hispanic self-appointed "neighborhood watch captain."

    March 22, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Bizarre

      Yep, Zimmerman seems to be the epitome of a "loose cannon". I wouldn't be surprised if the internet forums which he visited, and his posts, will be investigated.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • RGCheek

      If you are outraged, then how badly did the 6'3" nearly 200 pound high school football player, Trayvon Martin, how badly did he have to beat Zimmerman in the head causing bleeding wounds before you think the shooting justifiable?

      And dont say that is not the case, because I have read dozens of stories on this and the MSM is largely ignoring Zimmermans side of the story and they are slandering the cops down there.

      You think this is about race because you WANT it to be about race.

      Grow up.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • J.W

      Well Zimmerman maybe shouldn't have chased him down and pointed a gun at him. If some random dude just followed me and chased me down when I was out walking I would probably be a little freaked out too.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Wrathskeller

      I'm with you, Seth.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  5. TiredODaCrap

    Sorry, but bringing in Jesse and Al, having a million "hoodie" march (with a few thousand folks), and hearing how horrible whites are in every article does not lend to getting any sympathy (much less outrage) from the white populace.
    Was this a tragedy? Yes. Should the young man be dead? Heck, no! Should Zimm be in prison – or at least answering for the life he took? Of course. Will Justice prevail once the "proper" authorities are involved? Yes. Do those authorities include Al, Jesse, or any of the hoodied masses? Heck No!
    Taking a step back to survey the process and actions of all involved does not mean that you are on the side of the murderer. However, WHERE WERE ALL THE BLACK PREACHERS WHEN OJ CUT OFF HIS WIFE'S HEAD???? It obviously hits closer to home – thus causing a more dramatic reaction – to those in the young man's demogrphic. However, let's not pretend that the rest of the country is not wanting to see justice just because "another black guy is dead".
    Whether the law protects him or not, an injustice was done with ZImmerman killing that child. However, there are proper ways to handle situations like these that don't change overnight no matter who is upset about it!

    March 22, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • William Demuth

      In that we can agree.

      Black politicos making a career on dead kids is old news.

      Al and the others just want to drain the corpse of evey nickel they can.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • areyoujoking

      1.)O.J. Simpson was arrested charged put on trial and acquitted, Are you Joking? No comparison. Zimmerman was not arrested and is walking arount with the gun he killed this 17 year old boy with, now one may think that justice will always prevail, basted on the history of America thats just not the case.
      2.)Are you joking? Had it not been for people like Rev. Al Sharpton, you and I would not know about this case, it would have been sweep under the rug like normal. 3.) Things dont change overnight, Are you joking? Whites have been killing blacks for almost 500-years with no retribution, how long should blacks wait, would another 100-years be good with you?
      4.)The President is biracial, one black parent and one white parent but no one has a problem calling him BLACK, why? his skin. Zimmerman is also biracial, one White parent and one hispanic but because of the color of his skin in american he is White, Sorry but i did not make the rules and you can't change the rules now. Are You Joking

      March 22, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
  6. Ally Barton

    Where's the black outrage over Caleb A. Witty?

    March 22, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • dhondi

      Nicole simpson and ron goldman??

      March 22, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • JLS639

      As far as I know, the police have no idea who shot Witty beyond a general description fitting thousands of people in the area. If the police were using a weak excuse to not arrest the suspects, then the situation would be analogous.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
  7. Joey Beans

    The shooter was hispanic and because his name is an anglo sounding one everyone is screaming racism on behalf of the whites. The guy was hispanic and an idiot. Nothing to do with whites. Keep your own racism in check, please.

    March 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • kiki

      The word "Latino" is often used as a synonym for "Hispanic". The definitions of both terms are non-race specific, and include people who consider themselves to be of distinct races (Black, White, Amerindian, Asian, and mixed groups).However, there is a common misconception in the US that Hispanic/Latino is a race

      March 22, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • dhondi

      so Kiki, as many puerto ricans and south americans that I know consider themselves latino.....are they now whilte

      March 22, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • kiki

      Latino is their ethnicity NOT their race. They are two different catagories.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • pazke

      Thank you, Kiki. Hispanic is NOT a race! The Sanford police called him white in their report.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • RGCheek

      Joey, hispanics are not white when the liberals in the media need to make them out as victims, but they are white if they are on the wrong side of the lefts campaign to remove our rights to self defense.

      In other words, hispanics are white if it fits the liberals story line, but not white if it doesnt.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • kiki

      RG The census is broken up by race an ethncity as well. They are not the same.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • David

      KIKI... FYI... Africa is a continent not a country, if you want to be true to your race discover your origins. otherwise leave the Latino's alone.
      .

      March 22, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • kiki

      Where did I make any claim about Africa?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Edwin Hawkins

      In response to the article and Joey, Mel and citzenUSA; this is precisely why the article was written. Your responses to an unarmed teen being gunned down in the usa reflect the coldness of our society at large. Everyone here carries their own biases as clearly indicated in the responses noted. Wheres the compassion for a life cut short? I'm 50 how old are you? Just fyi for you Joey, Latino or Hispanic males have some of the deepest contempt for African Americans that i know. In case you think i don't know what i'm talking about i grew up in the South Bronx, married to a latina and an x juvenile corrections officer. So, Mel makes a good point about the investigation but is a bit defensive about the history of his former state of residence. Florida like many other states has a poor history of racial equity and legal treatment of blacks. Hey Rick we here you! Anyway, in my humble opinion dialogue is what needs to take place here and throughout each of the venues indicated in the report/responses. When was the last time any of you spoke with a young African American teen or adult for that matter. These kind of issues do not get resolved after the fact and is clearly the reason they seem so sensationalized, because they are. Look to the left or right of you and ask "which of your relatives you would be OK with being murdered", then re-read your comments. Have a blessed day and please let me know what you think. Edwin.Hawkins316@gmail.com

      March 22, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • areyoujoking

      Are You Joking, The President is biracial, one black parent and one white parent but no one has a problem calling him BLACK, why? his skin. Zimmerman is also biracial, one White parent and one hispanic but because of the color of his skin in american he is White, Sorry but i did not make the rules and you can't change the rules now. Are You Joking

      March 22, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
    • GodPot

      I have to agree with areyoujoking, you would have a hard time getting a majority of people to identify Zimmerman as Hispanic just by showing them his photo. And why don't more people refer to Obama as white or Tiger woods as Asian? It would be as accurate as calling Zimmerman Hispanic.

      March 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  8. Drew

    The guy is Hispanic. What does being white have to do with anything? But since we have to turn every argument into a racial thing, where is the black outrage when black mobs rob convenient stores, and cause riots over shoes? Where is the Hispanic rage when actions of illegals constantly drag their heritage through the mud? Where is the muslim outrage every time one of their own blows himself up killing men women and children? Why does everything regarding race fall on the shoulders of white people?

    March 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Ally Barton

      Well said. Whites have become targets, figuratively and literally....getting more than tiresome...

      March 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • William Demuth

      A single man killed a single child, who was unarmed.

      That man was a self apointed vigilante who carried a gun and asked people why they were walking on a public street.

      That same man had placed dozens of complaint calls to the police on prior occasions, primarily complaining that young black men were around.

      That man was 100 pounds heavier than the kid.

      The kid is dead, and his corpse was booze and drug tested, buth the shooter wasn't

      The shooter isloose and still armed.

      Does that seem reasonable to you?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • kiki

      The word "Latino" is often used as a synonym for "Hispanic". The definitions of both terms are non-race specific, and include people who consider themselves to be of distinct races (Black, White, Amerindian, Asian, and mixed groups).However, there is a common misconception in the US that Hispanic/Latino is a race.

      They call him white since he's white.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • RGCheek

      @William Demuth: Trayvon was no child at 6'3" and nearly 200 pounds. He was out of school that day because he was on a ten day suspension.

      You sound like the typical white-hating liberal; why dont you just put up a link to any liberal blogger site and not bother wasting all the time typing out the talking points over and over?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • dhondi

      He's not white.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • William Demuth

      RGCheek

      Dipstick, I am no liberal. I was in the sword and the arm before you were born. I am whiter and righter than you can concieve of. Most would say I was skin head or a biker

      This greaseball killed a KID. Hunted him down and killed him. Plain and simple

      March 22, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • BG

      Well, Demuth, if you walk like a duck and quack like a duck, you're gonna get called a duck at the minimum.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • kiki

      @dhondi If he os not white which race is he?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • areyoujoking

      The President is biracial, one black parent and one white parent but no one has a problem calling him BLACK, why? his skin. Zimmerman is also biracial, one White parent and one hispanic but because of the color of his skin in american he is White, Sorry but i did not make the rules and you can't change the rules now.

      March 22, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  9. BigDeek

    Idiot guns down an innocent kid and the cops and media try to blame it on a self-defense law. Easy to see what is going on here

    March 22, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • GodPot

      Most reasonable persons I have heard discuss this are not blaming the shooting on the gun law, they are blaming the handling of the shooter after the fact on the gun law so the blame lies with this police department. No drug test or any other tests done on the shooter, just a quick interview then off he goes after saying "I felt threatened, it was self defense." "Oh, okay, thanks for keeping our streets clear of skittle wielding punks, have a nice day."

      March 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • Harold Blue

      Yes, but this is not a white/black issue. It's a "I'm going to pull the race card as often as possible" issue. Google Greyston Garcia. Why weren't there any racial protests? Get over yourself, stop blaming others for your inadequacies. The white man did not shoot the poor little black kid. The white man is not the only race protected by the stand your ground laws.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • wilson

      yah - they are trying to protect a hispanic guy

      March 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  10. douhavabrain

    Maybe its because they are waiting for all the facts and for the investigation results before accusing someone of racism and cold blooded murder.

    March 22, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Detain the suspect. He may be innocent, but detainment is warranted.

      Guaranteed if he was black he would be in leg irons in a jail cell.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • dhondi

      On what grounds would they detain him...and he is a minority....

      March 22, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Grounds?

      I could give you a thousand.

      How about failing to follow the instructions of an officer when he wouldn't stop following the kid?

      In NY thats good for 30 days. By then the grand jury will charge him.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • dhondi

      William, that was a police dispatcher....he doesn't have to follow their directions.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • dhondi

      And it is not NY....try again willy.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • William Demuth

      dhondi

      You shall soon see you are wrong. It was an OFFICER,

      Frankly I suspoect that may be ALL they get, but they will get him for that GUARANTEED>

      March 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • dhondi

      It was not an officer, it was a police dispatcher....civilian....no authority over him.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • dhondi

      where are the other 999 reasons?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • Saul Alinsky

      He hasn't finished reading my "Rules for Radicals" yet. Bill will get back to you as he finishes each chapter.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
  11. Julawta

    I'm getting pretty damn sick of CNN trying to "guilt" people for being white.

    March 22, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • dhondi

      It is really all CNN has left....I mean, seriously....it's CNN.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • HAW

      I'm so sorry that your feelings are hurt. I don't want you to feel guilty about being white, but rather being incredibly stupid.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • dhondi

      Where does it say anything about hurt feelings.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • pazke

      I feel sorry for you for being so ignorant.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • Mike D

      The reason that many white churches haven't spoken up and why BG, thought and some of the other obviously white responders have not spoken out against the killing or say things justifying it is that they simply don't care. It is after all a young black male. Historically American whites have not developed their humane conscience when it comes to people of color. I for one as a young black male could not fathom following a young white male with a gun because they are in the wrong place, following this person then gunning him down after I pick an argument with him. This is because I am human and value the life of the young white male as much as I value my own. Many white males have not developed to this point

      March 22, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • dhondi

      I feel sorry for the jets 2011 season.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • dhondi

      Nah, just kidding....the jets suck.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Saul Alinsky (not BG)

      @ Mike D

      It's ok, Mike. We'll give the black hood gangs a big passaroo on all their racial gang-banging. But wait, there's more ! As a "young black male" you are -enti tled- to spew racial hatred, propaganda, and lies about people as you see fit. It's you bonus for being black.

      Regards,
      Saul

      March 22, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
  12. knowledge is key

    This is all so sad. At the end of the day a young man was murdered.. A family has lost their child! and Zimmerman, the murderer, and vigilanty goes free!
    We should all be outraged, no matter the color of skin.

    March 22, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • Pat Aste

      We should all be outraged over an innocent child being killed. I am a caucasian mother of a teenager. Boys sometimes have a lack of judgment. They shouldn't be murdered over it

      March 22, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  13. thought

    You could ask the same to all the African-American preachers when a white child is killed. You never see good ole' Jessie J or Big Al stand up and demand justice.... Only when an African-American is affected do they jump in the middle.... It's the same thing.... Neither is right, but the white Preachers are no different than the black ones....

    March 22, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • William Demuth

      White southern preachers were DIRECTLY complisit in the buying and selling of blacks. White southern preachers were proponents of unimaginable bigotry (just read the article) for a century

      I have yet to hear of any black preachers selling white kids!

      All preachers suck but lets not pretend!

      March 22, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • dhondi

      maybe white people don't feel a national outrage is necessary every time a crime with racially dissimilar people happens....

      March 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • thought

      All Preachers do not "suck" as you put it. God is amazing and unfortunately we people get in the way. We have our own motives and most people put themselves first ahead of all else. In this case your reference to the past has no place. I am not referring only to the south but the country as a whole. It's so easy for the media to jump on the story and paint all white people as not caring but you tell me the last time you saw Jessie J. step out and speak against a black assault on a white person.... IT HASN'T HAPPENED...

      March 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • HAW

      Wow, let me complement you on such an intelligent comment. I am black and I am outraged when a child of any color is murdered. I am sorry you are too stupid to understand simple humanity. But, your bigotry and ignorance has made you a blind fool.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • thought

      Haw- my point was this article is attacking the White Church Leaders thus why I mentioned JJ and Al. I said nothing about white or black everyday citizens... Easy

      March 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Steve

      If the white community were losing there children to crime as the Black community is maybe they would want to speak about all injustice. As long as the problem is over there don't worry about it. Soon the white community will be a minority and then we will see what happens.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • William Demuth

      thought

      Granted, but how does that justify the shooter being loose?

      You can't see the forest for the trees.

      The black power base PROFITS when injustice happens. They don't want to stop it, just profit.

      Regular real people matter. I do, you do. this young man does.

      If it was your child, would you believe justice was served?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • thought

      William- I am outraged and think this shooter should be in jail. He will face a much stronger judge someday but for now he should be in jail. I never said he shouldn't, my point was simply that calling out the white church makes no sense at all and to prove my point I mentioned Jessie J and Al as being completely unconcerned when a white child is assaulted or killed....I didn't see Jessie J talk about the Anthony girl a single time...

      March 22, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
  14. DocSanDiego

    I'm white and am outraged! Unarmed Trayvon was pursued by a criminal carrying a gun. This is murder, plain and simple, and should be treated as such by the police. This murderer called 911 to announce his intent. In spite of the fact that the 911 operator told him NOT to follow Trayvon he did it anyway. This shows premeditation with intent to kill. I'd go for first degree murder – get this man off the streets and put him away for good. No more children like Trayvon should be lost to criminals like this. Justice for Trayvon.

    March 22, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • @youignantdotcom

      I agree...this is an outrage and this guy should be locked up until trial. However, your statement of ". No more children like Trayvon should be lost to criminals like this." is laughable. hundreds of blacks kids are gunned down, either by accident or on purpose, every year by other black gang bangers wielding ILLEGAL firearms...where is the outrage there?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Dawn

      I am white and I too am outraged! It's not only murder, but pre-meditated murder. He had a gun in his pocket and went looking for trouble! The ignorant southern excuse for law enforcement is pathetic! Arrest him on the spot and let the legal system sort it out. I am not one to scream the race card, but GUARANTEED if the guy with the gun was black, he would have been arrested immediately and questions asked later. I am so sad for this childs' family. Lock up the idiot and throw away the key!

      March 22, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • Crips n' Bloods

      @ Dawn

      "f the guy with the gun was black, he would have been arrested immediately..."

      😆

      Good to know. I'll feel so much better now walking alone at night.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
  15. BG

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/06/racial_violence_has_not_made_it_into_the_conversation_about_race.html

    Where, o where is all the black outrage (from churches or anywhere else..) over all the -massive- black assaults? Must be the same place that the muslims are showing their 'outrage' for Islamic acts of terrorism.

    More selective criticism from the Certainly Not News network. Hey, if it doesn't suit your agenda, why bother reporting it, right?

    March 22, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Here is our bigot freind once again.

      A child is killed in cold blood and he has nothing but Fox propoganda to puke.

      March 22, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • BG

      Whoever calls 'bigot' first, loses. It's sorta like using profanity in an argument.

      No help for you there, Bill.

      March 22, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • William Demuth

      This coming from an Ann Coulter wanna be who post links to crap that so far right Barry Goldwater would puke?

      Bad news for ya, your child killing hero shall be going to prison if you like it or not.

      And don't forget, we northern liberals stomped you rednecks once, and we are itching to do it again.

      March 22, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • PunksNotDead

      @ Will – how do you know the kid was killed in cold blood? Were you there? Did you see it happen? I dont think its appropriate for church leaders to speak out or against someone who hasnt even been charged with a crime yet. If the police have enough evidence to indict then I think the conversation can begin. on the same subject why is there only outrage when its a minority? There is a serious double standard....

      March 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • Jeff

      I think the answer is – you dont typically see white teens murderedthe way Trayvon Martin was and have NO ONE ARRESTED. Thats the difference.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • Jeff

      I think the answer is – you dont typically see white teens murdered the way Trayvon Martin was and have NO ONE ARRESTED. Thats the difference.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • PunksNotDead

      @ Jeff – no on has been arrested yet because they dont have enough evidence to do so. This is still America and you cant just arrest someone. Once that happens they have to charge them and if they dont have enough to indict the whole thing falls apart. Its called due process. Im not saying the shooter is innocent but Im not saying he's guilty either.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • HAW

      I'm not going to call you a bigot, but your fiery intellect really scares me. Why don't you try making an original argument as opposed to repeating the typical prattle from the far right?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • @youignantdotcom

      "A child is killed in cold blood and he has nothing but Fox propoganda to puke."

      Sorry but hundreds of black children are killed by other blacks every year. There should be more outrage over the act of murder and less of an outrage over what race killed what race.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • BG

      @ @youignantdotcom

      1, the CNN story was framed as a racial issue and 2, as the only one here (so far) who has expressed an opinion from a humanist perspective, you are obviously not in control of your own reality. If you're not black, I suggest driving through a local ghetto sometime. Start in Philly – Now there's a good reality check.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  16. travelinpants

    I also suspect that this article is a "token" article as well.

    March 22, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    • travelinpants

      Oh Yeah, There is no outrage because they are as i said they are.. no sense in being a coward about it now or ever for that matter. If you and those who keep silent believe that a gate is a way of keeping their neighborhood free from human beings they believe aren't worth life, then at least have the gumption to speak it and be proud of it. Otherwise, you are a coward and deserve the silent hell and torture you live now and will for eternity. No person, not even you, deserve such an ending to your life. It is a cowardly and evil way of being.

      March 22, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  17. travelinpants

    They aren't outraged is why you do not hear them speak on this. They simply cannot or will not face the ugliness, cruelty, hatred that they have bred and continue to breed in current, future and past generations.. Human beings are really wicked and disgusting sometimes. It is even amazing how little responses are on this board.

    March 22, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      There's no outrage likely because this kid is exactly who they imagined the walls were supposed to keep out of their neighborhoods, right?

      March 22, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • travelinpants

      travelinpants

      Oh Yeah, There is no outrage because they are as i said they are.. no sense in being a coward about it now or ever for that matter. If you and those who keep silent believe that a gate is a way of keeping their neighborhood free from human beings they believe aren't worth life, then at least have the gumption to speak it and be proud of it. Otherwise, you are a coward and deserve the silent hell and torture you live now and will for eternity. No person, not even you, deserve such an ending to your life. It is a cowardly and evil way of being.

      March 22, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  18. momoya

    Pinsky is specifically asking about "white church" outrage.. It seems to me that churches or the black/white/korean/spanish breakdown of your congregation has almost nothing to do with outrage over the incident.. Shouldn't it be the job of that community regardless of what 'races' are in the community?. Shouldn't it be up to the individuals most involved whether they are believers or not?.

    March 22, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • PunksNotDead

      Agreed. Very good point. The author should not be calling out just white churches but all if he feels there is a problem with the reaction. Making this white vs black churches doesnt help the situation.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
  19. William Demuth

    Trayvon was black.

    Thus no outrage.

    But rest assured if the colors were flipped, many men in white hoods would be sparking up some lawn ornaments!

    March 22, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      Yup, how many would just accept a black man's word that he was forced to kill a white kid in self-defense who just happened to be in a black neighborhood?

      March 22, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Oh Yeah

      "Honestly, judge, that white boy came sauntering down our street, as bold as you please. Of course, he had to be up to something! That's why I had to run him down and shoot him. Why else would be be in my neighborhood? It was self-defense!"

      March 22, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • BG

      @ Demuth (only because he's such an easy target...)

      "If the colors were flipped... men in white hoods..."

      The 'colors' are flipped all the time – mostly by non-whites. So Demuth really meant to say "black men in the hoods."

      You're welcome, Bill.

      March 22, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • William Demuth

      BG

      Skin heads always lack a sense of humour.

      March 22, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • jpsloot

      Maybe so, but you can't deny that black churches have never specifically spoken out against black-on-white violence, either. I'm not saying it's prevalent and those incidents do often get paraded around by the white supremacy types. The point is, it's very rare that any racial group will stump for another, regardless of religious affiliation.

      March 22, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • Bob

      Wasn't that long ago, a group of AA kids set fire to a white kid because he was.......wait for it.....white. Where was your rage then Will?

      March 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • PunksNotDead

      Wow, you are a joke. Amazing. You protest racism with racism.....disgusting

      March 22, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
  20. momoya

    Umm.. Mr. Pinsky, white people aren't supposed to talk about racism.. See if you can get CNN to take down this article real quick.

    March 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
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