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March 25th, 2012
06:24 PM ET

Philadelphia priest abuse trial to open, targeting archdiocese's higher-up

By Ross Levitt and Susan Candiotti, CNN

(CNN) – Opening arguments are scheduled for Monday in Philadelphia in the first case in which an official of a Roman Catholic archdiocese has been accused of protecting abusive priests by moving them from parish to parish.

Monsignor William Lynn has pleaded not guilty to conspiracy and endangering the welfare of a child. Lynn served as the vicar of clergy in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia from 1992 to 2004, a position in which he was responsible for investigating reports that priests had sexually abused children.

A grand jury alleged that he knowingly allowed priests accused of abuse to continue in the ministry in roles in which they had access to children, according to the district attorney's office. Lynn "acted as if his job was to protect the abuser, never the abused," a January 2011 grand jury report concluded.

CNN's Belief Blog – all the faith angles to the day's top stories

But Lynn's lawyers argue that the monsignor had informed his superiors - including Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua, who died in January - that priests in the archdiocese were assaulting children.

The Lynn case has had reverberations across the country, including the October 2011 arrest of Bishop Robert W. Finn in Kansas City, Missouri, on charges that he failed to report suspected child abuse by a priest. Finn pleaded not guilty.

Lynn's case has already had some surprises in the weeks leading up to this point. The latest came Thursday, when a co-defendant, defrocked priest Edward Avery, accepted a plea deal and was sentenced to 2-1/2 to 5 years in prison.

The deal does not require Avery to testify against Lynn, leaving open the question of how it ultimately affects the case.

"This is a very mysterious plea," says CNN legal analyst Paul Callan. "And it will be interesting to see as the trial rolls on why this plea was really entered, because there's something going on that we don't know about at this point in time."

In February, the defense had a bombshell of its own. Lynn's attorneys presented a document that seems to show that in 1994, Bevilacqua ordered shredded a document prepared by Lynn that listed the names of suspected abusers.

In jury selection process, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Common Pleas Court Judge M. Teresa Sarmina as saying in open court, "Anybody that doesn't' think there is widespread sexual abuse within the Catholic Church is living on another planet."

The comment prompted calls for Sarmina to recuse herself. She has not.

Because of a court-mandated gag order, all parties in the case are prevented from commenting. But Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, says Sarmina was inappropriate and incorrect.

"We don't have a problem today," Donahue said. "We had it in the '60s and '70s and in the first part of the 1980s. If [Sarmina] goes in there with that mindset, I think she should have recused herself. She's already –as far as I'm concerned - she's damaged goods."

Victims' advocates say the Catholic Church still has a problem with priest abuse.

"We have seen no evidence either that the Catholic Church has really changed anything," says Barbara Blaine, president of Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests. "We have seen them change their public relations and their statements, but we still haven't seen one bishop to be fired or publically punished for enabling or covering up for a sexual predator priests."

Blaine hopes this case will give survivors like Rich Green some justice.

Green, the nephew of deceased Cardinal John O'Connor of New York, says he was abused by a priest at a Philadelphia high school in 1990. The priest died in 1999, and the statute of limitations has run out on Green's ability to sue the Philadelphia archdiocese.

Green did receive a settlement from the Archdiocese of Wilmington, Delaware, where the priest's order is based, and says he plans to attend Lynn's trial as often as he can.

"We are asking for these people who are responsible for destroying our lives to be held accountable for what they did to us," Green said. "We are the ones telling the truth, and I don't understand why the Catholic Church can't tell the truth."

Finding the truth will be the job of a jury that is likely to hear testimony from alleged victims; a possible taped deposition from Bevilacqua; and perhaps from Lynn himself.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Catholic Church • Christianity • Courts • Crime • Pope Benedict XVI

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  1. Gwynethj Spiwakj

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    July 12, 2012 at 7:57 am |
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    April 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
  3. Reality

    The "vomit-inducing" ped-ophilia and coverup will simply hasten the decline of all religions as they finally go extinct from their own absurdity.. It is time to replace all religions with a few rules like "Do No Harm" and convert all houses of "worthless worship" to recreation facilities and parks.

    March 27, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Proven

    March 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Jesus

      ~You've been proven a liar over and over again on this blog. A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested Friday morning...

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      Plus don't forget. The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.!

      March 26, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • use your brain, dummy

      The Nazis were christain, the tortures of the inquisition were by catholics, over 11 million American Indians were massacred by christians,.. What we have learned? Religions have no concept of humanity or the universe and clearly are not a group that has set a good example.

      In fact it is good people, not religions, that do good deeds. And that includes atheists. Religions steal the good works of others and claim it as their own.

      March 26, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • just sayin

      you are wrong on Nazis, wrong on inquisition and wrong on native Americans. The True Christianity is not responsible for any of those events. National socialism was never Christian but either Nordic or as its furher was atheist.

      March 26, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • use your brain, dummy

      it was your evil twin who was responsible. You are too funny. Christianity has no concept of humanity or the universe, get a life. In fact christianity has proved to be no better than any other group, that includes no better than atheism.

      It's good people who do good deeds and that includes atheists doing equally good deeds. The difference is that atheist do it without a promise of eternal life, not for selfish salvation.

      March 27, 2012 at 7:41 am |
    • just sayin

      There is no good in atheism

      March 27, 2012 at 9:03 am |
  5. Doc Vestibule

    Jose Barba Martin of Mexico tried for years to have his accusations against the founder of the Legionaries of Christ heard by the congregation. In the end, it took eight years for Rome to discipline the Rev Marcial Maciel, and require him to live a life of reserved prayer. Maciel died in 2008 before the Legionaries admitted he had fathered at least one child and molested young seminarians.
    A letter written by a now-dead Canadian bishop shows church officials knew of se.xual abuse allegations involving a priest before his promotion to a top Vatican post and then discussed with Vatican officials how to keep the scandal from becoming public.
    There is also Catholic priest who was defrocked after a nun accused him of rap.ing three children in Bolivia who has been living with his family in Uruguay for more than a year – with the full knowledge of Uruguayan church officials – despite an Interpol warrant for his arrest.

    In 1962, The Vatican relased the 'Crimen Sollicitationis', which outlined how the church is to handle accusations of se.xual impropriety against clergy.
    The stickiest point for most people is that not only was the doc.ument itself Top Secret for decades, it explictly stated that anybody involved in this type of investigation, including the accuser and potential witnesses, are sworn to secrecy regarding any and all details, upon penalty of excommunication (a fate worse than death for the devout).
    This preoccupation with secrecy significantly slowed the investigative process – the backlog of referrals to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for action against se.xually abusive priests is so large that it takes 18 months to get a reply.
    According to the John Jay report, 918 of 1872 (49%) substantiated allegations of abuse against Catholic clergy were addressed by sending the priest off for psychiatric counseling and then moving him to another parish, with nary a whisper to law enforcement. This number does not include priests relocated for reasons other than charges of se.xual impropriety.
    The Irish Commission to Inquire Into Child Abuse from 2009 came to the conclusion that ""the Dublin Archdiocese's pre-occupations in dealing with cases of child se.xual abuse, at least until the mid 1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its as.sets. All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities."

    March 26, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • a victim

      the catholic church is supported not only by their herd, but by politicians out for catholic votes. I was sev-erel-y so-do-m-iz-ed at ages 8 and 9, once intentional-ly suf-fo-c-at-ed where I played de-ad and slept in the woods. These were all by catholic priests. One is a bishop today. The John Jay report under-st-ate-d the volumes of ab-u-sers and ab-use-s, since that doc-u-ment was com-mis-sion-ed by the catholic bishops. Where did they get information from? The bishops. You got it, the same bishop who so.do.miz-ed me contributed. BTW, the bishops were responsible for investigating abusive priests. Imagine that!

      BTW: the abuses happened in New Yo=k state. And politicians as NY catholic Senator Defransisco stop laws so that the church and their worst crimes of cover up remain quiet and victims denied. The truth is the greatest healer and this senator with the catholic church deny that truth.

      March 26, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • a victim

      There were a total of 5 priest pedos in western NY who abused me. 4 are around children today. Two recently held a camp for disadvantaged boys. It's not the catholic children who need to worry, it's your children now. Yes, they will stalk your kids because the the catholic kids are now off limits.

      You can thank those as catholic senator Defransisco of Syracuse NY for letting these pedos free. And so you are not fooled by their twisted logic: There are no statutes of limitations on murder and the primary witness is dead. In pedophilia, they average 80 victims, and that makes for lots of witnesses. DNA can be tainted, but lots of witnesses reveal the truth. This makes pedophilia, outside the family, one of the easiest crimes to solve.

      March 26, 2012 at 10:48 am |
  6. Voice of Reason

    The wealthiest cult in the world. Why can't people see that this organization is the evil they propose to defeat. If there is anything bad in this world it is organizing bad ideas and getting a lot of people to buy into it, just like our politicians. It is mind boggling that we allow this type of destruction of our race. Apparently there are not enough of us to stop this insanity as the numbers don't lie, there are just way too many people that believe in god and religion, the two most dignity sucking leeches ever created by man.
    DO NOT ALLOW RELIGION AND GOD IN YOUR HOME. KEEP IT AWAY FROM YOUR CHILDREN. LET THEM DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHEN THEY ARE OLDER AND MORE CAPABLE OF MAKING REASONABLE CHOICES.

    March 26, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • Jenny

      Don't keep your children from playing with matches or getting into the medicine cabinet. Let them make their own choices when they are older, better informed and able to make a rational decision about such things.

      March 26, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      @Jenny

      You make no sense, you are blind, deaf and delusional, just like the rest of the supernatural weirdos.

      March 26, 2012 at 10:01 am |
  7. William Demuth

    i HOPE A VICTIM BLOWS HIS BRAINS ALL OVER HIS EVIL ALTAR!

    March 26, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  8. Keith

    Hey cnn...Here's a story for you...No charge.
    .U.S. Silent on Top Saudi Cleric’s Call to ‘Destroy Churches’

    ..
    (CNSNews.com) – Ten days after Saudi Arabia’s foremost religious leader called for a demolition of all churches in the Arabian Peninsula – in line with a purported injunction by Mohammed – the U.S. government and other allies of the kingdom have yet to react.

    Major media outlets also have largely ignored the incident; a Nexis search finds reporting on the issue has been restricted to blogs and opinion columns, including a Washington Times editorial on March 16.

    On March 12, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh was quoted in Arabic media reports as telling a visiting Kuwaiti delegation that it was “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.”
    Now THIS sounds worthy of a Belief Blog, yes???

    March 26, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • Keith

      Jud 1:3 ¶ Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

      March 26, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • PsiCop

      That the Saudi regime represses religions other than Wahhabist Islam within its borders, is not "news." It's been going on for a long time, actually. Why would CNN report on a story of the "water is wet" or "the sky is blue" variety?

      March 26, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Well, Keith thinks CNN should do so because he's obsessed with it and believes posting on a blog no one reads is going to get the job accomplished.

      KEITH: Look at the bottom of your screen. See that little phrase "contact us"? Click on it. Write to the people you claim you want to influence.

      Otherwise, the only thing you're doing on here is posturing. And being totally boring.

      March 26, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • Keith

      PsiCop, He said it while in Kuwait. He was talking about the entire region-not just Saudi Arabia.

      March 26, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • Keith

      Tom the koo-aid chugger swallows every thing cnn says-or doesn't say as the case may be. Evidently Israel never bombed a Syrian nuke site in 2007 because by Tommy's logic, if cnn didn't report on it-it never happend. Take another gulp, Tom.

      March 26, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
  9. lastofall

    If it is so, then shame on him; but if not, then shame on them.

    March 26, 2012 at 2:59 am |
  10. Bootyfunk

    about freakin' time. these guys have used the "i'm a christian, so don't hold me to the same standards" shield long enough. disgusting.

    March 26, 2012 at 12:20 am |
  11. mandarax

    "But Lynn's lawyers argue that the monsignor had informed his superiors – including Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua, who died in January – that priests in the archdiocese were assaulting children."

    He told other priests – that's the problem. Any moral person would tell police.

    March 25, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
  12. Reality

    Only for the newcomers:

    Why did today's pope, prelates, preachers and rabbis, so focused on society's se-xual sins, lose sight of clerical se-xual sins?
    "
    FEAR, SHAME and GUILT and COVER IT ALL UP!!!

    Obviously, ordination in any religion is not assurance of good behavior !!!!!

    Neither is coronation!!! e.g. Henry VIII, King David.

    Neither is marriage as 50% of those men convicted of pedophilia are married.

    Neither is being elected president of the USA!! e.g. Billy "I did not have se-x with that girl" Clinton, John "Marilyn Monroe" Kennedy"

    Neither is possessing super athletic skill!!! e.g. Tiger "I am so sorry for getting caught" Woods.

    Neither is being an atheist or pagan since pedophilia is present in all walks of life.

    If someone is guilty of a crime in this litany of "neithers" they should or should have been penalized as the law dictates to include jail terms for pedophiliacs (priests, rabbis, evangelicals, boy scout leaders, married men/women), divorce for adultery (Clinton, Kennedy, Woods), jail terms for obstruction of justice (Clinton, Cardinal Law) and the death penalty or life in prison for murder ("Kings David and Henry VIII

    March 25, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
  13. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Noted for the record: just sayin admitted that Hitler did indeed claim to be a Christian doing God's will.

    Thanks for coming clean, just sayin. It's a start, honey. You are on your way to a more honest life! Congrats!

    March 25, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Ghost

      Don't do it, Crack is whack!

      March 25, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thanks for your input, Whitney.

      March 25, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • just sayin

      Tom, Tom must have posted under the name Just sayin to be able to make such a statement or else it like Hitler lies about everything. Hitler was by thought and deed an atheist.

      March 26, 2012 at 5:35 am |
    • Reality

      "The allegation is sometimes made that Hitler was a Catholic – a Christian until the day he died. This claim is based upon the fact that Hitler was born and raised in a Catholic family.

      However, as an adult, Hitler specifically rejected the Catholic Church, as well as Christianity in general. He described himself as "a complete pagan".

      The book Hitler's Secret Conversations: 1941-1944, published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc. (1953), contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the t-itle, Hitler's Table Talk: 1941-1944, which ti-tle was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.

      Some excerpts:

      All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:

      Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

      "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7) "

      10th October, 1941, midday:

      "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)"

      March 26, 2012 at 7:36 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Never said Hitler wasn't an atheist, simpleton. Show me a post in which I did so.

      March 26, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Hitler was no friend to atheists.
      "We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out".
      The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, Oxford University Press, 1942
      Having been exposed to religious methods of persuasion in school at a Benedictine cloister, Hitler recognized religion’s power to keep the people compliant.
      Hitler publically professed his Christianity until his dying day and used Christian arguments to whip his people into a frenzy. This is why Nazi uniform belt buckles were emblazoned with the slogan “Gott mit uns” (God is with us).

      March 26, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • TR6

      Reality:”"The allegation is sometimes made that Hitler was a Catholic – a Christian until the day he died. This claim is based upon the fact that Hitler was born and raised in a Catholic family.
      However, as an adult, Hitler specifically rejected the Catholic Church, as well as Christianity in general. He described himself as "a complete pagan".
      The book Hitler's Secret Conversations: 1941-1944 contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views.”

      Beware, this is a discredited source, and at the very best, its disputed, and no serious historian relies on this information.

      March 26, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • Reality

      See expanded information at http://answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html

      March 26, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
  14. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Funny, how quiet it's gotten in here. I wonder why just sayin is not posting its usual drivel. Don't you? Maybe it's because it finally realized it's full of sh¡t.

    March 25, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • just sayin

      Might you be the same Tom, Tom that considers the words of Adolf Hitler truth?

      March 25, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Might you be the same just sayin that just admitted they were indeed the words of Hitler?

      Thanks for playing!

      March 25, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ohh, and it's 10 minutes since my post! And you haven't responded? Silence equals consent.

      Thanks for admitting you are a lying sack of sh!t, honey!

      March 25, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • just sayin

      I unlike you have a life. Hitler was a liar and an atheist, i will not accept his words as truth.

      March 26, 2012 at 5:36 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You have a life? No, you don't, you pinhead.

      March 26, 2012 at 9:38 am |
  15. Bootyfunk

    "We are asking for these people who are responsible for destroying our lives to be held accountable for what they did to us," Green said. "We are the ones telling the truth, and I don't understand why the Catholic Church can't tell the truth."

    sorry, it's church policy.

    March 25, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • The truth?!?!?!?!?!

      Can you really expect truth from an organization that says "Jesus is Magic, God will torture you if you don't obey, and we are in charge! And could you spare a few bucks while you are at it? Jesus is a bit short of cash at the moment"

      March 25, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
  16. Space Cat

    Throw him in an acid bath! Meow meow!

    March 25, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • The Revenge of the Return of the Further Adventures of Sniffy Bob, Assistant Accountant from Beond the 29th Dimension!

      You are quoting Jesus on his plans for showing his love to people who lived good and decent lives but did not choose the right religion.

      March 25, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
  17. Tonia

    Kill him! Kill him in fire!!!!

    March 25, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • Can you play the balalaika?

      Isn't that what God is supposed to say at the end of times?

      March 25, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
  18. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 25, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • momoya

      Not for the victims, here, apparently.

      March 25, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • just sayin

      Are you creating victims here?

      March 25, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How would pointing out that there ARE victims amount to creating them?

      March 25, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • just sayin

      Might you be the same Tom,Tom who quotes Adolf Hitler as truth?

      March 25, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Might you be the same just sayin that denies Hitler wrote those words?

      March 25, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • just sayin

      I would be the same just sayin that would know better than to ever quote the lying murderous atheist Adolf Hitler as truth. You seem somehow convinced of the maniacs veracity. How long have you been a follower of Adolf Hitler?

      March 25, 2012 at 7:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      When did you stop beating your children?

      Really, dumbazz, get a clue.

      March 25, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      just sayin, do you deny Hitler wrote the words?

      March 25, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • just sayin

      I do not accept the words of atheist Adolf Hitler for anything. He has been proven a lying, atheistic murderer. If you choose to accept the words of Hitler as truth that is all the more to your shame.

      March 25, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So you deny that Hitler ever wrote or said the words I posted?

      March 25, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • just sayin

      I really hate it when I say something and somebody makes be support it with evidence.

      March 25, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thanks, Captain Obvious.

      March 25, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • just sayin

      You present Adolf Hitler as proof i.e. truth, I present Adolf Hitler as a murdering, lying atheist. I am more than willing to let our positions be examined. It is obvious that you will cling to the words of Hitler for comfort, I will not.

      March 25, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Nope. Do you deny Hitler wrote/spoke the words I quoted?

      March 25, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Come on, Braveheart. Go ahead. Tell everyone that I misquoted. That I made up the quotes I posted. Go ahead.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That's what I figured.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      *tappy foot* Come on, little coward, put up or shut up.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sie sind ein Stück Scheiße und gerade sagen. Sie sind solch ein Feigling Sie won' t sogar besitzen bis zu Ihrer Dummheit. You' Relächerliches, Sie Scheißekopf.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Come on, John of Aardvark, step up to the plate. If you're such a brave warrior for your 'god', stop being such a weenie.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      My goodness, just sayin, are you dead? Unconscious? Struck dumb by the facts?

      Should we call 911?

      Nah. No one would care if you died anyway.

      March 25, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • just sayin

      I do not accept the words of Hitler as truth.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • Tom Tom dials 811

      Hello 811 what is your emergency?

      Tom Tom:just sayin is MIA

      811-Just saying what? who?

      tomtom-mumbles some expletives *&^(*)

      811-Can you repeat that?

      tomtom-just sayin is MIA since my last Hitler truth message on this blog!

      811- Sir, do not panic! ok, we are sending folks from the looney bin to come get you.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I nailed it. just sayin is hemorrhaging. Poor little dolt.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • ???????????????????

      What the fuck is 811? An emergency number for people too stupid to find the 9 on their phone?

      March 25, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • This is getting weirder and weirder

      811 is the National Call Before You Dig number. Seriously. How that relates to the post abve is a total mystery.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Well... considering that it's just sayin we're talking about, 811 is quite apropos. I mean, really, its head is either up its azz or buried in the ground, nest pas?

      Why would anyone imagine that just sayin had a grasp on reality? Of COURSE it would type 811 TWICE. It's a clueless f# cktard. It couldn't find its azz if it had a flashlight in one hand and its az z in the other.

      March 25, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • just sayin

      Rave on, an old Nazi trick lie and deny. All thinking people now know where your disgusting sympathies lie.

      March 26, 2012 at 5:37 am |
    • Jesus

      -.You've been proven a liar over and over again on this blog. A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested Friday morning...

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      Plus don't forget. The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!!...-

      March 26, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "All thinking people"? You don't know any 'thinking people', just lyin. Thinking people in real life wouldn't talk to you if they were stuck in an elevator with you.

      March 26, 2012 at 9:41 am |
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