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April 7th, 2012
08:48 AM ET

Taking a rare tour of a Mormon temple

By Eric Marrapodi and Brian Todd, CNN

Kansas City, Missouri (CNN) – Elder William Walker slipped white booties over his black wing-tip shoes and instructed his guests to do the same as he led them into the newest Mormon temple in the world.

This day was the first chance the public had to see inside the sacred space for the area’s 49,000 Mormons, and it was also one of the last.

On May 6, when Thomas S. Monson, the head of the 14 million member Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, dedicates this temple, the doors will close forever to the public. The church said it expects as many as 100,000 visitors in Kansas City before the temple will be closed to the public.

After that, only temple-recommended Mormons will be able to walk through the heavy wooden and stained-glass doors.

“This is a sacred space, set apart place for only those who are devout followers of the faith,” Walker said.

For Mormons, temples serve as places of contemplation, instruction and worship experiences, like weddings and posthumous baptisms.

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The 67-year-old Walker is the executive director of the Temple Department, and he is the point man for the church’s 137 temples.

Walker is a top official in the LDS church as a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy and he reports directly to Monson. The Canadian-born hockey fanatic has been a lifelong member of the church. He graduated from Brigham Young University, served a Mormon mission to Japan and spent time in the private sector working in securities and investment banking before being called to serve the church full-time in 2002.

Kansas City’s temple is the latest to open. The church has announced it will build 29 temples across five continents. Construction is under way in Paris and Rome, and temples are planned for Peru and South Africa.

“We’re building temples where the church is grown and have a concentration of members,” he said.

Outside the new Mormon temple in Kansas City, Missouri.

Inside the temple the required first stop is the Recommend Desk. After the dedication, only Mormons who have a recommend card are able to enter and participate in worship. The personalized cards are given by local church leaders to adherents who profess to be living in accordance with church teachings.

As he explained the process, Walker reached into his wallet, pushed his Utah driver’s license aside and pulled out his recommend card, which was endorsed by Monson, his bishop. Walker said his credit-card-sized recommend card, like all others, is only good for two years.

CNN was invited by church officials to tour the temple with Walker before its dedication. The church denied CNN's request to film inside the space, saying it was against church policy. The LDS church provided still images after the tour, which accurately depicted key parts of the temple. In a rare move, CNN was permitted to film inside the front of the temple at the Recommend Desk, but no farther.

"It's not about secret. It's about sacred,” Walker said after the tour, making what the church sees as a key distinction. “We feel that it's a very sacred and special place and therefore it is reserved for those worship functions and those ordinances that take place in the temple. It's not about secret."

Walker said the policy is not unlike that for Shinto shrines in Japan, where he served his mission.

But it's a thin line between sacred and secret. Public tours of the temple are only available when they are first built or undergo massive renovations. After that, outsiders and Mormons who are not temple recommended are kept out, even from wedding ceremonies.

In the sealing room, where eternal weddings take place, Walker points out the altar at the center of the room. The bride and groom kneel facing each other and the officiant stands off to the side. The room is richly decorated with Swarovski crystal chandeliers and massive gilded mirrors on either side of the room, and Walker raves about the design on the white carpet, carefully explaining how local artisans cut the meticulous pattern by hand.

Despite the grand size of the building, each room is small: This is the biggest of the three sealing rooms, and its capacity is just 49 people.

Guests are welcome at Sunday worship at one of the church’s 18,000 meeting houses, Walker is quick to note. The temple, he observes, “is a sacred, special place that’s unique. There are only 137 of these temples in all the world.”

The temple also contains a gleaming baptismal font. Though it’s a point of pride for Mormons, it has been controversial elsewhere. A church ceremony called “proxy baptisms” by Mormons includes posthumous baptisms of Jews, some of whom have protested the practice.

The baptismal font at the newest Mormon temple.

However, in Mormon doctrine, baptism is essential for salvation. While converts to the faith are baptized in services at local wards, the weekly meeting place for services open to the public, proxy baptisms take place only in the temple and in private.

The proxy baptisms are supposed to be for Mormons’ ancestors who were not of the faith. Walker said the baptism serves as an invitation to accept Mormonism as an avenue into heaven.

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At the temple, Walker took his visitors through the process as it is supposed to work.

The font rests on 12 oxen, which he said represent the tribes of Israel.

Adherents change into white gowns he jokingly referred to as "jumpsuits," provided by the temple. A male priest leads the proxy into the waist-high water, gives the blessing and the name of the ancestor, then the proxy is lowered into the water, fully immersed, then brought up to the surface. The desk next to the font has a small monitor and a light. That person's job is to record the act for the church's central database.

When the temple begins operation, Walker said, this is a scene that will play out “hundreds of times a day.”

But some Mormons have used the church’s extensive genealogy database to baptize others who are not Mormon ancestors, such as the murdered Jewish reporter Daniel Pearl and holocaust victims like Anne Frank. It’s a practice that has outraged Jewish leaders.

“When people violate the church policy of doing baptisms for those who our leaders have said we’re not going to do that, they’re acting on their own in contradiction of church policy,” he said. “We’re unhappy about that. We love our Jewish friends. We don’t want to offend them or anyone else by our religious practices.”

“We’re sorry. We live by our word and when we say we’re going to do something, we’re going to try and do it,” Walker said.

He promised disciplinary action.

“We’re now tracking those who’ve done this contrary to church policy and we’re going to shut down their access to the church’s database, Family Search, so they can’t do this.”

He acknowledges interest in proxy baptisms, and other Mormon practices, has spiked thanks to Mormon Mitt Romney’s run for president.

While the church takes no position on party politics nor allows its officials to endorse candidates, Walker can see some good coming out of Romney's run for the White House.

“I think it’s perfectly understandable people who are considering him would want to know more about the church he espouses,” he said. “In many ways it may be a good thing that people will want to know more. Maybe some of the old ideas about the church that have persisted in American culture can change.”

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soundoff (4,366 Responses)
  1. TinkerB1

    Dear biologixco – please go away! You are not a very nice person.

    April 11, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  2. LonePine

    Reading this post has made me laugh, especially all of the hate-mongering biologixco and other similar posters like to sling around. Why would I laugh at this, you might ask? Because you really think that you're exposing all of the great and terrible "secrets" of Mormonism that are supposed to turn the upcoming elections against Mitt Romney and the general public against the LDS church. The fact is, you're only repeating the same things that everyone has already heard and has long since ceased caring about. All faiths have unique doctrines and some of them are even quite strange to those of other faiths. The LDS theology is, of course, no exception. Nothing you're saying is new, nor is it news. You're just another in a VERY long line of broken record players who insist on playing the same song over and over again.

    Finally, a note of economic sanity. If a company if failing, its workers will lose their jobs regardless of whether or not a venture capital group speeds up the process or not. Its the natural cycle of life and business alike. The real Americans go out, better their situation, and better themselves because of it. The rest point fingers.

    April 11, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • biologixco

      Hate mongering? I dont feel the mormon love!!! *snif*
      My goal is to let America know that the mormon LDS church is trying to insert their HIGH PRIEST and ELDER into the position of President of the United States.
      AMERICA, Would YOU elect a cult leader as President?
      I certainly WOULDN'T!

      April 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • biologixco

      Oh, and those that brag about pleasure found in firing American workers (MITT ROMNEY),
      certainly CANT be of Christian faith. Is this the kind of behavior the LDS church espouses?

      April 11, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • zip

      The average American knows very little about the Mormon church. But they are about to. And the backlash against the church will probably be substantial. Why? I am a Christian. My Bible says that anyone that changes the words of the Bible is committing blasphemy. The Book of Mormon has certainly changed the Bible. Therefore, Mormons are blasphemous. That is not hateful. It is a statement of fact. I have no problem with people that are Mormons. But do not call yourselves Christians. That is blasphemy. And any decent Baptist minister in the South will tell you that.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • lily

      To biologixco:
      My father is a High Priest and my husband is an Elder in the LDS faith. Almost every man above the age of 19 is! Believe me, there is nothing special about them! Now, you should be worried if the Mormon Prophet became president, but don't worry, he never will. So stop freaking out!!

      T0 zip:
      Any decent Baptist minister in the South would not openly attack another person because of their beliefs. I do call myself a Christian and I do not blasphme. You blasphme because you are denying my right to claim the worship of our savior. I see you as a fellow follower of Christ, even though you deny my right. I hope one day your faith will accept my faith as Christian, because it is what I am. But I fear you are all to hateful and blind to do so....

      April 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Mr. Spock

      Your bible? Who's bible is it? Who wrote it? What's it about? Oh yeah, a bunch of stuff that can't be proven but wars and suffering always follow in it's wake. Zip, you are just another spreader of hate using that same book that has been the source of intolerance and human suffering for hundreds of years. There are good things to be gained from reading it, but intolerance and hate should not be on the list.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • zip

      So I'm just supposed to sit back and let you make a mockery out of my faith, huh? Don't confuse standing up for truth with hate. It's your burden. Bear it. And enjoy the fiery lake.

      April 11, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • KCArrowhead

      Zip:

      Is there something in the "Southern Baptist" Bible that doesn't appear in the ones we Methodists use? I'm quite familiar with mine, and there is nothing in it which states: "anyone that changes the words of the Bible is committing blasphemy." Or even words to that effect, for that matter.

      Inasmuch as the Bible wasn't even compiled until hundreds of years after the last writer died, that would be an impossible reference.

      April 11, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
  3. pastmorm

    Wow Randy, I VERY rarely call someone a liar, but your response to my post is incredibly dishonest! Joseph Smith was never a part of the American military. He was driven out of town after town and created his own militia of which he made himself a general.

    Helen Mar Kimball was the name of his 14 year old wife that he married a year before he was justifiably killed in jail.

    You know VERY WELL that if people do not accept the mormon gospel on earth or afterlife then they will not go to the Celestial kingdom where GOD and Jesus Christ dwell so it's the same as saying they don't go to heaven.

    Your overuse of the word sacred is disgusting. Secret is secret. If non-believers are NOT allowed into a building, then what is going on in that building is a secret, NOT sacred. We don't need a President of the USA that keeps secrets from its citizens!!!!

    And in your bible quote does it say that those other "sheep" are on the American continent??? Maybe they were somewhere else in the vast expanse of the middle east or Africa. Seriously, that scripture DOES NOT prove the validity of your Book of Mormon.

    Everyone may indeed be a son or daughter of God, but for you to say that yours is the ONLY TRUE, RESTORED CHURCH ON THIS EARTH is for you to say that you are a cult and that you are superior to everyone else. That is unacceptable.

    April 11, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Mr. Spock

      "Justifiable killed in jail" – Is that what you call justice? A mob of people attacking a jail house and killing a man already incarcerated? I am so glad there are only a very few people who think(hate) like you in this country. Postmorm, I think you need a time machine to go back in time to the 1840's and live around more people like yourself because you aren't going to find too many friends these days who would say "Justifiable killed in jail" and think its a normal thing to say. Where is the love in your heart man? Where is the love? What would Jesus do?

      April 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Mr. Spock

      Also, your argument with Randy is like teasing him for believing in the tooth fairy when you clearly believe in Santa! It cracks me up because neither one of you will ever be able to prove anything because both of your beliefs are based on faith. What is faith? "A Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof." Neither one of you have proof, so what's the point? My spaghetti god is better than your jellyfish god?!?!? My daddy can beat up your daddy... It's like a playground argument from kindergarten only you two are adults and should be farther down the road of tolerance than where you currently are.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • pastmorm

      Mr S. and anyone else reading this. I challenge you all to look up the points I've made against the mormon church. They have nothing to do with faith. They are true and disturbing. That's why mormons keep trying to change the subject, bear their testimony, put down anyone that would question them and call absolute, true evidence that can be found on the internet or in The History of the Church written by Joseph Smith, The Journal of Discourses written by Brigham Young, Mormon Doctrine, written by Bruce, R. McConkie. LOOK. IT. UP.

      April 11, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
  4. Kimmy

    For accurate and correct info on Mormonism go to http://www.lds.org or http://www.mormon.org. You will find everything you need to know on these official church websites.

    April 11, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • pastmorm

      That's right Kimmy....official brainwashing can be found on the site you provided. Thank you!!!

      April 11, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
  5. biologixco

    John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

    Where does Joesph Smith, kolob and magic underwear fit in? IT DOESNT!
    He is a false prophet!

    April 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • Hear This

      biolog:
      "He is a false prophet!"

      So was "John"... and Paul of Tarsus and the rest of the first century zealots.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Mr. Spock

      You have said enough to show everyone reading this thread your true colors. A religious zealot with nothing more to do than to troll this story and promote your brand of intolerance. Again, what a perfect use of your time. You are only appealing to other hate mongers like yourself and are not gaining converts to the cause of Christianity I can promise you. But keep it up, at least you are not out on the streets with your outdated diatribe.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
      • biologixco

        Thanks for your comments.
        Yes, I believe in my cause.
        But at least I have a belief and a cause that is right.
        JUST SAY NO TO MITT ROMNEY 2012!

        April 11, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Hear This

      oh, and also add Moses and the other primitive Middle Eastern Hebrew desert guys to the false and whacko list.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • biologixco

      If you don't believe. You simply don't understand. But I would never hold that against you. Thanks for your comments. Have a great day!!

      April 11, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  6. biologixco

    Let me remind my mormon friends of one simple fact:
    There is only ONE God.
    There is only ONE Word of God.
    Not the quran, not confucious teachings and certainly NOT the book of mormon.
    If I were you I would find a new church and beg God's forgiveness...

    April 11, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • biologixco

      Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

      1 Kings 8:60 — That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

      Isaiah 46:9 — For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • Mr. Spock

      So, now you just outed yourself as a true intolerant bigot by mentioning other's religions. Your way of viewing the world is out dated and thankfully most of my religious friends, Christian or other, do not look at peoples religious beliefs the way you do. It's your brand of intolerance that has historically caused so much division, hate, wars and suffering of human beings for thousands of years. Good job mate, good job... What a legacy you leaving behind on the earth.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
      • biologixco

        I don't feel the mormon Love *snif*

        April 11, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Paddy

      biologixco,

      Mormons believe in the same basic Leprechaun King as you do. Fun to see you argue about if there are 2 buttons or 3 on its imaginary vest, and whether the vest is brown or green...

      April 11, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • biologixco

      Is that the same Leprechaun King I saw on my box of Lucky Charms this morning?

      April 11, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Paddy

      biologixco, "Is that the same Leprechaun King I saw on my box of Lucky Charms this morning."

      Perhaps. Most folks stop eating that stuff after around age 12, though.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
      • biologixco

        What a coincidence. RANDY thinks Im 12 too! Is everyone a child, or is that just a Catholic Pedophilia complex you have?

        April 11, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
  7. Mr. Spock

    To Zip and biologixco – First of all, both of you are divisive promoters of hate and intolerance.

    Definition of Cult – 1. A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. 2. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.

    So, by that definition any religion would be considered a cult. The funny thing about these hate mongering so-called Christians wanting to denigrate others beliefs is this... All Christians willingly believe a virgin had a baby and also believe that same baby, half God and half man later died and then came back to life, walked around, talked to people and then flew into heaven with angels. All I'm saying here is this: If you call yourself a Christian and believe these events to be true, then what place do you have to condemn anyone for what they believe in? I'm sure other religions of the world think Christians are a cult of crazies for believing such impossible things.

    Now, you two afore mention knuckle heads, and anyone else that calls themselves a Christian don't say another word about what someone else believes to be true in their hearts before you take a long hard look at the reality of what your beliefs are. These beliefs you hold on to only because that's what your parents taught you, and because it was written down and compiled into a very old book by people that lived more than a thousand years ago. No one has any proof their religion is correct or true other than what they feel in their heart. There is no evidence of truth other than internal feelings. Your feelings are no more valid than anyone else's. Once you understand that, you will finally start to understand the "love of your neighbor" spoken of by that same Jesus you claim to believe in.

    Peace.

    April 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • pastmorm

      Wow Mr. S...you sure do represent the mormon church well with your abusive, condescending put downs and name calling. Thank you for reminding us why we avoid people like you and your cult!!!

      April 11, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • biologixco

      knuckle head?
      John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

      To read that passage bring tears to my eyes and a heavy heart for my mormon friends.
      The Good Book does not mention Joseph Smith as being a valid prophet of God.
      Im merely doing God's work by exposing this.
      God controls my fingers across this keyboard.
      The good folks at CNN have seen fit to print my comments...

      April 11, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Mr. Spock

      Yes, knuckle head... You are reading from an antiquated book of fairytales which event's cannot be proven as fact. It's like believing in Santa and getting mad at the kids who believe in the Easter Bunny too. You sound just as whack.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • Mr. Spock

      pastmorm

      I'm agnostic... not Mormon. I think all religions are clubs for the weak minded adults that need believe in fairytales. It's great for kids but at some point the adult mind needs to mature and stand on it's own. There are many excellent reasons to be a good person and do good things other than doing it out of fear of some unseen being's wrath or fear of not getting some future reward after you are dead.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  8. pastmorm

    There's no doubting that Joseph Smith put the name of Jesus Christ in the book he wrote Stan...however.....

    You also believe in a man named Joseph Smith that declared himself a general against the American Government and then said he would create a Theocratic Monarchy with himself at its head.

    You also believe in a man named Joseph Smith that married a 14 year old girl – even though he already had plural wives – because he told the child's family they would receive instant eternal salvation if they have her to him (Smith).

    You also believe in becoming a god after this life if you have committed to and followed all of your temple rituals sincerely and without deviance.

    You also believe that anyone that is not a mormon will NOT be allow to be with Jesus Christ or God, no matter how good they are, if they do not accept your gospel (religion) to be the only true church. For example. Mother Teresa will not be in heaven if she does not accept a posthumous baptism in the after life.

    You also believe that you must take on secret temple names, wear garments (underwear) that has secret symbols that are used in secret rituals in the temple as well as a blood oath that began in 1843, but ended in 1990 when there was a general uproar amongst non-mormons that found out about this particular ritual.

    You also believe Blacks and Native Americans were marked with dark skin for being evil in the pre-life or because they just displeased god.

    You believe that once you are a god of your own world, you with your heavenly wife will create spirit children that will then fill the earthly bodies of human on your own particular planet that you rule over...meaning that you are already (in certain terms) better than the God that created this planet.

    You do believe that Lucifer and Jesus were and are brothers.

    April 11, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • Randy

      Never stated he was a general against the U.S. he was a general in a state militia, sanctioned by the state of illonois.
      Joseph Smith didn’t marry a 14 year old girl. Although that charge has been made by detractors.
      Heavenly Father said to become like him. Your mis-quoting again.
      No where in the LDS faith will find it said that only “Mormons” go to heaven. As to what degree of glory read. Paul mentions those in 1Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. Only Heavenly Father can judge that.
      The term you are trying to find is SACRED as in holy. If you want to know what Covenants are made in the Temple you would have to first find out for yourself if the Book of Mormon is true. No one started life running.
      The mark you are referring to is found in both the Bible and Book of Mormon. The mark of Chain ring a bell? It has nothing to do with a person’s skin color.
      John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd. Are you saying that Heavenly Fathers work has an end?
      We are all sons and daughters of God.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • pastmorm

      You also believe in a man named Joseph Smith that declared himself a general against the American Government and then said he would create a Theocratic Monarchy with himself at its head.

      You also believe in a man named Joseph Smith that married a 14 year old girl – even though he already had plural wives – because he told the child's family they would receive instant eternal salvation if they have her to him (Smith).

      You also believe in becoming a god after this life if you have committed to and followed all of your temple rituals sincerely and without deviance.

      You also believe that anyone that is not a mormon will NOT be allow to be with Jesus Christ or God, no matter how good they are, if they do not accept your gospel (religion) to be the only true church. For example. Mother Teresa will not be in heaven if she does not accept a posthumous baptism in the after life.

      You also believe that you must take on secret temple names, wear garments (underwear) that has secret symbols that are used in secret rituals in the temple as well as a blood oath that began in 1843, but ended in 1990 when there was a general uproar amongst non-mormons that found out about this particular ritual.

      You also believe Blacks and Native Americans were marked with dark skin for being evil in the pre-life or because they just displeased god.

      You believe that once you are a god of your own world, you with your heavenly wife will create spirit children that will then fill the earthly bodies of human on your own particular planet that you rule over...meaning that you are already (in certain terms) better than the God that created this planet.

      You do believe that Lucifer and Jesus were and are brothers.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • pastmorm

      Randy, read my response to your ridiculous response to my post. I have to say, you have found a new way to lie and feel good about it! How sad that you stoop so low to defend your cult.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • Stan

      Randy. It is like Christ, the Sadducees and Pharisees. They continually tried to prove the Savior wrong. Christ answered all their questions, but they never gave up. They only looked ridiculous.

      April 11, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
  9. Stan

    Those Pesky Mormons. Look what I found in the Book of Mormon just a few examples. “Feast upon the words of Christ; for behold, the words of Christ will tell you all things what ye should do” (2 Nephi 32:3) " And now, my sons, remember, remember that it is upon the rock of our Redeemer, who is Christ, the Son of God, that ye must build your foundation” (Helaman 5:12). “Come unto Christ, and be perfected in him” (Moroni 10:32). How dare they teach such things about Christ? Maybe they are Christians after all.

    April 11, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • biologixco

      They sure want to be seen as Christians.
      Americans can spot a fake a mile away!
      But once Americans find out about Planet Kolob, Joseph Smith and the Mystical Magical Underwear, they will understand why mormons were run outa Missouri and Illinois circa 1840.
      Just like there is NO SCIENCE in SCIENTOLOGY,
      The book of mormon is blasphemous!

      April 11, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • Stan

      biologixco Has no clue what he is talking about. The logic of a 2 year old. Only throws out cheap shots he knows nothing about. You have no clue why they were run out of Missouri. Here is a question for you. Why did they crucify the Savior? I'm sure with your logic, he must have deserved it.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Stan

      From the sound of biologixco's comments he would have been one of those believers at the time of Christ calling for him to be crucified. My bet is you have never read the Book of Mormon, therefore your opinion has no merit. Form you comments you obviously no nothing about Mormons. You would have been the kind of hateful person that ran them out of Missouri. You tell us, what did they do that deserved having their houses burned and their children killed? Would you be for having them driven out today? Burn their houses, drive them out into the winter causing their children to die from exposure? Is that the kind of Christian you are? I see you don't mind calling them names, mocking their beliefs, or mocking their scriptures. I bet you would have been a good Pharisee.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  10. sickofmomos

    Really Randy? Is that all you momos can say is, "you sound bitter?" I can't tell you how many times I've read that. Usually bitterness comes from a bad experience. I'd say anyone experiencing your church has a bad experience at some point. Have you never been bitter? Can you come up with something better? LOL!

    April 11, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
  11. biologixco

    Romney Supervised Medical Testing Company Guilty Of Massive Medicare Fraud
    GOOGLE: ROMNEY DAMON CORP.
    Cheating our government of MILLIONS in a Medicare FRAUD scheme, then selling the company for a profit, with THOUSANDS of workers losing their jobs.
    Is this the kind of activity the mormon LDS church condones of its members?
    America wants to know...

    April 11, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • biologixco

      Earth to Planet Kolob Earth to Planet Kolob
      We have a pesky American named biologixco.
      He wont stop asking pointed, pertinent questions.
      He's on to us and spreading the word to other Americans!
      Aim the death ray at him and stop this questioning!
      We can't take it and we dont know what to do!

      April 11, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Randy

      Looked it up. Nothing really there. As to the LDS. Read Daniels Post. Thirteenth article of faith. 13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things

      April 11, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
      • biologixco

        What exactly is honest, benevolent or virtuous about firing American workers??? These are our friends, neighbors, relatives! Don't you CARE for your fellow man, or is the Christian aspect of your religion just a fake facade

        April 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • sickofmomos

      Wow Randy, you sound like you think you're the only people who look for good things or try to be good people. Welcome to the human race! Now get off your high-horse and tell us if you really practice what you preach, because they way we see you going after non-mormons is showing your true colors.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • Randy

      Going after? I quoted another. That is going after? Hmmm
      I didn't read anything in that quote that stated LDS people think they are the only people who seek after those things or believe them. Maybe I need to brush up on my reading skills?
      I'm pointing out that for three days there has been no real dicusion on Mitt Romeny's policies. As to firing american workers. Is he the only person to ever fire another? I think not.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
      • biologixco

        Randy, Randy Randy. 3 days Ive been on here? WHY are you counting? Count on this: the election of mitty is 208 days away. I wouldn't look forward to my disappearance BEFORE then. Unless Commander Smith shoots the KOLOB death ray at me

        April 11, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
  12. biologixco

    Randy asked if I have another question. Oh yes I do. Im one of those pesky NON mormons that just wont go away
    Here is the question for my mormon friend:
    LDS High Priest MITT ROMNEY has said that firing American workers made him feel good.
    Is that another position condoned by the mormon church?
    Hurting your fellow man?

    April 11, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • biologixco

      *crickets*

      April 11, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Randy

      Wow nice way to miss quote. Mitt Romney has closed and opened fired and hired many people and companies. That's what his career field does. Either invest in a company to expand it and hire poeple or get rid of as much toxic debt as possible. As to the LDS on this issue. No Christian church I know of tells it's followers who to hire and fire. Your really not making a good case here. Problems with him as a person? sure. Problems with him being a Christian? Nope. Problems with anyone's religion that teaches use to treat each other with respect? Not at all. Your grasping at straws with the Mormon connection. Talk about his policies or how he cuts his hair, just find something that isn't just plan Mormon bashing. Although I understand that President Kennedy had much the same comments made about his being a Catholic.

      April 11, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • biologixco

      Ack. Grasping at straws? Look up the word ETHOS.
      This man is vying for POTUS.
      Americans have a need (and a RIGHT) to know how this mans religion and character would affect decisions made while he would be Prez. Like I said before. When Nov comes and mittyboy is TOAST, you can go back to your 10 wives and magic underwear and we will leave you alone...

      April 11, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • biologixco

      Until then, mormons better grow a thicker layer of skin.
      The questions only get more intense and the chorus louder.
      You want your boy to be our President?
      You better get used to it...

      April 11, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
  13. Daniel

    Here are the thirteen articles of faith that all members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe.

    1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
    2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
    3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
    4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
    6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
    7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
    8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
    9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
    10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
    11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
    12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
    13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

    April 11, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • biologixco

      Once people find out about planet kolob, magic underwear and MITT Romney, the gig will be up folks.

      April 11, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • Blake

      I truly hope you don't think anyone is going to read all that mess. You are a follower. You believe what you were told to believe. You were told this is the way it is, it's the truth. You were given no proof and were told to have faith. Faith is the belief that something exists when in fact it doesn't. Religion is for the weak minded who cannot think for themselves. Think about it, do you really think an all powerful diety would stand by and watch his son being tortured and murdered? Seriously, humans would be the last thing such a diety would worry about. If God was so powerful, he wouldn't need his son to die, he'd just forgive us and move on. We would be lower than a Chia Pet; no more than a weed. When you die, you are gone. There are no chariots flying around with winged horses snorting fire out their noses. Remember Apollo, Zues and Poseidon? They were gods too. Guess what, people caught on that they were't real. You believed in Santa Clause once, didn't you? Get the point? You are believing in the biggest lie mankind has ever fabricated.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • pastmorm

      You also believe in a man named Joseph Smith that declared himself a general against the American Government and then said he would create a Theocratic Monarchy with himself at its head.

      You also believe in a man named Joseph Smith that married a 14 year old girl – even though he already had plural wives – because he told the child's family they would receive instant eternal salvation if they have her to him (Smith).

      You also believe in becoming a god after this life if you have committed to and followed all of your temple rituals sincerely and without deviance.

      You also believe that anyone that is not a mormon will NOT be allow to be with Jesus Christ or God, no matter how good they are, if they do not accept your gospel (religion) to be the only true church. For example. Mother Teresa will not be in heaven if she does not accept a posthumous baptism in the after life.

      You also believe that you must take on secret temple names, wear garments (underwear) that has secret symbols that are used in secret rituals in the temple as well as a blood oath that began in 1843, but ended in 1990 when there was a general uproar amongst non-mormons that found out about this particular ritual.

      You also believe Blacks and Native Americans were marked with dark skin for being evil in the pre-life or because they just displeased god.

      You believe that once you are a god of your own world, you with your heavenly wife will create spirit children that will then fill the earthly bodies of human on your own particular planet that you rule over...meaning that you are already (in certain terms) better than the God that created this planet.

      You do believe that Lucifer and Jesus were and are brothers.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • Randy

      pastmorm you sound very bitter. What happened?

      April 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • pastmorm

      Randy, how can I sound bitter? I said nothing of my own feelings in my post. I pointed out your own beliefs. You cannot deny them can you? That makes you afraid, so you try to attack me...calling me bitter is a little lame....:o)

      April 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Randy

      Never stated he was a general against the U.S. he was a general in a state militia, sanctioned by the state of illonois.
      Joseph Smith didn’t marry a 14 year old girl. Although that charge has been made by detractors.
      Heavenly Father said to become like him. Your mis-quoting again.
      No where in the LDS faith will find it said that only “Mormons” go to heaven. As to what degree of glory read. Paul mentions those in 1Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. Only Heavenly Father can judge that.
      The term you are trying to find is SACRED as in holy. If you want to know what Covenants are made in the Temple you would have to first find out for yourself if the Book of Mormon is true. No one started life running.
      The mark you are referring to is found in both the Bible and Book of Mormon. The mark of Chain ring a bell? It has nothing to do with a person’s skin color.
      John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd. Are you saying that Heavenly Fathers work has an end?
      We are all sons and daughters of God.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • pastmorm

      Wow Randy, I VERY rarely call someone a liar, but your response to my post is incredibly dishonest! Joseph Smith was never a part of the American military. He was driven out of town after town and created his own militia of which he made himself a general.

      Helen Mar Kimball was the name of his 14 year old wife that he married a year before he was justifiably killed in jail.

      You know VERY WELL that if people do not accept the mormon gospel on earth or afterlife then they will not go to the Celestial kingdom where GOD and Jesus Christ dwell so it's the same as saying they don't go to heaven.

      Your overuse of the word sacred is disgusting. Secret is secret. If non-believers are NOT allowed into a building, then what is going on in that building is a secret, NOT sacred. We don't need a President of the USA that keeps secrets from its citizens!!!!

      And in your bible quote does it say that those other "sheep" are on the American continent??? Maybe they were somewhere else in the vast expanse of the middle east or Africa. Seriously, that scripture DOES NOT prove the validity of your Book of Mormon.

      Everyone may indeed be a son or daughter of God, but for you to say that yours is the ONLY TRUE, RESTORED CHURCH ON THIS EARTH is for you to say that you are a cult and that you are superior to everyone else. That is unacceptable.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Randy

      Pastmorm
      Voter-conscious Illinois Democrats and Whigs (including Abraham Lincoln) passed a bipartisan city-state charter for Nauvoo in 1840. On December 16 the governor signed it into law, granting Smith and the city of Nauvoo broad powers. Among these was the authority to create a "body of independent militarymen". This force was a militia similar to others in Illinois, and it became known as the "Nauvoo Legion". At its peak, the militia had, by conservative estimates, at least 2,500 troops, in comparison to the approximately 8,500 troops within the entire United States Army as of 1845.[1] The Legion was organized into two regiments (called cohorts) of infantry and one regiment of cavalry. A few light cannon were also attached.

      Helen Mar Kimball was 15 summer old by her own diary. The age range of marrage in 1800's was 15 to 20 years old..

      You are spliting hairs with the degrees of glory spoken of by Paul. All are heaven and Heavenly Father and Our Savior dwell where they will. Only Heavenly Father can deside who goes to what glory.

      Name onle President who hasen't kept secerts from American citizens. Sacred means holy. Every religion has Sacred beliefs. Do you deny this?

      The sheep I spoke of can and problably are all over the world. No one people have sole claim to the Savior.

      So you accept that was are all childern of our Heavenly Father. Thank you. As to your statement "but you to say that yours is the ONLY TRUE, RESTORED CHURCH ON THIS EARTH is for you to say that you are a cult and that you are superior to everyone else." Catholics believe they are the only true church, do you judge them the Same? Sense all Christian follow one person (that being the Christ) by the Oxford dicitionary we all are members of a cult.

      April 11, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
  14. KCArrowhead

    bioligixco:

    I grew up in a very legalistic and judgemental church which taught that if you didn't adhere to their version of truth, then you were lost. I am not LDS, and I am not misrepresenting myself. I will just say this to you – the greatest theologian may be humbled by an ignorant wretch who shows more love and compassion. Two scriptures for you:

    “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
    “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
    “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

    If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,b but have not love, I gain nothing. ... Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.

    So what is more important, getting all the "facts" straight about God, or showing love to Him and those who claim Him?

    April 11, 2012 at 12:38 am |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      KCArrowhead

      The bittered fruits of wisdom are said in your words KCArrowhead!

      April 11, 2012 at 12:56 am |
    • Dave

      Calling out false prophets and not allowing your fellow man to get sucked into a cult is more important.
      Preventing Romney from POTUS is important too.
      How can any decent Republican kneel at the altar of mormonism?
      Its blasphemous...

      April 11, 2012 at 12:59 am |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      Dave,,,,,,,,,

      The puppetmaster must have broken some strings! To the workshop with you!

      April 11, 2012 at 1:06 am |
    • Cant Stand Mity

      It has nothing to do with this article, since you are here read a little more....When Romney ran against Ted Kennedy he wanted to be more liberal than him. His church will want you to give up your soul republicans. We need a true conservative in 2016...let the DEM have 2012.... Republican hang on to your beliefs for 4 more years. Dont sell your soul...Dont vote romney the reversible mittens.
      Thank u for reading

      April 11, 2012 at 6:23 am |
    • Cant Stand Mity

      It has nothing to do with this article, since you are here read a little more....When Romney ran against Ted Kennedy he wanted to be more liberal than him. His church will want you to give up your soul republicans. We need a true conservative in 2016...let the DEM have 2012.... Republican hang on to your beliefs for 4 more years. Dont sell your soul...Dont vote romney the reversible mittens.
      Thank u for reading what u I already said that

      April 11, 2012 at 6:23 am |
    • biologixco

      Any level headed person can tell you are mormon.
      Its the wispy cultlike deer-in-the headlights wording of your statements
      Why would you LIE and say you are NOT LDS?
      I can assure you, mormons don't condone lying.
      Do they?

      April 11, 2012 at 11:52 am |
  15. Judged

    I love how in the bible it teaches us to love one another, and love thy neighbor. Yet in reading most of these comments it is SO negative and tears people down. I am Mormon, and I am SO grateful the church teaches love and kindness. I am also glad to have the Book Of Mormon, ANOTHER testimate of Jesus Christ. Which used hand and hand with the Bible. The truth is that Heavenly Father will be the only being that can judge me. This I am most grateful for. People can take down about religion they are only making themselfs look bad. I am proud to be a Christian (someone who believes in Christ) but also a Mormon!

    April 11, 2012 at 12:22 am |
    • biologixco

      Just remember:
      IF you are a good Christian...
      No good Christian would EVER vote for Willard (mittens) Romney.
      Spread the word.
      Shout it from the highest Utah mountain...mountain....mountain (hey I hear an echo!)

      April 11, 2012 at 12:28 am |
    • Pipe-Dreamer

      So says !he puppet to other puppets and to hell with the puppet master!

      April 11, 2012 at 1:01 am |
  16. biologixco

    NEWS FLASH: MITT ROMNEY DISCLOSES SECRET SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS
    You might ask: Isnt that Illegal? Immoral? Unethical?
    How does the mormon doctrine handle this one?
    Ill tell you how the American People will handle it:
    DONT VOTE ROMNEY 2012!

    April 10, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
    • biologixco

      Shout it from the highest Utah mountain!
      Just say NO to Willard (mittens) Romney 2012!

      April 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
    • Jon Gluvna

      dick soak

      April 11, 2012 at 12:20 am |
    • Holly in CA

      It is not illegal or immoral to have a Swiss Bank account. In fact, it's a really smart thing for the wealthy who need to diversify and keep their money in various places. US banks only insure up to a certain amount. In the case of a multi-millionare that's a lot of banks to keep track of. Swiss Banks are known for their safety and security.

      April 11, 2012 at 1:24 am |
    • Randy

      Bio your repeating yourself again, okay so for three days now. Read the 12 article of faith of the LDS Church. "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." That should answer your repeated question. Now do you have any meaningful questions?

      April 11, 2012 at 10:30 am |
      • biologixco

        Im not going away. Especially now that MITT ROMNEY has a clearer path to the White House. Once November comes and mittens is toast, you can go back to your 10 wives and magic underwear and I will leave you alone.

        April 11, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • biologixco

      You are partly correct. It IS legal to have a Swiss bank account. I even have one with Credit Suisse. But that is only so I can conduct business in Europe. What is NOT legal is NON DISCLOSURE of this account. There is a big difference. MITT ROMNEY had a SECRET Swiss bank account for the express purpose of cheating the US Govt. out of taxes due. That my friends is illegal, unmoral and un ethical. How could we ever trust a man with this kind of dishonesty?

      April 11, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • Randy

      Afte reading your posts I looked for a News story about your claim of TAX evasion. I've checked news outlets both left right and in the middle. None of them have said there is any solid proof of tax evasion.

      April 11, 2012 at 11:50 am |
      • biologixco

        Don't worry. The story is coming to light as we speak.
        President Obama is calling him out on this one.
        You and I both know there are few reasons to have a SECRET UNDISCLOSED Swiss bank account. He entered the Voluntary Disclosure Program run by the IRS. This is GONNA come out!

        April 11, 2012 at 11:56 am |
      • biologixco

        mormon friend, check out my latest posts.
        I cant seem to get any solid answers to questions I pose. Why Is that?

        April 11, 2012 at 11:58 am |
      • biologixco

        It took me 2mins to find this story:
        Romney Failed to Disclose Swiss Bank Account Income. ABC news Jan 26, 2012

        http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/romney-failed-disclose-swiss-bank-account-income/story?id=15447680#.T4WuE1G0zmk

        You were saying?

        April 11, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Randy

      I said no solid proof of tax evaision and that story you posted doesn't have it either, just innuendo.

      April 11, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
      • biologixco

        You goofy, bub. He JUST entered the Voluntary Disclosure Program in JANUARY. The IRS hasn't even filed papers yet. Stay tuned. This story is coming out.

        April 11, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
  17. KCArrowhead

    I toured the temple today. It was very interesting, and very beautiful. As a Methodist I obviously disagree with many of their teachings, but in doctrinal error or not the LDS do demonstrate as a whole a good Christian lifestyle.

    This past fall I sang in a multi-denominational Thanksgiving service held at a local Mormon Church. Included were choirs and ministers from Mormon, Catholic, Methodist, and Baptist (!) churches, among others. We focused on the things we had in common rather than our differences.

    I will say this. For those of you who bash the Mormons for their (to us) quite odd beliefs, remember this: we are not saved by conforming to one particular set of doctrines, nor by our deeds. We are saved by our belief in Jesus and acceptance of him as our savior. LDS believe that Jesus is the son of God, who died for our sins. That is the only requirement I have ever read in the Bible.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • zip

      Again, my Bible,and yours, says that whoever alters the Bible is committing blasphemy. The Book of Mormon clearly has altered the Bible. Therefore, Mormons are blasphemers. That is not hateful, it is fact. If your political correctness does not allow you to follow the teachings of your church, perhaps you better find another hobby.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • biologixco

      Odd beliefs? Like Planet Kolob and magical underwear?
      Sounds a little more like a cult than religion to me.
      Funny how you present the "united religious front"
      But once the American people learn more about those "cultish" practices, the less likely it is that MITT ROMNEY will be President of our Great Land. And my mission will be accomplished and you can go back to your 10 wives and magical undies.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • Leeann

      Thank you so much KCArrowhead for pointing that out. It is so nice to read something that is unjugemental about another religion.
      @zip
      The Book of Mormon and the Bible are two totally different things. I know this because my boyfriend has shown me.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
    • Serenity

      KCArrowhead thank you for your kind comments. Jesus was condemned by riotous people who screamed "Crucify Him" over the objections of even pilot. Biologixo and Zip meet the screeming criteria. They write untruthful and hateful posts and act like every one of us should agree with them. I don't read their posts anymore because they are so ridiculous. But thank you for your kind comments. You sound like a true disciple of our Savior.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • biologixco

      You sound like a true disciple of our Savior.
      Or a paid LDS shill.
      Its just too obvious.
      You should be more subtle in your attempts of dishonesty.
      You still aren't fooling anyone.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:16 am |
    • KCArrowhead

      Leeann and Serenity, my belief is that God is much more concerned with the status of our hearts – toward Him and towards each other – than he is about how our "t's" are crossed and "i's" are dotted. A Mormon sincere in her beliefs and doing her best to live a godly life will have an easier time standing before our Lord than a Catholic or Protestant who is insincere or hateful.

      There are those on here who would better be served by preaching or reaching out to those who deny Christ, not those who embrace him in a way they think is wrong.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:18 am |
    • Lurp

      To Zip,
      I understand that you may think that you read something about "altering words" in the book of Revelation, but you are aware that the bible is not one book, right? The term bible or biblia actually means library. The Book of Revelation, along with all others of the current bible weren't even fully placed together until the Nicene Creed of 325 AD. You are correct that John wrote that no one should add or subtract from the words written in his book(ie Revelation), but that has no bearing on the rest of the books in the bible, or any other text for that matter. I hope that you understand this.

      April 11, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • Randy

      Zip I believe your refering to Revelation 22:18-19. Which is correct, however what about Deuteronomy 4:2 which also admonishs form adding to or taking away. Since Deuteronomy comes before Revelation is Revelation adding to the book? The answer is no. Deuteronomy is refering to the books of Moses, while Revelation is the Apostile John refering to his book of Revelations.

      April 11, 2012 at 10:38 am |
  18. Leeann

    Don't ya just love how people run their mouths but the truth is they have absolutely NO idea what they're talking about? I've been dating my boyfriend, who is a Mormon and I am not,for a while now. I know what they believe and what they do not believe. Before you judge yall might wanna do some research and think about how you would feel if someone was targeting your religion.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • biologixco

      Google: Planet KOLOB, Joseph Smith, magic underwear(no foolin') and scientology.
      You might find that you have been sucked into a cult
      Remember, God has a special place for false prophets and their followers.
      Find your way before its too late.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • Leeann

      @biologixco
      I KNOW I have a place. I'm a Christian. I believe in God and I know He's with me. That doesn't mean you have to be judgemental of other's religion.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • biologixco

      Geez. Dont be so bitter. Try thinking for yourself. Control your OWN destiny.
      Why let a cult do it for you?

      April 10, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Leeann

      @biologixco
      Trust me, I AM thinking for myself. It's so ridiculous how people go around judging others religions but then say they follow the way of Christ. Seriously? That's the best way to be a hypocrite. I know we are not all perfect and we all judge others but really. There are some things you can say without being so hateful. And believing everything is a cult or people are getting brainwashed. Really. This ain't some kind of Harry Potter movie where people have magical powers. People can think for themselves and believe what they want.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • AGuest9

      This whole discussion is ludicrous.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • biologixco

      If this "ain't" a Harry Potter movie, then where do Planet Kolob and the Magical Underwear fit in?
      Sounds like Joseph Smith was the original Harry Potter author.
      And then to try to pan it off on Americans as "religion"
      Thats blasphemous, my mormon friend.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:07 am |
    • Get Real

      biologixco,

      Mormonism is only slightly more weird than your stuff.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:16 am |
    • Leeann

      The point to all this is that you should not be judgemental of others views or opinions. If it ain't what you agree with then ignore it and move on. Stop being so judgementaland get your facts right. Jesus is God's son. He died for our sins. God is much more concerned with what is in our hearts and us coming to be with Him.

      April 11, 2012 at 8:25 am |
  19. Kendall

    I have been dating my boyfriend for a little over two years now. He is Mormon and I am not. When we first started dating I had no idea what being a mormon was all about. He has explained it to me and tells me everything about his religion. I do not mock his religion and he does not pressure me into becoming a Mormon. People kill me how they talk talk talk about other religions and how all of them are bad and wrong. I'm sure half of the people who talk big don't even have a clue what they're saying. They're just trying to bring others down and be judgemental. We have freedom of religion for a reason folks! If you do not like one religion go find another! Let a person believe what they wanna believe. If it ain't affecting you then get on with your life. It's crazy at how obssesive people are these days.

    April 10, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    • biologixco

      If you think people on here that question the veracity of mormonism are "obsessive", you need to step back and understand what mormonism is all about. Then google: palnet kolob, Joseph Smith and magic underwear. You might see the light as to why it is labelled a "cult". But from your post, it looks like the LDS brainwashing has already set in. may God help you find your way...

      April 10, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • Kendall

      @biologixco
      You do not even know me! I am Christian. I love God with all my heart and soul. And I know He does not like people judging other people. I have not been "brainwashed". Geez everyone thinks everything is a cult these days. I have sat and listened to my boyfriend and missionaries explain why they believe in the church. I am not gonna sit there and judge them like some hateful person. People should people what they wanna believe. We don't make choices for other people. That's why it's called "freedom."

      April 10, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
  20. Wood Yi

    Harry Reid is also Mormon, but curiously, this does not seem to be a problem. So once can see that this lib bashing of Mormonism is merely character as assination and is politically motivated.

    April 10, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • zip

      The Mormon church is a cult. It is not a religion. True Christians are offended by the LDS. Politics has nothing to do with it. Reid and Romney are one and the same.

      April 10, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • Serenity

      Reply to ZIP. Mormons are not usually offended by the ignorant calling them a cult. We consider the source and sort of smile. Most Christians I know are not at all offended by LDS people. Your comment is biased and an out and out lie. Your agenda is to keep Obama in office which is indicated by your absurd comments.

      April 10, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
    • zip

      My agenda is to not have a cult member in the White House

      April 10, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • zip

      I have voted republican in every election since Nixon in 1968. This has nothing to do with politics. I am a Christian. My Bible says that whoever changes the Bible is a sinner. The Book of Mormon has altered the bible. Therefore, they are sinners. It would be a sin to vote for a Mormon. The Mormon church is a cult. I will not violate my religious beliefs to vote for a political philosophy. And a lot of other Christians feel exactly the same.

      April 10, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Just a different cult than your's, zip?

      April 10, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Serenity

      Zip, you keep saying the Mormon Church is a cult. Do you even know the meaning of the word? Google it. Prove that the Mormon Church is a cult without makeing absurd comments lik the Book of Mormon conflicts wtih the Bible and other little lies. If you keep yelling cult and hate, start proving it with factg after you look up the word cult.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:05 am |
    • Randy

      Oxford Dictionary
      Noun
      1a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object:
      the cult of St Olaf

      Origin:
      early 17th century (originally denoting homage paid to a divinity): from French culte or Latin cultus 'worship', from cult- 'inhabited, cultivated, worshipped', from the verb colere

      By this difinition all religions are cults.

      April 11, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
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