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April 17th, 2012
04:42 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Tuesday, April 17

By Laura Koran, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

Tweet of the Day:

From @iwritereligion: Pope turns 85 amid speculation of resignation – can a pope resign? http://wp.me/p1XU4T-YY via @WilmFAVS

Enlightening Reads:

Religion News Service: Man spends 12 months practicing 12 different religions, and finds peace at year’s end
Andrew Bowen sat yoga-style in his armchair, absent-mindedly fingering a set of Muslim prayer beads in his left hand as he talked about 2011 - his year of conversion. But he's not Muslim. In fact, the 29-year-old Lumberton resident doesn't call himself by any of the 12 faiths he practiced for a month at a time last year.

Politico: GOP to Mitt Romney: Own your Mormonism
Worries persisted this year as skeptical evangelical Christians flocked to other candidates—any other candidate it seemed — causing Romney to avoid all things Mormon in public. But now that the former Massachusetts governor is the likely GOP nominee, many Republicans think that the standoffish candidate actually needs to embrace his Mormonism publicly to open a window into his life.

The Christian Post: Top Australian Cleric Apologizes for Calling Jews 'Intellectually and Morally Inferior'
Australia's most senior-ranked Catholic clergyman has apologized for saying Jews were intellectually and morally inferior during a debate last week with popular atheist Richard Dawkins in which the two discussed religion and science. Cardinal George Pell of Sydney, who says his points during the debate were poorly made, also drew attention for suggesting Germans suffered more greatly than the Jews due to the Holocaust.

The New York Times: Seeking to Clear a Path Between Yoga and Islam
As a community activist in Queens, Muhammad Rashid has fought for the rights of immigrants held in detention, sought the preservation of local movie theaters and held a street fair to promote diversity. But few of those causes brought him anywhere near as much grief and controversy as his stance on yoga.

The Christian Post: Paganism and Witchcraft Placed Alongside Christian Studies in UK Schools
A U.K. school system has included the study of witchcraft and druidry on its official religious education syllabus for the first time, meaning pagan practices will be taught alongside contemporary religions, such as Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

Quote of the Day:

I find myself on the last stretch of my journey in life, and I don’t know what is awaiting me.

Pope Benedict XVI said today as he celebrated his 85th birthday. From the Catholic Herald.

Join the conversation…

Kirk Cameron released a documentary in theatres on Friday titled "Monumental.”

CNN: With 'Monumental' Kirk Cameron emerges as Christian activist
Kirk Cameron could have joined the ranks of former TV heartthrobs who rode off into the sunset, reappearing only for the occasional reunion show or career-reviving role in a TV drama. Think Ricky Schroder or Scott Baio. But Cameron, known to millions of Americans as Mike Seaver on the hit ‘80s-era show “Growing Pains,” is carving out a new niche for himself, as an unlikely voice of politically conservative American evangelicals.

- CNN's Laura Koran

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  1. Trancend

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Trancend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ will result in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Currently.... your constructing your own path that suits your sin lifestyle.

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find a truth you can take with you in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life. You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf, the greatest minds knowledge fate or are eventually plagerzed, your good deeds are forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated, your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over .
    Trancend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Relise your a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent....

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth.

    Sell your cleverness and purchase bewilderment. You don't get what you want you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Down is up. Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.

    Your all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.

    April 18, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Boots

      When you die, you will end. There is nothing after death for you. Nothing. All your fancy pretend games will end. You will be nothing. ONly your dead body will remain. Your brain will turn to stinking rotten goo, perhaps the only time it will have shown your true inner being in a physical manifestation.
      Enjoy your pre-death moments. There is no afterwards, no afterlife, nothing. For all your religious babbling, there is not one thing to show it is anything but delusional babbling of a simple-minded slave who is too retarded to understand the real world.

      April 18, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things,

    April 18, 2012 at 6:20 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.!.!

      April 18, 2012 at 11:11 am |
  3. Nonimus

    @Colonel Canada,
    As your name implies you are just as bad as CA. Way to oversimplify the entire war.

    April 17, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • Nonimus

      misposted

      April 17, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Colonel Canada

      Can you support your comment, Nom? All you supplied was ad hom. I'd be glad to discuss the war in detail with someone intelligent.

      April 17, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Colonel Canada,
      "Can you support your comment, Nom? All you supplied was ad hom."

      Is it really necessary that I support a comment of "you're oversimplifying" on a subject as complex as WWII, when your relevant comment amounted to two sentences and the rest was "ad hom" as you put it. "...those Christians in America? They were Isolationist cowards..."

      Okay, so be it.

      "Hitler was beaten by the Russians, pure and simple."
      So, the fact that there were multiple Allied nations, had no effect on the ability of Nazi Germany to fight Russia? Seems hard to believe, especially since Germany surrendered to the Allies and Russia, not just Russia. You may argue that the Russians were pivotal and perhaps the largest factor in Germany's downfall, but to say what you said is grossly oversimplifying, "pure and simple."

      April 17, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • captain america

      America supplied the Russians with virtually all of their war production as well as England and all the allies. canada amounted to a pimple on a warts ass in the world wars. There's your sign.

      April 17, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
    • Colonel Canada

      Yes, you must support it, because you supplied nothing but ad hom, and I could easily make the case that a 20-volume history of that war is an oversimplification, and be right. Your position really attempts to dismiss my point by a standard which essentially dismisses all discussion.

      So let's ignore that fallacious trap and discuss. Did the aggregate of the Allied nations combine to beat Nazi Germany? Sure, but the scenario was, Could the Soviet Union have defeated the Nazis if America had not gone to war, if they had gone it alone, and the answer is yes. Contrary to CA's silly assertion, only a tiny amount of their supliies was from the West. Helpful, but certainly not decisive.

      And by D-Day, the Red Army was deep inside Poland, only 400 miles from Berlin. They had it won, pure and simple.

      As to American Christians, they were heavily Isolationist prior to Pearl Harbor, as they were in WWI. You just cannot argue that they were not. Getting involved in world affairs, exporting democracy and nation building was originally a liberal foreign policy, not a conservative one. That all reversed with Viet Nam, where Democrats got burned and abandoned the approach, while the Republicans (and Christians) picked it up, much to America's detriment. Hopefully, they got their fingers burned too, enough to end that kind of thinking except in the rare cases, like WWII, of a just war.

      No, they weren't cowards; I only said that to piss off CA. But it does show how much Biblical interpretation has changed, because the scriptural point that made them pacifist was "thou shalt not kill", which they felt applied to war. Not so any more. Christian Isolationism ran so strong that in 1941, just before the war started, there was a propaganda film made to counter it about a religious contientious objector who became a war hero – "Sergeant York."

      You do recognize that America sat out the first 2 1/3 years of the war, even though England was in desperate straits, right? Even though Europe fell? Even though Japan ran amuck over the East? America only came in after Pearl Harbor, and even then, ONLY declared war against Japan – NOT Germany or Italy. Roosevelt would have if he thought he could have, but he couldn't. Hitler was kind enough to be stupid and declare war on the United States – America might very well have stayed out had he not done that.

      The real question regarding religion and war is, does it help in making moral judgements on when to fight it and when not, and the answer is not very impressive. Christians wanted no part of WWI and WWII (initially) when America morally should have gone in, and was strongly in favor in Viet Nam and Iraq when America should have stayed out. Christianity has a poor record of determining if a conflict is just or not, and of chosing the morally superior side.

      And if religion is a poor guide to determining major morality like that, just how legitimate can it be?

      April 17, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Colonel Canada,
      I'm not a historian, much less a WWII expert, but I'll try to present a decent argument.

      You said, "Sure, but the scenario was, Could the Soviet Union have defeated the Nazis if America had not gone to war, if they had gone it alone, and the answer is yes."

      I disagree. The statement was "Hitler was beaten by the Russians, pure and simple."
      While I agree with your as.sertion that an argument for the oversimplification can be made on nearly any position, I think the previous statement is not only unreasonably over simplified, if such were definable, but is, in fact, flat out incorrect. The Russians did not beat Hitler; the Allies did. Unless you are claiming that the other Allied nations, including America, didn't even fight at all and did not contribute in any way?

      In addition, I would argue that it is not clear at all, had America not been in the war, that Russia would have been able to defeat Hitler, primarily due to Allied pressure on the Germany's western front as well as the unknown effects Ja.pan would have had if America hadn't been fighting them and/or if Russia had to spend more effort on Germany because it in turn could spend less effort on it's the Western front.

      I will admit that America was working hard to stay out of the war, both 1 and 2, until pretty much forced to enter, however, whether you call that "isolationist" or neutral / non-interventionist, may depend on your definition. Although, if we go by Wiki (not that Wiki is a primary source, by any means,) then:

      "Isolationism is the policy or doctrine of isolating one's country from the affairs of other nations by declining to enter into alliances, foreign economic commitments, foreign trade, international agreements, etc., seeking to devote the entire efforts of one's country to its own advancement and remain at peace by avoiding foreign entanglements and responsibilities. "
      I think both the Lend Lease Act (1941, before Pearl Harbor) and the Atlantic Charter (1941, also before Pearl Harbor) would show sufficiently that America was not "isolationist" by that definition.

      On the amount attributed to Lend Lease, (also from Wiki, so feel free to provide better data)
      "A total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $647 billion today) worth of supplies were shipped: $31.4 billion to Britain, $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union, $3.2 billion to France, and $1.6 billion to China."
      While Canada, incidentally, "... operated a similar program that sent $4.7 billion in supplies to the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union."

      And britannica.com says, "The [total] money cost to governments involved has been estimated at more than $1,000,000,000,000"

      So, 50 billion out of 1 trilion is not huge, 5%, but that is only through Lend Lease, not military expenditures and, of course, not post-war Marshal Plan costs.

      Oh, and the Christian aspect of this argument, I couldn't care less about. (well maybe a little less, but not much.)

      April 17, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • Colonel Canada

      A well thought-out and articulate response, Nominus! I commend you. A bloody shame that I was not more available today to discuss this back and forth with you. Indeed, I can only toss in a couple comments.

      I think our two positions, that Russia would have won the war against Germany on her own, and that the other Allies made important contributions, are compatible with each other. If you were to ask the two biggest blunders Hitler made, one would be the invasion of Russia, and the other would be declaring war on the United States after the United States only declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor.

      If you look at the dates by which Russia already had the Nazis on the run and compare them to the dates America and the British Empire started making significant offensive headway on the Germans, well, you get the idea. If you look at the sheer size of the Red Army versus all the Axis forces (it was twice as large), you get the idea. My statement stands, but I accept that it does disrespect the contributions that America and the British Empire made.

      Japan is not relevant, as Japan and Russia were both very happy to stay neutral as their priorities were elsewhere. They were not competing.

      Had there been no Russian Front, a D-Day invasion would have been impossible for the other allies. Way way too many troops to oppose it, and there may well have not even been a Britain to launch it from.

      Wikipedia is not a good source on that as "Isolationism" was the phrase in use at the time – people like Lindberg were know as Isolationists. Nobody used the phrase "non-interventionism". Because Isolationism was the wrong approach for the time, the word apparently picked up negative connotations, and I guess "non-interventionism" replaced it. Wikipedia's use of a reinvented concept distorts what was actually happening in America before the war. I doubt you would be surprised to find that Wikipedia is not a particularly good source on some things.

      I also did not say that America was Isolationist – there was a large isolationist element in society (and the Christians were in that camp) that effectively kept America out of the war for years, but Roosevelt, an internationalist, was able to provide supplies via lend-lease (which the conservatives and religious people of the time opposed).

      I don't care about the Christian aspect either – that was simply put in to rub captain america's nose in his own fecal ignorance. That unfortunately had me word my initial comments poorly, as I did not expect a thoughtful discussion to come from it. I would have discussed it differently if I knew I was going to debate with someone of depth.

      We must chat again sometime. Not many here seem to be able to debate intelligently here. Well done.

      April 18, 2012 at 2:03 am |
    • captain america

      America tends to mind its own business unless provoke unlike canadians who represent about 0%of the population but are sticking their snotty noses into everyone else business. Real Americans think for themselves and do not require butt in canadian bull sh-it to do so. There's your sign

      April 18, 2012 at 7:17 am |
  4. Prayer is not healthy for living children

    Atheism changes things.

    April 17, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • just sayin

      Millions murdered under atheism in the last 100 years alone. Atheism is the worst state a human being can adhere to. God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      @ just sayin, your argument is played out. How about a logic quiz:

      Which of the following statements is logically valid?

      A. More people have died because of athiesm, therefore God exists.
      B. More people have died because of Christianity, therefore there is no God.

      The answer is neither, even if you had evidence to back up your claim it is a moot point. People of every race and religion have commited horrible acts, but as we know just because X% of group Y do bad things, does not mean group Y is bad or wrong.

      April 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • just sayin

      The only problem I see is that you lack logic. Try your "logic" on one of the countless millions killed by atheists. Christians don't kill. some who have stolen the ti- tle Christian have killed but close examination shows them to be wolves in sheep's clothing and in fact atheists. God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Did you even read the statements? The ending of each statement is whether or not God exists, not the quality of the people on either side of the argument.

      April 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • just sayin

      God Is. God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
  5. Nonimus

    Anyone seen the debate mentioned in, "The Christian Post: Top Australian Cleric Apologizes for Calling Jews 'Intellectually and Morally Inferior'"?

    Would be an interesting watch, I'm sure.

    April 17, 2012 at 11:40 am |
  6. Voice of Reason

    For the matter of a debate, let us say that you could have a criminal record if you wanted to run for president.

    Here's the scenario:

    A born again Christian that has a felony past of attempted robbery, 2nd degree murder, incest and terrorism is running for president against a known atheist that has no criminal past.

    As a Christian, who would you vote for?

    April 17, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • C'mon Bro

      As a Christian, I would vote for the atheist. Someone cannot just say they are a Christian and then go do whatever they want with no remorse. The point of being a Christian is being saved and then changing your life for the better. The bottom line, I would vote for the person who has the best credentials and who I would think will do the best job. I'd vote for a competent atheist over an unstable person stating they are Christian any day. I'd also vote for a competent atheist over a competent Christian if he had better credentials and I thought he'd do a better job at whatever it was.

      April 17, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      @C'mon Bro

      Tell me if I'm wrong but I was told that a person could do anything and then just accept jesus and you would get into heaven.

      April 17, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • C'mon Bro

      @VOR

      Yes you can be saved if you are truly remorseful and work to become a better person. That doesn't mean that you can say you've been saved and all is well. You still are accountable for your actions and need to take responsibility for them, starting with correcting what was wrong and those youve hurt. Christianity, and the larger topic of if there is/isn't a God, is way too complicated and long of a topic to discuss on an immature belief blog such as this. The topic isn't as simple as a "magical sky fairy" or "prayer changes things," and to act so is absolutely ridiculous.

      April 17, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • J.W

      I think that a Christian must be sincere. I don't feel it is acceptable to just say "well I can do whatever I want cause Jesus will save me." If they do not show sincerity in the faith that they profess to how will I know they can be sincere as president?

      April 17, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      So...if the born again is true in his heart and soul / spirit and is remorseful for his / her past deeds and accepts jesus, he will be accepted into heaven but what will he need to do to satisfy the humans to display his faith?

      April 17, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      If televangelists have taught us anything, all one needs to say is "God has forgiven me – why can't you?" and gullible people will happily send their life savings.

      April 17, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • C'mon Bro

      @VOR – The human needs to show remorse and try to correct whatever was wrong and live a better lifestyle. Doesn't mean you'll be perfect by any means, but you are striving and working to become better. Also that person should accept apologies from anyone who may have wronged them as long as the other is sincerely sorry. It's not as easy as "magical sky fairy" or "just say his name and you're saved." There's lots of historicity to the Bible and there's certainly questions about some stories (Adam/Eve, Flood, etc). The point is; it's a complicated subject and many of the comments are juvenile and non intellectual in nature.

      @doc – Many televangelists teach garbage and are wolves in sheeps clothing. I've seen many televangelists who are vile and I can't believe anybody falls for them. That however, doesn't mean that they represent all Christians or even what Christianity teaches at the heart of it. They have a way of completely skewing things solely to make money, and I believe those are the worst kinds of people. It's tough to decipher between lots of it and it takes much more work than a simple belief blog and comments that only touch on the most basic (and often incorrect) starting points.

      April 17, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • J.W

      Actually I do not think I would ever vote for someone with a felony on their record. But as far as the atheist I would also need to know they did not have some sort of agenda against religion like some do.

      April 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
  7. Pretty Sad

    Why does everyone want to argue on here and throw out cheap insults? Maybe 1% of commentors on here actually have well thought out statements, the rest are just angry trolls. What a sad state of affairs this world is in. And you wonder why our government and world is in shambles? Take a look at yourself and you'll see exactly why.

    April 17, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • momoya

      I don't agree on the percentage.. Would you agree that some posters here offer very valuable insight and quite extraordinary argumentation and reasoning?

      April 17, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Jack Pollackson

      So you really did not recognize the extreme irony and hypocrisy of your comment?

      "Our government and world is in shambles because of comments on the Belief Blog? Really?

      I've got news for you: America is nowhere near in as bad a condition as right-wing howlers want us to believe. We are still a great country, and that is going to continue. You have it good, even compared to Americans 75 years ago.

      Spare us your hysterical propaganda.

      The lack of discussion is due to the total inability of Christians to have an intelligent discussion. When asked for evidence to support their assertions, they respond with either dishonest argumentation or flat out ad hominem. They fall apart very quickly, and as a result get what they give.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • OBB (Occupy Belief Blog)

      We are the 99%!

      April 17, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • Nonimus

      @Pretty Sad,
      "Maybe 1% of commentors on here actually have well thought out statements, the rest are just angry trolls. "
      trolls you say?
      Doesn't that make your comment part of the 99% hurling cheep insults?

      April 17, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Automatic Translator

      "You kids get off my lawn!"

      April 17, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
  8. Yes Indeedy

    Who else makes multiple handles and posts under different names all the time? I know I do!

    April 17, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • great intellect my ass

      Ya and no one gives a sh -it

      April 17, 2012 at 10:06 am |
    • Anonymous

      Don't you think that's why these comments get so ugly? If people had to post real names the conversation would be much more civil. The majority of these posters behave like little children who think they know everything, when in fact they know nothing at all.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:14 am |
  9. lunchbreaker

    How about today we argue about the music we like? Anyone care to throw out some of thier favorite bands?

    April 17, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • jimtanker

      Stormtroopers of Death: Speak English or Die.

      April 17, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • I'm The Best!

      Favorite band changes with my mood but its pretty obvious (and logical to boot!) That country music is the worst.

      It has been written and so it is true! Now let's all point out fingers and boo country music.

      April 17, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Bad Religion! How many punk bands have a professor of Evolutionary Biology as their lead singer?
      Any band with Mark Lanegan in it (Screaming Tress, Soulsavers, QOTSA, Gutter Twins, Isobel Campbell, Twilight Singers).

      April 17, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      I'm not as familiar with S.O.D., but I do enjoy Anthrax. When I'm feeling energetic I like Killswitch Engage, Hatebreed, Soulfly, stuff like that. But when I need to chill I throw on A Perfect Circle, Type O Negative And every now and then Pink Floyd.

      April 17, 2012 at 9:31 am |
    • I'm The Best!

      Killswitch is good. I'll also throw in some children of bodom if I feel the need.

      April 17, 2012 at 9:36 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Some of the lesser know bands Ilike are Dog Fashion Disco and Psychostick.

      April 17, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • Brad

      King Crimson in several of its lineups. Anything involving David Gilmour. Anything involving Stanley Clarke. That'd keep me going for days.

      April 17, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • Bippy, the Lesser Squirrel-God of Infinite Regression

      My ideal Squirrelapalooza would have included The Clash, The Ramones, The Jam, Magazine, The Sex Pistols, a young Bob Dylan, some Johnny Cash and Woodie Guthrie, the Who, a short Beatles set, and the B-52s.

      And my votes for "Performers Most Deserving Of A Severe Acorn-Bonking On The Head would have to be everyone who ever competed for American Idol, all disco bands and rap performers, and every Christian music performer that ever polluted the planet with their putrified propaganda.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • Yessir

      I like all types of music genres but country is definitely my favorite. It speaks to the heart and promotes a positive message. I still like other genres (i.e. rock, rap, reggae, chill) but country is the best. Aint nothin like a good ole country boy!!

      April 17, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • just sayin

      God fearen, gun totin, pickup driven country boy. God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Hitler's Grandmother (Maria Ana Shickelgruber or something along those lines. After all I am doing this from memory).

      Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, Dio, Judas Priest.... Pretty much any early 70's to late 80's metal that isn't fruity. That's right, Hitler's grandmother listens to metal...

      April 18, 2012 at 2:16 am |
  10. Primewonk

    Captain America continues to show his profound xenophobia. I wonder why he hates other countries?

    April 17, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      Fear.

      A large playing field scares people with limited resources,

      By attempting to limit any given pool of voices in any arena, one may achieve a higher status in that hierarchy.

      It’s equivalent to protectionism in economic theory, but applied to the social sciences.

      I prefer a bright light, or big tent philosophy!

      Having associated with a few “closed social groups” in my life, I can attest that if the mindset succeeds, one can be surrounded by madness and never even be aware of it.

      Cap would prefer to be a big man in a small pond, but as for me, I would prefer to be a tiny fish in a greater ocean.

      April 17, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • A known Filipino

      @ Colenel Canada well America did win the war. Without us you'd be spreken the german and eating sausages made out of a cows ass, Either that or you'd be American citizens

      April 17, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    April 17, 2012 at 7:24 am |
    • Prayer is for the delusional

      PROVEN ... time and time again. For concrete evidence, I refer you to the above post. The poster's brain is made of concrete.

      April 17, 2012 at 7:27 am |
    • just sayin

      When someone is standing in a lake would you insist they are not wet? God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 7:30 am |
    • Prayer is for the delusional

      That depends... is it a dry lake bed? Lakes can and do dry up.

      April 17, 2012 at 7:37 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Difference is that lakes can proven to exist and have benefits to the earth.

      April 17, 2012 at 7:46 am |
    • captain america

      How is chances of considering the lakes in your own F'n country. There's your sign

      April 17, 2012 at 7:53 am |
    • just sayin

      Once you have been in the presence of God it is impossible to deny Him. God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 7:54 am |
    • Mirosal

      Being in the presence of any "god" is like confronting a werewolf, vampire, or zombie. The four things do not exist.

      April 17, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Ah CA's jealousy of other countries again.

      April 17, 2012 at 8:53 am |
    • The Superior Insights Of Colonel Canada, Who Outranks And Outclasses captain america ! ! !

      Here in Canada, we stand on lakes and don't get wet all the time! We even play hockey on those lakes. And in summer, we have the sense to use boats so we can stand in lakes and not get wet.

      You'll never get past captain, little one. You recognize your own inferiority bynot even capitalizing your own name.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • Anonymous

      Everyone on the the posts and replies to this comment is absolutely moronic. All you people should be ashamed.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • captain america

      In the field a canadian colonel is called a gopher. There's your sign

      April 17, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • just sayin

      @Anonymous
      Everyone who replies is moronic you say? Even you or especially you ? God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • David Illig

      “Religion is violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women, and coercive toward children.” - Christopher Hitchens.

      I'm David Illig and I know that Mr. Hitchens was right.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • The Superior Insights Of Colonel Canada, Who Outranks And Outclasses captain america ! ! !

      Back in the first two years of World War Two, we Canadians went straight over and got into the thick of things, earning great distinction, and where were you American Christians? Oh yeah, you Christians were Isolationists who did not want to go stand up for what's right in this world, who didn't want to go put a stop to people like Hitler.

      American Christians did not want to stand up to Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo. Well we Canadians did.

      Then, years later, you bloody Christian Americans were obsessed with fighting in Countries like Viet Nam and Iraq, where we had the sense to pretty much stay out.

      Nice going, you silly jingoist slut. God doesn't put much wisdom in his followers.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • Brad

      "Violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women, and coercive toward children" – Mr. Hitchens successfully identified several important features of humankind's sinful nature. I would hope that religion concerns itself with that.

      April 17, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      April 17, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • captain america

      WW 2 ? America won it ! Bailed you canadians out of the mess you went blindly into (twice in the same century) Every time England takes a crap there's canada with the TP. Reason and American ingenuity prevailed. There's your sign

      April 17, 2012 at 11:07 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      CA: You're an idiot!!! WW2 was won because numerous countries acted together. If you knew anything outside of your book of mythology you'd know this fact and you'd have clued in by now that this is an international station on the world wide web, thus anybody has access to it and if you don't like it, you are free to return to the people who share in your hate filled misery of an existence-FOX News. We're not leaving!!

      April 17, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • Colonel Canada

      Hitler was beaten by the Russians, pure and simple. You may not like it, but it's true. America was not putting enough men and material into the war to make a difference until 1943, by which time the Soviets had beaten the Germans at Stalingrad, and the long German retreat was already in progress.

      And those Christians in America? They were Isolationist cowards . . . until Viet Nam.

      American Christians: In favor of slavery, against both World Wars, for Viet Nam and Iraq. Nice track record

      April 17, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      And now there's a former US ambassador (don't recall his name or know his religious status) on FOX News advocating a "Ronald Reagan solution" (his words, not mine!) to North Korea – that is, he thinks the US should force, with force, the unification of North and South Korea. How quickly some Americans forget their "successes". . .

      April 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Colonel Canada,
      As your name implies you are just as bad as CA. Way to oversimplify the entire war .

      April 17, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • sam

      Jesus Christ, it's like roll call!

      April 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • just sayin

      Prayer was instrumental in ending slavery, first through the Christians in Great Britain then through the American Christians and churches. God bless

      April 17, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Prof. Canada, Historian

      Christianity was on both sides of the slavery issue before and during the Civil War. Abolitionist Christians in the North, however, were far less numerous than pro-slavery Southern Baptists (and others) in the South. The Christian abolitionists were few and considered very radical. The Southern Baptish Convention, on the other hand, was specifically created to provide pro-slavery Southerners a religion – yes, Southern Baptist movement was born in support of slavery.

      And for the first two years of the war, the North fought to restore the Union, not to free the slaves, because even Lincoln felt that Northerners would cease fighting if that was the declared goal. It wasn't until half way through the war that he felt he could do that.

      April 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.!.

      April 17, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
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