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April 19th, 2012
03:05 PM ET

Vatican blasts American nuns, calls for reforms

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - The Vatican is turning up the heat on a group of nuns it says are operating outside of the Roman Catholic Church's doctrines.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, the church’s doctrinal watchdog, on Wednesday announced the conclusion of a years-long “doctrinal assessment” investigation of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, which represents 80% of the Catholic nuns in the United States.

The “assessment reveals serious doctrinal problems,” said the report, which called for major reforms.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith appointed Archbishop Peter Sartain of Seattle to institute those reforms.

The report singled out a Washington, DC social justice group called Network, which is run by nuns and the Resource Center for Religious Institutes, which assists members with financial and legal resources.

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The Vatican report, made public by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, said the doctrinal assessment began in part because of the group’s dissent on the Holy See’s teaching on the ordination of women and human sexuality.  The Catholic Church ordains only men to be priests and says sex is to be reserved for between a man and woman who are married in the eyes of the church.

The assessment said that a Leadership Conference of Women Religious conference yielded “manifest problematic statements and serious theological, even doctrinal errors,” that went unchallenged.   It also said the event promoted “radical feminism”and decried the “prevalence of certain radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith in some programs and presentations sponsored by the LCWR...”

While the assessment praised the social justice work of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, Network and the Resources Center for Religious Life, it said the groups were “silent on the right to life from conception to natural death” and on the Church’s view on “family life and human sexuality.”

The report also took note of public statements from the nuns that opposed the Catholic Bishops. The Leadership Conference of Women Religious and Network vocally disagreed with the Bishops' conference's position on the Affordable Care Act, which they supported and the Bishops did not.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith called the current doctrinal and pastoral positions of the groups “grave and a matter of serious concern,” because of the global influence of the groups.

Pope Benedict XVI approved the request from the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith to intervene and the implementation of their recommended changes, the doctrinal office said in its assessment.

Some of the changes to come include a revision of the LCWR statutes, a review of programs including their annual general assembly, and a review of their ties with Network and Resource Center for Religious Institutes.

Cardinal William Levada, a former Archbishop in the United States and now the Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, said in a statement that the the Vatican process is aimed at “fostering a patient and collaborative renewal of this conference of major superiors in order to provide a stronger doctrinal foundation for its many laudable initiatives and activities.”

The sisters, for their part, expressed surprised at the findings. “Because the leadership of LCWR has the custom of meeting annually with the staff of CDF in Rome and because the conference follows canonically-approved statutes, we were taken by surprise," the Leadership Conference of Women Religious said in a statement.

"This is a moment of great import for religious life and the wider church," the statement continued. "We ask your prayers as we meet with the LCWR National Board within the coming month to review the mandate and prepare a response.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Bishops • Catholic Church • Christianity • Pope Benedict XVI

soundoff (1,705 Responses)
  1. SATAN

    JOIN ME MY FOLLOWERS

    April 20, 2012 at 9:43 am |
  2. Patricksday

    The Pope is knocking over a Hornets nest if he thinks empowered women of God will let him dictate their lives after 50 years of making those choices on their own. I think the Vatican has evaluated all the property values of the Nuns and needs the money from the sale of those properties to help pay for all the Priests who betrayed young Catholics by violating the parents trust for them to care for their children like True followers of Jesus Christ. They failed, and now the Nuns must pay for the sins of the Vatican and the Priests. Good Luck, you forget these women are social justice advocates and have more connections and respect than the Archbishops of America could ever dream of having them self. Go Get them Sisters! We have all had it with out of touch people trying to control the masses with Politics and not Love or Compassion.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:43 am |
  3. hubert39

    The USA should have our own Pope. It's the 21st century.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • crazypete

      Sarah Palin for Pope in 2012!

      April 20, 2012 at 9:52 am |
  4. serdich

    Exodus from the church...enough dead see scrolls, zombies and mummies..grow up.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:42 am |
  5. palintwit

    Sarah Palin is the only one who can heal and re-unify our country. She must return to her motorhome and resume her cross country tour. She will have to visit cities both large and small, speaking only to "real Americans", dispensing her sage advice and folksy, homespun common sense solutions. We can be a great nation again but we must all follow the "Palin Path". In the days , weeks, and months to come, I will elaborate on the "Palin Path" so that everyone has a clear understanding of Sarah Palin's vision for our country.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • noXcuses

      I hope you are being sarcastic???

      April 20, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • Mike

      Stand by for important election year news with Sarah Palin in a special swim suit edition! Coming soon to a network near you!

      April 20, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • Paul

      you are nuts.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:51 am |
    • alex chapman

      What if you don't fit her definition of a "real" American ? You know, the kind that waves the flag but squirms to not pay their fair share of taxes & love war but doesn't want their Grand Kids fighting in them.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:52 am |
    • Jones

      "Real Americans"? Way to unify our country by segregating us. I want no part of any "path" that starts by pitting Americans against each other

      April 20, 2012 at 10:15 am |
  6. LMC

    The catholic church is run by mostly old white men. Of course they are against "uppity" nuns! If the church wants to stay relevant, it needs to come into the modern world.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:39 am |
  7. Brendan from Philladelphia

    The nuns get my support. The absolute authorities are the bishops and Pope who shuffled the pedophiles? You've got to be kidding me!

    April 20, 2012 at 9:38 am |
  8. Spinner49

    God forbid women should have an opinion. No, really God, forbid these women from having an opinion!

    (paraphrased from Pope Benedict)

    April 20, 2012 at 9:37 am |
  9. Steven

    God forbid (no pun intended) people should attempt to do something without the Church's approval!

    April 20, 2012 at 9:33 am |
  10. Primewonk

    For all those claiming that folks have no business questioning the church hierarchy, and should leave the church – A couple points:

    In the US, 98% of all post-pubertal Catholics use or have used birth control. Should all 98% leave the church?

    Also, as far back as Ambrose of Milan, Catholic theologians and leaders claimed that left-handedness was a sign of evil, and associated with Satan. Heck, as recently as the 60's and 70's kids in Catholic schools were "encouraged" [wink wink, nudge nudge] to not write with their left hands. If people who actually had more than 10 functioning neurons had not questioned the Catholic thinking on handedness, we would still be beating kids for holding their fork in the wrong hand.

    The Catholic hierarchy was plain wrong on geocentrism. They killed people who said otherwise. Again if folks with more than 10 functioning neurons hadn't questioned the churche's position, where would we be today?

    April 20, 2012 at 9:06 am |
    • Steven Capsuto

      "In the US, 98% of all post-pubertal Catholics use or have used birth control. Should all 98% leave the church?"

      Arguably yes, for two reasons.

      1) Why remain a member of an organization (of any kind) whose goals or teachings you disagree with? Most of the Catholics I know disagree with the church on more issues than just contraception.

      2) If most Catholics left the church, one of two things would happen: Either church doctrine would change (and followers would return), or the Catholic church's power and influence in the world would evaporate (because what is a church without followers?). Either of those strikes me as a positive outcome.

      This is not "Catholic bashing," as some like to say. This is about judging an organization by its past actions, which is perfectly fair and reasonable to do. The nuns who are being criticized here are on the right track, and it's unclear to me why they feel that remaining "obedient" to the church's misogynist hierarchy is a beautiful, moral or holy thing.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • Ginny

      Thank you for your comments. My sentiments exactly.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • Nora

      You do know that your statistic is a little misguided right? I mean they asked Catholic woman if they have ever taken the pill over the course of their lifetime NOT if they are CURRENTLY taking the pill.

      You're obviously not Catholic or you would know that Catholic women are allowed to take the pill for medical need, only. So many Catholic women have taken it when it was medically necessary but still follow the teachings of the Church.

      Oh and just so you know these "nuns" do not reflect the views of most of the Church. Young Catholic women are running to more traditional orders while the liberal ones are floundering. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/nashville_dominicans_preparing_for_large_postulant_class/

      BTW, I'm a young (27), married woman who was raised by a single mom and I believe 100% in my Church's teachings, the only church founded by God himself.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • Primewonk

      @ Nora – the numbers are from surveys constructed to factor this out. Questions were worded along the lines – and this is a paraphrase – "are you, or have you, used any form of contraception – except NFP – to prevent pregnancy. It didn't ask about using the pill to control periods or acne.

      April 20, 2012 at 10:44 am |
  11. Reality

    Why the Christian Right no longer matters in presidential elections:

    Once again, all the conservative votes in the country "ain't" going to help "pro-life" presidential candidate,
    , Mitt Romney, in 2012 as the "Immoral Majority" rules the country and will be doing so for awhile. The "Immoral Majority" you ask?

    The fastest growing USA voting bloc: In 2008, the 70+ million "Roe vs. Wade mothers and fathers" of aborted womb-babies" whose ranks grow by two million per year i.e. 78+ million "IM" voters in 2012.

    2008 Presidential popular vote results:

    69,456,897 for pro-abortion/choice BO, 59,934,814 for "pro-life" JM.

    And the irony:

    And all because many women fail to take the Pill once a day or men fail to use a condom even though in most cases these men have them in their pockets. (maybe they should be called the "Stupid Majority"?)

    The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions ( one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or condoms properly and/or use other safer birth control methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.

    i.e. IF THE PILL AND MALE CONDOMS WERE USED PROPERLY, ABORTION WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE AND OBAMA WOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      If everyone were reversibly sterilized first, then we could limit the franchise to only those people who can be trusted with a child.
      Many can't and should never be allowed around children, yet such a common sense approach is often viewed as extreme.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:37 am |
    • Reality Bites

      Reversibly sterilized? Come on. You want the government to control who can and cannot breed?

      April 20, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • TAK

      President Obama has been blamed for a lot of things but this one takes the cake. He is now being blamed for improper condom use. I can't wait for Rush, Beck and Romney to run with this one.

      April 20, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • MaryM

      Reality, you tin hat is falling off. take you meds quick before you hurt yourself

      April 20, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • Reality

      Although BO could do a lot more using his "bully-pulpit" to encourage safe-se-x, he of course is not responsible for the ongoing epidemics of abortion and STDs. Stupidity of se-x pract-itioners are the cause as noted below:

      The reality of se-x. contraception and STD control: – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

      Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...

      The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:

      : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

      Added information before making your next move:

      from the CDC-2006

      "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

      And from:

      Consumer Reports, January, 2012

      "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

      Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

      "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

      Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

      The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":

      1a. (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
      1b. (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)

      Followed by:

      One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
      Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
      The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
      Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
      IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)

      Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).

      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      April 20, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
  12. doctore0

    Organized mental illness in progress.. .and human rights suffer because of this

    April 20, 2012 at 5:55 am |
  13. EternalFlame

    You go, girlz!

    April 20, 2012 at 4:12 am |
  14. Bootyfunk

    women:
    the church hates you. they always have. you will NEVER be equal in their eyes. join us Humanists. women are equals in our eyes. why be in a club that doesn't respect you? thinks you're aren't equal to a man?

    this is what the bible says about women preaching:
    1Cor.14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

    35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

    women, have you had premarital s.ex? if so, the bible says you should be killed:
    Deuteronomy 22:13-21 – "If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's v.irginity unto the elders of the city in the gate…. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; and they shall amerse him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he has brought up an evil name upon a v.irgin of Israel; and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. But if this thing be true, and the tokens of v.irginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she has wrought folly in Israel, to play the w.hore in her father's house…."

    why be part of that?

    April 20, 2012 at 2:06 am |
    • Ting

      It baffles me that any woman would want to be part of the Bible club. The Bible was written by men for men.

      April 20, 2012 at 3:19 am |
    • Faithful

      The OLD Testament was written describing God's Covenent with the Jews. The people disobeyed God and were chastised in ways they practised culturally and understood. Then God made a second covenant which didn't replace the first, but enriched it with the life of His Son, Jesus Christ.
      Jesus protected the WOMAN taken in adultery when she was due to be stoned to death by MEN."Let HE who is without sin cast the first stone"
      When Jesus went to Lazarus' house and brought him back to life, Jesus insisted on Martha – the working SISTER, joining Him for the feast.
      Jesus worked His first miracle at the wedding at Cana because His Mother a WOMAN asked Him to – even though "His hour was not yet come"
      You need to read both to understand God's plan.

      These women take a vow of obedience. If they can't keep it – they should get out and stop giving bad example.

      April 20, 2012 at 3:36 am |
    • *facepalm*

      If god had different laws for different people at different times, he's a moral relativist, making it up as he goes along.

      Can you think of ANY way in which stoning an adulteress or a disobedient child or owning sex slaves would actually BE moral? Your god is evil. In what context could this possibly ok? Why wouldn't god just say – hey, don't own sex slaves, that ain't cool?

      Hint: he doesn't say that because he doesn't exist – those laws were made up by men to impose a rudimentary system of law and order on other men.

      April 20, 2012 at 3:44 am |
    • Ting

      Jesus protected the WOMAN taken in adultery when she was due to be stoned to death by MEN."Let HE who is without sin cast the first stone"

      Yes that's great except that Jesus never said it. That parable wasn't in the earlier versions of the New Testament. It was added about 1000 years after Jesus died. In fact, there's no proof that Jesus said anything that is written in the Bible. Jesus was illiterate and so were his disciples. No one during Jesus' time wrote down anything he said.

      April 20, 2012 at 4:44 am |
    • Jim

      Please quote your source just because you say its so doesnt make it so.

      And Bootyfunk breath your grasping at straws man , way to take scripture out of context, Atheists understanding of theology has always perplexed me.

      April 20, 2012 at 5:32 am |
    • HellBent

      Jim – typical xtian response when confronted with either a clearly immoral or obviously contradictory quote – either you took it out of context, or you don't understand the meaning of the original language, or your taking it literally when it should be symbolically, or your taking it symbolically when it should be literal.

      The funny thing is, xtians do this to each other all the time. For the 'inspired' word of god, it's sure is underwhelming. You'd think an omnipotent deity would be able to be a little bit clearer.

      BTW – studies have shown that atheists, on average, have a better understanding both of the bible and various denominations' theology than xtians.

      April 20, 2012 at 5:53 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      come on... took it out of context? how so? that's the excuse thrown out every time we point out some inhumane act or att.itude in the bible. i did not take anything out of context. explain to me how that passage does not say to kill non-virgin brides? and don't give me some hoity-toity explaination - straight out, how is that not completely terrible?

      April 20, 2012 at 6:32 am |
    • Ha

      They will only say the NT magically erases anything they can't explain in the OT or anything they don't like in any of it.
      They are trained liars who can't even lie very well because they lie to themselves and can't keep their lies straight.

      April 20, 2012 at 7:54 am |
    • Primewonk

      @ Faithful – Your Jesus clearly states that the OT rules and laws are to be in effect until "heaven and earth pass away". As far as I can tell, earth is still here. Thus all the sick twisted schizophrenic rules of your god need to be followed.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:42 am |
  15. Just a thought

    Americans have such an adolescent view on everything. Did any of you stop to think about the fact the Catholic Church has seen the rise and fall of many great nations and empires i.e. the Romans (being a big one)? The Church will be here long after America is nothing but a history lesson. They are a religion, it's not a republic, you don't get a vote. If the Pope says something that's the end of the discussion. If you don't like it...then don't be a Catholic, but don't bash them for following their own rules. These nuns took an oath and they are breaking it; it's that simple. I don't happen to agree with Islamic or Buddhist dogma, but I'm not going to attack them for following their beliefs.

    April 20, 2012 at 1:37 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      don't bash them for their own rules? wrong. if they're rules are prejudiced, they get blasted. act like jerks, get treated like jerks. if they're rules said black people couldn't be priests, you'd be okay with that?

      "The Church will be here long after America is nothing but a history lesson."
      sure they will. that's what all religions think. oh wait, i said "religion" and "think" in the same sentence. oops...

      April 20, 2012 at 2:00 am |
    • *facepalm*

      When you kill people that don't agree with you for a few hundred years, its easy to build consensus.

      Also, that Roman Empire that the church survived the fall of was the only reason the church got so big in the first place.

      Don't bash the church for it's rules? So the Crusades were a good thing? Do you also support restricting the statute of limitations for victims of se.xual abuse so that those who are too psychologically scarred to tell authorities of their abuse quickly aren't able to see justice?

      April 20, 2012 at 3:22 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      don't bash the KKK (also a christian organization) - they're a club with their own rules. derp! act like a d-bag, you're gonna get bashed.

      April 20, 2012 at 3:36 am |
    • Faithful

      Bootyfunk – by the same token, using YOUR reasoning, the Abortion law could be overturned because, unlike the Catholic Faith – IT was formed on a basis of lies and misinformation.

      I've been a practising Catholic all my life and I've met only half a dozen women who thought MAYBE there could be women priests! This bunch of nuns are obviously getting above themselves. The rule is the rule. If they don't like it – they leave.

      And why make the smokescreen of bringing black people into the discussion? It's irrelevant to this discussion [unless you're desperate to make a point!]

      April 20, 2012 at 3:45 am |
    • *facepalm*

      " If they don't like it – they leave."

      And people are – in droves. About a third of Americans raised Catholic no longer consider themselves as such currently. Hopefully more people realize how morally bankrupt the church has become.

      April 20, 2012 at 4:06 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      "Bootyfunk – by the same token, using YOUR reasoning, the Abortion law could be overturned because, unlike the Catholic Faith – IT was formed on a basis of lies and misinformation."
      - what? are you crazy? your premise is false. the abortion law was formed on good information and science. don't start in with the religious propaganda, it won't help your case, which is already fail.

      "I've been a practising Catholic all my life and I've met only half a dozen women who thought MAYBE there could be women priests! This bunch of nuns are obviously getting above themselves. The rule is the rule. If they don't like it – they leave."
      - lol. that's a point for your side? because the women in your cult are brain-washed into believing they aren't equal so don't ever aspire to be leaders within the religion? that's a point for your side? they don't think they're worthy because they're told their whole lives they aren't equal to men.

      "And why make the smokescreen of bringing black people into the discussion? It's irrelevant to this discussion [unless you're desperate to make a point!]"
      - wrong, it's relevant. my point is just because you're in a club doesn't mean you won't have your feet held to the fire for prejudicial views. you can't use that "this is our club" excuse. if you have rules that promote inequality, your clubs sux and i'm gonna let you know. don't like it? too bad. freedom of speech and all...

      April 20, 2012 at 6:40 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      "Bootyfunk – by the same token, using YOUR reasoning, the Abortion law could be overturned because, unlike the Catholic Faith – IT was formed on a basis of lies and misinformation."
      - what? are you crazy? your premise is false. the abortion law was formed on good information and science. don't start in with the religious propaganda, it won't help your case, which is already fail.

      "I've been a practising Catholic all my life and I've met only half a dozen women who thought MAYBE there could be women priests! This bunch of nuns are obviously getting above themselves. The rule is the rule. If they don't like it – they leave."
      - lol. that's a point for your side? because the women in your cult are brain-washed into believing they aren't equal so don't ever a.spire to be leaders within their own religion? that's a point for your side? they don't think they're worthy because they're told their whole lives they aren't equal to men.

      "And why make the smokescreen of bringing black people into the discussion? It's irrelevant to this discussion [unless you're desperate to make a point!]"
      - wrong, it's relevant. my point is just because you're in a club doesn't mean you won't have your feet held to the fire for prejudicial views. you can't use that "this is our club" excuse. if you have rules that promote inequality, your clubs sucks and i'm gonna let you know. don't like it? too bad. freedom of speech and all...

      April 20, 2012 at 6:42 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      i apologize for the double post. not sure how that happened.

      April 20, 2012 at 6:43 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      Good thing you apologized. Otherwise we'd have to burn you at the stake or something. Really, a double post?
      What were you thinking? OMFG! 😯

      April 20, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • MaryM

      In this age of information in a instant, the church will evolve or die. period

      April 20, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Mike

      Excellent point and one that will be ignored by the adolescents that you have referred to. 🙂

      April 20, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  16. HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN

    CASE CLOSED!

    April 20, 2012 at 1:35 am |
    • Faithful

      He CALLED himself a Christian – different thing! Icould call myself Kate Middleton, but it wouldn't make me tall, slim, beautiful and married to Prince William!

      Grow up, please. Mother Teresa was a Catholic; Pope John paul II was a Catholic and how many people do YOU know woud be taken for a 5 minute courtesy visit to a leper colony and REFUSE to leave until he had hugged and kissed the foreheads ALL 178 lepers with no fear at all. Because he loved them as His brothers and sisters in Christ?

      April 20, 2012 at 3:53 am |
    • *facepalm*

      @Faithful – please google 'No True Scottsman Fallacy'. Who are you to determine who is a xtian or not? Where do you draw the line? Hitler mentions his beliefs multiple times in both his writings and his speeches. You cannot deny that his religion was an influence.

      April 20, 2012 at 4:03 am |
    • just sayin

      You cannot use the words of a liar to prove anything. Hitler was a liar and an atheist. God bless

      April 20, 2012 at 7:54 am |
    • Zog, Caveman Extraordinaire

      If you don't like liars than don't be one.
      Made up fairy tales are lies.
      Have you checked which Bible passages are really true facts and which are not?
      I didn't think so.

      April 20, 2012 at 8:42 am |
    • just sayin

      Yes have you? God bless

      April 20, 2012 at 9:02 am |
  17. I Was Born Hard

    The vatican is an eyesore. I really wish they'd bulldoze that thing.

    April 20, 2012 at 1:19 am |
  18. AlfredG

    See what happens when a German ex-Nazi gets elected Pope?

    April 20, 2012 at 1:06 am |
    • Faithful

      The Holy Father was 10 when the war started and only 15 when it ended! What was your point again?

      April 20, 2012 at 3:55 am |
    • Mirosal

      And just WHAT makes that guy so "holy"? He wasn't "chosen by god". He was ELECTED from among his peers!!! Pure politics, nothing more, nothing less

      April 20, 2012 at 5:01 am |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    April 20, 2012 at 12:11 am |
    • RWESTUPID

      You are a MORON!!!

      April 20, 2012 at 9:55 am |
  20. Colin

    Schism time. Stand up for yourselves and split with Rome.

    April 19, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • Quick

      I think they're all busy looking at p.orn. Sorry.

      April 20, 2012 at 12:09 am |
    • Mirosal

      I don't think a split is needed. Just make the funny-hat wearing, supposedly "celibate" old men pay taxes worldwide on all their properties, and "po-of".. the Vatican goes bankrupt, the church would be no more, then do the same to the other religions. When they go bankrupt, no more church. It really IS all about the Benjamins. Let's see their "god" give them a bail-out.

      April 20, 2012 at 4:42 am |
    • HellBent

      Given the catholic attrition in this country, with time the catholic church won't be much more than a side note. Immigration can't sustain catholic numbers forever.

      April 20, 2012 at 5:57 am |
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