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America’s ‘angriest’ theologian faces lynching tree
A crowd gathers in Marion, Indiana, in 1930 to witness a lynching. This photograph inspired the poem and song “Strange Fruit.”
April 21st, 2012
10:00 PM ET

America’s ‘angriest’ theologian faces lynching tree

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - When he was boy growing up in rural Arkansas, James Cone would often stand at his window at night, looking for a sign that his father was still alive.

Cone had reason to worry. He lived in a small, segregated town in the age of Jim Crow. And his father, Charlie Cone, was a marked man.

Charlie Cone wouldn’t answer to any white man who called him “boy.” He only worked for himself, he told his sons, because a black man couldn’t work for a white man and keep his manhood at the same time.

Once, when he was warned that a lynch mob was coming to run him out of his home, he grabbed a shotgun and waited, saying, “Let them come, because some of them will die with me.”

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James Cone knew the risks his father took. So when his father didn’t come home at his usual time in the evenings, he’d stand sentry, looking for the lights from his father’s pickup truck.

“I had heard too much about white people killing black people,” Cone recalled. “When my father would finally make it home safely, I would run and jump into his arms, happy as I could be.”

Cone takes on a theological giant

Cone left his hometown of Bearden, Arkansas, and became one of the world’s most influential theologians. But the memories of his father and lynch mobs never left him. Those memories shaped his controversial theology, and they saturate his recent memoir, “The Cross and the Lynching Tree.”

Cone, who once called himself “the angriest theologian in America,” is still angry. His book is not just a memoir of growing up in the Jim Crow era; it’s a blistering takedown of white churches, and one of America’s greatest theologians, Reinhold Niebuhr - a colossal figure often cited by the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Today, Niebuhr’s importance is acknowledged by both liberal and conservative Christian leaders. President Obama once called him one of his favorite philosophers. Niebuhr, the author of classics such as “The Irony of American History,” died in 1971 after a lifetime of political activism.

Cone, however, said neither Niebuhr nor any other famous white pastor at the time spoke out against the most brutal manifestation of white racism in the 20th century America: lynching.

Between 1880 and 1940, Cone says, an estimated 5,000 black men and women were lynched. Their murders were often treated as festive affairs. Women and children cut off the ears of lynching victims as souvenirs. People mailed postcards of lynchings. One postcard of a charred lynching victim read, “This is the barbeque we had last night.”

But Niebuhr said nothing about lynching, little about segregation, and once turned down King’s request to sign a petition calling on the president to protect black children integrating Southern schools, Cone said.

Niebuhr’s decision not to speak out against lynching encouraged other white theologians and ministers to follow suit, Cone said, because Niebuhr was considered the nation’s greatest theologian.

“White theologians didn’t say anything about lynching,” Cone said from his office at Union Theological Seminary in New York, where he teaches a course on Niebuhr. “I tried to find a white theologian who addressed it in a sustained way. No one did it.”

Cone’s criticism of Niebuhr baffles at least one well-known Niebuhr scholar. Charles Lemert, author of “Why Niebuhr Matters,” said King often cited Niebuhr as an inspiration. He said he’d never heard that Niebuhr rejected a petition request from King. “It would be so remote from everything the man was.”

Lemert said Niebuhr had established a long record of speaking out against racism, beginning when he became a pastor in Detroit. Niebuhr may not have spoken out against lynching and other forms of racism later on because of another reason, Lemert said.

“He had a debilitating stroke in 1951,” Lemert said. “By the time the civil rights movement was full blown, he was retired and getting ill.”

Why Cone is angry

Cone has spent much of his career condemning the white church for saying little about slavery or racial justice. Yet his pugnacious reputation doesn’t jibe with his appearance. He is a slight man with a boyish face, cinnamon complexion and dimples. He has a high-pitched voice that drips with the Southern inflections of his native Arkansas.

Cone first gained attention in 1969 with the release of “Black Theology and Black Power,” a book he wrote after urban race riots and King’s assassination.

That book took theology out of academia and placed it on the still-smoldering streets. He became known as the father of “black liberation theology.” He said God was black (he meant it figuratively) because God was closest to those who were oppressed and despised - black people in America.

Cone said his passion for justice comes from growing up in the black church.

Cone blended the racial pride of the black power movement with an emphasis on social justice that had been a part of the black church since enslaved Africans first read the Bible. Jesus' primary message, he said, wasn't about getting people to heaven, but liberating people here and now from oppression - racial, economic and spiritual.

Cone said he was tired of white theologians writing about an otherworldly theology while cities burned and blacks were murdered by racists.

“I felt like I was the angriest black theologian in America,” he once wrote in his book “Risks of Faith.” “I had to speak out.”

Cone inspired some and angered others.

Critics say he developed a divisive, racist theology that describes God as black and whites as evil. They say he’s stuck in the '60s and never abandoned the bitterness of growing up in segregation.

Supporters say Cone exposed the hypocrisy of white churches and gave voice to helpless, poor and oppressed Christians in places as far away as China and Latin America.

The Rev. James Ellis III, an author who has been both critical and supportive of Cone, says before Cone, theology was interpreted through a white male perspective.

Cone has inspired not only blacks but also women and other racial minorities to enter seminaries and the pulpit, he says.

“Whether you agree with Cone or not, he’s definitely someone you need to deal with,” said Ellis, author of “OnThaGrindCuzin: The School Daze of Being ‘Incognegro’ in 1619.”

“He takes the gloves off and gets down to the nitty-gritty.”

Jonathan Walton, an assistant professor of African American Religious Studies at Harvard University, said listening to Cone is like “listening to a Hebrew prophet.”

For many people, Walton says, Cone “exposed that the God that they were worshiping was more consistent with the Pharaoh in Egypt than the Hebrew children.”

Cone said people still misunderstand his theology. He said he does not believe that whites are more sinful than others.

“God made us all as brothers and sisters,” he said. “I’m mad when people don’t treat others as brothers and sisters. I’m concerned about the suffering of all people, not just black people. If anybody is being treated unjustly, I’m with them.”

Singing about the ‘Hoochie Coochie Man’

Cone said his passion for justice comes from growing up in the black church. In his recent memoir, he describes how blacks relied on music and faith to deal with the cruelty of segregation.

On Saturday nights, he said, blacks in his hometown would go to juke joints with names like Sam’s Place to hear blues songs like “Hoochie Coochie Man.” On Sunday mornings, some of the same people would go to church to sing spirituals like “Lord, I Want to be a Christian in My Heart.”

Church comforted Cone, but it also made him ask questions.

“My thing was, if the white churches are Christian, how come they segregate us? And if God is God, why is He letting us suffer?”

The cross, he said, helped him find some answers. He said many white Christians “spiritualize” the cross, seeing it as a penalty Jesus had to pay for mankind’s sins.

But black Christians, starting with the slaves who took up the Bible, also viewed the cross as a way to cope with suffering.

Blacks looking at the images of lynching victims took heart from Jesus’ suffering on the cross and his resurrection, Cone said.

He writes:

“Black Christians believed that just knowing that Jesus went through an experience of suffering in a manner similar to theirs gave them faith that God was with them, even in suffering on lynching trees just as God was present with Jesus in suffering on the cross.”

Cone also talked about his personal suffering in his memoir.

He writes about his wife, Sandra, who died of cancer in 1983. He saw her on the night she died. He said they were joking and laughing as she chided him for not leaving her hospital room to get rest.

He finally did leave, but she died at 3 that morning. Thinking about the cross helped him grieve, he said.

“God talked me through that,” he said, his voice softening. “You look suffering right in you eye and say, ‘You may get me, but you’re not going to have the last word.’ ”

Cone also talks about his parents, Charlie and Lucy, who inspired him and his two brothers. Charlie was a woodcutter who encouraged his wife to return to school, where she eventually earned a college degree.

“I didn’t grow up with a lot of fear,” he said. “I just thought my mother and father would protect me.”

One of Cone’s fears today, though, is that the contemporary black church is losing its distinctive theology. He said there’s less talk about justice and more talk about prosperity.

“You go to almost any black church today, and you don’t hear spirituals anymore,” he said. “What you hear is this happy, ‘I’m prosperous’ kind of stuff. I’m not for that. You don’t come to church to be entertained. You come to wrestle with your spirit.”

Cone may still be angry, but he’s also mellowed. He’s tempered some of the voltage from the language he used in his earlier books. And he’s accepted criticism from some black women theologians who said he didn’t include the perspective of black women in his works.

Yet thoughts of his childhood and his parents never seem far off. In his books and lectures, he returns once again to them, especially when people compliment him for his boldness. In one essay, Cone wrote:

“At most, what I say and do are just dim reflections of what my parents taught and lived.”

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Bible • Black issues • Books • Christianity • Church • Crime • Culture wars • Persecution • Prejudice • Race

soundoff (2,563 Responses)
  1. Bob

    If we want to know why America must fail, read the next 2000 comments.

    April 29, 2012 at 10:54 am |
  2. John Savard

    The message does need to get out, loud and clear, that God cares about the poor and humble as much as anyone else. And black people suffered terrible things, not only under slavery, but under segregation which followed it.

    The sad thing is, though, that civilization has not been hindered from progressing by these bygone events. Today, Muslims in some of their countries discriminate against non-Muslims in ways that are reminiscent of segregation, and this contributes to a psychology that enables terrorism.

    It's America that sent men to the Moon, it's the Western world that is the engine of technological progress – and, hence, human survival. So other people won't be able to get away with making the same mistakes that our ancestors did.

    April 28, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  3. WOT

    99% of those people in that picture are dead!! Hitler lived in America too!

    April 27, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • cigarlover

      and they left their legacy and ideology 50% of them

      April 29, 2012 at 4:37 am |
  4. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    I really have to laugh when rightwing conservatives in this country say Obama is playing the race card and dividing America! Really? When Obama was campaigning for the presidency, members of the rightwing leadership in congress and their base said openly and without restraint that a black man should not be allowed to be president of the United States of America! This despite the fact that African-Americans enslaved for four hundred years, helping to build this country from the ground up! And despite the fact that African-Americans paid a costly price for their freedom decades after the emancipation proclamation and during the Jim Crow era, being exposed to lynchings, segragation and all sotrs of widespread oppression and atrocities by the white society!

    During the 2008 presidential election, supporters of John McCain went to his rallies and said all sorts of outrageous things about candidate Obam and some said "shoot him." And on that historic election night in 2008 where the entire world welcome the dawning of a new era in America as America elected its first African-American President, a historic black church in Massachussets was burnt to the ground in retaliation of America electing President Obama! And since the election of President Obama, all over this country conservatives have been displaying all sorts of degoratory and divisive bumper stickers, calling for the assassination of our President! And when they're not displaying such bumber stickers, they're setting up blogs threatening the President and his family! Remember Ted Nugent or the likes of Rush Limbaugh? Two years ago, Tea Party express leader said the emancipation proclamation was a mistake and blacks were just looking for big screen TV's and handouts! No, President Obama is not the one dividing America! Its you rightwing conservative un-American racists who are dividing and destroying America! For you people who still haven't overcome the fact that a black man and woman are in the white house, I like to say get used to it because the freedom of African-Americans came the old fashion way! We earned it!

    April 27, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • carrs_nhs

      You wrote, "members of the rightwing leadership in congress and their base said openly and without restraint that a black man should not be allowed to be president of the United States of America!" You sound angry and misguided. You cannot name a single member of congress who said what you claim. You should also know that Obama would not have been elected without the 'white' voters. He was fairly elected, based on his campaign of "Hope and Change". Now, based on his record, I expect he will not be reelected. Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

      April 27, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • LOL

      they weren't saying anything about white people voting for Obama.. they are talking about the right wing nut jobs out here spitting their hate of anyone that doesn't have the same color skin as they do. They are talking about the openly racist things people and even our military says about our President. Obama is the most disrespected president in history. All this hate should have been turn towards Bush..HES THE ONE THAT RUINED THIS COUNTRY and Obama came into h e l l and is trying to clean up with every opposition possible by the repugs. Come on! You all will NOT give him a chance to try and do right by the poor/middle class American people. He has captured Bin Laden.. something Bush gave up on after he had over 3000 Americans killed. I don't even feel like going on.. we all know Bush was the worst president.. EVER.. so don't blame Obama for the way this country is.. blame the ones at fault.. Bush for putting us their and the REPUGS for keeping us here.

      April 27, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Drew

      I find it humerous when people keep giving Obama the credit for capturing Bin Laden if the president fulfilled one of his promises from his campaign guantanamo bay would/should have been closed by now and most likely the capture would have never occured. In this instance his failed promise has lead to ONE accomplishment to run on. And as far as Bush goes its been three years are you kidding me with that BS? In no sense was he an awesome president but to still be blaming him is ridiculous at least admit that neither is very good, and that Bush actually backed our allies. Obama has done nothing but spend spend spend and not one dollar has seemed to go to a successful business venture, maybe his campaign us taxpayers are paying for will be his first

      April 27, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      When you graduate from high school, dear, alert the media. You're woefully ignorant.

      April 27, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      My post is directed at Drew the Dim.

      April 27, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
    • Drew

      And as for whites disrespecting blacks i feel that it does occur and is terrible. But i also know and have witnessed that it goes both ways and to even mention it or point fingures in either way to great a division is racist in its own right.

      April 27, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • Drew

      And your post shows your intelect, thanks 🙂

      April 27, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And yours shows YOUR "INTELLECT", you dumb azs.

      April 27, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey, Drew the Dolt, what are "fingures"?

      April 27, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
    • Drew

      Im not about to get into an arguement on the internet but im just amazed at how some people can just name call can't express their opinion or thoughts, just name calling. Real classy and really graduate of you. Im done here

      April 27, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That's the best news I've heard all day, ya moron.

      April 27, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  5. Common Sense

    Can't blame him. You as an individual are a result of your environment. Anyone who says otherwise is stupid or gullible.

    April 26, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • Flamespeak

      I have personally seen too many people in my years on this Earth who came from environments that were total chaos and become stand-up pillars of communities because they recognize that isn't the way they should behave and too many people come from kind and caring environments become what many would call monstrous because that is how they feel they should behave for your argument of 'people are a product of the enviorment' to hold any truth to me any more.

      April 27, 2012 at 3:31 am |
  6. Keith

    Don't worry. Obama has ordered plenty of ammo to stop the situation after it gets out of hand:
    Maj. Gen. Buford C. Blount III, given in 2004 before the Tactical Air and Land Forces Subcommittee of the Committee on Armed Services of the House of Representatives. You can read this testimony yourself at this government website:
    http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/security/has176250.000/has176250...

    This testimony reveals that:

    • In active battle operations in Iraq, ammunition is expended at the rate of 5.5 million rounds per month.

    That's 66 million rounds in a year. The General's testimony states that the "past year" in Iraq "resulted in the expenditure of 72 million rounds," which isn't too far off from 66 million. I'll use 70 million as a rough figure for annual ammo usage in an active war zone.

    This is 70 million rounds of all types, including rifle rounds such as 5.56, .308, .50, etc. Pistol rounds most likely include 9mm (the common NATO round) and .45. There isn't much .40 pistol ammo used by soldiers serving overseas, by the way. That round is only popular in the United States. For example, several cops I know prefer to carry the .40 instead of a 9mm. They feel it "stops bad guys" more quickly, meaning it causes more skeletal and tissue damage upon impact.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035649_DHS_ammunition_domestic_war.html#ixzz1tCGgmYHq
    Homeland Security ordered 450 million rounds of .40 cal. hollowpoints. I guess the Coast Guard is larger than the other forces combined. Wake up people.

    April 26, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
    • reader

      Grow up!!! Stupid conspiracy theories just make people come across as idiots. If you do not like/trust/etc. the President admit you are afraid of having a black President and be honest with yourself. If you compare his policies with previous Presidents you will see he has supported centrist policies. Sleep easy and for your sake stop fretting over having 'a scary black man' as leader of the free world.

      April 27, 2012 at 12:48 am |
    • Keith

      Dude, I don't care if he's white, black, yellow, purple, green or polka dot...Why is it that if someone questions or disagrees with anything this President does, you are labeled automatically as a bigot??? Play the race card-a coward's way out. I don't care if W. was still in office, if it happend under his watch, I'd still ask the same questions. Bringing the issue of color up is weak and lame. Please, don't you think it's time you grow up and enter the 21st century? Btw, isn't the President's mother white? So doesn't that make him just as much a white man as black?

      April 27, 2012 at 7:13 am |
    • Keith

      What conspiracy? Did DHS get a contract for 450 million rounds of ammo or not?

      April 27, 2012 at 8:15 am |
    • Ol' Yeller

      @Keith
      Dude (really?), How come peop/e who come to Obama's rallies and heckle him (one guy sat through one in a KKK outfit) or show threatening behaviors... remember the guy who showed up with the machine gun slung over his shoulder (it was an open carry state)... do not get arrested or kicked out as long they do not cross the line? However, the couple who showed up at the bush rally with the Buck Fush T-shirts on were immediately arrested. You should really probably save your ingnorant conspiracy theories for your friends over at fox...

      April 27, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Keef isn't the sharpest bulb in the closet.

      April 27, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
  7. Muneef

    Now the blacks of this generation are the Muslims...!

    April 25, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Sorry ..the Gays and Lesbians already claimed that ti'tle.

      April 26, 2012 at 1:11 am |
    • Chris

      Blacks never blew anyone up in the name of God. They never crashed planes into buildings. They didn't behead people. And muslims are not lynched nor segregated. If I were black, I would be a little offended at that suggestion. Same for Gay people. They can't legally marry in most states. Big deal. That doesn't compare to segregation or lynchings. Too many whiners nowadays.

      April 26, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Muneef

      I withdraw my comment although you should know not all Muslims are vilont but there are terrorists who are using Islam as undercover for their crimes against Humenity...

      April 27, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
  8. Keith

    Now cnn is going to do a show on "the beating of Rodney King". Are you kidding me? The irresponsible editors at cnn should be held accountable and charged with inciting violence and murder and mayhem when it happens. Innocent people will die because of cnn, obama, maxine waters and jesse jackson, louis farrakan and company. But I'm sure all their loved ones will be spared-the common man on the street will not. Shame on all of them. They are willing to make martyrs out of the 99% if it achieves the desired end.

    April 24, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • AJ

      I am black and I am not afraid of you or anyone else.

      April 25, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • Keith

      AJ, perhaps you misunderstand what I'm saying. I don't want you to fear me or anyone else for that matter. cnn is stirring the pot-trying to get violent riots started in this country. Those listed are also helping by pouring fuel on this fire. Fire can't burn if you REMOVE the fuel. The comments made by the President and cnn and others only add fuel to it. It's gonna be one hell of a fire-just like the President and cnn want.

      April 25, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • Keith

      AJ, Mat 5:9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
      Based upon the President's comments, Maxine Waters' comments, this article by cnn, the Rodney King beating show coming up on cnn, etc...do any of the qualify as peacemakers?

      April 25, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • rjp34652

      Agreed sir and well said.

      CNN is the single greatest purveyor of racist bigotry and hatred in the nation. Pretending to be only journalistic in nature, CNN actually uses their rhetoric and forums to inflame racial hatred – unjustly I might add.

      Many of the issues today are either history (as in the current story), or deeply involved in litigation (as in the Zimmerman case). In neither case is it justifiable for CNN to continually publish articles to incite violence. They do so, and then claiming innocence they stand back and use the trouble they've created to justify further racist 'coverage'.

      Jesus said that the peacemakers would be called the children of God. Since CNN adds verbal gasoline to racial discord what does that make them but sons of satan.

      Damn you CNN. Damn you to hell.

      April 25, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Ann Lee

      Hello all,

      I believe that history should not be buried. We as human beings need to know our history. When I was growing up, I heard the stories of my 3rd great grandmother, Mariah. Mariah was born a slave, witnessed the brutality of slavery, fought the KKK and worked as a servant to Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

      My mother asked to me research our history. After my mother passed, with grief, I fulfilled my promise to her. Well, after 7 years of research, I verified all of the stories. One of the most amazing stories was that Mariah said that Jefferson Davis regretted owning slaves, and learned to love and respect Black people. Years before he died, she said that he did not hold the beliefs ot the "inferior Black."

      To make a long story short, dialogue and revisiting our history, America's history, people of all colors can unite in knowing and confronting our history.

      Please read my free EBook "Human Property Hanging in the Family Tree Yields a Harvest,"
      ( free today only) at Amazon Kindle Edition http://www.amazon.com/Property-Hanging-Family-Harvest-ebook/dp/B00727LLKC/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1329162632&sr=1-1-spell

      Thank you,

      April 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • KG

      "Now CNN is going to do a show on "the beating of Rodney King". Are you kidding me? The irresponsible editors at CNN should be held accountable and charged with inciting violence and murder and mayhem when it happens."

      Being a reasonable white man, which I believe myself to be, I'd say that the cops that beat Rodney King, like they did on camera, were the ones that incited violence. CNN, doing a story on the beating, is merely reporting on an historic event where violence was incited by irresponsible and out of control police. Unfortunately, there are far too many people, like you Keith, that think we should not explore the ugly side of America. You say that you believe this kind of exposure will cause more problems. But what I think, is that people, like yourself, Keith, want to believe we live in some kind of "Leave It to Beaver" world. Well, we don't. We live in a world with hate and violence. Sticking your head in the sand and hoping it will go away, if news outlets or history books don't discuss it, is how fascism starts to take hold of a country.

      April 25, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • WASP

      i say if the ugly part of american history is to be shown, then let's also show the beating of reggie denny. a truck driver that nothing to do with rodney king. did he deserve to be profiled for being white and beaten in the L.A. riots? if you're saying show the ugly side then let's show it all, not half of it.

      April 26, 2012 at 6:20 am |
    • Paleoconservative

      To Ann Lee,

      Abraham Lincoln believed in the inferiority of blacks. Did you know that?

      April 27, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
  9. Marcus P Squeezum

    In the end God will prevail, God will win and God will pass his judgement.

    April 24, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • JohnQuest

      In the mean time all the horrible things man does to man is permissible? Or should we fight against these horrors?

      April 24, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • AtheismIsCrap

      John..The most horrendous thing you could see is the one in front of you when are facing the mirror.

      April 24, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • momoya

      You think god smiles on decisions and words like yours, a?

      April 24, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
    • KG

      AtheismIsCrap

      John..The most horrendous thing you could see is the one in front of you when are facing the mirror.

      April 24, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
      So I guess what you're saying is that God's creation, YOU, is horrendous? How is it possible for something that is all powerfull, all knowing, PERFECT, and able to see into the future, to create something "horrendous"?

      April 25, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • Ms. Brooks

      "God will pass Her judgement."

      April 27, 2012 at 12:07 am |
    • danielwalldammit

      And thus are we resolved of responsibility to one another,

      April 28, 2012 at 2:17 am |
  10. Jorge

    WOW, Indiana must have been an incredibly backward, stifling, unbearable place to live in during the 1930's if you had any semblance of urbanity, true education or culture.

    April 24, 2012 at 9:05 am |
  11. Marc

    Really? No warning? You wanted people to open the article to witness the degrading image of two murdered black men? This is disgusting! How about a sensitive material warning?

    April 24, 2012 at 7:37 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      This is the Belief Blog. They use unflattering pictures of folks they hate and any images that will further their cause. With the election in less than a year trust that the memo will go out from CNN to do more stories like this that will keep Black Dems in line and to solidify White Guilt.

      April 24, 2012 at 9:54 am |
    • Taiping

      If there was ever a more clear indication that Mark is supportive of hanging black people it would be his post here.

      He's defending the people in the picture because he knows they are ignorant right-wing conservative racist Christians, just like him.

      So tell us, Mark, why is it a guy who says he's a Black Republican would defend a white supremacist lynching party?

      I'm all ears and eyes here unless you're going to do your usual lame attempts at obfuscation. That crap don't fly with me.

      April 24, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • Hey

      Man on left looks white to me.

      April 24, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Hi Taiping. You made a few massive leaps there but I will see if I can help you. Its called “pandering” and all parties do such. In fact NPR had a segment on the subject yesterday and their focus was on how the politicians pander towards the Hispanic population only during election time and all they wish to talk about is the subject of immigration. The commentator stated that a growing number of Hispanics are feeling insulted that when election time comes around politicians believe that the only thing that Hispanics want to talk about is immigration.

      I feel that CNN is noticing that the African American community, while the majority are Democrats, they are seeing the signs that the turn out in the Black community will not be as high as it was for the first election. With CNN reporting that the race is tighter than they hoped they will be doing this type of “fear” pandering to people. This article, I feel does that. Did you see it during Black History month or even when MLKs birthday, signing of the Civil Rights bill, signing of the Emancipation anniversary?

      I see that you are all ears and I hope that your eyes remain open but I want you to show me where I:

      “He's defending the people in the picture “

      My issue is with CNN clearly but I am now all ears(eyes) , to read where I said that. If you can not show it or choose to be silent or even hurl a few swear words it will show who is really full of crap.

      Best you can do is say that you didn't see where I said that and you simply interpreted me wrong.

      April 24, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • Taiping

      "unflattering pictures of people they hate" – meaning Republicans. And you are a card-carrying member of that low-down collection of ignorant, racist, extremist traitors, so I naturally thought you are trying to defend the members of that lynching party – friends of yours, no doubt.

      You hate that CNN is showing that "unflattering" picture because it does not "flatter" your GOP who is made up of the exact same sort of people doing the same damn things even after all this time. Your GOP is stuck in the past and have never gotten over the fact they lost the damn war and have been fighting to destroy any rights for blacks or other minorities ever since.

      You don't want your racist Republican friends to be "inconvenienced" by this "unflattering" picture showing the hate those racists had back then and still have now.

      Maybe if you were chased by a lynching party you'd feel differently about being a "card-carrying Republican" and, instead of gloating over it like it's some sort of victory, you'd realize that you have made common cause with the enemies of blacks, minorities, the poor.
      You have made common cause and have joined with the very people who treated, and many still do this, "non-whites" as horribly and sadistically as possible.

      Hey, it's not MY problem if you join Al Qaeda, the KKK, and the Nazi Party. That's YOUR problem.

      I'M just pointing it out because I don't like you and want to rub it in your racist little face. Don't like it? Tough.

      You hate the picture. Why? Because it shows your party in a bad light. You talk like it's really a big conspiracy to get Obama re-elected, but he could win this election without spending a single dime. Politicians just skim off those donations anyway.
      You don't know squat about how to treat other people or you'd see that what the Republicans have been doing is clearly wrong-headed and just nasty-evil.
      I'm not saying Democrats are angels, except by comparison. That's how bad you guys are.
      Even corrupt Democrats, and I hate corrupt politicians, and most of them are corrupt, are willing to do what's right to help people, to help America any way they can, and they're willing to fight for Civil Rights, Equal Rights, and they are willing to share their food with the poor, share their money, and they don't care if they came from south of the border, from Africa on slave-ships, or from Asia or any other ethnic-dominated region.

      In short, Republicans are the worst of the worst if you are black, poor, and need some sort of help.

      If you were my kid, I'd never speak to you. I'd just chalk it up to brain damage, brain-washing, and a lack of love for your fellow human beings, and I'd just forget you even existed. That's how much I do not like you. Take it personal. Do.

      April 24, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Ahh.... so much happiness to respond to.

      >>>”And you are a card-carrying member of that low-down collection of ignorant, racist, extremist traitors, so I naturally thought you are trying to defend the members of that lynching party – “

      Ahh... and Democratic senator Byrd was part of what happy party back then? Hatred is not limited to one party. In relation I remember my Grandmother telling me that there are two type of racist. One type they are in your face with their racism. Then you have the ones that want you to believe that your race or gender can not do anything with out help from outside of the group. Think of the MalcolmX movie scene where the White girl ask MalcolmX what can she do as a White person to help the Black community... his response.. “nothing”.

      I am a card carrying Republican because after the time I have been on this Earth I still ask what have the Democrats done recently for the African American community. When I listen to the the Pro-Black radio stations I have heard that the “brother has let us down”. Our unemployment is higher than under GW Bush and other factors are showing that in the past three years our gap is growing wider from other minorities.

      >>>”Your GOP who is made up of the exact same sort of people doing the same damn things even after all this time. Your GOP is stuck in the past and have never gotten over the fact they lost the damn war and have been fighting to destroy any rights for blacks or other minorities ever since.”

      I disagree. Remember good Ole Bill Clinton speaking of President Obama and saying:

      ““A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”

      Now, there is a Democrat …. so stuck in his racist past that to him a Harvard Professor who is Black would have getting him coffee. I can also go into the articles written by black activist that declare that the Democrats using Welfare and Public Assistance caused the destruction of the African American family.

      Try this, who has done more for AIDs research in Africa … Obama or GW Bush?

      Who had more a minority diverse cabinet … Obama or G.W.Bush?

      See, to me and a growing number of African American it is the Democrats that still see a African American community that are so pathetic that they need the great Whites of the Democrats to save “our” poor Black souls.

      ...but, please tell me what Obama and the Dems have done for the African American or Latino community? He had a Democratic controlled Congress for two years ,... TWO YEARS!! … and Obama did nothing.

      Try this one... who pushed and passed the repeal of “Don't Ask Don't Tell”? ..was it the Dems or the Repubs?

      >>>”Maybe if you were chased by a lynching party you'd feel differently about being a "card-carrying Republican"Maybe if you were chased by a lynching party you'd feel differently about being a "card-carrying Republican"”

      Well, I grew up in a mostly White Country community, while most Whites were very nice to me... I did have grade school moments of harassment and 1 on 10 fights. What maybe you should understand is that just like all Whites were not like such … all Republicans are not as well. Your argument and rational is in the same spirit of those that want to declare that all African Americans are Gang Bangers or welfare queens. On that I see no difference between the Racist in America and you.

      >>>”I'M just pointing it out because I don't like you and want to rub it in your racist little face. Don't like it? Tough.”

      … aww you Stereotyping poor soul... you wound me. 🙂

      Ok... here it is. You don't like me and in many ways I don't care. Those feelings of caring when someone says that they do not like me died many many years ago. Your rant was cute but by the time you got to the end...just like most folks such as yourself... you went totally off the rails.

      “If you were my kid, I'd never speak to you. ”

      Wow, listen to yourself you nut. Your own kid... your own flesh and blood you would cut off your relationship just because of his political party. What type of parent are you? In what way are you different from the parents who cut off their child when they come home and declare that they were Gay or Lesbian. Or if they fell in love with with someone of another race? If I had a kid he or she would still be in my life no matter what because they are a part of me. If I am correct, Cheney has a Lesbian daugther and he still maintains a relationship. This puts your parenting skills and love lacking in comparison to him. I find this hilarious that a major Republican still talks to his Gay daughter...but you could not talk to your own child if he or she came home a Republican. Wow!!

      You see, I do not hate CNN. … Ok maybe when they approve articles by Stephen Porthero. ..kidding sorta. I enjoy coming to this Blog but that does not mean that I should be happy with everything they do, should I? That they are manipulating elements in the minority communities... and there are those in the Hispanic and now a growing number in the African American communities have taken notice, it is time to stand up and say that it is wrong.

      It is funny that you wish to declare I have a lack of love for my fellow humans while at the same time if your child does not believe and echo your own views … if your child chooses to follow a different path than you …. you would not speak to them again. How can you make any claims of such to me when you can not love your own child unless he or she is a mirror of you?

      Your, post is being echo in so many closed minded homes tonight. You hate Republicans. Other folks hate other groups , Faiths or people. They go into rants but always in the end their words end up showing others their weaknesses. You are the Bin Ladens, You are the Black Panthers, and you are the Klan. Yall hate. It fills you up and you spew it everywhere but …

      ..there is another way. And that way is to be open, to listen and too accept. There was a statement that Jon Stewart said, on his show, in that you are not the devil, you are not evil … we just disagree. Taiping, I feel that someone has drilled it into your head that to feel that you are fighting the good fight you must hate and despise those who disagree with you. That you would extend that to a child that disagrees with your view, is very scary and just shows everyone how wrapped up folks like you are into taking disagreements to the higher and sadly more dangerous levels. A parent who would not speak to their own flesh and blood offspring because of a view or affiliation is the same type of person that would not have a issue sending a stranger to the gas chambers.

      >>>”That's how much I do not like you. Take it personal. “

      Why should I take it personal. Remember, lone African American kid in a all white school many years ago. I have been told that folks hate me for my color, my weight, and because ones felt my family were rich. Oh yeah, I have dark skin so please check out the CNN story about light skin vs dark skin African Americans. As the song from Hairspray goes … “Cause the world keeps spinning, Round and 'round”

      I will close with the simple plea for you to let that burden of hate fall from you. I won't hate you, we just disagree. If you hoped to find hatred towards you in me, then you have failed. This Blog is/should be used as a place of dialogue but sadly more often it is just used by folks like you to scream and cry “I hate you.. I hate you...” Try to use this place to talk to folks that do not share your views. I have found many Atheist that I would rather drive cross country in a Smart car than a noticeable portion of my fellow members of my own church. I found them the moment the screaming and swearing stopped and the talking began. Might I recommend you try it... what's the alternative?

      April 25, 2012 at 2:39 am |
  12. cj

    Jesus came to seek and save the lost, not to crusade for social justice. He came to give abundant life to all who beieve on him.
    To criticize evangelicals for not preaching against lynching is falaciaous, any evangelical knows that until God changes the heart from within, it is pointless to preach about outward manifestations of good and bad behavior. If someone's soul is awakened by the Holy Spirit, then the transformation that occurs makes it impossible to want to lynch someone. The lynchings that took place were not by true believers that knew Christ.

    April 23, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • mandarax

      Nice how that sort of absolves Christians of any responsibility, isn't it? What a convenient rationalization.

      April 23, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • Reality

      The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
      ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (References used are available upon request.)

      April 24, 2012 at 12:05 am |
    • danielwalldammit

      I wonder if Jesus will be so silent when social justice means no gay marriage? No prayer in public schools? No fault divorce? Or is he only silent when the poor and downtrodden are at stake?

      And if so, could belief in Him then be anything other than an act of malice?

      April 24, 2012 at 12:34 am |
    • Jesse

      So while the ones who were doing the lynching are taking their own sweet time, the ones being lynched should be understanding and keep allowing it....oh ok...that makes sense.

      April 24, 2012 at 9:10 am |
  13. Raksha

    @clueless etc.

    Ohhhhhhh you're sooooooo smart too. Gosh you folks are stupid.......when I hit the reply on my IPAD, I didn't notice that it didn't sense the hit. That's why I said that it didn't take. I guess I have to explain in detail. Okay ?

    April 23, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
  14. Mark from Middle River

    Peace...there is another way.

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1NeogMh1JI&w=640&h=360]

    April 23, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Your post says all anyone needs to know about you and your level of intelligence.

      April 23, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      I don't know....someone said make Peace and not War TomTom. Sorry if I am more in touch with my inner Berkley Peace Love and Happiness CoEd. 🙂

      There comes a time when you have to look at everyone screaming and notice that no one is weak, no one is going to change their views. Many are not ashamed of their views so while you and me might think them to be silly and foolish they will continue to pridefully hold and shout their views without shame.

      So, then what TomTom? You tell me what the next step is in debate when the other side will not bend towards your way of thinking and they find that you will not bend to theirs?

      I know you are a older lady from the Greatest Generation years but your Generation did drop a nuclear device on two cities.... so maybe this all out war is something your Generation will take to your grave. For the rest of us, that will define our generation as the Greatest in that we might find another way to peace.

      April 24, 2012 at 12:16 am |
    • ha ha ha

      Black republicans should have the sense of shame to stay away from any racist issue, but then they wouldn't be republicans then would they?

      April 24, 2012 at 12:29 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Shame.....hillarious. Ok, I am interested, why should Black Republicans feel shame when discussing racial topics and issues?

      April 24, 2012 at 10:17 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Could you be any dumber? I was born in 1955, witless. I'm a boomer, not part of the "Greatest Generation". What an idiot you are.

      April 27, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Mark from Middle River –
      Coke isn't going to show you another way Mark, for that you need psychedelics.

      April 27, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ironic that Mark pretends he's all for reaching a consensus but does everything he can to be divisive. And wrong.

      April 27, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
  15. Muneef

    Reality of hate and superiority among some against the belief of others.

    April 23, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • Reality

      Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The global Sunni-Shiite blood feud (e.g. Iraq and Syria) and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      April 24, 2012 at 12:03 am |
    • Muneef

      And for those who disbelieved in their Lord is the punishment of Hell, and wretched is the destination. 67:6

      When they are thrown into it, they hear from it a [dreadful] inhaling while it boils up. 67:7

      It almost bursts with rage. Every time a company is thrown into it, its keepers ask them, "Did there not come to you a warner?" 67:8

      They will say," Yes, a warner had come to us, but we denied and said, ' Allah has not sent down anything. You are not but in great error.' " 67:9

      And they will say, "If only we had been listening or reasoning, we would not be among the companions of the Blaze." 67:10

      And they will admit their sin, so [it is] alienation for the companions of the Blaze. 67:11

      Indeed, those who fear their Lord unseen will have forgiveness and great reward. 67:12

      And conceal your speech or publicize it; indeed, He is Knowing of that within the breasts. 67:13

      Does He who created not know, while He is the Subtle, the Acquainted? 67:14

      April 24, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
    • Reality

      Then there are these koranic verses:

      "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
      o
      "Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)

      "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

      "...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

      "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

      "It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)

      "If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

      "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

      "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

      "Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)

      "'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)

      "Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)

      "Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)

      "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

      "Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)

      April 24, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • Muneef

      And say, "Indeed, I am the clear warner" – 15:89

      Just as We had revealed [scriptures] to the separators 15:90

      Who have made the Qur'an into portions. 15:91

      So by your Lord, We will surely question them all 15:92

      About what they used to do. 15:93

      Then declare what you are commanded and turn away from the polytheists.
      15:94

      Indeed, We are sufficient for you against the mockers 15:95

      Who make [equal] with Allah another deity. But they are going to know. 15:96

      And We already know that your breast is constrained by what they say. 15:97

      So exalt [ Allah ] with praise of your Lord and be of those who prostrate [to Him]. 15:98

      And worship your Lord until there comes to you the certainty (death). 15:99

      April 25, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • Muneef

      Recite in the name of your Lord who created – 96:1

      Created man from a clinging substance. 96:2

      Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous – 96:3

      Who taught by the pen – 96:4

      Taught man that which he knew not. 96:5

      No! [But] indeed, man transgresses 96:6

      Because he sees himself self-sufficient. 96:7

      Indeed, to your Lord is the return. 96:8

      Have you seen the one who forbids 96:9

      A servant when he prays? 96:10

      Have you seen if he is upon guidance 96:11

      Or enjoins righteousness? 96:12

      Have you seen if he denies and turns away – 96:13

      Does he not know that Allah sees? 96:14

      No! If he does not desist, We will surely drag him by the forelock – 96:15

      A lying, sinning forelock. 96:16

      Then let him call his associates; 96:17

      We will call the angels of Hell. 96:18

      No! Do not obey him. But prostrate and draw near [to Allah ]. 96:19

      April 25, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • cigarlover

      imo, both christianity and islam are real reason this world is f'dup. Just look around whereever they have reigned supreme (i.e. total control) they have destroyed existing culture, promoted hatred, promoted false superiority and violence.
      So both of you citing each others f'dup verses are doing a good job for everyone to see.

      April 29, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • John

      The ironic "Reality" – the equal opportunity hater. I have to applaud your even-handed ability to be a vile troll to everyone...in reality. 🙂

      April 30, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  16. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things..

    April 23, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!~!

      April 23, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • KG

      Actually, never in the history of praye, has someone been able to grow back an amputated limb. People claim all the time that prayer brought someone back from death, cured blindness, cancer, you name it, but never has prayer grown back a amputated limb. NEVER. So, I'm guessing that God hates amputees. Thoughts, Bible thumpers?

      April 27, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  17. Reality

    ONLY FOR THE NEWCOMERS:

    It is very disturbing that religious narrow- mindedness, intolerance, violence and hatred continues unabated due to randomness of birth. Maybe, just maybe if this fact would be published on the first page of every newspaper every day, that we would finally realize the significant stupidity of all religions.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    April 23, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
  18. Muneef

    They closed the comments here because they do not want to spread Love;

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/20/my-take-in-tears-of-grief-lines-between-faiths-seem-to-blur/

    April 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • Reality

      From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi----–

      The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

      ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

      Are you ready?

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      The First Five of the 77 Branches:

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
      be upon him) alone."

      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

      Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

      April 23, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
  19. Muneef

    They closed the comments here because they do not wand to spread Love;

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/20/my-take-in-tears-of-grief-lines-between-faiths-seem-to-blur/

    April 23, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
  20. Muneef

    What we need is Love...

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCFHYyErkA0&w=640&h=360]

    April 23, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • Reality

      Islam's version of love:

      The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent and Not So Recent Body Count

      As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "

      April 23, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • BlackAndProud

      @Reality: Why do you have such a problem with Muslims? Why do you believe that the Muslim faith is so bad? You do realize that Christians, Jews, Buddist, Hindu, Athiest, and etc. have all done some very bad things and none any more than the other. Yes, the 9/11 terrorist were Muslim. Timothy Mcvey was a Christian and he killed hundreds of people including children. We have a history of serial killers (domestic terrorist) in this country from all different faiths. Please step out of your cave and realize that bad people are just bad people (or crazy). It has nothing to do with what religion they believe in if any.

      April 27, 2012 at 11:19 am |
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