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April 30th, 2012
12:24 PM ET

Columnist Dan Savage stands by comments on 'bulls**t in the Bible'

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Columnist and gay-rights advocate Dan Savage is standing by his comment that “we can learn to ignore the bulls**t in the Bible about gay people” at a recent conference for high school students, a line that prompted some to walk out and spurred intense online debate.

In a blog post on Sunday, Savage wrote that his remark at a conference for the Journalism Education Association and the National Scholastic Press Association was "being spun as an attack on Christianity. Which is bullshhh… which is untrue.”

“I was not attacking the faith in which I was raised," Savage wrote. "I was attacking the argument that gay people must be discriminated against — and anti-bullying programs that address anti-gay bullying should be blocked (or exceptions should be made for bullying 'motivated by faith') — because it says right there in the Bible that being gay is wrong.”

Some Christian students walked out of the Seattle speech, prompting another controversial line from Savage: “It’s funny to someone who is on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible how pansya**ed people react when you push back.”

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Savage apologized for that specific remark in Sunday’s blog post, writing that his word choice “was insulting, it was name-calling, and it was wrong.”

One of the teachers attending the speech with his students told CNN’s Carol Costello on Monday that he was taken aback by the speech and that he supported the decision of some of his students to walk out of it.

“It took a real dark, hostile turn, certainly, as I saw it,” said Rick Tuttle, a teacher at Sutter Union High School in Southern California. “It became very hostile toward Christianity, to the point that many students did walk out, including some of my students.”

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“They felt that they were attacked … a very pointed, direct attack on one particular group of students. It’s amazing that we go to an anti-bullying speech and one group of students is picked on in particular, with harsh, profane language.”

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  1. Bon Jovi Rules

    FUCK!

    May 1, 2012 at 6:16 am |
    • Jack Kennedy

      its the closet for the gaystapo

      May 1, 2012 at 6:36 am |
  2. Bon Jovi Rules

    Christians are stupid garbage!! This guy is my new hero!

    May 1, 2012 at 6:15 am |
    • JS

      You have pretty low standards.

      May 1, 2012 at 6:51 am |
  3. harry

    Back in the closet.

    May 1, 2012 at 6:12 am |
    • Bon Jovi Rules

      Yeah, get back in it

      May 1, 2012 at 6:15 am |
  4. sinner

    Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.

    May 1, 2012 at 6:02 am |
  5. pervert alert

    Filthy qu eer found out it could get attention and make a lot of money by endorsing a controversy as a mouthpiece for the criminally insane.

    May 1, 2012 at 5:53 am |
    • sam stone

      what, did he take your job?

      May 1, 2012 at 6:13 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      You bigoted uneducated moron!! Qu.eer....really? Who the hell do you think you are to make that judgement? These people are just like you and me, they just happen to find love in the arms of someone of the same gender....that is indisputable as science as well proven. Your buybull was written by man 200 years ago and has never been fvcking updated!!! That ho.mo.phobic garbage it preaches is 2000 year old info. Of course they thought like that back then, they lived in small communities and anything abnormal was thought to be evil. Mankind has always sought for information, those sheep herders who wrote that book are no different. Sadly you can't seem to comprehend that.
      You don't have the right to judge anyone without first looking at yourself, you whole belief system falls in to a category of faith and all that is is belief without evidence. So your opinion on this matter is nothing of importance because it is wrong. Research the facts before being an ass.

      (and yes this angers me, as it should anyone who understands a damn thing about being gay)

      May 1, 2012 at 6:27 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      "Your buybull was written by man 200"

      should read 2000

      May 1, 2012 at 6:28 am |
    • sam stone

      truth: it angers me and i am straight

      May 1, 2012 at 7:02 am |
    • Robert

      So says the intellectually backrupt.

      May 1, 2012 at 7:05 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Sam but you're open minded. Notice though that perv alert is not defending his position...could it be that he realizes he won't win this argument?

      May 1, 2012 at 7:54 am |
    • Mirosal

      Just wait until June when the Supreme Court overturns Prop. 8. Then it will be legal for ANYONE abocve the age of consent to marry. That should pi.ss off the christards to no end. Can't wait 🙂

      May 1, 2012 at 7:57 am |
  6. Rose

    Kudos to the students who walked out!!!

    May 1, 2012 at 5:49 am |
    • sam stone

      yeah...nothing like running rather than listening

      May 1, 2012 at 6:14 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Yes, shut their young minds down quickly...can't have them hearing another side of the coin and potentially discovering for themselves...that might break their numbers even more.

      May 1, 2012 at 6:30 am |
    • Ijiwaru Sensei

      Sam, reasoned arguments are worth listening to. Hate speech isn't.

      May 1, 2012 at 6:30 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      How do you think it was hate speech? He pointed out an obvious fact...the buybull is full of bullies. The word bullsh!t maybe could have been avoided but he was not lying to them.

      May 1, 2012 at 6:37 am |
    • jk105

      Blubbering babies can't face the truth about themselves.

      May 1, 2012 at 7:07 am |
  7. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    May 1, 2012 at 5:30 am |
    • Robert

      neither is fear of the truth.

      May 1, 2012 at 7:07 am |
    • Robert

      Neither is fear of the truth. I think htat deep down most theists know that religion is nonsense. That's why they try so hard to silence any opposing view. They're afraid that they'll be unable to maintain their blind faith in the face of knowledge.

      May 1, 2012 at 7:09 am |
  8. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    May 1, 2012 at 5:30 am |
    • Loretta Nall

      Really? Will prayer make you stop double posting?

      I raised two wonderful, healthy, happy children in an Atheist home. The only thing unhealthy about it was the horde of angry Christians who tormented them daily at school.

      May 1, 2012 at 6:23 am |
  9. wtll scarlet

    I do not see why any one with any sense would listen to this nut case. He is only trying to justify his own life style and SELF LOATHING. People just don’t see how he is working through a crack to get at children because a liberal politically correct system that can be bullied, wormed its way into our school system. Wake up America they want your children so they can be indoctrinated in thinking that way of living is normal.The monkeys are running the zoo.

    May 1, 2012 at 5:04 am |
    • jk105

      Monkeys have more common decency, indeed hold more honest Christian values, than what you show in your hate-infested post. I would rather they run the zoo than bigots like you.

      May 1, 2012 at 5:30 am |
    • err

      Said the anti christian bigot.

      May 1, 2012 at 5:42 am |
    • sam stone

      a crack to get at children? i didn't know he was a seminarian

      May 1, 2012 at 6:17 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      @wtll scarlet: Wow, such blatant ignorance. Maybe get an education. People are born gay whether you can accept that fact or not. It is well noted by scientific studies. You can remain stupid all you wish but you do not have the right to influence a child with your ignorance....just because it doesn't meld with your world, doesn't mean it is not fact.

      May 1, 2012 at 7:05 am |
    • jk105

      Err
      Anti-Gay bigots do more damage to Christianity than those that refuse to silently suffer the bigotry.

      May 1, 2012 at 7:08 am |
  10. jetty

    Liberals denigrate and attack Christians and Jews, and then call others bigots for not supporting gay marriage. Liberal hypocrisy.

    May 1, 2012 at 4:49 am |
    • sam stone

      psuedo-Christians claim to love his fellow man, but wants some of them to have lesser rights. typical hypocrisy, whether from the right or the left.

      May 1, 2012 at 6:16 am |
  11. Bob

    Realman – what planet are you living on Denialatopia ?

    No one who wrote the bible was around at the time of the supposed events. Its an plagerised fairy tale book that had relevance when we couldn't explain about hopw the world worked. The idea that its an histrorical record of actual events is laughable. The fact that people still judge other people based on these fairy tales is offensive and stupid. I praise this guy for being honest and mock the chumps who ignore evidence to promote faith , PATHETIC

    May 1, 2012 at 4:35 am |
    • err

      Many a wiser person than you has tried to prove the historical validity of the bible is wrong and has faild son.

      May 1, 2012 at 5:45 am |
    • Jay Bee

      That's a nice fairy tale in itself you're spinning. The Bible, especially the New Testament, meets more historical proofs than many other works of ancient literature that we take as fact. It's your hatred of it that prompts you to make ridiculous claims like that.

      May 1, 2012 at 6:06 am |
  12. Jawal

    Would he make such pointed attacks against Muslims? Attack Christianity in America–the media loves you; Attack the Muslim faith–better hire body guards. What a gutless coward.

    May 1, 2012 at 4:12 am |
    • jk105

      If you knew what you were writing about, yes he has criticized Muslim countries that oppress gays. Ignorance on your part is bliss–but it is still ignorance.

      May 1, 2012 at 5:32 am |
  13. RealMan

    Some gays need to vent their hostilities and spew out such nonsense. Please stop with the venting of stupid, unfounded claims against tthe bible. Many scholars, who are way more educated and wise than anyone here on this site, have tried to refute the bible for over 2000 years with no success. Silly, childish attacks have no basis in fact and show the world how little you know and how little tolerence you have for humanity. God will not be mocked. I fear for the judgement that will come to you for your outright hatred for everything the bible stands for. God does not hate gays anymore than He hates sinners. It is the sin that is wrong. You have free will to live and die any way that you choose. For your sake, I hope you choose wisely.

    May 1, 2012 at 3:55 am |
    • sam stone

      god will certainly be mocked.

      and your empty proxy threats are laughable.

      your god is an impotent bronze age myth.

      May 1, 2012 at 4:24 am |
    • sam stone

      Also, because we do not share your belief system, to categorize us as having a hatred for everything the bible stands for is pure hyperbole.

      May 1, 2012 at 4:29 am |
    • jk105

      I guess it is "silly and childish" to refute slavery–which the Bible endorses.

      May 1, 2012 at 5:33 am |
    • Albert

      Refuting the bible 101.

      In the story of cain and Abel, they are Adam and Eve’s only children up to that point. Who then is cain afraid of when he said?

      Gen 4:14
      Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a va ga bo nd in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

      … and where are the following wives coming from?

      Gen 4:17
      And cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

      Gen 4:19
      And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

      If the primary foundation of the bible can be proven false, it only stands to reason the rest is garbage as well.

      May 1, 2012 at 7:45 am |
  14. Government Grants Information

    I do agree with all of the concepts you've offered on your post. They are really convincing and can definitely work. Still, the posts are too brief for novices. Could you please prolong them a bit from next time? Thank you for the post.

    May 1, 2012 at 3:55 am |
  15. Otto Zeit

    Well - he *would* be the expert on pansy asses.

    May 1, 2012 at 3:54 am |
  16. Hmmm

    Why are the 'progressives' on here all busy badmouthing people like Hugo Chavez...who just today emplored C h rist to heal him?

    May 1, 2012 at 3:44 am |
  17. John in Vegas

    Finally, a major gay rights advocate is willing to cross the line and go to the source of anti-gay rhetoric and bullying. I have been asking these questions for years:

    Why is there not a greater effort to speak out against bullying in our churches and religious organizations? The bullying of gay teens (and adults) began based on prejudice borne out of religious dogma. Don't we realize that a gay teen who is told every Sunday that he risks an eternity in hell is also being bullied? Or that another person may justify his hurtful actions by what his pastor says in church? We abhor the behavior of a bully in school or in our neighborhood to the point of criminality, yet we accept and even promote the right of our religious leaders (and the students who walked out on Dan’s speech) to express the same behavior in church. It is about time we put a stop to it!

    Anti-gay sentiment is not an expression of religious freedom. It is a form of bigotry that must not be tolerated in any form. We will never eliminate anti-gay bullying anywhere until we speak up and eliminate it in the pulpit first.

    Thank you Dan!

    May 1, 2012 at 3:43 am |
  18. Northlander

    Government schools hate God. Send your kids to private schools, even if it bankrupts you. And monitor what they are teaching your kids. "Public" schools are teaching your kids to accept tyrany.

    May 1, 2012 at 3:38 am |
    • Hmmm

      Well, as has been said, the schooling options for your child are (from best to worst): home school, private school, no school and public school.

      May 1, 2012 at 3:46 am |
    • sam stone

      government schools hate god? which god do they hate?

      May 1, 2012 at 6:21 am |
    • Fayrix

      @sam – They hate any god other than than state. Which is what a bunch of you atheists seems to have taken to worshipping in lieu of traditional deities.

      May 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
  19. fr0thing

    Whether you like it or not Religion is part of the human condition and I think it is wrong and a waste of time to deny folks of their beliefs – that's why freedom of religion is in the Bill of Rights. Heck some of the most 'religious' people I know are atheists – they have faith that something is true without witnessing it first hand or seeing any hard evidence.

    May 1, 2012 at 3:34 am |
    • danielwalldammit

      Big ol plate of red herring. Well cooked!

      May 1, 2012 at 3:37 am |
  20. Rich

    Learn to ignore the b******S***t about about the bible from gays. Matter of fact learn to ignore the bs gays.

    May 1, 2012 at 3:30 am |
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