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April 30th, 2012
12:24 PM ET

Columnist Dan Savage stands by comments on 'bulls**t in the Bible'

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Columnist and gay-rights advocate Dan Savage is standing by his comment that “we can learn to ignore the bulls**t in the Bible about gay people” at a recent conference for high school students, a line that prompted some to walk out and spurred intense online debate.

In a blog post on Sunday, Savage wrote that his remark at a conference for the Journalism Education Association and the National Scholastic Press Association was "being spun as an attack on Christianity. Which is bullshhh… which is untrue.”

“I was not attacking the faith in which I was raised," Savage wrote. "I was attacking the argument that gay people must be discriminated against — and anti-bullying programs that address anti-gay bullying should be blocked (or exceptions should be made for bullying 'motivated by faith') — because it says right there in the Bible that being gay is wrong.”

Some Christian students walked out of the Seattle speech, prompting another controversial line from Savage: “It’s funny to someone who is on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible how pansya**ed people react when you push back.”

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Savage apologized for that specific remark in Sunday’s blog post, writing that his word choice “was insulting, it was name-calling, and it was wrong.”

One of the teachers attending the speech with his students told CNN’s Carol Costello on Monday that he was taken aback by the speech and that he supported the decision of some of his students to walk out of it.

“It took a real dark, hostile turn, certainly, as I saw it,” said Rick Tuttle, a teacher at Sutter Union High School in Southern California. “It became very hostile toward Christianity, to the point that many students did walk out, including some of my students.”

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“They felt that they were attacked … a very pointed, direct attack on one particular group of students. It’s amazing that we go to an anti-bullying speech and one group of students is picked on in particular, with harsh, profane language.”

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  1. Moses O'Brien

    Of course this guy will attack Christians and the bible. Christians are peaceful as are the teachings of Christ.

    Hey, Dano did you get the memo... they're hanging, beheading, and stoning gays in the muslim world.

    Anything to say about that? Try a little koran bashing tough guy and see what happens you'll wind up with a knife in your chest Van Gogh style.

    The only reason gays enjoy the open and free lifestyle they have in this country is because of the tolerance and peaceful nature of Christians. End of story.

    You're a bully in the worst sense of the word.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:28 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Christian tolerance as exemplified by such groups as Manmasi National Christian Army, the National Liberation Front of Tripura, The Army of God, Aryan Nations, Aryan Republican Army, Phineas Priesthood, and The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, The Westboro Baptists, etc. ad nauseum

      May 1, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • momoya

      It's bullying to tell someone to disregard one part of the bible just like they already disregard the parts about owning sla.ves?

      What's your point about Islam?. Do you wish that christians in the US were more violent like they are, or what?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • N8263dumb

      Doc you are an idiot. Every group has their fringe. Including atheists.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:46 am |
    • jimtanker

      Xtians and MusIims believe in the same god. Just a different new testament. That is the ONLY difference.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:46 am |
    • Mustafa

      Many people only say they are Muslim to keep from being victims. This comedian has been knifed by the media just like one who has left Islam would be knifed by violence.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:46 am |
    • B.Q.M.

      You took the words right out of my mouth!

      May 1, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    • sam stone

      Tolerance and peaceful nature? Including the bloviating of how much god hates them? Christians are not peaceful and tolerant. They are cowards who prefer to hide themselves in a bible and let their celestial bully do his thing.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  2. n8263

    To the Christians here calling him a bully, are parents bullying their children by telling them Santa Claus is not real? If you think saying something a few people do not want to hear is bullying, then you have no idea what bullying is.

    Savage is telling the truth. There is nothing wrong with that, good for him! The Bible does have a lot of bullshit in it.

    Those students owe him an apology for rudely walking out the way they did in the middle of his presentation.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • N8263dumb

      The owe him an apology? Lolololololololololol!!!!!!'mmmmmmm

      May 1, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • momoya

      They should at least be kicked out of the journalism program they're in.. What would they have done as a journalist in that situation? Walk out and not report a huge news story?? lol.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • n8263

      These students do not seem very polite or attentive. Do they walk out of Biology when the chapter about Evolution comes up? Or out of Earth Science when they learn there was never a world wide flood while humans have roamed the planet? What did they do when they found out there was no Santa Claus?

      It is nice to know these students were a small minority.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • AtheistHypocracy

      Don’t make stupid statements like “Those students owe him an apology for rudely walking out the way they did in the middle of his presentation”. You know good and well that if the speaker was promoting Christianity and all the Atheist students walked out, you’d be applauding them for their bravery and standing up for what they believed in.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • momoya

      @Atheist

      This wasn't a speech about religion, but merely INCLUDED a small portion on the religious belief that promotes KI.LLING and BEATING g.a.ys..

      If the speech was about the bible, atheists could choose not to go, or they would stay if they did.. If you can't stick around because of the speekers choice of a few words, you shouldn't be a journalist.. That's just obvious.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:34 am |
  3. TJP

    People who beat up on gays (or blacks, or whoever) are not Christians, obviously. They're just thugs picking a convenient minority to beat up on. Fact of the matter is that the only reason gays are protected at all here is that this is a Christian nation, and if you do a good job of undermining Christianity to the point where it's no longer effective here, you'll quickly discover that it's not so fun living under Muslim, atheist, communist, etc. rule, where gays are often locked up or outright killed.

    Always seemed counterproductive to me to insult the Bible, considering it's the best protection you have for staying alive and free.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • jimtanker

      Good example of the "No True Scotsman" falacy.

      Xtians teach hate and are all thugs.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:28 am |
    • momoya

      TJP

      The bible supports s.l.a.v.e.ry so much so that the preachers in the South used those verses to support their position before the civil war.. Sa.v.age was saying that we now should disregard the parts about k.i.l.l.ing gays just like we disregard the part about owning sl.a.ves

      May 1, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • N8263dumb

      Momoya you are an idiot. There will be no slaves after the return of Christ. Read into it all you like but your comments have no basis in reality. Dont like it too bad, don't post on a public forum.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:48 am |
    • Fedupwith idiots

      As usual,the anti-christians are out in force. They are so pathetically easy to spot. Clue # 1,responses are scripted because little or no thought was given to the content of the post they are replying to and clue # 2 going to any length to make the moronic claim that all religions are equallly bad. Islamist groups around the world are at war with every other religion on earth.Not the other way around.Before any of you ignorant,brainwashed relativists reply,just know you are wrong and always will be.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    • momoya

      There's not going to be a "return of christ," but if there was, you'd all be god's slaves.. Read your bible, that's exactly the language it uses.. You believers are slaves..

      Why do YOU ignore the parts of the bible that tell you how to deal with your slaves or when to k.i.ll your children for disobedience or other offenses?. You ignore these parts because you don't like them; ignore the parts that tell you to k.i.ll gays, also..

      Why did you call names at me instead of addressing my reasoning?. Is that really all you got? Name calling?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • momoya

      @Fed up

      Really?. Because all I see from the christians is a willingness to lie about what happened and a willingness to lie more and deal with subjects that don't have anything to do with this issue..

      Why are you christians so scared to get in a real conversation about the acutal issues.. It seems like ya'll are too scared to stick around to discuss anything.. You guys just do drive by shootings, more or less.

      LOL, I'm supposed to agree with you that "i know I'm wrong?!?" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOL Know that you're wrong, christard.. Does it work with you when I do it?!? LOL!

      May 1, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  4. jk105

    WWJD, where are you old boy?
    Do you or do you not concur with the Bible's endorsement of slavery? You were all over the place damning people to hell for not believing in the Bible, but now that this question is asked you have disappeared.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • texastig

      The Bible does not pardon slavery. The word for slave is servant

      May 1, 2012 at 9:47 am |
    • jk105

      Sorry, but selling servants means selling human beings–which is slavery. The person being sold has no say in the matter. It is slavery. Try reading the Bible.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • Primewonk

      texastig wrote, "The Bible does not pardon slavery. The word for slave is servant"

      So you can go out and capture young virgin girls and use them for se.x slaves – er, servants? How come if I bought a male Hebrew as a servant I had to set him free after 6 years, but if I bought a female Hebrew, I get to keep her forever, and even hand her over to my kids?

      How come I'm fine if I beat my servants so hard that they die after a couple days?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  5. vernonica davidson

    I don't approve or condone of the gay lifestyle. That being said, I say live and let live.

    However, some members of the gay community as well as the atheists aggressively push their agenda. Part of that is trying to influence our kids. That disgusts me.

    Kudos to those kids who walked out. They don't have to sit and listen to him spew garbage. That man makes my skin crawl.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • momoya

      Wanna know what I hate?? I hate when parents tell their children that if they're bad they'll spend an eternity suffering for that "sin.". It's disgusting that a parent would ever abuse their children with such a disgusting story and god who claims to be loving and forgiving but built and sustains a fiery pit of never-ending torment..

      Parents who do that should be locked up and never see their children again.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • jk105

      If you respect people who storm out of a room because of "spewed garbage" why do you sit still when preachers spew anti-gay hate?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:31 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      veronica: Do you enjoy being thought of as a hypocritical bigot? He is doing nothing wrong. He did not teach the kids anything that is wrong. He pointed out something that is factual. Sadly you are not able to do the same.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:31 am |
    • Primewonk

      Influence kids?

      You mean like telling them that it's natural to be born gay? Like telling them that it's wrong for these fundiot cretins to denigrate, castigate, beat, bash, and kill kids because they are gay? Like telling gay kids that they are enti.tled to the exact same civil rights as straight kids?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:56 am |
  6. denis now

    I guess this guy has "guts" to say something against Christianity because Christian have some reservations against gay people, , but of course that kind of guts are not there when you have to talk against Mahoma and Muslims because they think the best gay is a dead gay, and they killed or jailed them.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:15 am |
    • momoya

      What's your point?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • jimtanker

      Denis, you are completely wrong. Christians dont teach that they have a "reservation" about gays. They are taught by their "good book" to kiII gay people. Just becuase you dont believe everything in your book doesnt mean that it doesnt teach the same hate at the Qur@n.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • texastig

      jimtanker, give the Book, chapter and verse in the New Testament where Christians are taught to kiII gay people.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:51 am |
    • Primewonk

      texastig wrote, "give the Book, chapter and verse in the New Testament where Christians are taught to kiII gay people."

      Your god commands in Leviticus 20:13 to go and kill gay folks. Yes, that is the OT. However, your very own Jesus tells you that the OT's rules are still in play – Matthew 5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:14 am |
  7. Primewonk

    The students who walked out are the same students who think the earth is 6000 years old and that a talking snake convinced a rib-woman to eat a magic fruit.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:13 am |
    • momoya

      Suppose all the students who walked out were in a position where their morals were being violated, but it was in a way that was pleasurable to them.. Would they each get up and walk out?? I doubt it.

      The only christians who really had a right to be offended were those who still believe that sla.very is a fantastic idea.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • Mark Meyer

      And you know this, How? Did you speak with them? Do you know them personally? Typical liberal tactic. Some people just don't want to sit and listen to HATE. You condone the hate because it comes form a gay man. If his choice is to be gay then so what. Does that give him some license to be a fascist?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • momoya

      Mark, please explain how it was "hate.". Thanks.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • N8263dumb

      Your theology is in severe need of help

      May 1, 2012 at 9:44 am |
  8. Primewonk

    A Son of Libertywrote, "Being gay is a CHOICE!"

    Over the past decades fundiots (fundamentalist îdiots), like you, have posted this tens of thousands of times. And tens of thousands of times we have asked you, and those of your ilk, to post the citations to the peer-reviwed scientific research that shows gays choose to be gay – and thus by corollary, that we straights choose to be straight.

    To be fair, we have posted the citations to hundreds of peer-reviewed research papers showing the biological multivariate nature of human se.xual orientation. And we'vedone it thousands and thousands of times.

    Sadly, to date, not a single solitary one of you fundiots has ever posted a single solitary citation. Not one Not once. Ever.

    I wonder why?

    May 1, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • Shae

      Your screen name suits you.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • momoya

      That reply suits you.. Vacuous.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • Primewonk

      Shae – I couldn"t help but notice that you, like the other fundiots, refused to post the science that shows gays choose to be gay. Why?

      I'm also a bit confused about why you denigrate my screen name?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  9. Mythos

    This guy is a bully himself. But those that are gay or lesbian hate and bully those of religious faith and well religion in general because the bible condemns everything that they do and states that they are an abomination but that is what the "evil" bible states.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • LEGeorge

      Amen !

      May 1, 2012 at 9:36 am |
    • Primewonk

      Your bible also says that eating shellfish is an abomination. Yet I never see roving bands of fundiots going in to Red Lobster and yelling that all the diners are going to hell.

      Your bible also says that wearing clothes of more than one fiber is an abomination. Yet I never see roving bands of fundiots beating the cr.ap out of someone on the street for wearing a cotton/poly shirt.

      Your bible also says that women who are not virgins on their wedding night are to be stoned. Yet I don't see bands of fundiots demanding to check brides on their wedding day for intact hymens.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:29 am |
  10. Robert

    I hate to say it, but this falls into the "reap what you sow" category. For so many years, Christians have gone against what the Bible teaches, regarding hating sin but loving the sinner (which we ALL are). Now that we are slowly becoming the vocal minority in political discourse, it's coming home to roost. All sin is sin - we should reach out to the world in love. And BTW: in Paul's letters we were taught to only point out and speak against sin in the church; not in those living in the world. That's the Holy Spirit's job. The discourse must change - not to "tolerance" as the world sees it, but to tolerance and patience to the unreconciled.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:05 am |
  11. jjooede

    getting a man's e rect p enis repeatedly pounded into another man's a nal passage causing massive a nal leakage is NOT natural – it's like monkies who throw their dung,,,, we keep them locked up in a cage because its not fully evolved yet... The devil has gotten a grip on America... The first thing the devil does is to make the collective minds believe that he does not exist and that man created God and not the other way around.... Gay = Evil.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:04 am |
    • momoya

      What about g.a.ys who don't do any an.al s3x?? Your warning doesn't apply to them according to what you wrote.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • your god is irreducibly complex

      Common sense alone leads to the idea that man created god. Your beliefs are not immune to common sense. Using the ancient scare tactic of the "devil has gotten a grip" on society should not detract from common sense.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:23 am |
  12. Ricemanstm

    Being gay isn't a sin. It's the whole "laying with another man as a woman" part that is the sin. Get it right...what a jack tard...

    May 1, 2012 at 9:03 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      So as long as they don't act on it, all is well? Typical christard statement! How very bigoted of you!

      May 1, 2012 at 9:12 am |
    • Ricemanstm

      No moron, I was simply clarifying the "sin" part. I tried to use small words so even someone of your mental caliber would understand it.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:14 am |
    • Ricemanstm

      If I may, it's pretty clear you have NO idea what the word "bigoted" even means. Thanks for playing though.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      No sir, it is you who is ignorant and have no clue as to the meaning of the word gay when it pertains to se.xual orientation. You are a bigot. Gay people will have se.xual relations and no it is not wrong...it is as natural as a hetero.se.xual couple having se.xual relations. You choosing to remain ignorant and try to play with definitions is pathetic. When these people do something to hurt you, then you can be bigoted, until then it is not your place to make a judgment.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • tcp

      It is very interesting to watch two bigots go at each other. Both of you using the ever so quaint and horribly vitriolic "tard" suffix places you SQUARELY in that category...

      May 1, 2012 at 9:48 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      No idiot, I'm far from a bigot...bigot is defined as a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. I have zero tolerance for all stupidity, not just Rice's. However Rice attacks a specific group with the comment he/she made. I attack no-one based on se.xual orientation. If it is not based in reality and on factual evidence it deserves ridicule and questioning.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:30 am |
  13. kidsister12

    What a "freak show" this guy is. I guess you must screen your "wing-nuts" before and during their presentation. It's hard to pick 'em these days, but this guy has most certainly got to go !!

    May 1, 2012 at 8:58 am |
    • momoya

      What did he do that makes him a "freakshow?"

      May 1, 2012 at 9:03 am |
    • inluvwjesus

      It appears he is also Christophobic ... can't change the truth because you think it is inconvenient for your choice in lifestyle. Don't kill the messengers we didn't create the message we are just bringing it.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:10 am |
    • momoya

      Sa.va.ge was only suggesting that we treat the OT parts of the bible that deal with ho.mo.s.e.xuality as we treat the parts of the bible that promote sla.very.. What's wrong with that?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  14. myshiba

    adultery is a sin..so why aren't folks up in arms about that?

    May 1, 2012 at 8:57 am |
    • Lor

      They are up in arms about that, donchaknow?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:14 am |
    • mark

      Christians are. Its also a sin. Sin is sin. Its all bad and disappoints God.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      No Mark, not all christians are against adultery. It happens as much within the christian community as it does outside of it.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • jimtanker

      Punishable by death as well.

      May 1, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  15. n8263

    To the Christians here calling him a bully, are parents bullying their children by telling them Santa Claus is not real? If you think saying something a few people do not want to hear is bullying, then you have no idea what bullying is.

    He is telling the truth. There is nothing wrong with that, good for him! The Bible does have a lot of bullshit in it.

    May 1, 2012 at 8:48 am |
    • Richard

      Christ scares you that bad you need to attack? retard!

      May 1, 2012 at 8:53 am |
    • LEGeorge

      You are dead wrong and you one day will realize that fact. Personally, for you and those whom you may influence, I sincerely hope it will be sooner than later.

      May 1, 2012 at 8:56 am |
    • momoya

      Richard, please explain what you mean by "attack.". Because what I say happens was a guy speaking WORDS on a stage and some people who didn't like it got up and walked out.. Sav.age never said that people were/are "pansyazz," he said that their behavior was "pansyazz.".

      So, please, tell me, when did the "attack" happen?

      May 1, 2012 at 8:58 am |
    • momoya

      Since Legeorge is supporting death, I'm going to go ahead and guess that he's a christian.

      May 1, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • your god is irreducibly complex

      LEGeorge, how is n8263 wrong exactly? Your beliefs are not immune to common sense.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:02 am |
    • holdenqcaulfield

      He was bullying Christians, calling them pansyassed to kids walking out. That is a coward bullying people. There are ways to make the point that there are a lot of controversial things in the bible without bullying, Dan didn't do it. Again his message was muddled and lost in translation because he is a fool.

      How hard is it to say some messages in the bible are outdated and wrong, We can see that now, we can see that the bible should be taken as guidelines of morality and faith not as a tool to take verbatim. If it was then many people even in this room would have already been stoned for their sins. There are entire books of the bible that are outdated, Leviticus comes to mind, does that mean the entire book is worthless? No, our own laws in this country that are only 200 years old are outdated as well does that invalidate our entire legal system? No it just needs a touch up, just like the bible. With common sense and some understanding we can solve this bullying problem, with legislation that protects those who need protecting. You can believe everything you want in the bible, but that doesn't give you the right to persecute and torture others using those teachings, that should not be protected speech. Hating someone because they are different should not be protected, if we all stand together and can agree that in some way we are all different and each of us wouldn't want to be bullied. Then we can agree that legislation needs to change with the times and start to cover bullying by others for all reasons, just as discrimination has been updated, antibullying is along the same lines.

      You can say that in an articulate fashion or you can be a bully. Dan chose the wrong path.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • your god is irreducibly complex

      So you are admitting that your "holy book" is flawed. What use does it serve now? The answer is none. We need to be responsible for our own laws, and we do not need a 2,000 year old collection of myths to tell us how to govern ourselves. Morality comes from the advancement of society, not the bible.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:18 am |
  16. jk105

    WWJD
    I notice you refuse to answer the question about whether or not you concur with the Bible's endorsement of slavery.
    Knock, knock, anybody home?

    May 1, 2012 at 8:45 am |
    • Beartrapper

      Personally I don't care if anyone is gay. I am not at all impressed with the anti bullying advocate being so intolerant of Christians as to make his positions seem hypocritical.
      To be completely clinical about the whole "gay" thing, the Bible has clear proscriptions against this behavior. If you are not a believer, it is definitely a evolutionary and biological dead end.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:00 am |
    • momoya

      I don't see where Sav.age was being "intolerant;" I only see where Sav.age points out that christians shouldn't follow the bible's instructions on killing g.a.y people just like christians no longer follow the bible's instructions on owning slaves.. I don't see any bullying or persecution or anything like that.. If these students can't handle those few comments, then they aren't going to get very far in journalism.

      With population growth skyrocketing like never before, I imagine that we will see many more people who are ho.mos.e.xual in the coming decades.. From an evolutionist's standpoint, ho.mo.s.ex.uality removes entire sections of population from the reproductive cycle which helps bring our population somewhat back in balance with nature.. We see this sort of correlation in the wild and in our own species.. It seems to be a very good thing that naturally helps solve population booms.

      Personally I don't care if anyone is gay. I am not at all impressed with the anti bullying advocate being so intolerant of Christians as to make his positions seem hypocritical.
      To be completely clinical about the whole "gay" thing, the Bible has clear proscriptions against this behavior. If you are not a believer, it is definitely a evolutionary and biological dead end.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:13 am |
    • Primewonk

      bBeartrapper wrote, "If you are not a believer, it is definitely a evolutionary and biological dead end"

      If you choose to be ignorant about science, why would you go onto an internet message board and demonstrate that ignorance for all to see? The theory of evolution handles ho.mose.xuality quite nicely.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:31 am |
    • Dobro

      You need to re-read the book of Philemon again, you will find in there a persuasive argument against slavery, one that William Wilberforce used effectively to end commercial slavery in the British Empire. As for the Bibles “endorsement” of slavery you’ll find more limitations on the practice than “endorsements”. There are things in the Bible I look at and go “Ick” but that’s the beauty of the Hebrew/Christians scriptures is that they allow the sinful nature of man to be put up on display for everyone to see the disgusting nature of sin.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:05 am |
  17. haterslayer

    Meh one religion is as flawed as the next. The Atheists views are probably the worst, No god?!?! What about the beginning, the Big bang is that not your creator the start of all life? Faith does not just come from some old useless tomb. It's the acknowledgment of the reasoning of your own existence. Believing in science is a faith that's structured by theories, facts and laws. Much like Christianity, Islam and Judaism are structured by creeds, commandments, gospels, and im sorry but stories as well. You all are fighting to prove who's right which none of you are. Humanity is flawed, therefore that is why I don't believe in any religion. Human-beings are capable of being corrupted nearly 100% of the time, Religion is man made so wouldn't it become susceptible to the same human error. Im certainly not atheist, I do believe in science because it is not man-made, Science is governed by the laws of nature and existed before the first living creature ascended from the primordial muck. But even science must have a beginning. I believe in God; not your god mind you but I do have enough respect to at least acknowledge our beginning and im patiently waiting for our end.

    May 1, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • haterslayer

      I have faith, no need for religion

      May 1, 2012 at 8:47 am |
    • Whats Not To Like

      You sound very upset and judgemental about other people's beliefs..i am just wondering if you'd feel the same way about the earth ; god and the solar system if you'd have to hunt for every meal while sewing soccer balls in Pakistian..just sayin

      May 1, 2012 at 9:00 am |
    • Primewonk

      You think life began with the Big Bang? So you purposefully choose to be ignorant about ccosmology, abiogenesis, and evolution?

      May 1, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • momoya

      Just because we don't know how the big bang "began" or where it came from does not mean that it is one answer out of the trillions and trillions and trillions of possible answers.. We just don't know.. I'd rather be honest and say that we don't know than a.ssume someone's god that has multiple personalities that are each more bat-sh!t crazy than the last one.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:15 am |
    • haterslayer

      "Whats Not To Like" Im not mad just stating what I see, If you want anger take up arms with the atheists and the other cultists, yes I believe all religions are a cult, sue me. Im stating that where are all dead wrong until "proven otherwise" <– I apologize about forgetting that part if it means anything. I believe that we are far from knowing the truth because we can barely understand and deal with each other so knowing the absolute truth about the beginning at this point is beyond us, I'm just using simple reasoning. And it might just so be that cold hard facts may never answer that question, It may be a paradox or an Everest of an algorithm or that it might just exist and nothing more.

      lol primewonk (face-palm) You serious?, did you even read up on Abiogenesis, lol It's about how organic life, you know... how it started. and it basically coming from inorganic materials through natural means. What did the Big Bang supposedly release?!?! Inorganic material! So what Im saying Mr. Literal is that technically the creator (Big Bang) of our creator (Inorganic material) is our creator, if the Big Bang is the factor. I put science on a high standard, I just don't fall head over heel for theories.

      May 2, 2012 at 9:15 am |
  18. Ernie

    It's also frustrating when those extolling tolerance and acceptance can't tolerate people that don't want to hear their message and exercise their freedom to just walk away. The students weren't confrontational or rude, they simply chose to remove themselves from the situation. Tolerance is a two-way street. And tolerance doesn't mean acceptance.

    May 1, 2012 at 8:26 am |
    • jk105

      Tolerance of course means they can walk away in a cvil manner. They don't have the right to lie and say they are being bullied.

      May 1, 2012 at 8:30 am |
    • n8263

      Listening does not mean acceptance. It is considered rude to walk out on someone's speach like that. Those students owe him an apology.

      May 1, 2012 at 8:31 am |
  19. Dave

    Being gay is sometimes natural, sometimes a choice because our society is making it a "cool thing to do" especially for so-called lipstick lesbians. The facts are ACTUAL gay people are on the order 2% of the population yet somehow hollywood deems it neccesary to have a gay person in almost every single TV show and every other movie. THAT is why people get sick of the whole thing. Then add in the main stream news and the amount of time they talk about gay "rights" and issues, and most of us do feel it is constantly being shoved in our face.

    BE GAY, most of us do not care, just shut up about it.

    May 1, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • WWJD

      It is against God's will. It is a sin. Period.

      May 1, 2012 at 8:24 am |
    • jk105

      Don't lie. If you want me to shut up about it, then you care.

      May 1, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • sam stone

      dave: then stop denying these people the same civil rights as you (or i) enjoy

      May 1, 2012 at 8:37 am |
    • A Son of Liberty

      Being gay is a CHOICE!

      May 1, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • jk105

      Son of Liberty
      When did you choose to be straight? Maybe you clicked your cha cha heels three times and poof because straight, but that is not the real world experience of gay people. So please describe the day you choose to be straight.

      May 1, 2012 at 8:49 am |
    • your god is irreducibly complex

      "WWJD", if your imaginary friend says it's wrong, then by all means listen to "him". But that doesn't mean that you have to impose your views on everyone else. Remember, according to your (false) religion, there is only one judge and it is not you.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:15 am |
  20. 144Cent

    World's toughest gerbil herder.

    May 1, 2012 at 8:15 am |
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