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April 30th, 2012
12:24 PM ET

Columnist Dan Savage stands by comments on 'bulls**t in the Bible'

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Columnist and gay-rights advocate Dan Savage is standing by his comment that “we can learn to ignore the bulls**t in the Bible about gay people” at a recent conference for high school students, a line that prompted some to walk out and spurred intense online debate.

In a blog post on Sunday, Savage wrote that his remark at a conference for the Journalism Education Association and the National Scholastic Press Association was "being spun as an attack on Christianity. Which is bullshhh… which is untrue.”

“I was not attacking the faith in which I was raised," Savage wrote. "I was attacking the argument that gay people must be discriminated against — and anti-bullying programs that address anti-gay bullying should be blocked (or exceptions should be made for bullying 'motivated by faith') — because it says right there in the Bible that being gay is wrong.”

Some Christian students walked out of the Seattle speech, prompting another controversial line from Savage: “It’s funny to someone who is on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible how pansya**ed people react when you push back.”

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Savage apologized for that specific remark in Sunday’s blog post, writing that his word choice “was insulting, it was name-calling, and it was wrong.”

One of the teachers attending the speech with his students told CNN’s Carol Costello on Monday that he was taken aback by the speech and that he supported the decision of some of his students to walk out of it.

“It took a real dark, hostile turn, certainly, as I saw it,” said Rick Tuttle, a teacher at Sutter Union High School in Southern California. “It became very hostile toward Christianity, to the point that many students did walk out, including some of my students.”

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“They felt that they were attacked … a very pointed, direct attack on one particular group of students. It’s amazing that we go to an anti-bullying speech and one group of students is picked on in particular, with harsh, profane language.”

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  1. Sam

    Dan just can't put his weenie where nature designed for it to go but he calls religion BS???
    As if a life spent pushing men's poo is a natural alternative??

    May 1, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      Hey Sam!

      What are you going to do when you go to your afterlife and your god wants you to blow him?

      May 1, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • momoya

      Well, to be fair, he was saying that CHRISTIANS treat parts of the bible like BS when they don't sl.au.ghter their children when they disobey and don't own sl.av.es like the bible commands.. Dan was merely suggesting that you christians treat the g.a.y bashing part just like the stoning children/owning sl.av.es part that's just a few verses over..

      What's so wrong about telling you chrisitans what you're already doing?!?

      May 1, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • jk105

      Nature steers my weenie just fine. Sorry you are having problems with yours.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • GodsPeople

      Actually JK, pe-rve-rsi-on steers yours. You were mo-les-ted at some point by a same-s-3-x relative, and you probably don't even remember it because of the traumatic damage it causes.

      May 1, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • momoya

      Oh the peaceful loving comments of christians!

      May 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • sam stone

      I see that GodsPeople is still the spokesman for the inbred motherscratcher crowd. Back on your knees

      May 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • GodsPeople

      Actually, momoya, like you are whenever you talk, you're wrong. I know about i-t because I've been THROUGH it. 7 years old, m–ol–e–st–ed by a boy 8 years my senior (not a relative, but a neighbor).. forgot about i-t for years because it was so tra-um-ati-zi-ng, however, people often times identify with their ab-us-er in odd ways. Mine became supposed "bis3–xu-alit-y.." I practiced for years, and THOUGHT it was normal. It wasn't until I faced what had happened that it stopped. It did stop, however.

      @Sam Stone: And just think.. you honestly believe you're intelligent. People call us delusional, but I think YOU take the cake there.

      May 1, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
  2. holy moly

    so many fools

    May 1, 2012 at 11:18 am |
  3. Voice of Reason

    If Noah threw spider's off the ark we wouldn't have spiders today.

    May 1, 2012 at 11:12 am |
  4. LinCA

    Everyone who thinks that homosexuality is a choice should answer the following questions:
    – If it is so clearly against the will of their god, why are there christians that "choose" to be homosexual?
    – What are the benefits of choosing homosexuality over heterosexuality?
    – How do these benefits outweigh the obvious drawbacks?
    – When did you choose your sexuality?
    – What were the most important reasons for you to you pick yours?
    – What would it take for you to switch?

    May 1, 2012 at 11:12 am |
  5. gerry mann

    who cares what the Fay Boy said. He spreads aids

    May 1, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • momoya

      I take it you're a christian with words like that?

      May 1, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      Do you have anything in your shallow little mind that would resemble intelligence?

      May 1, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      @gerry: You have some evidence to back the aids part of your comment? Really, how can you live being so ignorant? Gays are not the only people who get AIDS/HIV and spread it.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:55 am |
  6. Bud

    Seattle? Gay Activist? Liberal? Really? Who'd've thought that possible. Put a wall around that city and then fill it with water.

    May 1, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      Religious intolerance = mental retardation

      May 1, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • Nonimus

      Why the wall? Why not just another global flood? Oh, right the unchanging God of the Bible promised never to do that again, didn't he. What a shame.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:02 am |
  7. Jacob

    God bless them for walking out.

    Only neutered leftist teachers beholden to corrupt public unions would endure that depraved psychopath and his queen outrage.

    May 1, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by Jacob is an instance of the the circ-umstantial ad hominem fallacy.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      May 1, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • momoya

      TEST

      May 1, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • momoya

      J.a.c.o.b,

      p.l.e.a.s.e e.x.p.l.a.i.n h.o.w y.o.u c.a.m.e t.o t.h.e c.o.n.cl.u.s.i.o.n t.h.a.t S.a.v.a.g.e i.s a p.s.y.c.h.o.p.a.t.h, b.e.c.a.u.s.e t.o m.e i.t s.e.e.m.s l.i.k.e h.e j.u.s.t m.e.n.t.i.o.n.e.d h.o.w c.h.r.i.s.t.i..a.n.s a.l.r.e..a.d.y w.e.r.e..n.'t f.o.l.l.o.w.i.ng t.h.e b.i.t o.f t.h.e b.i.b.l.e a.b.o.u.t o.w.n.i.n.g s.l.a.v.e.s a.n.d k.i.l.l.i.n.g d.i.s.o.b.e.d.i.e.n.t c.h.i.l.d.r.e.n w.h.i.c.h i.s r.i.g.h.t ne.x.t. t.o t.h.e p.a.r.t a.bo.u.t k.i.l.l.i.n.g g.a.y.s s.o t.h.e.y s.h.ou.l.d j.u.st d.i.s.r.e.g.a.r.d t.h.e p.a.r.t a.b.o.u.t b.e.a.t.i.n.g u.p g.a.y.s.. H.e a.l.s.o n.e.v.e.r c.a.l.l.e.d n.a.m.e.s b.u.t s.i.m.p.l.y d.e.s.c.r.i.b.e.d. h.i.s v.i.e.w o.f t.h.e.i.r b.e.h.a.v.i.o.r.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • momoya

      FVCK YOU CNN WORD FILTER, FVCK YOU!!!

      I had to put a period between every single letter-even words like "is" and "to." FVCK YOU CNN!!

      May 1, 2012 at 11:07 am |
    • LinCA

      @momoya

      Yup. You can't use "Savage" because it contains "vag".

      May 1, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • momoya

      Yeah, but I literally had periods between every letter except the articles.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      momoya, do a 'view source' on some of the disallowed words that got through on some of the posts, and you'll see an 'invisible' alternative to the dots. -although you probably know it already.

      May 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • momoya

      I'm an old lady and I have no idea what you're talking about.. sorry.

      May 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  8. Jim DeHart

    The uneducated are terrific at knocking down the pillars of society, and he is just that uneducated and not worth the electrons spent to write this short line.

    Sincerely, Jimbo63

    May 1, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'Jim DeHart" is an instance of the ad hominem fallacy, and also contains a non sequitur argument.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      May 1, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • sam

      Look, everyone – morning wisdom from someone who refers to himself as 'Jimbo'.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      @Jimbo63: Uneducated would be more accurate description of you. You just put down a man you know next to nothing about and you based it off of his se.xual orientation that does not affect you in any way nor is it wrong in any way. If you were educated you would know that he is like all other ho.mo.se.xuals and was born gay, you'd know that he didn't choose to be gay.

      May 1, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  9. zahbudda

    "What do want with us Jesus of Nazareth... cried the Demon".... all the Demons of hell and whose Spirit is he that is in the World...come out to attack the Followers of Christ with Hate and mocking....

    Know this... we are in the Spirit... not in the World.... you are perishing... it is we who have Life... purchased by at a great price.. The Cross...

    Also know this... The Lord is mighty in battle... and will Judge you... your Body will die... but Your Soul will be judged....

    So rave on... ye who are perishing... Judgement is coming and Hell with it. You may not believe in it... but you are still going !

    Thank you Lord!

    May 1, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • momoya

      Yes, you were born in exactly the right culture in exactly the right time period to be raised with a dominant myth that just happened to be right instead of all the other myths that other people were raised with in their culture.. Good thing you weren't born in another part of the world or in a different time period with a different dominant religion!!

      May 1, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'zahbudda' is a form of the flawed argument known as Pascal's Wager.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      May 1, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • verheek

      These arguments are a waste of time because they are man's wisdom. Man of all things knows better of course.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • Dad and Coach

      Another philosophy student who wasn't listening in class. Pascal was simply arguing honestly to a situation where both the existence and non-existence of God are impossible to prove by human reason. So, supposing that reason by humans, cannot determine the truth between the two options, one must "wager" by weighing the possible consequences. This makes the argument that you cannot disprove anyone's faith any more than they can make you believe in what they do. Neither side should hate the other, but have compassion even without fully understanding.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • momoya

      Pascal's Wagers is s.cr.ew.ed up for a lot of reasons, but the primary one is that it presumes only one possible "god," or only allows choice between "not god" and "god-but-not-defined.". It's like betting on either 4 or 19 at a roulette table, but instead only betting on "4" out of trillions and trillions and trillions of possibilities.. In short, it's stupid logic.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:10 am |
  10. A.Allen

    I am really saddened that such a beautiful message of the Cross and the Resurrection of Jesus is becoming lost in the rhetoric of the politically minded. I am a Christian. I don't apologize for it and I love the teaching in the Bible. I am hurt that someone would spew such hatred at a conference of teenagers. Shouldn't we allow them, the teenagers, to make up their own minds about the Gospel and the teachings of Christ Jesus? I, too, struggle with the idea of gays in the church, but I don't want to judge and discriminate. I know the love of God is available to all, not a chosen few.
    These are just the ramblings of a Seeker.

    May 1, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Nonimus

      " I, too, struggle with the idea of gays in the church, ..."

      Then you struggle with "God's plan."

      P.s. if you think human/deity sacrifice for the sins of generations passed is "beautiful," then you might want to reconsider your viewpoint.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • AMB

      There are many parts of the Bible Christians ignore, especially in Leviticus. And I can't think of the last time a child was STONED TO DEATH for disobeying their parents.

      It would be better if you Christians would stand up for modernity, and tell the people trying to turn this into an issue that they're full of crap and know full well that there are lots of parts of the Bible that people don't believe anymore.

      Leviticus has proscriptions against all kinds of behavior that is now considered normal.

      This phony outrage is really stupid.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • Jake Mans

      Why are you gays so angry? Gay – happy? Yeah right! A bunch of foul mouthed loons! Check out Twitter, you tactless gays..Your message of hate is seen by us all. Your hero in the WH loves you, but we are sick of you.

      We will crush you in Nov.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • YeahRight

      "Why are you gays so angry? "

      Because they are being denied their civil rights!

      These rights include:

      Tax Benefits
      -–Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
      -–Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

      Estate Planning Benefits
      -–Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
      -–Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
      -–Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
      -–Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse – that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

      Government Benefits
      -–Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
      -–Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
      -–Receiving public as-sistance benefits.
      -–Employment Benefits
      -–Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
      -–Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
      -–Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
      -–Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

      Medical Benefits
      -–Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
      -–Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

      Death Benefits
      -–Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
      -–Making burial or other final arrangements.

      Family Benefits
      -–Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
      -–Applying for joint foster care rights.
      -–Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
      -–Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

      Housing Benefits
      -–Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
      -–Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.

      Consumer Benefits
      -–Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
      -–Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
      -–Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.
      -–Other Legal Benefits and Protections
      -–Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
      -–Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
      -–Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
      -–Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
      -–Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
      -–Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Bob

      So, A.Allen, how come your 'omnipotent' creature couldn't do all that saving without the loony son sacrifice bit? And for that matter, how was it a sacrifice at all, when an omnipotent being could just pop up a replacement son any time it wants with less than a snap of its fingers? Pretty feeble god it is that you've made for yourself there.

      And as for your god being 'loving', take a look at this loving chestnut, or many others like it in the bible:
      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Note also that the bible is very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes your sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations, and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 1, 2012 at 10:55 am |
  11. Hebramleigh

    Scott Wallace, by saying so I suppose YOU know the true word of God. Why don't you enlighten us?

    May 1, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  12. Doug

    This guy's claim to fame is putting Santorum in Urban Dictionary. Why the school hired him as a speaker should be the question without doing proper due dillegence.

    BTW I believe in Evolution: I fell asleep last night and two atoms smashed and when I woke up there was perfectly brand new Cadillac in my backyard filled with gas and the key's were on my kitchen counter.

    May 1, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • momoya

      You, sir, a fvkcing moron when it comes to evolution.. It'd be like me saying television is bad because it shoots lasers and uses the souls of little children for its operating power.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • fred

      It wasn't at a school.

      BTW I believe in creationism: I fell asleep last night and prayed to god and when I woke up there was perfectly brand new Cadillac in my backyard filled with gas and the key's were on my kitchen counter, and it all just popped into existence. What a miracle eh?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • Nonimus

      "BTW I believe in Evolution: I fell asleep last night and two atoms smashed and when I woke up there was perfectly brand new Cadillac in my backyard filled with gas and the key's were on my kitchen counter."
      you misunderstood... you believe in magic.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Doug

      God is the being who created everything, with his own rules and laws. If you can state to me the two atoms came from that created the perfect earth, I will believe in the 'Theory' of evolution.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • momoya

      Creationists: People who think the answer "goddiditwithspells" is better than an entire field of science that produces vaccines, medical equipment, medicines, surgical tools, telescopes that can look back in time almost to the big bang, YOUR COMPUTER, etc..

      Creationists, tell me, what will change if you get all the scientists to mutter, "god did it by speaking spells into the void and we see the 'design?'". Seriously.. What will it change?. Will experiments give better results? in half the time? will we see god magic when we do science? what?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • momoya

      @Doug

      You're being amazingly stupid.. You're listing a process that is stupid and has nothing to do with evolution and asking evolutionists to prove it.. It'd be like me saying, "Oh, you're a christian, prove that Nehemiah was Jesus' dad."

      May 1, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • Voice of Reason

      Doug
      God is the being who created everything, with his own rules and laws.

      Prove it.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • Nonimus

      @Doug,
      "If you can state to me the two atoms came from that created [God] I will believe in the [story of creation]"

      p.s. A *scientific theory* is a well substantiated, well tested, and verified explanation of how the world works.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Doug

      @ Momoya you are lost. How did medicine come into question? Science is what God gave to us. Since "us" people are not perfect, science is not perfect. You cannot put full faith into science – For example something as identifying the a planet cannot be done without a mistake. We were taught for decades that Pluto is a planet when in fact its not.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • YeahRight

      "Science is what God gave to us."

      So what created your god? For that matter what created all the gods that are worshiped today?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • *facepalm*

      @Doug – Pluto? Really? Did you fail 6th grade science? The only thing astronomers did was change how they classified large objects circling the sun. This invalidates exactly no science.

      The great thing about science is that its always evolving and growing. No, full faith should certainly not be put into science – that would be counter to the scientific method. Science needs questioning, whereas religion largely forbids it. I'm not sure why you think saying 'I'm not sure of an answer' is such a bad thing. Why do you NEED to know something 100%. And why are you using the god of the gaps? You're just filling in god for that which you don't – or in some cases it seems won't – understand. Sad, really. Your lack of basic science knowledge is very evident in your posts. You would do yourself a favor if you educated yourself on basic scientific principles, such as the second law of thermodynamics (often incorrectly used to attempt to debunk evolution – like you used it earlier). Perhaps if you were more knowledgable about the subjects you attempt to speak on you would end up with less egg on your face.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • Doug

      God is what he is. He created the wordly presence that we know, created every bit of science, created every law. That's the flaw with every man theory. There is nothing to prove, I have faith in God, and I can think and worry about other things in this world.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • @youignantdotcom

      @doug: you said "How did medicine come into question? Science is what God gave to us. Since "us" people are not perfect, science is not perfect. You cannot put full faith into science – For example something as identifying the a planet cannot be done without a mistake. We were taught for decades that Pluto is a planet when in fact its not."

      If god gave us science, shouldn't it be perfect? If god gave us science, you should be able to put your faith into it. I mean god created it and all, right?

      The fact here is that you put your faith in a book written by a bunch of fallible human beings who copied prior religions then edited that book over a long period of time to fit their agenda. You put your faith in MAN just like the people who believe in Science. Both religion and science are MAN MADE, yet only one of those is substantiated by hypothesis, trial and error and actual observation rather than rampant speculation

      May 1, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • Doc Neaves

      YeahRight

      "Science is what God gave to us."

      So what created your god? For that matter what created all the gods that are worshiped today?

      Ignorance. Sheer Ignorance. Fear of the unknown, and of Ignorance, but Ignorance, just the same.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • @youignantdotcom

      "There is nothing to prove, I have faith in God, and I can think and worry about other things in this world."

      There is nothing to prove, I have faith in the easter bunny (or santa, or leprechauns). See how moronic this sounds?

      May 1, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • YeahRight

      "God is what he is. He created the wordly presence that we know, created every bit of science, created every law. "

      Yeah and based on your book he also screwed up a few times but seeing as the bible has been proven not to be an historical document, I am going to stick with science. By the way, if Noah had to get two of every animal on the planet that means it he would have had to have close to 2 million animals on his boat. He would have had to travel the globe capturing them and then store enough food for all of them. What is so funny is even today with all our machinery we couldn't build something that big let alone get it to float with all that weight. LMAO!

      May 1, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • momoya

      @ Doug

      LOL!! I'm lost?!?!? You know so little about evolution that you wind up making fun of yourself when you try to make fun of it.. LOL!!! Keep posting, moron.

      Yes, science changes to new data, it doesn't claim that if you tilt your head sideways and read the new information "with the spirit" it magically still makes sense.. You don't even realize how completely stupid you're being.. LOL!

      May 1, 2012 at 11:13 am |
  13. Voice of Reason

    Why do men have nip-ples?

    May 1, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • momoya

      Or genes for gills, or an appendix or other vestigial organs.. Hmm.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • *facepalm*

      Come on people, we obviously have an appendix because god has a very sadistic sense of humor. Same goes for the nips

      May 1, 2012 at 10:44 am |
  14. Scott Wallace

    When will people realize that the Bible is not the word of God. It's what man thinks the word of God should be. Wake up you so called Christians.

    May 1, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • Doug

      The bible was written through the Holy Spirit.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • *facepalm*

      @Doug – was the Holy Spirit wearing a muzzle? Or drunk? I mean, couldn't the spirit have been a wee bit clearer in the message it was trying to convey?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • momoya

      I've always been told by christians that the bible was written by man but inspired by the holy spirit.. You must not be a christian, I guess.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Doug

      @facepalm: The message is very clear, If you sit and read the bible it will make sense. If you don't sit and study the bible its like watching a clip of a movie and trying to understand and say you know the whole movie.

      @momoya: Yes it was written by man's hand through the Holy Spirit. Everything in the book is perfect, it is signed off and approved by God.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Jacob

      If "waking up" means being miserably bitter like Mr. Wallace, I'll be happy to stay asleep and worship Christ my Lord! (It's just like a dream, only real!)

      "*facepalm*"
      Your name maybe betrays that you haven't quite grown up in life. (Usually only people who are adolescent or have an adolescent mindset would appreciate the idea of putting their palm over someone's face–an insecure and juvenile attempt at showing dominance.)

      But to your point, how boring would life be if God made it easy? (It's infinitely more difficult to understand why evil exists than why God made things difficult–duh, it makes us stronger.) If you're not a big fan of intellectualism and you don't like to think things through, then that's why God summarized his entire morality with ten easy rules for you! It's that simple. (Google "Ten Commandments" in case you've never heard of them.)

      May 1, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • YeahRight

      "Yes it was written by man's hand through the Holy Spirit. Everything in the book is perfect, it is signed off and approved by God."

      LMAO! You have absolutely no proof of that. LOL!

      May 1, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • *facepalm*

      @Doug – I have read the bible. If the bible is so amazingly clear, why are there multiple translations and many thousands of different brands of christianity. Obviously there's a LOT of people out there who think your 'clear' understanding of the book is totally wrong. Why are you so self-absorbed to think that you are correct and billions of other people are wrong?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • YeahRight

      "But to your point, how boring would life be if God made it easy? "

      LMAO! So only 33% of the people on this planet believe in your god and many of those don't truly follow the teachings. That means that roughly 70% of the people on this planet are going to burn in hell for all eternity because they don't believe in YOUR god. That's over 4 billion people that your god is going to torture, now that is a monster and doesn't deserve to be worshiped!

      May 1, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • *facepalm*

      @Jacob – ten rules? Wait, so you haven't read your bible? Because there's well over 600 rules in the OT alone. Why are you limiting the entire OT to just a few verses in a single chapter in a single book?

      And, genius, the facepalm refers to putting one's palm over one's own face when confronted with someone else's utter stupidity. By nice attempt at an insult. Very xtian of you. I'm sure your god would be proud.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • @youignantdotcom

      "Yes it was written by man's hand through the Holy Spirit. Everything in the book is perfect, it is signed off and approved by God."

      LOL yeah all according to the people who were writing the bible. Dont you see a problem with that? Humans are the most conniving species we know of and you want to believe it when the writers of the bible tell you they were inspired by god?

      I got 20 acres of beach front property in Arizona to sell you.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:14 am |
    • momoya

      And really, the "Ten Commandments" really aren't.. The only place the bible says, "The Ten Commandments" is in a whole different section of Leviticus with an entirely different list of ten rules.. Silly Christians, they don't even know that their being inconsistent.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Doug
      Which translation of the Bible is God's TRUE word?
      Or perhaps you read ancient Greek and don't need translations?
      How can the Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash, New Testament, Quran, Sunnah, Nahjul Balagha, Avesta, Vedas, Upanisahds, Bhagavad Gita, Puranas, Tantras, Sutras, Vachanas, Adi Granth, Purvas, Samayasara, Niyamasara, Pravacanasara, and Pancastikaya; Anupreksa; Samadhishataka of Pujyapada; Tattvarthasutra of Umasvati, Tattvarthasutra, Pali Tripitaka, Jataka,, Visuddimagga, Tripitaka, Lotus Sutra, Garland Sutra, Analects; the Great Learning; the Doctrine of the Mean; the Mencius, Tao Te Ching, Chuang-tzu, Kojiki, Nihon Shoki, K-oki, Ofudesaki, Mikagura-uta, Michi-no-Shiori, Johrei, Goseigen, Netarean Shower of Holy Doctrines, Chun Boo Kyung, Kitab-i-Iqan, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, Book of Mormon, Dianetics, or Revelation X be dismissed as Holy Books since they all claim to be The Truth?

      May 1, 2012 at 11:19 am |
  15. Germain

    Never trust a man who puts his penis in another man's rectum.

    May 1, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • momoya

      Sure, because as soon as he does that a little switch in the man's brain flips and all his words are lies from then on until he dies..

      LOL!!!

      May 1, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • jk105

      My experience is that you can trust them with condoms. Sorry your experiences have been different. Try condoms.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • Primewonk

      But you can still trust us guys who put our penises in a woman's rectum, right?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • momoya

      I think it's the male rectum only that carries the invisible mechanism that travels up the man's pe.nis and into his brain and causes him to lie forevermore.. Let's stick with the proven science, here.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Root post by 'Germain' is an instance of the circu-mstantial ad hominem fallacy.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      May 1, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • jimtanker

      So you're saying that you cant trust a Catholic priest? Sounds ligit to me.

      May 1, 2012 at 11:05 am |
  16. n8263

    Do these students walk out of Biology when the chapter about Evolution comes up? Or out of Earth Science when they learn there was never a world wide flood while humans have roamed the planet? What did they do when they found out there was no Santa Claus?

    It is nice to know these students were a small minority.

    May 1, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Casper

      Such 'brave' people betting against the existence of God. I'm still searching for the upside of their wager. A soothed ego?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • jk105

      Actually I am a Christian who believe in equality for gays. That's the upside.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • EnjaySea

      Well, Casper, that fact that you think believing or not believing in a god is either a "good wager", or a "bad wager" tells the whole story right there. I choose to believe in that which has been proven, which is why I don't bother "throwing the dice" to see if I believe or don't believe in god.

      Show me proof one way or the other, and I'll be right with you. But if you only believe because you're afraid not to, then no thanks. I'll wait until there's a more compelling reason to believe.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • joe christian

      It’s too bad that none of the Christian students didn’t go up on stage and confront the idiot who was bullying people at an anti bullying seminar.

      STUPID LIBERALS, RIGHTS ARE FOR EVERYBODY!

      May 1, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'joe christian' is an instance of the ad hominem fallacy.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      May 1, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • jk105

      "Rights are for everybody"
      So you believe in marriage equality for gays? Good to know. Because the blubbering students don't. Therefore they don't believe that rights are for everybody.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • Hinge

      Your an idiot

      May 1, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • julia slagle

      Hypocrites of a feather, flock together.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • momoya

      Usually we call it "church."

      May 1, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • TR6

      @Casper:”Such 'brave' people betting against the existence of God. I'm still searching for the upside of their wager. A soothed ego?”

      Truth, is the upside. You should try it some time, it’s very freeing

      May 1, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  17. Lee

    Why isn't anyone addressing the content of his message? Instead of saying you are offended by a bad word (grow up already) why not stop and think about why people cherry pick the parts in the Bible about gay people and not the bits about shellfish, wearing two fabrics, or stoning non-virgin brides?

    May 1, 2012 at 9:58 am |
  18. Greg

    Isn't it amazing that the idiots that are supposedly the most "tolerant" are exactly the opposite. Hypocrite moron.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:56 am |
  19. BarrysHypocrisy

    Come on guys, haven't you figured it out yet? The "progressives" are allowed to say whatever hateful things they want and do whatever hypocritical things they want, because in their minds, they are somehow 'better" than the rest of us........

    May 1, 2012 at 9:54 am |
    • jk105

      What we have figured out is that when we take the Bible away from those who use it as a weapon to hurt gays and turn it on the Right Wing Religionists, they flee like blubbering fools.

      May 1, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • sam stone

      "because in their minds, they are somehow 'better" than the rest of us"

      like those who claim to speak for god?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:08 am |
    • sam stone

      "God will deal with him."

      "he tries to manipulate all of us with a bullying and demeaning approach."

      as opposed to your empty proxy threats?

      May 1, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • n8263

      The truth is the Bible has a lot of bullshit. How is stating the truth hateful?

      I do not hate Christians. I do not hate the Bible. I do not hate the Christian god, in fact I do not think it exists. None the less the truth is that the Bible is mostly bullshit. Just because I do not sugar coat it does not mean it is hateful.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • momoya

      @Barry

      When a guy is talking to a group of christians who don't follow some parts of their bible already, why is it wrong to point that out and ask that another part be included in this category christians have made for verses they don't wish to follow?

      thanks.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • TR6

      George Bush Sr., when President, said Atheists are not patriotic, and should not be considered citizens

      May 1, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  20. John Gersper

    Let's all just get along and agree this guy is a Christophobe..Those poor kids didn't do anything to him but not want to hear his liberal drivel..If he doesn't believe, God will deal with him. I understand it is inconvenient for him that he has a lifestyle that is inconsistent with church teachings so he tries to manipulate all of us with a bullying and demeaning approach.

    May 1, 2012 at 9:49 am |
    • B.Q.M.

      Here! Here! Couldn't agree with you more.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • momoya

      So what you're really saying is "Let's all get along by allowing me and other christians to be completely bigoted and offensive; I want to say that a g.a.y person will end up in a good god's eternal, fiery torture pit, but I don't want that guy to say anything back about how I don't follow all the commands in the bible such as sla.very and ki.ll.ing children who make mistakes."

      Got it.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    • myweightinwords

      I don't see behavior that would lead to labeling him a "Christophobe"...I see a man who made a valid point, though his word choices and method of delivery probably lacked in tact and non-confrontational ideals.

      I don't see hatred, I see frustration and anger, but not hatred. He makes a valid point about those who would bully LGBT folks because of religious reasons, but do not hold to all of the tenants of that faith that they claim.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Root post by 'John Gersper' contains instances of the ad hominem fallacy and the circ-umstantial ad hominem fallacy, and presents a form of the flawed argument known as Pascal's Wager.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      May 1, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • LinCA

      @John Gersper

      You said, "Let's all just get along and agree this guy is a Christophobe"
      If he is a christophobe, he has very good reason to be. It's been christians that have been using their numbers to spread their message of hate. It's been christians that are trying to deny people like Dan Savage equal rights. These christians do that in name of their god, a being which is less likely to exist than Santa Claus.

      But, how about we try to get along and agree to live and let live? How about christians stop being homophobes?

      You said, "Those poor kids didn't do anything to him but not want to hear his liberal drivel."
      They apparently only want to hear conservative hate speech. They've been indoctrinated well.

      You said, "If he doesn't believe, God will deal with him."
      Non existing beings don't deal with anything. Your imaginary friend is just that, imaginary.

      You said, "I understand it is inconvenient for him that he has a lifestyle that is inconsistent with church teachings so he tries to manipulate all of us with a bullying and demeaning approach."
      No, his life style has nothing to do with your church teachings. Once your church starts minding it's own business and stops meddling in the lives of others, the lashing out against them will stop.

      While you are free to believe the complete and utter nonsense you so obviously do, you are not free to expect anyone else to be equally stupid. Whatever you think your church teaches is fine for you. You are free to choose to live by it, just don't expect anyone who is sane to do the same. Freedom of religion guarantees that whatever nonsense you believe has no bearing on what others do.

      May 1, 2012 at 10:58 am |
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