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April 30th, 2012
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Whaaaat?!?!? Did Mr. Osteen say Christianity is growing strong these days??? I can tell what his secret is, it's the feel-good message of love-only and self-fulfillment that is attracting people to him, not to Christ. There is no conviction of sin and repentance and no redeeming value in Mr. Osteen's message(s). God never promises our "best life now", but He promises in His word our best life (eternal) in His kingdom.
We can all see the opposite happening in regard to Christianity growing. And not only that, it is even prophesied in the Bible that the love for God in most people's heart will grow cold. Just take a look and read in this belief blog, where most comments are from unbelievers.
Well his secret is not the truth. This man teaches false doctrine and he is a part of the word of faith movement, along with Joyce Myers, Kenneth Hagen, and benny hinny. He teaches "what I think I should say" instead of I need to teach the truth. Matt 7:15 says to be aware of false prophets which come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly they are ravening wolfs. Also he does not reveal what they teach concerning salvation. he teaches just by allowing Christ into your heart you are save, and the way you do that is by saying the sinners prayer, if there is a sinners prayer which there is not show me where in the Bible it is. Mark 16:16 “he that believes and is baptized shall be saved but he that believes not shall be damned." 1st Peter 3:21 " the like figure where unto baptism doth now also SAVE us not the putting away of the flesh but the answer of a good conscience toward God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." so not by faith alone are we save because faith cannot save alone and it does not exclude baptism which saves, some say it is an outward showing of an inward change. Well show me in the Bible where it says that. When we look in Acts 2:38 there were some things Peter said that we should look at 1. Repent 2. Be baptized FOR the REMISSION of your SINS. in order for one to be save you must first Hear Rom 10:17, Believe that Christ is the Son of the living God, Confess with your mouth Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God. And be Baptized for the remission of your sins Mark 16:16, 1st Peter 3:21, Gal 3:26-27, Acts 2:38. There is no reason for this "man" to teach false teachings to hundreds of people. And all I am doing is giving book chapter and verse. If there is anything that you believe that I have said to be false please comment and or add you’re thought on anything.
prayer changes things..
-Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
Just because of all the hate mail he can't be all bad. If he could just refuse some of the money.
'joel oes not have a high school diploma or any former training?" this is awesome as good as he is. Only God can get the glory for what he knows abd says. reminds me of another great teacher, namely Jesus. Way to go Joel.
Joel is handing you a towel to wipe his juice off your lips.
Oh, please. The number of people that can spout off ridiculous religious babble are a dime a dozen. Driven by the almighty dollar and to control as many as they can. So old. So very old.
Joel is a good man...bash him for his thoughts...shame on you...No one is perfect or free of sin....hOw can you bash which a good man....
What's Joel Osteen's secret?
He can't hold a secret.. He is transparent, and those who have the Spirit of God see right through him. He loves the praise of the world, like many Christians do today who fear speaking the truth.
But God says that the fearful will be cast into the lake of fire together with all the ungodly, because they did not love the truth more then their life, to stand for it in spite of persecution. Therefore each one of us must examine ourselves where we really stand!
This is God's Word, and this is His justice. He is the Lord!
Modern courts are way past using torture as a means of punishment, but apparently your nasty sky fairy thinks its just fine.
Wow, the junk that you believe. Horrid stuff. Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes your sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.
Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.
And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations, and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.
So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.
Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
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You know what, Bob....
You can harp all you want to how "my sky fairy" is outdated, cruel and nasty, but you KNOW in the depth of your soul that one day you will face Jesus Christ. He said " I am the Way, the Truth and Life".
If you don't like what the Bible says about God, you'll have your chance to present your case against Him. But without Jesus Christ, you are lost, brother, just plain, simply LOST.
God is not torture- happy, or else He would have left us, wretched humanity to rot in our own misery, not caring what happens with our souls in Eternity.
But He sent Jesus , His Son for you and me, so that by putting faith in Him, and so being clothed in His righteousness we would be saved and not perish! No blood of bulls or goats could do it, but the blood of sinless Lamb provided by God Himself, so that there is NO MORE blood sacrifice. You don't understand that, do you, or you don't want to understand it ..... You are bitter, and you are full of gain green, and you twist everything you know about God.
But one thing stands, and you need to understand, that if God didn't do anything else for us wretched mankind, but save our hides from going into that place of the damned called Hell, it would have been more then we could have ever thank Him for throughout all eternity...Do you understand that, Bob, do you?!
And if you don't get anything else out of things I said, I hope you get this: If you could grasp the depth of suffering and what it took for God to give so that we would be saved, then you would understand WHY it is nothing short of JUSTICE that those who willfully reject His offer of salvation would be eternally separated from Him.
There is no middle ground with God. Either with Him or against Him. There is only eternity with Him, or with Satan, who is the father of lies, and who is the father of all those who reject Jesus Christ. Why is this so hard to understand?
I believe Americans are in great disadvantage comparing to people from other cultures and nations, because of the spirit of Pride that is ingrained in them. And Pride can and does damn many souls..... In many ways those poor, trodden down people of other countries which are her looked down on, have much more open hearts toward God, because they see their need for Him. And He reaches down to them in mercy and grace. Those people see many miracles in their lives, becaue God makes Himself real to them. But here, the overfed , proud , co'cky brats are full of themselves. The only time they get humble is when tragedy happens. SO, maybe that's' what's gonna take, so that perhaps God may reach them while they crawl low, that He may save their miserable souls....
But your lashing out against God and saying things you know yourself are not so, won't help you to get yourself out of your dark hole you are in, my friend!
Look up, someone really loves you, and knows where you are, and wants to reach out to you..... just don't be like a stiff-necked mule, kicking against your Creator who sent you hope in Person of Christ, and wants to take you out of your hole you're trapped in! No need to pretend with Him, He knows your innermost thoughts and need in your life. But whether you accept His offer or reject, you still will have to face Him, as well as everyone else!
Good night!
THE REAL STORY:
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
He did not finish high school and does not have the education to be a priest/pastor. He is a fraud.
Well,, some pastors need extra training in how to push their god frauds, but Osteen is a natural at it. But that hair, that hair. That's not natural. That's from Exxon, bunker stuff.
Jesus didn't graduate either.
He is all about money and that's all he talks about. He said God wants him to be rich. He is a fake.
American Protestantism is consistently a defense of middle class values. he is cutting to the chase.
He is a scam. He and his wife is living the good life off of other people's money. He is all about money. He says the same thing all the time and is praying on people who are seeking answers to their troubled life.
You mean "preying", but yeah, he's pretty much like every other religion pusher (televangelist). It's a proven recipe for taking money from the stupid. His hair just holds more grease than that of most of the others.
Prayer changes things.
its amazing the amount of hate and jealousy shown by the atheists and their fellow loons and America haters
~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
I watched Joey one morning for laughs. He talked for a half hour about how money was Christian. Then he asked me to send him some.
The trouble is that one day when we are old and grey and dimensia sets in that message may well resonate. And then we are out our pensions. Which is white televangelism should NOT be a viable profession.
rofl
Anyone who blinks like that is typically a liar...
That was the first think I noticed when I saw him the first time. I thought to myself.....he is a terrible liar. But apparently he is not terrible at it because people still send him money and by his propaganda. lol
What's Joel Osteen's secret? Dense followers.
Old and infirm; that's the general secret to celebrity evangelism.
whats obama's secret? The worship by the stooopid/loons/America haters
Just sayin Atheism is HeavenSent Herbie In God We Trust Prayer Changes Captain America Jack Kennedy? nope