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Billy Graham says that he "never thought we would have to debate the definition of marriage."
May 3rd, 2012
11:49 AM ET

Billy Graham backs North Carolina amendment to ban gay marriage

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)– The Rev. Billy Graham, the world's best-known evangelist, has endorsed a ballot initiative to constitutionally ban gay marriage in his home state of North Carolina, a rare move for a preacher who has typically avoided political fights.

North Carolinians will vote on the state's Marriage Amendment Act before North Carolina voters next Tuesday.

Voters will decide whether to amend the state constitution to say that "Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State."

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North Carolina already bans same-sex marriages. The amendment would effectively ban civil unions and domestic partnerships, too.

Graham is taking out full-page ads in 14 North Carolina newspapers touting his support for the measure. His website he encourages churches to download a poster that bears his image and the message "Vote for Marriage May 8th."

“Watching the moral decline of our country causes me great concern," the 93-year-old pastor, who has prayed with every president since Dwight Eisenhower, said in a statement on the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association website. "I believe the home and marriage is the foundation of our society and must be protected.”

The statement continued to say that Graham "never thought we would have to debate the definition of marriage."

Graham's newspaper ad will say: "The Bible is clear—God’s definition of marriage is between a man and a woman. I want to urge my fellow North Carolinians to vote for the marriage amendment on Tuesday, May 8. God bless you as you vote.”

The bill proposing the amendment says only a simple majority of votes is needed for the amendment to pass.

Supporters of the amendment hailed Graham's endorsement.

"Reverend Graham understands that we as North Carolinians have a duty to preserve God’s first institution–marriage," said Tami Fitzgerald, Chairwoman of Vote FOR Marriage NC,  a group supporting the measure, in a statement. "We cannot be silent as activists work to radically redefine marriage—an institution that has been fundamental to our civilization for thousands of years.”

Opponents of the amendment lamented the move.

“While we were disappointed to see his endorsement it doesn’t change much,” said Paul Guequierre a spokesman for the Coalition to Protect North Carolina Families. The coalition, which includes pastors from across the theological spectrum, opposes the amendment. “We have respect for (Graham) but we will continue to work with our clergy on this.”

“People across the country support LGBT equality,” Guequierre said, adding his group was cautiously optimistic about the vote on Tuesday.

While Graham may be an internationally known figure, his influence in North Carolina may be even larger. Charlotte is home to the Billy Graham Parkway. When the Billy Graham Library opened in Charlotte in 2007, Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush and Jimmy Carter came for the opening ceremony.

Graham's son Franklin Graham and daughter Anne Graham Lotz have both voiced support for the amendment and both have taken political stands in the past, in contrast to their father.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Billy Graham • Christianity • Gay marriage • Gay rights • Politics

soundoff (2,998 Responses)
  1. Hmmm...

    So much for a secular society.

    May 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
  2. robert

    next he will endores mitt romney

    May 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
  3. Ry Asa

    The principles of religion help carve greater people, not PERSECUTE them for PREFERENCE. Any man can have the freedom to do what he wants. I'd like for any doubters to say a person cannot control is actions. We are biologically programmed to make decisions EVERY SECOND OF OUR LIVES. If it's in our DNA (which by Chrisitan beliefs all man was made by god) why would he design us to even possibly commit such a "travesty"? Why would he set people up?

    May 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      He didn't "set them up" unless you consider being given free will sets us up. Would you rather be a puppet?
      Not me. I'm thankful for the freedom to choose. The problem is found in Genesis. Adam and Eve were given a choice: obey God and live or disobey and forfeit eternal life. They listened to Satan posing as a serpent. They chose a different master (Satan). We all have the same choice. Choose God's way, redemption through Christ, or choose Satan's way – sin and eternal separation from God. Take it or leave it – everyone must choose.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Patrick

      How dumb. You'd rather risk eternal torture left to your own devices than be a puppet and live in eternal bliss? I'd rather be a puppet. So would most people if those are the two possible outcomes.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • terri

      Patrick, you better go back and re-read the Bible. There is nothing puppet-like about God or those who choose to follow him. However, those who refuse to see the truth are referred to as "blind".

      May 3, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      I'd rather be a puppet than to be thrown into a Hunger Games scenario by a god who says he loves me, and then punished along with the rest of humanity, by virtue of being BORN after a naked chick who ate an apple on the advice of a talking snake with hands.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      I'd rather be a puppet than to be thrown into a Hunger Games scenario by a god who says he loves me, and then punished along with the rest of humanity, by virtue of being BORN after a naked chick who ate an apple on the advice of a talking snake with hands.

      And yes, he did "set them up." there's a legal doctrine to describe what God did- in Torts, called the Doctrine of Dangerous Instrumentality- aka the Attractive Nuisance Doctrine. read about it.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Poor Patrick. Doomed to be a puppet by his own choice. Except he didn't have a choice; the notion of "free will" in connection with an omniscient and omnipotent God is sheer lunacy. If "God" knew since the beginning of time what you were going to do in every second of your life, then your whole life was set before you were born and the idea that you ever had any choice is laughable.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • ReadJC

      @IT Comes the earth is older then 6000 years. Jesus replaced the old covenant with a new one.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
  4. Solitairedog

    NC will not thank him for his advice if the amendment passes. It's a little stinkbomb of an amendment and it will soon backfire on those whose only real intent is to punish gays for being gay.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • terri

      Gays are like energizer bunnies, they keep fighting and fighting and fighting (for the right to do what they want). There's only one problem. In the Bible, it says that the man (or woman) who remains "stiff-necked" after many rebukes will be destroyed without remedy. This is a situation where winning becomes losing.

      Do you really want to be like a two year old child who breaks free of his father's grasp only to be hit by a car?

      May 3, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      The Babble is only relavent to those that belong to cults that use it as their rule book. It has no power over anyone else and anyone who says the law for everyone should be the same as what The Babble says is wrong. Of course, if you can prove your god actually exists, then maybe I am wrong...

      May 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
  5. It comes down to this...

    Sarah Chang – you are absolutely right when you say I have no problem with God's judgement of mankind. And I am thrilled with His plan of redemption through Jesus Christ!

    May 3, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      good- you're on the right team them. As a result, to the rest of us, you're a frightening, heartless person who exemplifies none of the love of Christ you would hope others see in you.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Motrek

      Sarah Chang, based on your Master's in Theology, what is the love of Christ?

      May 3, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      Unfair question Motrek- you're assuming that I still follow Christianity, which I do not, and thus do not believe in the goodness or "love" of Christ. Unless you want a straightforward, textbook definition of "the love of Christ" which I'd be happy to give you, but would be fruitless regarding your train of questioning.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      Motrek- sorry, please disregard the last quote- my computer didn't show the context. i'll respond to your question in just a sec.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Burgerneal

      Sarah Chang...perhaps your issue is that you only know of a text book definition of the love of Chirst.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Motrek

      Sarah Chang, why don't you let God prove himself to you scientifically? Is it a matter of you knowing he exists and hating him, or that you never met him?

      May 3, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      Motrek- what i meant by "the love of Christ" is the amorphous concept that "it comes down to this..." seems to ascribe to that people will convert to follow Jesus by witnessing the love of Christ in his followers. I am questioning how anyone can claim to have "christ's love" (sacrificial, accepting, caring, kind) while worshipping a god who condones slavery, genocide, infanticide, and treating women as 2nd class citz, among other things. "it comes down to this..." just stated that it is possible, and I disagree, HOWEVER you define the love of Christ.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      Motrek- it's not a matter of either knowing he exists and hating him or that I never met him. I do believe in and have a relationship with God, just not the God of the Bible. And I have absolutely no problem exposing the hatred and lies of people claiming to follow the God of the Bible.

      Burgerneal- your assumption is unfounded, fatuous, and absolutely wrong. Don't go down that path with me. You've been warned.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      No Sarah, not on your team.
      If there were 10 boys beating the hell out of a child and God stepped in and wiped them out would He be justified? If there were 10 little children beating an old lady to death and God struck them down would He be justified? If there was a nation of wicked citizens and God told a group of people to wipe them out would He be justified? When an evil dictator rises up and tries to annihilate a race of people and others fight for that race are they justified?
      What don't you understand about justice?

      May 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      No, the question is what don't YOU understand about justice, "it comes down to this..."?

      If there was a group of kids making fun of a bald man in town, and God commanded 2 large bears to come out of the woods and maul 42 of the kids to death, where would the justice be in that?

      Oh yeah, that's right, it's in 2 Kings 2:24, in the Old Testament, along with the rest of the atrocites attributed to God.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      "it comes down to this..."

      all your examples are fine and dandy except for the GLARING OMMISSIONS- the billions of people who are mistreated every day, tortured, stifled, punished, silences, and oppressed, who your "god" never bothered once to intervene and bring justice to.

      Where, oh where, is the justice in that?

      And btw, quit trying to act snarky and smart. I never said you were on "my team" only that you were on THE team of the god of the Old Testament, which apparently you are.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      "it comes down to this..."

      all your examples are fine and dandy except for the GLARING and many ommissions- the billions of people who are mistreated every day, tortured, stifled, punished, silences, and oppressed, who your "god" never bothered once to intervene and bring justice to.

      Where, oh where, is the justice in that?

      And btw, quit trying to act snarky and smart. I never said you were on "my team" only that you were on THE team of the god of the Old Testament, which apparently you are.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      And to answer your beautifully illogical statements:

      If there were 10 boys beating the hell (gasp! a bad word!) out of a child and God stepped in and wiped them out would He be justified? YES, if GOD did it, why not?

      If there were 10 little children beating an old lady to death and God struck them down would He be justified? SURE.

      If there was a nation of wicked citizens and God told a group of people to wipe them out would He be justified?

      Absolutely not, because that is EXACTLY what Al Qaeda believes, and the line would never be drawn as to what God commanded or did not truly command. If God wiped them out himself, sure, justified, why not?

      When an evil dictator rises up and tries to annihilate a race of people and others fight for that race are they justified?

      NOPE, again. See above.

      What don't YOU understand about justice?

      May 3, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Motrek

      Sarah Chang, I suppose if we cannot accept the God of the Bible's evaluation of his creation, we can't accept what he has done or why he did it. We've got to accept the whole thing because the pieces seen by themselves come across as pointless and obscenely cruel. Conversely, if God were to show you that he is doing things today according to what he has promised, wouldn't that tend to add validity to the reasons for which he did things in the past?

      Does the God you believe in today give you any promises by which you can prove in tangible ways that he exists? The God of the OT and NT still does.

      I wish I could talk to you more about this but I've got to go now. Best regards.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      Motrek- I disagree with you about the God of the OT and NT showing in tangible ways that he exists, but I appreciate your decency and honesty. The God I worship does just as much as yours does to prove his existence tangible today. Best regards to you too.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      @Sarah Chang -In response to justice and stepping in to help those who are threatened with annihlate : Proverbs 24:11-12 Rescue those being led away to death;   hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
      If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,” does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
      Your argument is with a just God but you and your teachers think you are smarter than God. I don't think so, rather, I know you are not.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      you are condescending, ignorant, and just wrong. you understand neither me, nor the bible you profess to believe in. and such a thick skin! one would think that someone confident in their faith would have no need to constantly get in the last word on a CNN comments board, and make snide, witty comments toward her opposition rather than actually argue and debate logically...have fun in life, and never forget- you're ignorance was bought with a price!

      HAHAHA.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • ReadJC

      @IT Comes...

      That wicked nation is the Confederacy and the GOP is now its party.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • ReadJC

      You wouldn't know his plan if it hit you in the face.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
  6. Antor

    Being born gay is no different than being born with Down syndrome. It's a genetic defect, an abnormality. It's not a reason to hate someone. If you disagree, than you're saying it's a choice people make, and if that's the case then the whole situation changes.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • jerry

      being gay is not ginetic, its sinply a lifestyle people choose to live, they are simply being decieved

      May 3, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • ReadJC

      It is not a sickness at all, but a gift from god.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Antor

      I'm being serious here. It's either a genetic defect or a lifestyle choice. Has to be one or the other.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • terri

      You are not very informed about the world of gays. They actively recruit others to join their cause......

      May 3, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Gays do not recruit others to become gay because it is not a choice. Gays do recruit others, gay and straight, to support their righful cause for equality. If it is OK to discriminate against gays, it should be OK to discrminate against believers. Why should I, a right thinking atheist, have to hire people who believe in fairy tales and non-existent supernatural beings?

      May 3, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
    • Antor

      You can't prove God doesn't exist though so..
      (I'm a non christian btw and an agnostic as I accept that as a mortal I can not know for certain either way if a "God" exists or not so I just live my life treating others the way I would like to be treated)

      May 3, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      True, I cannot prove that there are no gods, but I am not making the extraordinary claim that there are gods so the burden of proof is not on me. That being said, I have said many times that saying "there are no gods" is shorthand for "the probability of there being any gods is so low (virtually zero) that to say there are no gods is not much of an exaggeration." I do not believe there are any gods but do allow that one or more may exist. No believer that I know of will admit there is a probability they are wrong because to do so would shatter their entire (faulty) belief system. If I am wrong que sera sera...

      May 4, 2012 at 12:10 am |
  7. Jesus Is Gay

    jesus washed other guys' feet and he preferred the company of men, no women in his posse, ergo he was as gay as gay can be. Deal with it.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      The fact that He washed men's feet (to make a point about being willing to humbles oneself) makes Him no more gay than the custom of men greeting each other with an embrace. Good grief, stop making up lies to support your view.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • Burgerneal

      I think you are missing the point that culturally women were not equal to men in that time.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • terri

      Your opinion has so much more weight that what the Bible actually says on the subject.....

      May 3, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      Burgerneal,

      Your statement that "I think you are missing the point that culturally women were not equal to men in that time" is frightening, dangerous, and illogical., for two reasons, at least

      A. Bl ack people were treated unequally to whites 100 years ago. If you honestly think that God would have condoned this if he had written the Bible in 1950, you are truly amazing in your ignorance.

      B. The fact that GOD did not call out an injustice or inequality among his own followers (regarding the treatment of women, children, unbelievers, and condoning slavery) just makes an even stronger case that it was not really "God" who was behind the OT, but man.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • Jesus Is Gay

      See, that's exactly what he WANTS you to believe. The EXCUSE for washing other dudes' feet is that it was a lesson about humility (we can only guess what parts jesus washed in private and off the record), but the REASON he did it, the motivating factor, is that he has a gay foot fetish. Jesus was fortunate the culture was biased against women because it was the perfect cover for him to hang out with his gay buddies and do gay stuff, like wash each other's feet and make out. The facts make it very clear, jesus is gay, which is why he is still not married to a woman but living with two other guys, god and the holy spirit. Deal with it!

      May 3, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
  8. Thank god I'm an Athiest

    Big surprise. The religious right, republicans and most uneducated individualst want to take away the rights of all citizens who don't agree with them, or believe as they do, and are willing to condemn and demonize any and all who don't. As Freud stated and I am a firm believer that religion is Mental Illness and does not benefit anyone in society except those that are afflicted. America has overdosed on religion, especially christianity. A society with one dominant religion or belief has always tried to justify discrimination, persecution, and even violence in the name of that religion and it's beliefs no matter how much it destroys the fabric of society and minorities.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • TownC

      Christianity and Christians have made America the freest most powerful country this planet has ever seen. If you don't agree with Christians then exercise your political power. Christians have a right to also exercise their political power.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • mcv57

      Lol, your comment is filled with stupidity and a very old arguement. It is not religion that caused problems for society, it was a man's own greed for power to use religion to twist the truth. You need to go back to school.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Observer

      Being "the great melting pot" has made America great. The key founding fathers who shaped our nation were mostly not Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • terri

      Your user name defies your declaration of your belief system (even if you do use a small g).

      May 3, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
  9. Victoria H.

    The fact of the matter is, is that you non christians want to believe that every "Christian" on this planet is here to judge you. When in reality, the Bible is constantly teaching love. As a christian myself, I don't judge anyone, because I am not a jury, and it's not up to me if you get off your high horse and surrender yourself to a mighty God, or remain stubborn and not open your hearts(: Until then I pray for every soul that WANTS to believe that us Christians are damning you to hell and hiporcrits.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • ReadJC

      Jesus Christ called the religious right of his day, the pharises, HYPOCRITE. Graham and his religious right Anti-Christ GANG are nothing but a bunch of Hypocrites.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • Observer

      Victoria,

      Since you don't judge anyone, do you support equal rights for all Americans?

      May 3, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Woof78

      To embrace religion, Jesus and God is the same as embracing ignorance, intolerance and persecution. The only way for evil to go is for God to go. Dump God, have faith in Good.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • John of Indiana

      Another one of those "RealChristians" who never read that bloody book she professes to follow.
      Go ahead, sit down and really READ the bible. Cover to cover, and if you're not an atheist by the time you get to the Revelation of John (no relation) then you must be as dense as oak.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • terri

      It is really quite amazing to read the comments by those who claim that Christians are bigoted and hateful. It seems the accusers are the guilty ones, in more ways than one......

      May 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Nevermind

      Victoria (and Terri): Those of us who do not share your belief system do not "all" condemn Christians or believe that you are all here to judge us, though some of you are clearly doing just that. Instead, we only want you to reel in your long, blue noses from our public laws and leave us alone to live as we choose, not as you think is the correct way. All I have seen here today are religious people quoting a sacred text in which you believe, but in which I do not, as though it were an agreed upon final arbiter of all things. It is not, and thank goodness the founders of this country, most of whome WERE religious men, realized that there could never be uniform consonance in government if religion, with all it's disparity were allowed to intrude. They believed it important to shield their privately held beliefs from being overwhelmed by some future majority of a particular faith because they understood what harm could come from that. Go back to your churches and pray. I am all for that. But keep your religious philosophy out of the rule of public law which must be shared with everyone, even those whom you believe are going to perdition.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
  10. Wholly Mary

    Time for BillyGoat to meet his "maker".

    May 3, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • George

      He's ready...Are you???

      May 3, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • Burgerneal

      Who is the hate monger here? Don't throw stones at glass houses.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
  11. William Watts

    Maybe the Parkway should be renamed the Bigot Graham Parkway. Franklin has already proven himself to be a hate monger / seller and Billy kept urging the civil rights movement to go slower (yes I know he only preached in integrated places but really what does a BG crusade have to do with life?).

    May 3, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
  12. John

    Billy Graham at this point in history is just an old fart who has outlived his relevance in history. Just another red neck North Carolinian who needs to realize that love can be had between someone other than you and your favorite NASCAR driver or your cousin/sister/mother.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
  13. Bob

    FACT ~500 BC Roman Republic established which eventually becomes the Roman Empire. The majority religion at this time is Paganism.
    FACT Pagan Rome openly and commonly practiced hom ose xua lity .
    FACT 380 AD the Roman Empire adopts Christianity as its official religion.
    FACT 476 AD the Roman Empire collapes after nearly a thousands years and just 96 years as a Christian Country.

    Roman Empire failed? Actually it failed 96 years after converting from Paganism to Christianity. We must ban Christianity for the salvation of our Secular Republic.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • terri

      Fact. That kind of logic is why God had to destroy Sodom.....

      May 3, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • ReadJC

      God didn't destroy Sod dom & Gom mor rah for hom ose xuality. He destroyed it for greed and lack of hospitality.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
  14. BethTX

    If gays don't have the right to live as they want, I say neither should you, Billy. Die already, you relic.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      Gays have the right to live as they want but not change the definition of marriage. They are the ones that want people to accept what people don't believe is acceptable. Yeah, live and let live and stop trying to force the gay lifestyle as acceptable. Christians believe it is a sinful lifestyle just like most people believe having s ex with a minor is sin (and it is).

      May 3, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • ReadJC

      Christians have no right to change the legal definition of anything that is for our secular government.
      Second Christians are wrong, Christ never said anything about hom ose xuality
      Marriage is NOT a Christian invention, they DO NOT own it.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • Madtown

      Christians believe it is a sinful lifestyle
      ---–
      Yeah, that's the problem, as God built them to live that lifestyle. God made them that way, and it's not up to you to judge.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • Observer

      It comes down to this...,

      Since you support the Bible, do you also support slavery, discrimination against women and discrimination against the handicapped? Or do you just pick-and-choose?

      May 3, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      It comes down to this...

      I've got to say- the way you reason through things is amazing. Please don't forget the scene in Gen esis when God sent his angels to rescue lot from So d om and G om orrah (which God planned to dest roy because it was hom o se xual), then the angels were totally cool when Lot gave his vir g in daughters to be ra ped and ki lled by the "hom ose xual" men in So dom. Don't forget that part, bro. And don't you dare say I'm taking it out of context, or I'll start quoting bible verses at you.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      ReadJC – Christians are not the ones trying to change it, gays are.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      Sarah – Where does it say the angels were totally cool about it?
      So you can quote scripture, that doesn't mean you understand it.
      BTW, I'm a woman.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      "it comes down to this..." your arrogance will be your undoing. It is clear that they "were cool with it" because they did nothing to prevent or stop it. as angels, it would have been simple to stop it from occurring, but they stood by and let Lot offer them his hospitality.

      I'm afraid you can neither quote scripture nor understand it. But it sure is fun watching you try!

      May 3, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      "it comes down to this..." your arrogance will be your undoing. It is clear that they "were cool with it" because they did nothing to prevent or stop it. as angels, it would have been simple to stop it from occurring, but they just stood by and let Lot offer them his hospitality.

      I'm afraid you can neither quote scripture nor understand it. But it sure is fun watching you try!

      May 3, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
    • ReadJC

      @IT Comes....

      Christians have been lying about the word of Christ for centuries. You have already changed it we are just trying to fix it.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
  15. Kyle

    so Christians want every one to live by their beliefs.... well guess what, not every one is christian.. you religious folks don't want to live by other people's beliefs, well us non religious dont want to live by YOUR beliefs... and if i go to hell, what the hell is it to you?!

    May 3, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Erik

      exactly

      May 3, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • BethTX

      Fake Christians like this guy don't care about your soul. All they care about is controlling you in life.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Kyle

      well they wouldn't be controlling me, im quite content as a straight male, but im quite content to fight for what is right, and for the rights of family and friends who are not straight

      May 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Burgerneal

      God has given you free chice in what you want to believe. If you want to go to hell then that makes me sad.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • terri

      Yes. We should stop celebrating people who risk their lives to save others from burning buildings, wrecked cars, mudslides, etc because no one should care about anyone else.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • Nevermind

      yes, minding your own business = letting people burn up in a fire. How ridiculous.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
  16. Meki60

    are you sure he knew what he was endorsing, I'm not convinced from the pic.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
  17. Aristocles

    The fact that so many people are so mad is because Billy Graham is so powerful and because this bill has a better than good chance of passing now, even without the endorsements from his son and daughter, even without the advertisements with Billy Graham's name on them in 14 North Carolina newspapers.

    That, and passage of the amendment in North Carolina not only adds a 32nd victory for these amendments, but gives momentum to the similar amendment in Minnesota later this year.

    If there is an inevitability, it is that the voters in most if not all states oppose gay "marriage", no matter what the media says, or what statistics they produce. Even California voted against gay "marriage", along with other big states, such as Texas and Florida, and bellwethers such as Ohio and Missouri. While gay "marriage" advances in a few states because of judges (like Iowa) or the questionable actions of state legislators (like New York State), the people do not want it.

    Now, should people be allowed to vote on it? If you call yourself a democrat and mean it, yes. Will elections always produce the "correct result"? No, but that's democracy for you. If you don't like it, you can go to Europe, where bureaucrats and judges are the order of the day, but America is about the people, not the courts.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Observer

      Polls show that the MAJORITY of Americans now support gay marriage.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • gadflie

      You should try reading the history of the Bill of Rights sometime. Did you know that the express reason it was written was to protect the rights of the minority from the will (vote) of the majority. I suspect that this is news to you.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • Bob

      The US Supreme Court will likely overturn Prop8, DOMA, and all these other measures when it gets both cases next year.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      @Observer
      That is a lie. Unless you are talking about a poll you just did with 10 Americans who are gay.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • ReadJC

      @It Comes. The last four polls show majority support for marriage equality, including a poll from FoxNews, Pew, Pew-Hispanic, ABC News, CNN.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Nevermind

      Gadflie is absolutely right. Most of you would vote against the Bill of Rights if it came up for a vote, except for the 2nd Amendment.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
  18. Kyle

    The bible is clear..... A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.
    (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)....... clearly wrong...

    May 3, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      Yet another bible quoter who takes something out of the old testament and has no clue what the NT says.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • Kyle

      no, just some one who doesnt care to follow what it says... and if i go to hell what is it to you?

      May 3, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • Meki60

      boy, that is too far out, I hope you do my mix with the public. What is a 'virgin', is that a race?

      May 3, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • gadflie

      It comes down, so, how exactly do YOU interpret that passage. And, please give your reasons.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Observer

      It comes down to this..,

      Just another Bible quoter who PRETENDS that God never said or did the things the Bible said he did. Try again.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • ReadJC

      It Comes...

      I read the bible everyday. It is not a smorgasbord you can pick and choose from. But the important thing is that for Christians really only the word of Christ matters and he never said anything about hom ose xua lity.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
    • Darryl

      I wish I had written Deutronomy and Leviticus. I can think up some GREAT bizarre crimes and appropriately freakish punishments.

      "And for spelling poorly in God's name, Yahweh is angered yet again and commands you to instantly be put in a large catapult and be flung willy-nilly across the desert and over the fig tree that will so piss off my son that he will kill it, and you shall surely land is a gay disco and be made "bondage boy-toy" for weeks upon weeks." DarrylDeutronomy 2:45-51

      "And angry is God, really angry, angry a lot again, even more than a few lines ago, and the time before that, and the time before that . . . whereth was I, oh yes, for pretending to know what I think and saying really stupid things as if they are my thoughts on the matter, thou shalt surely be doomed to have thy genitals chewed off by fooul-tempered badgers, and thou shalt be shot through and through with lasers on the heads of mutant sea bass, for my love is perfect and my ways be gentle." DarrylDeutronomy 54:917-2

      May 3, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      It comes down to this...

      You are just another Bible basher who only reads the NT and forgets what's in the OT! How convenient.

      Admit it! You have absolutely NO PROBLEM with what it SAYS in the OT, you just don't think it applies today! Ladies and gentlemen, here is an individual who has no problem believing in a god that orders gen ocide, infanti cide, condones slav ery, ra pe, and ki lls millions of people just because some na ked chick ate an apple on the advice of a talking snake with hands!

      Get the tar and feather ready.

      Get real.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Meki60

      Obama has some personal opinions about h 0 m 0 s, ask him

      May 3, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • terri

      Kyle, I wonder if you would feel the same way if you find yourself in a life-threatening situation, such as a car accident or about to fall from a cliff? Would you really want a person standing nearby to do nothing?

      May 3, 2012 at 10:45 pm |
    • ReadJC

      "The gate to heaven shall not open for anyone with hate in their hearts" - Jesus Christ.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
  19. scoobster

    the problem is, people don't want to hear when they are doing something wrong. people want to 'live and let live' and not to have anyone judge them or show some sort of moral obligation to a higher power.

    no one wants to believe that there is someone out there who is actually going to judge their behavior and ask them to be held accountable for their actions..

    I GNORANCE IS BLISS

    May 3, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • Observer

      scoobster,

      If ignorance is bliss, then what is Christian hyocrisy?

      May 3, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • It comes down to this...

      Bliss until they end up in hell. Try to give them fair warning and some of them get bent out of shape. Guess that's why Jesus said, "shake the dust off" and move on.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • I am God

      As an Atheist I don't believe in God, because why has he not shown himself? If he wants us to believe in him, why does he not give the human race a sign? Why stay so invisible? Why must you people create a religion to not fear death?

      May 3, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • ReadJC

      @IT Comes....

      Hom ose xuality is NOT A SIN. Christ never said anything about it.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • terri

      Observer, I have witnessed multiple incidents of hypocrisy written by gays in this blog.....And open expressions of hatred.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
    • ReadJC

      terri, "Hate begets Hate" - Jesus Christ.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Unless you can prove such hatred was unprovoked, terri, your point is moot.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
  20. Storm

    Just goes to show that anyone with a big enough mouth and enough mindless followers can become popular...

    Shouldn't this relic be preserved and archived in the Smithsonian by now? Many of us "heathens" have already accepted equality and acceptance.

    May 3, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Bible Bob, Knight of Infallibillibabbity

      The Smithsonian wouldn't take him, but the Creationist Museum will have him on display next to a dinosaur. According to the caption in the display, Billy had a pet brontosaurus in his youth.

      May 3, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • Sarah Chang

      nicely phrased. with a mouth bigger than Linda Lovelace's.

      "Ugly buildings, politicians and wh ores are all respectable when they're old enough."

      May 3, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • terri

      And it will take you all three times as long (if at all) to reach any level of respectability in your lifetimes.

      May 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Respectability"? Whose respect are you blathering about, terri? Yours? Who cares if you respect me or anyone else? You're not significant. Your respect is irrelevant and unimportant.

      I don't care if you respect anyone; in fact, dear, your "respect" would be a negative factor.

      May 3, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
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