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Obama's gay marriage support riles religious conservatives, but political effects not yet clear
President Barack Obama addressing a gay rights group in 2011.
May 9th, 2012
04:55 PM ET

Obama's gay marriage support riles religious conservatives, but political effects not yet clear

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) – U.S. President Barack Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage on Wednesday outraged conservative Christian leaders, who vowed to use it as an organizing tool in the 2012 elections, but the move is also activating the liberal base, raising big questions about who gains and loses politically.

“It cuts both ways - it activates both Democratic and Republican base voters,” said John Green, an expert on religion and politics at the University of Akron. “The most likely effect is that it makes an already close election even closer.”

In an interview with ABC News, Obama said, "At a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married."

The announcement puts Obama at odds with presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who opposes same-sex marriage and who voiced that opposition in an interview on Wednesday.

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"Considering that 10 of the 16 battleground states have marriage amendments that could be overturned by the president's new policy position on marriage, today's announcement almost ensures that marriage will again be a major issue in the presidential election,” said Tony Perkins, president of the the conservative Family Research Council.

“The president has provided a clear contrast between him and his challenger, Mitt Romney," Perkins continued. "Romney, who has signed a pledge to support a marriage protection amendment to the U.S. Constitution, may have been handed the key to social conservative support by President Obama."

Obama stressed in the interview that his support was personal and that he would leave the issue of marriage to the states. But many conservatives chafed at the idea that the president's personal views would not affect public policy.

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Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, released a statement saying the president's comments were "deeply saddening." Dolan's statement continued, "I pray for the President every day, and will continue to pray that he and his Administration act justly to uphold and protect marriage as the union of one man and one woman."

Bishop Harry Jackson, the senior pastor of Hope Christian Church outside of Washington, DC, said that "I think the president has been in this place for awhile and that he chose this time because he thought that it might shift the balance of power." Jackson has long campaigned against same-sex marriage.

Ralph Reed, a top organizer among religious conservatives, said Obama’s announcement was a “gift to the Romney campaign.”

Romney, a Mormon who has evolved to a more conservative position on hot button social issues, has struggled with his party's largely evangelical conservative base in the primaries. But Reed said Obama’s gay marriage support would help Romney in many battleground states.

“The Obama campaign doesn’t have to worry about New York and California,” Reed said. “They have to worry about Ohio, Florida and Virginia and I don’t’ see evidence that it’s a winning issue in those states.”

Green said that public opinion about gay marriage has been shifting dramatically in recent years, with some polls showing more support than opposition. Green said that in many battlegrounds, including Ohio, it's impossible to nail down current public opinion on same-sex marriage. A Gallup Poll conducted this month found that 50% of American adults support legal recognition of same-sex marriage, while 48% oppose it.

Reed noted that same-sex marriage bans have passed in virtually every state they have appeared on the ballot, including in North Carolina on Tuesday. That’s a typically red state that Obama won in 2008 and that is the site of the Democrat's 2012 convention.

Many liberal groups were ecstatic over Obama’s support for gay marriage. “Congratulations, Mr. President, for making history today by becoming the first sitting president to explicitly support marriage for same-sex couples,” said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

In his interview with ABC, Obama talked about squaring his decision with his personal religious faith.

“We are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others,” Obama said, referencing his wife, Michelle.

“But, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it’s also the Golden Rule,” he said. “Treat others the way you would want to be treated.”

One key Obama constituency that may be angered by his Wednesday announcement is African-Americans, who tend to be more religious than whites. Though they hew heavily Democratic, African-Americans are generally conservative on social issues like gay marriage.

- CNN's Eric Marrapodi, Shannon Travis, and Mary Snow contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Gay marriage

soundoff (2,108 Responses)
  1. wwwFBCAKEcom

    Obama Stated “We are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others,” Obama said, referencing his wife, Michelle.

    Mr. President – Everyone knows you just put yourself at odds with the Word of God. You might be a hearer of the word, but what about doing the word??? You just brought to surface another double-standard. Your saying one thing and doing another. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

    May 10, 2012 at 8:02 am |
    • chipndale

      What he is saying is true. Because Christ, the founder of your faith has nothing to say on the matter neither can he. Because Christ didn't condemn it neither can he. I have yet to hear from anyone on these posts where Christ himslef condems this. Please step up or shut up. IDARE ANY OF YOU TO QUOTE CHRIST, NOT A PROPHET OR APOSTLE ON THIS MATTER, (THE SOURCE OF YOUR FAITH)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      May 10, 2012 at 8:13 am |
    • Michael Murphy

      It is always easier to criticize someone you do not like then to look at yourself. You support the tax cuts to the rich and starve the poor. You hurt all the older people in this country by supporting the Ryan budget that will end medicare and eventually Social Security. But because you think someone doesn't do what you think he should he is not a believer of the Word. You sir are the one who does not do what the Word tells you to do.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • Primewonk

      We are not a theocracy. I don't know how to put it any clearer. Your god has no standing in our laws. None of the thousands of other gods we've invented has standing either.

      President Obama is the leader of our secular nation. He is the President of Christians, and Jews, and Muslims, and Pagans, and agnostics, and atheists, and straights, and gays, and right-handed folks, and left-handed folks.

      I suggest you pull up your big-boy panties and spend some quality time reading the constîtution.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:23 am |
    • wwwFBCAKEcom

      Christ is God by the way.

      Hebrews 13:4 – Adultery is Sin.

      Per Christ Himself:

      Mark 10:3 through 12 – Christ specifically states Male and Female.

      Matthew 5:27 through 32 – Adultery, Fornication
      Matthew 19:9 through 12 – Adultery, Fornication
      Matthew 19:17 through 19 – Adultery – Restated based on marriage defined by God.
      Mark 10:18 through 21 – Adultery
      Luke 16:18 – Adultery, Wife and Husband Specifically defined.
      Luke 18:18 through 21 – Adultery
      John 8:1 through 11 – Adultery defined as Sin.

      May 10, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • AJ

      wwwFBCAKEcom, have you considered looking past your religion and deciding if adding these restrictions to people you don't know, who do not share your religious views, and who are harming no one makes any sense? I thought religion was supposed to bring people up, not push other down.

      Not only are you attempting you force others to act in that manner you want them to, you also want to President to practice his Christianity the same way you do. ...and you really think THEY are the problem?

      May 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
  2. Jim Statesville, NC

    Someone has to explain this to me... What difference does it make to anyone else other than the two people who want to share their life together? I mean, it doesn't have an affect on you, me or anyone else except the two people and their families. Nothing what so ever! Why do we need this kind of crap when there are bigger and most serious issues to deal with like our economy and the complete and utter gridlock of our political system. I am not a gay person and in truth I really have no gay friends or acquaintences who are gay. I don't have gay leanings. Here I am wondering why someone would even care what two people do that doesn't affect them in any way. It sickens me that these people are those who want to make laws so that people will be more like them. Stupid!

    May 10, 2012 at 8:01 am |
    • John Ross

      Because they are religious. Religion should be considered a mental illness.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:09 am |
    • SOAPY32

      JIM STATESMAN it affects every man woman and children in a country when the government condoles and ENCOURAGES TOXIC HATEFUL group ie homosexuals a group THAT ACTIVELY HATES ALL YOU!! The government is allowing these men and women hate filled living in fear and toxiic poision crying out sorrow for god holy spirit to roam free and pursue agenda of making men woman and children SICK WEAK WORST LINGERING DEATH WITH HIV PLUS TERETIARY PNEUMONIA active predators with YOU AS PREY!!! to violate and spread poison toxic sickness living in fear when your child is pale dying in hospital due to contamination from HIV PLUS TERETIARY PNEUMONIA due to attack by homosexual gang at hospital or public school and movie theatre maybe you will be forced to face awful truth i pray for the safety of your family to god holy spirit

      May 10, 2012 at 8:09 am |
    • Michael Murphy

      Some one call 911 for Soapy32 they seriously need help

      May 10, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • John Ross

      See what I mean Jim. Look at this guys post. Its barely readable. I am betting that there is all sorts of froth on his keyboard right now. He probably looks like he has rabies. Of course Religion and Rabies are both very serious diseases that we should do something about.
      Tell You what SOAPY32 I'll make you a deal. I am going to go out onto my front porch right now and smoke a cig.
      You pray as hard as you can to your make believe man in the sky to strike me dead with a BOLT OF LIGHTNING, or whatever to kill me. Ill be back in a few minutes to tell you how that all worked out for you.
      Seriously Do it......be creative. Pray that a 3 legged elephant with a nasal infection falls from a plane 15,000 feet up and lands right on top of me.......... Im going to pray to the thing of chapstick on my desk to protect me from your prayer.....Im betting my chapstick will get better results.
      Be back in a few.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:26 am |
    • wwwFBCAKEcom

      1 – It actually does have a huge effect on you, me and everyone in society through tax dollars. This is a fact. The majority of marriage laws were specifically designed to protect and assist children in those marriages, not adults.
      2 – It defies all morality and goes against nature.
      3 – It's ends leads to death. There is no possibility of pro-creation.
      4 – It's goes against the Word of God in which civilization has been for-warned about this kind of behavior and it's consequences.
      5 – It has to do with Lust more than it does Love. Love is being used as a cover-up in an attempt to make it seem morally right when in fact it is wrong.
      6 – It's purely based on feelings which can often times mislead people into making wrong and bad decisions. Human's have brains and common sense for a reason. They just need to use it. Feelings come and go and can be deceptive.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:31 am |
  3. bookishauthor

    I am all for Gay Marriage. It does not hurt anyone in my opinion. My issue is that as far as I am aware (and correct me if I am wrong) most if not all companies provide "domestic partner benefits" to the LGBT community in states where marriage is not yet legal as well as where it is legal of course, but those who are straight domestic partnerships are not given the same courtesy and that is an issue. If companies give the benefits to one community it needs to be for both sides because not everyone (straight or gay) wants to get married but they ALL deserve the same benefits and rights! Just my humble opinion.

    May 10, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • whodacares

      In a domestic partnership gay couples are not permitted to do things such as make medical decisions for their partner. In fact, they don't even have the right to see their partner in the hospital. That's just one minor issue that isn't covered under a domestic partnership.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:05 am |
    • Dan

      Yeah, the s-exual revolution wasn't supposed to hurt anyone either and the in less than ten years AIDS, HPV, herpes II and chlomitia has circled the globe.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:12 am |
  4. iwlnilla

    Great, now Obama lost the evangelical vote. Next, the fool is going to say something that will lose him the White Supremacist vote. Why must this guy keep angering his base?

    May 10, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • jk105

      I didn't know the anti-Gay bigot vote was even in play this election!

      May 10, 2012 at 8:01 am |
  5. Dave - Phx

    All you Christians so filled with hate. You go to church, you pretend to read the bible, but none of you learn anything. Keep hating, maybe jesus will do the same to you.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:57 am |
    • rr

      Jesus has been inspiring hate and intolerance for 2000 years. He should be proud.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • Rev Eli

      All Christians? Not really.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:05 am |
    • jane

      Dave-Phx,
      Too many are so full of religion they have no room left for morality.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:07 am |
    • John Ross

      Yeah Rev Eli Really.
      You say your not spreading the hate with your fellow Christians. OK fine. But I bet you have not said a word about Tolerance.
      Or pointed out to these so called christians their hate laced ranting and how unchristian they really are.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:13 am |
  6. Unwashed heathen

    Wah wah wah, my make believe god says I shouldn't be offended.
    You shouldn't be as it isnt your business, go raise your kids by your backwards 5,000 year old outdated text book. When they are older and hate you for teaching them hatred and intolerance disguised as devotion to an imaginary person, blame yourself and yr god but leave the gay folk out of it.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:55 am |
    • Tammy

      Then the gay folk can GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. If they don't want to hear the truth, then they should stop making the choice to commit sin or they can leave. They don't like hearing about it but they sure do butt in with their agenda plenty enough.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • John Ross

      Sorry Tammy ITS NOT YOUR COUNTRY YOU HATE FILLED BIGGOT.
      If you dont like living in a country where everyone has the same rights MOVE OUT. GO AWAY.
      Move to the middle east I hear Religious Intolerance is all the rage there.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:15 am |
    • Tammy

      WRONG. It IS MY COUNTRY. I was born here!!

      May 10, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • Talmonis

      So were they, silly fundie. Nobody cares what you think.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • Primewonk

      What "truth" Tammy?

      We've all tried telling you folks that people are born gay. And that being born gay is no more immoral or sinful than being born left-handed, or green-eyed. We've tried explaining to you folks that hômosèxuality is natural, since it occurs in 1500+ species of mammals, fish, birds, insects, other vertebrates and invertebrates.

      We've posted the citations to hundreds of peer-reviewed scientific research papers showing the multivariate biological nature of sèxual orientation.

      We've done this THOUSANDS of times. And you ignore it each time.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:47 am |
    • jefferson

      Tammy – when you speak of "their agenda" you do realize they are simply demanding simply to be treated the same as everyone else, don't you ? How does this scare you ? Last I checked gays still go to school, get jobs, pay taxes, buy stuff, vacation, have hobbies, drive cars, grow old, have social circles. Same as you.

      May 10, 2012 at 9:58 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Tammy
      So any Americans who don't agree with you should leave?
      "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free (as long as the'yre straight, white and Christian)"

      May 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  7. RevLIT

    Translation: "We want the gay vote. They have education and money. They usually don't waste their resources rearing children, and we want them badly. More than half the people in the country don't agree with us, but we are working on specific deceptions to get them as well. After all, only their votes matter!"

    May 10, 2012 at 7:44 am |
    • jk105

      Time to buy a new translation machine. Yours jumps to some loony conclusions.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:46 am |
    • chipndale

      Like most religions you brandish the line of fear to sway opinion. How funny you should admire a stance that marginalizes a portion of the population and then cry wolf when someone suggests prayer not be forced on people. You can't have it both ways. I have yet to hear what Jesus says on the matter, and of course no one can quote Jesus himself as being opposed to gay marriage. Not a one. If you are going to quote a book, please defend it by quoting the source. But you will not be able to. Yourself and other like you put all of your beliefs in one basket that contains so many holes they will eventually fall out and crack. Stop telling others how to live their lives and they won't bother you.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • johnfrichardson

      Obviously, Obama is indeed shoring up his somewhat disaffected base (not just gays, but the many people who support gay marriage) with a frankly belated move that will offend pretty much only those rightwing nitwits who would never vote for him anyway. In this case, I believe Obama genuinely supports gay marriage and if there was any cynical politicking about it, it was the fact that he remained silent on the issue as long as he did did.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:55 am |
    • Dan

      Jesus said nothing about gay marriage, but he certainly had plenty to say about divorce. Why aren't the bible thumpers campaigning to outlaw divorce? It's SIN!

      May 10, 2012 at 8:06 am |
    • Ahmad

      The President has been a long-time supporter of gay marriage. He was just in the closet about it. I'm glad he's out of the closet. Each time I think about how he took this political risk to come out publicly in support of us, I just get emotional. I'm so proud to have him as our President and I am honored to have been able to vote for him. Long Live Obama.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:17 am |
  8. gpforreal

    President Obama is much smarter than me, but I feel he just made a major miscalculation. His statement shores up his base, but really only among those who would have voted for him anyway. I think we will see a loss of about 5% points from middle of the road voters. The liberals can rant all they want now, but unless they really motivate their base, Obama will lose a close election. The economy is not good enough to carry him and he should have let this issue lie. We'll be inaugurating Mitt Romney in January.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:42 am |
    • Tammy

      Good riddance to the liberal.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:46 am |
    • Michael Murphy

      The base will be out in force, the 99% will all vote for Obama. ALL the Latino's , All the woman or all that don't want the government in their Virgina. All the Black and all the smart white men who have not forgotten what bush did to this country and we are not going back. The house and senate will also see the end of Republican rule

      May 10, 2012 at 7:56 am |
    • johnfrichardson

      There has been some genuine concern that Obama was alienating his base by being silent on so many issues that matter to them. And the number of people who would vote against him over this one issue is small and is overwhelmingly tilted to those who would have voted AGAINST him anyway. Most people realize, correctly, that this issue really doesn't affect them and will accommodate gay marriage even if they don't outright support it. And more people support it outright than you might imagine, including quite a few people who don't label themselves liberal or progressive, myself included.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • John Ross

      Sieg Heil tammy Sieg Heil
      Wow you are soooo full of hate. Perhaps you need medication more than you need religion. Seriously get some help from a professional. All that religious crap is rotting your brain.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:18 am |
  9. AJ

    Young people support gay marriage, and in fact see gay people as they do black people, just another part of a modern society.

    Old people are against it because it is different from what has always been for them and blame their religion for their stance.

    Guess which group is going to be around longer?

    May 10, 2012 at 7:42 am |
    • Ton

      It won't be the young people if they start looting and burning like they did in Britain.

      That shlt would have been stopped dead in the US.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:46 am |
    • Carmi

      Not all young people make uninformed comments like yours. There are plenty of racists and gay haters among the young. It's in the news all the time.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • Dan

      The young 1) are overly concerned with what others think and 2) rarely get off their lazy backsides to vote. They are typical liberals.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:56 am |
    • Dan

      The young 1) are overly concerned with what others think and 2) rarely get off their lazy backsides to vote. They don't count.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:57 am |
    • gpforreal

      Yes they will and maybe opinions are changing. But Pres. Obama just lost Ohio Texas Florida, AND the election. Liberals assume through their self-righteousness that it is simply logical that everyone will agree with them. This will be an important issue and statement for many mainstream people. And guess what, they don't want the US government telling us who and what they have to accept.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:36 am |
    • AJ

      I admit that Democrats are bad about voting for these type of issues, but it is because we see issues like this as ridiculous non-issues,that are not worth wasting time on. We're concerned with moving things forward, instead of trying to get others to adhere to annoying, outdated religious concepts.

      May 10, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
  10. t.sarcastic

    Obama's concurrence was all I've been waiting for. I can't speak for the rest of you but I'm ditching the old lady and running right out to find me a man.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:36 am |
  11. Duke

    Whenever I am constipated I think of religions people. I am instantly cured.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:36 am |
  12. Mike

    One who believes History repeats itself can easily say that the US, as a civilization, is literally circling the drain to become the next Roman Empire. He can say that the US is a fraction away from imploding on itself, as did Rome; and for the same reasons ... arrogance, decadence, and moral depravity. At least one well known theologian has recently published that the Bible indicates the US will already itself be a footnote in History by the time the prophecies found in Revelation are fulfilled. Barack Obama is the greatest general our enemies have. He will do anything for a vote ... to include sacrificing the very nation he swore to defend.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:35 am |
    • fryuujin

      you can put down the crack pipe now

      May 10, 2012 at 7:38 am |
    • Tammy

      ROME fell because they were a sinful empire and they were caught up in gay behaviors. History shows that God does not tolerate it. Every empire that has embraced sin has fallen.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:39 am |
    • cashmeremafia

      Isn't that what everyone is saying about Romney??

      May 10, 2012 at 7:39 am |
    • Duke

      Tammy – you are simply wrong. The actual reason was ineffective leadership during a time if increasing external problems (border wars on all sides). Rome actually rose to it;s height at a time when gay behavior was widely accepted and fell when it was becoming unacceptable.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • jk105

      Tammy Old Girl

      Rome "caught up in gay behaviors" Do you mean the Roman where Jesus surrounded himself with men?

      May 10, 2012 at 7:45 am |
    • Tammy

      Of course it takes a liberal to imply Jesus was gay. Which he was NOT.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:47 am |
    • AJ

      So Obama supporting a life choice that has always existed is suddenly going to bring down society?

      Yeah, your probably right. Better grab a few more cans of beans and get back in your bunker. We'll let you know when it's
      safe to come out.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:48 am |
    • rr

      Tammy I have some pictures of jesus in some very gay situations with some very drunk apostles. Should I email them to you ?

      May 10, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • AJ

      "Of course it takes a liberal to imply Jesus was gay. Which he was NOT."

      Come on, Tammy. you're making this way too easy. It's no fun when you get fished in that easily.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • Michael Murphy

      The same Bible you quote as being the prophetic guideline of our future says that Any one Who comes with a different doctrine then what Y'shua and the Apostles preached is an Anti-Christ. That says Mormons are antichrist but yet you and all your organized religions are running right behind the Mormon. Scripture has a particular phrase that might be trounbling to you if you give it so thought, Revelation says that the enemy, the devil, will send a strong delusion on the elect to chose his prophet, the antichrist

      May 10, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • johnfrichardson

      Rome fell for many reasons, high among them the fact that the Huns and several Germanic tribes were kicking them in the teeth militarily again and again. Also, please note that Pagan Rome reigned supreme for centuries and Rome fell within a couple of centuries of becoming Christianized. Christians who want to draw any moral lessons from that should take a vow to stay out of politics. Christian leaders obviously failed Rome.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:05 am |
  13. gobnait

    Look at all the enlightened posters who a) are surprised at this 'sudden' development' and b) pretending that anything has changed as a result of this 'historic' revelation. You libs are a hoot.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:29 am |
    • Carmi

      As if Conservatives aren't?

      May 10, 2012 at 7:44 am |
  14. Dl

    The religion of intolerance, judgement, shame & hate HAS to have perceived evil to survive... I'm SAVED, you're NOT... I believe in JESUS – you DON'T, I am RIGHTEOUS you're NOT, I don't have ABORTIONS – you DO, I'm STRAIGHT, you're NOT... YOU'RE going to H#LL, I'm going to HEAVEN... just like the TALIBAN

    May 10, 2012 at 7:28 am |
    • rr

      No, strongly-religious people in this country shave. But that seems to be the only difference.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:02 am |
    • Michael Murphy

      Your righteousness is like filthy rags to Him. You make the same mistake the Devil made, you judge who will be saved and who will not. Those who judge can be assured of one thing, they have already been judged and found wanting. You have sealed your own fate, and I might remind you of Y'shua's words when He said "All that come to me and say Lord Lord, I will say Depart from Me I never knew you.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:09 am |
  15. lulu

    Sadly, it all boils down to politics for these people, instead of faith. Mr President, why now? Why not make your views public a couple of years ago? Your heart may be in the right place, but the timing is sending out mixed signals. Regardless, I support you over the republican bozo. May the force be with you!

    May 10, 2012 at 7:23 am |
    • Yoda

      Deceiving the dark side is.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:35 am |
  16. Mott the Hoople

    Legalize gay marriage, then it's time to legalize polygamy and polyandry. And it's time to disband the antiquated laws that make consensual incest illegal. That's the 14th Amendment, equal protection under the law. It's the proverbial "camel's nose under the tent".

    May 10, 2012 at 7:22 am |
    • chipndale

      As typical you go to the lowest common denominator when it comes to consenting adults. Like most religions you brandish the line of fear to sway opinion. How funny you should admire a stance that marginalizes a portion of the population and then cry wolf when someone suggests prayer not be forced on people. You can't have it both ways. I have yet to hear what Jesus says on the matter, and of course no one can quote Jesus himself as being opposed to gay marriage. Not a one. If you are going to quote a book, please defend it by quoting the source. But you will not be able to. Yourself and other like you put all of your beliefs in one basket that contains so many holes they will eventually fall out and crack. Stop telling others how to live their lives and they won't bother you.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:47 am |
  17. clarke

    This subject has been beaten to death. Can we move on to the real important issues, like food, clothing and shelter, health care, jobs, wars, Everyone has a belief system, that belongs to them, I will live my life based on my belief system, not someone else. None of are wrong or right, just different, respect it and move on.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:20 am |
    • bardmorgan

      The problem isn't people like you, that live by their belief system in peace. The problem is people like the Religious Right, that live by their belief system, and then demand that YOU, and ME, and EVERYONE live by their belief system, too!

      May 10, 2012 at 8:06 am |
    • Cheryl

      I wish this could be the case. Unfortunately when our government starts to enforce laws that are guided by their beliefs, it becomes an issue.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:08 am |
  18. Tammy

    They made the choice to be gay. They can choose to GET OUT of our country. We, the majority, CHRISTIANS, are sick of them defiling our beliefs. Liberals need to stop forcing their gay agenda on us. WE DON'T WANT THEM IN OUR COUNTRY. Our children do not need to see to guys doing things together in the streets. I've had to explain to my two children a number of times why they've seen men kissing and groping each other. It's DISGUSTING. My children are disgusted, and they know it's wrong. TAKE IT ELSEWHERE. Canada, France, I don't care. GO AWAY.

    May 10, 2012 at 7:17 am |
    • UK Socialist

      hahahaha oh dear someone thinks it's a choice.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:20 am |
    • Tammy

      Oh dear someone is an IDIOT if they think it isn't a choice. You have a choice right now. You can either sin or not sin. Action is CHOICE. Killers make the CHOICE to murder. Pedophiles make the CHOICE to molest kids. Gays make the CHOICE to do what it is they do to each other. I don't care if Jim thinks he's attracted to Fred. He does NOT have an obligation to act on it. If he acts upon his desire, then he is making a CHOICE. PERIOD. Are you implying that gays accidentally do each other?

      May 10, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • Dl

      Did YOU make the CHOICE to be straight? Who are YOU to judge others? Let me guess – you talk to God & you know best. H#ll has a special place for blasphemers like you.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:30 am |
    • Stew Shearer

      Our model of government is designed specifically to protect the minority from the will of the often misguided (in this case Christian) majority. The fact that you find something distasteful does not mean others need to change their lives. Point in case, I find people like you to be ignorant, bigoted and offensive but I don't demand you leave the country because I understand that you have the right to think the way you do.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:33 am |
    • Michael Murphy

      Why are you taking your children into gay bars, that would be the only place you might see men kissing or grouping each other. And as most bigots you forget this is a free country, and as soon as people realize that everyone has the right to be happy. People don't chose to incur the wrath of others around them. What exactly is the gay agenda that is being pushed on you? Be interesting to find out what you really object to.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:34 am |
    • Edward

      Great idea Tammy. Would you like to send the blacks, Jews, and Muslims out of the country as well? I think your mentality would have been more welcome in 1940's Germany.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:34 am |
    • AJ

      If you think that your ridiculous religion should give you the right to restrict the legal actions of others, you are not representing your country well and should pack your bags for a place where that kind of thinking is more acceptable, like Iraq.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:34 am |
    • Tammy

      Yes, we ARE born straight. I'm noticing a trend with all the idiot liberals and atheists that they all think since they don't have to answer to God they they can just say whatever they want. Sorry but it does NOT work that way. It is UNNATURAL TO BE GAY. PERIOD. Ever see a man impregnate another man? I didn't think so. When that happens (it WON'T) then you can tell me people are born gay. But since it isn't possible because we weren't created that way, then THEY CAN LEAVE.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:35 am |
    • hansdick

      Another Christian know it all. Always amazing to me the amount of hate these types can spew. Gives Christianity a bad name. I just refer to it now as American Christianity.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:37 am |
    • Talmonis

      Nobody cares what you silly fundies think Tammers. If you try to force your pathetic religion on us, we'll burn the churches.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:39 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      Tammy clearly knows nothing as evidence in her post. Last time I checked, there was evidence of a "gay gene", meaning that it is definitely not a choice, but its predisposed.

      I hope you realize that the religion you believe is man made and you are discriminating against people you dont even know based on words a bunch of MEN wrote down, then edited to fit their agenda. You advocate kicking people out of the country that based on the sole reason that they are different from you, and you feel threatened by them. Very "christ" like.

      Bottom line is, keep your silly religion out of my home and government. Majority doesn't rule over the minority. Its about time to grow up.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:41 am |
    • Michael Murphy

      Ah after reading your second post I realize you are using Scripture to validate your bigotry. Sin is Sin, one is not more severe then the other, according to Y'shua. So using His analogy and the old testament The Law of Moses, which you are claiming is in effect here, says all who mix two different materials like wool and silk are guilty of sin, a Man who lies with a woman who has her period is committing and abomination, and every woman has to leave her home once a month when she has her period or she is sinning. Now I didnt hear you asking for Jimmy Swaggert to be stoned to death for his adultry, or Jim and Tammy for there's. So how do you pick and choose the sin you justify. You see how sinful you are.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • Alex

      How about this, I'll leave OUR country but all you idiots who think that just because I'm gay I shouldn't be with the man of my dreams have to leave too. Deal? 🙂

      May 10, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • Tammy

      Oh another liberal KNOW IT ALL. That's right liberal. Tell us, the MAJORITY, what it is you think you can just force us to do. Go ahead liberal, grab all your hollywood friends and tell us all, the MAJORITY how you think you know what's better for us. The floor is yours, LIBERAL KNOW IT ALL.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • Duke

      You tammy can choose to get out of this country too. Take your bigotry with you please.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:44 am |
    • Forklift

      Religion is definitely a choice, and so is bigotry. Unfortunately, religion embraces the stupid and infects them with hate. Maybe you should follow your Jesus and love your fellow man for who they are and not what you or your perceived notion of god's will wants them to be. Isn't it your god's job to do the judging?

      May 10, 2012 at 7:47 am |
    • Tammy

      No THANKS. I'm with the MAJORITY. WE do NOT want gays in OUR COUNTRY!!!!

      May 10, 2012 at 7:48 am |
    • rr

      Either tammy is a troll, or she has the saddest life of anyone I know stuck in her little bibleville scared to open her eyes and see the beauty of the world. Either that, or her ex-husband left her for another man and she is bitter.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:48 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      Tammy,

      First, explain why ho...m..ose...x...uality is so rampant in the animal kingdom...would love to hear your explanation.

      "Oh another liberal KNOW IT ALL. That's right liberal. Tell us, the MAJORITY, what it is you think you can just force us to do. Go ahead liberal, grab all your hollywood friends and tell us all, the MAJORITY how you think you know what's better for us. The floor is yours, LIBERAL KNOW IT ALL."

      The minority is not forcing anything on you, Tammy. They just want equal rights, benefits and protections under the law. If you mindless christians want to monopolize the word "marriage", fine, whatever. But at least let gays have equal protections, rights and benefits as a civil union.

      And just to let you know, I am not liberal. But thanks for painting my picture with such a wide brush, not that I am surprised, christians are small minded individuals. I just have the decency and common sense to know what you are trying to do is WRONG.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      Choice? Hmmmm.

      Tell us about the "talk" your parents had with you. Yeah they told you you could choose to be harassed, bullied, that choice might lead to suicide, possible murder, life long discrimination.

      Yeah that's some choice. I can see why 10% of the population would choose that.

      LOL

      May 10, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • jdindenver

      So being gay is a choice, Tammy? When did you choose to be straight and why would someone choose a lifestyle that made them second class citizens, subject to the whims of bigots like you?

      May 10, 2012 at 7:53 am |
    • Tammy

      My parents didn't have to have a talk with me. I knew it was wrong in my heart. THAT is what we are born with.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:54 am |
    • Tammy

      And it does NOT run through nature. Sorry. But because two dogs play around with each other or groom each other does NOT make them gay. It's really cute how you people try to make this argument but it has absolutely no truth in it at all. Did your cat ever tell you it was gay? Please explain how it is you have witnessed gay activity in nature. Were two male trees growing close to one another? GIVE ME A BREAK.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:56 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      Giving someone equal rights does not infringe or take away rights from you.
      It just makes illegal to enforce your prejudice and hate.

      It's really that simple!

      May 10, 2012 at 7:58 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

      There you go, Tammy. Try opening up a book other than the bible. You might learn something.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • whodacares

      Oh Tammy, Tammy, Tammy. So much vial hate in one person. Maybe you need to go to church more often to learn some actual acceptance of people. Better yet, look in the mirror and ask yourself if your behavior is what your "God" would like to see.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • Rev Eli

      I simply have to respond as a Christian and a minister. Jesus does not degrade, speak hatefully, or condemn anyone except religious leaders who belittle others. If you are a true Christian; you know this. I would never question your faith, but I do question your tactics. Is this line of argument edifying the Lord Jesus Christ? Is this helping to win souls? Is it viewing the world through the eyes of Christ? If you are in disagreement, you should pray, not argue. It is no wonder so many people have turned from organized religion because rather than attract people through love and understanding; they are repelled by arrogance and so called "enlightenment". Read your Bible; don't just repeat what your minister says. Allow God to speak to your heart.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • Christopher

      I'll pray for you Tammy. I hope you find the love and peace of the Lord. Jesus Christ, your savior and God befriended the sinners and died for their sins. None of us are without sin. Perhaps you should say a prayer to the Lord tonight to relieve you of your Pride.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:01 am |
    • chipndale

      NO!!!! You GO AWAY. Like the dinosaus that once roamed the Earth, others of your ilk will fade away into extinction. I am surprised that your vile words haven't made youre blood so toxic you pass out. Grow up, mature, use the brain God gave you and stop quoting fear and intimidation. The gay population has had enough of the intimidation and rants. WE ARE YOUR EQUALS!!!!!!!!!!!!

      May 10, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • NickZadick

      WOW! Tammy, you are a freaking retârd!! keep suckîng on your book of ancient fairy tales!! damm you're a stûpid cûnt!

      May 10, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • Josh

      Why is it that the people who say they are "christian" and firm believers people who judge the most. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. – Matthew 7:1 Who are to Judge if a person choose to be Gay/Lesbian or not Tammy?

      May 10, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • johnfrichardson

      The only choice that gays make is the choice to accept who they are or pretend to be something else. That's why so many anti-gay zealots turn out to be closeted gays themselves. They are at war with themselves and externalize their self loathing by hating other gays who accept themselves. I didn't "choose" not to be gay. I'm simply one of the many men who found themselves fascinated by women, having erotic dreams and fantasies about them and therefore seeking them out as s-exual partners. When we here some of our ostensibly heteros-exual fellows rant and rant and rant about the "choice" to be gay, implying they made a choice to be, or actually perhaps to just pretend to bet, straight, we wonder ... Same is true of females. Most of the gay women I know simply accept themselves. Most of the straight women I know simply accept themselves. But every once in a while you find someone who is a seething cauldron who screams about the "choice" that lesbians have made. Again, what's up with that?

      May 10, 2012 at 8:17 am |
    • Tammy

      You liberals need to pull your heads out. I don't know what planet you're all on but here in the United States we are a MAJORITY CHRISTIAN NATION. Like I said. Don't like it? GET OUT. PERIOD.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:20 am |
    • Charles

      Wow. You really hate people. I hope you don't own a firearm because you scare me.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:26 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      You're right, Tammy. The US is predominately Christian, at least people who consider themselves Christian. Too bad this country was founded on religious freedom and is not a theocracy.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:48 am |
    • jefferson

      Tammy – when the founding fathers wanted to protect the citizens from the "tyranny of the majority" they were describing exactly your views. If anyone should "leave" this country, it would be you. Your behavior is in direct conflict with the views and wishes of the founding fathers.

      May 10, 2012 at 8:53 am |
  19. Gay guy

    Vote Mitt, and save AMERICA

    May 10, 2012 at 7:16 am |
  20. charlee

    I dont think it is natural in the world of creation for ppl to sick their penis up someones ass. Is that natural?

    May 10, 2012 at 7:11 am |
    • Gay guy

      Nor is it natural for u breeders to stick ur tongue up a womans privates, NOW SHUT UP AND VOTE FOR MITT AND SAVE AMERICA

      May 10, 2012 at 7:14 am |
    • Lawrence the Drywaller

      Yes it is, and it tastes delicious.

      May 10, 2012 at 7:18 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      then explain why ho...mo...se...xua...lity runs rampant throughout NATURE

      May 10, 2012 at 7:53 am |
    • whodacares

      You should think about that the next time your wife asks you to do it. For some reason it's erotic for hetero men to do it with women, and I know quite a few straight men who would love nothing more than to see two women get it on. Hmmm…

      May 10, 2012 at 8:01 am |
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