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May 12th, 2012
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With or without Romney, D.C. a surprising Mormon stronghold

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Alexandria, Virginia (CNN) – A few hundred Mormons filed into a chapel just outside the Washington Beltway one recent Sunday to hear a somewhat unusual presentation: an Obama administration official recounting his conversion to Mormonism.

“I have never in my life had a more powerful experience than that spiritual moment when the spirit of Christ testified to me that the Book of Mormon is true,” Larry Echo Hawk told the audience, which stretched back through the spacious sanctuary and into a gymnasium in the rear.

Echo Hawk’s tear-stained testimonial stands out for a couple of reasons: The White House normally doesn’t dispatch senior staff to bare their souls, and Mormons hew heavily Republican. It’s not every day a top Democrat speaks from a pulpit owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

And yet the presentation by Echo Hawk, then head of the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs, is also a perfect symbol of a phenomenon that could culminate in Mitt Romney’s arrival at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue next year: The nation’s capital has become a Mormon stronghold, with Latter-day Saints playing a big and growing role in the Washington establishment.

The well-dressed crowd gathered for Echo Hawk’s speech was dotted with examples of inside-the-beltway Mormon power.

In one pew sits a Mormon stake president – a regional Mormon leader – who came to Washington to write speeches for Ronald Reagan and now runs a lobbying firm downtown.

Behind him in the elegant but plain sanctuary – Mormon chapels are designed with an eye toward functionality and economy – is a retired executive secretary of the U.S. Supreme Court.

A few pews further back, the special assistant to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan sits next to a local Mormon bishop who came to Washington to work for Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah and now leads a congressionally chartered foundation.

Mitt Romney, who would be the first Mormon president if elected, is the son of a Cabinet secretary under Richard Nixon.

“In a Republican administration, there will be even more Mormons here,” whispers the bishop, Lewis Larsen, pointing out prominent Washingtonians around the chapel. “Every Republican administration just loads up with them.”

Regardless of which party controls the White House, Mormonism in Washington has been growing for decades.

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When Larsen arrived in Washington in the early ’80s, there were a just handful of Mormon meetinghouses in northern Virginia, where he lives. Today, there are more than 25, each housing three separate congregations, or wards, as they’re known in the LDS Church.

“There’s been an absolute explosion in Mormon growth inside the beltway,” Larsen says before slipping out of the pew to crank the air conditioning for the swelling crowd.

The LDS Church says there are 13,000 active members within a 10-mile radius of Washington, though the area’s Mormon temple serves a much larger population – 148,000 Latter-day Saints, stretching from parts of South Carolina to New Jersey.

Signs of the local Mormon population boom transcend the walls of the temple and meetinghouses.

Crystal City, a Virginia neighborhood just across the Potomac River from Washington, has become so popular with young Mormons that it’s known as “Little Provo,” after the Utah city that’s home to church-owned Brigham Young University.

Congress now counts 15 Mormon members, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, according to the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. That means the 2% of the country that’s Mormon is slightly overrepresented on Capitol Hill.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, is the highest-placed elected Mormon in Washington.

Even many Latter-day Saints joke about Washington’s “Mormon mafia” – referring to the number of well-placed LDS Church members across town – though they cringe at the thought of being seen as part of some cabal. (Echo Hawk, for his part, left the Obama administration a few weeks after his chapel presentation for a job in the LDS Church hierarchy).

“No one talks about Washington being an Episcopalian stronghold or a Jewish stronghold,” says Richard Bushman, a Mormon scholar at Columbia University. Talk of “Mormon Washington,” he says, “represents a kind of surprise that people who were thought of as provincial have turned up in sophisticated power positions.”

Bushman and other experts note that, despite Mormons’ growing political power, the official church mostly steers clear of politics. It’s hard to point to federal legislation or a White House initiative that bears distinctly Mormon fingerprints, while it’s easy to do the same for other faiths.

For example, the White House’s recent “compromise” on a rule that would have required religious groups to fund contraception for employees was mostly a reaction to pressure from Roman Catholic bishops.

Nonetheless, Mormon success in Washington is a testament to distinctly Mormon values, shedding light into the heart of one of America’s fastest-growing religions.

And though the official church is mostly apolitical, most rank-and-file Mormons have linked arms with the GOP. Romney’s own political evolution mirrors that trend.

Such forces help explain why Mormons’ beltway power is poised to grow even stronger in coming years, whether or not Romney wins the White House.

‘A ton of Mormon contacts’

For many Washington Mormons, religion plays a key role in explaining why they’re here.

Larsen, who sports a brown comb-over and tortoise shell glasses, arrived in Washington in the early 1980s as an intern for Hatch, also a Mormon.

He landed the internship courtesy of Brigham Young University, his alma mater. The Mormon school owns a four-story dorm on Pennsylvania Avenue, not too far from the White House, which houses 120 student interns each year. It’s the school’s largest such program in the nation.

“Part of our church’s tradition is to be connected with civic life, to make our communities better,” says BYU’s Scott Dunaway, who helps place students on Capitol Hill, at the Smithsonian and other Washington institutions. “We don’t believe in being reclusive.”

It’s a perfect characterization of Larsen. He grew up in Provo, in the shadow of BYU, and wanted to prove he could make it outside of Utah.

“Kids growing up in the LDS Church have been told, ‘Go ye out in the world and preach the gospel of Christ - don’t be afraid to be an example,’ ” Larsen said, sitting in the glass-doored conference room of the foundation he runs on K Street.

“So we are on our missions, converting people to Christianity,” he continued. “And coming to Washington, for me and probably for a lot of people, came out of that interest. We see it as our career, but also we’re going out to preach the word of Christ.”

For Larsen, that usually means correcting misinformation about Mormonism or explaining Mormon beliefs and practices – you really don’t drink coffee, ever? – over lunch with co-workers or at business functions, rather than on-the-job proselytizing.

He learned about integrating work and faith from Hatch. He was initially shocked to discover that the senator prays in his office each morning. Larsen and Hatch developed what the bishop calls a “father-son” relationship, with the intern rising up through the ranks to become Hatch’s chief Washington fundraiser.

“We would go on trips, and I’d quiz him on the plane: Why did the church do this? Why didn’t the church do this?” Larsen said. “He was like a tutor to me.”

Now, as the head of a foundation that educates teachers about the U.S. Constitution, the bishop helps other young Mormons with job leads and introductions. Larsen was appointed to the role by Hatch and the late U.S. Sen. Ted Kennedy.

Much of Washington’s Mormon professional network is still anchored by BYU, which operates a handful of big, well-connected alumni groups with major Washington chapters. The most prominent is BYU’s Management Society, a global organization whose biggest chapter is in Washington.

At the chapter’s recent alumni dinner, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was the guest of honor. She has strong ties to the Mormon community and has hired Mormons as top aides. Says Larsen: “Condi’s got a ton of Mormon contacts.”

Patrice Pederson also knows how to work a Rolodex. A lifelong political activist, she moved from Utah to Washington last year and soon tapped into BYU’s local network.

Pederson served as the U.S.-based campaign manager for Yeah Samake, a Mormon running for president in the West African nation of Mali.

Samake traveled frequently to the U.S. to raise money and build political support, so Pederson enlisted the help of BYU’s Management Society and other groups to host events for the candidate.

Both in Washington and across the U.S., many Mormons are watching his candidacy.

“Members of the church on Capital Hill were anxious to introduce the candidate to other members of Congress,” says Pederson, sipping an herbal tea (Mormons eschew black leaf teas) in a strip mall Starbucks near her apartment in Alexandria, Virginia.

“It’s cool to have a member of the church running for president in Africa.”

Beyond making connections, many Washington Mormons say the LDS Church provides an ideal proving ground for careers here.

Unlike most churches, it has no professional clergy; from the bishop to the organist, each role is filled by everyday Mormons, most of whom have other day jobs. As a result, Mormons take church leadership roles at an early age, speaking publicly at Sunday services almost as soon they learn to talk.

“My kids grew up in the church, and we get together for three hours on Sundays, and each member needs to get up and speak,” says U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah. “By the time they graduate, they have all these speaking assignments that other teenagers just don’t have.

U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican, says Mormonism provides ideal training for aspiring politicians.

“For those who grow up in the Mormon church, they are taught skills that allow them to be successful in a tough city like Washington,” says Chaffetz, who converted to Mormonism shortly after college.

Young Mormons also hone leadership skills by serving missions away from home. The missions last from one and half to two years and happen when Mormons are in their late teens and early 20s and often include intensive foreign language training.

“Young Mormons are more formidable in public settings and international settings than others,” says Terryl Givens, a Mormon scholar at the University of Richmond. “Normally you would have to acquire more age and work experience before you feel comfortable and useful at NGOs and think tanks.”

Chaffetz, whose son is serving a mission in Ghana, says the experience is the perfect preparation for political careers.

“They learn rejection early on,” he says. “If you’re going to be in politics, that’s a pretty good attribute.”

Christina Tomlinson served her mission in nonexotic Fresno, California. But working with the Laotian community there, she acquired the foreign language skills that landed her first internship at the U.S. State Department.

“I look back at that and it’s nothing but divine providence,” Tomlinson says one night at an office building-turned-chapel in Crystal City, after a weekly discussion about Mormon teachings. “I would have never made those choices.”

When she arrived at her foreign service orientation in the late 1990s, Tomlinson was surprised to find that a half-dozen of her State Department colleagues were also Mormon. The thriving LDS community at State even runs its own e-mail list server so Latter-day Saints can find each other wherever in the world they’re stationed.

Like former presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, who used the Mandarin language skills acquired through a Mormon mission to Taiwan to help secure his job as President Barack Obama’s previous ambassador to China, Tomlinson leveraged her mission to get ahead at State, where she now serves as special assistant to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“I’m basically the chief of staff for the president’s representative charged with implementing U.S. foreign policy towards Afghanistan and Pakistan,” she e-mailed on a recent plane ride back from the region.

Language skills acquired on a Mormon mission helped Christina Tomlinson get her start at the State Department.

At the point of a bayonet

Like many Mormons, Tomlinson says her professional life is driven by a faith-based patriotism that sounds old-fashioned to modern ears: “I just really wanted to serve my country.”

But that distinctly Mormon patriotism was hard-won. From their very beginning, Mormons had tried to forge a special relationship with Washington. And for decades, they failed.

Joseph Smith, who founded Mormonism in the 1830s, petitioned the U.S. government to protect his fledgling religious community from the violent persecution it was experiencing, even meeting repeatedly with President Martin Van Buren.

But Washington refused, provoking Smith – who Mormons consider their founding prophet – to run for president himself in 1844. He was assassinated by an anti-Mormon mob in Illinois well before Election Day.

In the face of such attacks, Mormons fled west, to the territory that’s now Utah. But they continued to seek ties with Washington, dispatching representatives to the capital to lobby for statehood.

Congress refused to grant it. Instead, Uncle Sam disincorporated the LDS Church and sent the U.S. Army to police Mormon territory.

In the eyes of Washington, Latter-day Saints were flouting federal law by practicing polygamy. The feds saw the LDS Church as an undemocratic rival government that threatened Washington’s power.

Joseph Smith, Mormonism’s founding prophet, ran for president in 1844 but was killed before Election Day.

Mormons would eventually ban polygamy, paving the way for Utah statehood in 1896. But Congress nonetheless refused to seat the new state’s Mormon senator, who also served as a top church official.

For four years, the U.S. Senate held hearings to grill U.S. Sen. Reed Smoot and other church leaders, alleging that Mormons continued to practice polygamy despite promises to the contrary.

“The political trial was as much a galvanizing cultural moment as was Watergate,” says Kathleen Flake, a scholar of Mormonism at Vanderbilt University in Tenneessee.

When Smoot was eventually seated – after the LDS Church took further steps to stamp out polygamy – he managed to become a Washington powerbroker. He would chair the Senate Finance Committee and act as a presidential adviser.

“He was Mr. Republican,” says Flake. “For a while there, he was the Republican Party.”

Smoot’s unflagging pursuit of legitimacy in Washington, despite the city’s bias against him and his faith, symbolizes what many call a uniquely Mormon appreciation for American civic life. It helps explain the Mormon fascination with Washington to this day.

It may seen counterintuitive, but Mormons’ early exposure to persecution at the hands of other Americans – aided, Mormons say, by the U.S. government – wound up strengthening their patriotic streak.

In the face of attacks, Mormons clung to the U.S. Constitution and its unprecedented guarantee of religious freedom. They distinguished between the document and those charged with implementing it.

Mormon scripture goes so far as to describe the U.S. Constitution as divinely inspired, establishing a unique environment in which Mormonism could emerge.

“Mormons are superpatriots,” says Columbia University’s Bushman. “Joseph Smith said that if the government was doing its job as laid out in the Constitution, it would protect Mormons from their enemies.”

Mormons began to shed their Utah-only siege mentality and fanned out in the early part of the 20th century. Their patriotic streak, which translated into military enlistments and applications for government jobs, led many to Washington.

That wave included J. Willard Marriott, the hotel chain founder, who launched his business career by opening an A&W root beer stand here. He would go on to forge the kind of deep political connections that would help make Willard “Mitt” Romney his namesake.

Washington’s Mormon community got another boost in the 1950s when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed a top church official, Ezra Taft Benson, as his agriculture secretary.

“Mormons took it as a sign of maybe, just maybe, we’re being accepted,” says Flake. “It signified a cultural acceptance of Mormonism. People thought Mormons believed weird things, but also that they were self-reliant, moral and good neighbors.”

As Mormons became more accepted, they became more upwardly mobile, landing in parts of the country that could sustain careers in commerce, academia and government - another reason Washington was a big draw.

By the time there were enough Mormons in the eastern U.S. to justify the construction of the first Mormon temple east of the Mississippi River, the church chose a site just outside Washington.

The temple opened in 1974, shortly after another high-profile Mormon – George Romney, Mitt’s father – left his post as Richard Nixon’s secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

“The Washington temple served as a symbol of the triumphant return of Mormonism to the east,” says Givens, the University of Richmond professor. “Mormons left from the point of a bayonet in the 1800s and the temple is this gigantic symbol that says ‘We’re back – and we’re back in the nation’s capital.’ ”

The Mormon temple outside Washington was the first such temple built east of the Mississippi River.

Unlike Mormon meetinghouses, where members meet for Sunday worship, temples are grander buildings reserved for certain rites, such as proxy baptisms for the dead.

To this day, the first monument many Washington visitors see isn’t a federal landmark. It’s the massive Mormon temple, its Georgian marble towers and gold-leafed spires looming above the trees on the Washington Beltway like an otherworldly castle.

The temple houses a J. Willard Marriott-financed mural of Jesus Christ’s second coming, which features a picture of the Washington temple itself in the background.

“Are you implying that the millennium will begin in Washington?” a temple visitor once asked Marriott, referring to Jesus’ return.

Replied Marriott: “What better place is there?”

Good at organizing

These days, the Mormon impulse toward Washington is often as much political as patriotic.

Patrice Pederson - the campaign manager for the Mormon running for president in Mali - made her first foray into politics at 15, hopping the bus from her home in the suburbs of Salt Lake City into town to intern with a Republican candidate for the U.S. House.

“I remember that when Bill Clinton was elected, I wore all black to school that day,” says Pederson, who was in junior high at the time. “I was mourning the death of liberty.”

When then-Vice President Al Gore visited Utah, Pederson protested his speech with a homemade poster that said “Blood, Guts & Gore – Healthcare’94.” (She can’t recall the poster’s exact meaning).

Pederson’s activism as a “total hardcore right-winger” continued into her 20s. She put off college at BYU to start a “pro-family” advocacy group aimed at lobbying foreign governments and the United Nations. The work brought her to Washington so frequently that she decided to relocate last year: “I had more friends here than in Utah.”

Pederson’s path to D.C. speaks to the growing Mormon/Republican alliance since the 1960s, driven largely by the emergence of social issues such as abortion and gay marriage and the rise of the Christian Right.

“In the 1950s and ’60s, Utah became Republican,” says Bushman. “It’s partly about being anti-communist, but it’s also a response to the 1960s and the decay of old-fashioned moral virtues. It’s an anti-1960s movement, and the Republicans seemed to be the party of old-fashioned virtues.”

Pederson’s roommate, Kodie Ruzicka, grew up squarely in that movement, with her mom heading the Utah chapter of Eagle Forum, a conservative Christian group founded by rightwing icon Phyllis Schlafly.

In the 1970s, when the Catholic Schlafly led a successful grassroots campaign against the Equal Rights Amendment, which would have made gender-based discrimination unconstitutional, she enlisted the help of Mormons.

To its opponents, including the LDS Church, the ERA was the work of radical feminists who wanted to upend traditional gender roles.

Much of Schlafly’s organizing was among evangelicals, and “given the sometimes hostile evangelical line on Mormons, [Schlafly’s] Mormon outreach was kind of revolutionary,” says Ruzicka, who now works at the Justice Department. “But we’re good at organizing, and we have a lot of useful structures for it, so that was useful to her.”

Today, Mormons head Eagle Forum chapters across the West, including California, Arizona and Nevada, as well as Utah.

Bridge-building between Mormons and the conservative movement helps explain the Reagan administration’s push to hire many Mormons into the White House - which further cemented the alliance. That bond continues to lure Mormons to D.C.

Ruzicka, for one, continued in the political footsteps of her mother, arriving in Washington in her mid-20s to lead a nonprofit that promotes safe haven laws, which allow young mothers to legally abandon young children at fire stations.

Beyond hot-button social issues, U.S. Rep. Chaffetz says the Mormon faith engenders support for limited government.

“The church is very adamant about personal responsibility, and for people to voluntarily participate in service,” the Utah Republican says. “There’s this feeling that service is not something that should be mandated by government.”

The LDS Church, for its part, insists it is politically neutral and that it avoids pressuring Mormon elected officials to tow a church line. “The church’s mission is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, not to elect politicians,” the church’s website says.

Mormon experts say the church’s support for a relatively strict separation of church and state is born of the U.S. government’s refusal to help Mormons in the face of early persecution.

And after being accused of setting up a rival government around the turn of the last century, the church is loath to be seen giving marching orders to LDS politicians.

The church did, however, play a leading role in passing Prop 8, California’s gay marriage ban, in 2008. Church officials called it a moral cause, not a political one.

Plenty of critics disagree. But neither Mormon bishops nor church officials are known to lead the kind of church-based legislative lobbying efforts that Catholic bishops or evangelical leaders do.

Mitt Romney himself embodies the reluctance of Mormon politicians to connect their religion and their public policy positions, in contrast to politicians of other faiths.

That reluctance also appears to be born of anxiety over Americans’ lingering questions and doubts about Mormonism. When Pew asked Americans last year what word they associated with the Mormon faith, the most common response was “cult.”

In recent weeks, Romney’s newfound position as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has produced a mix of excitement and worry among Mormons. That’s especially true in Washington, where politically savvy Latter-day Saints send out frequent e-mail round-ups of Mormon media coverage to their LDS networks.

“A lot of us know it’s ultimately a good thing, but it’s hard to feel like it’s a good thing because so much of the publicity is about things you wouldn’t talk about in polite company, like my underwear,” says Pederson, referring to the enduring fascination with Mormon undergarments.

Like many conservatives, Pederson is suspicious of Romney.

“I don’t like his waffling, to put it gently, on life and family issues,” she says. “But if it comes down to Romney versus Obama, hand me the pom-poms. I’ll be president of the Romney-Is-the-Best-We-Can-Come-Up-With-for-President Club.”

For now, Pederson is working with the National Right to Life Committee’s political action committee to raise money for the Romney effort, even as she makes up her mind about how actively she wants to promote his candidacy.

Some of her calculus is about weighing political reality against her conservative idealism. And some of it is about her next professional move. It’s a very Washington place to be.

Video by CNN photojournalist Jeremy Moorhead

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints • DC • Jon Huntsman • Mitt Romney • Mormonism • Politics

soundoff (3,419 Responses)
  1. O.T.

    If you read through all 1400 comments posted on this story, you would think you would find one or two from Obama supporters who condemn the religious bigotry aimed at Romney and Mormons. That would be consistent with the views expressed by Obama in 2008. I have not read them all but have not seen any such condemnations. Will an Obama supporter please condemn them, or are all Obama supporters willing to elect him president on the basis of such bigotry?

    May 13, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Ronald Reganzo

      The majority of posts here are from qu-eers, atheists and foreigners, none of which are a voting block worth having. Obama laid one serious egg kissing up to the 1% and alienating and mobilizing 80% against himself.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • Jackman

      I am not an Obama supporter and I completely agree Mormans re a cult and they are a twisted religion that takes advantage of women,children,they have pre arranged marriages,molest kids,they pray to Joesoph smith,and the book of mormon,they are nnot christians they are cultists and they have been arrested all around this country for evil acts against women and children,they are a cult and they make a mockery out of the christian faith,these are some wackjobs in the first degree.,

      May 13, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • Conservative Christian

      I agree they are a cult,I am a Conservative Christian,I would have voted for Santorum but not the cultist Romney,and NEITHER WILL MY 2000 members at my church,WE SAY NO TO THE CULTS AND THE SICK PEOPLE THAT DISTORT THE BIBLE. We are not voting for anyone this year,maybe 2016 when a christian runs for office not a cult bishop.

      May 13, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
  2. John the Historian

    Will Romney start baptizing non-mormons and say they are mormon ?

    May 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • iqueue120

      Don't waste your time. Stupids don't vote.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
  3. Ronald Reganzo

    In a bizarre do over Romney will win awards because he is not Barak Obama.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
  4. John the Historian

    How many first ladies can the USA have ? If in the unlikely event he gets elected will his secret other wifes get a pension for being former first ladies ????

    May 13, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • O.T.

      We are waiting for an answer to the question about how Romney's Mormonism has impacted his use of power during his long professional and political career. Why no answer, just more hate and bigotry? Are we seeing through the slander?

      May 13, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • Someone that is aware!

      Romney only has one wife and the church he belongs to only allows one wife. You are thinking of an off chute of the church that would not respect the law of the land and formed their own reorganized church.

      May 13, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • Jacob

      I am a member of the LDS church. Why don't people just look at what's real about my religion? We are not polygamists. I swear that none of that is true. I live a happy life, and I believe with all of my heart that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true. No, it's not because I have been brainwashed, it's because I have gained a testimony of Jesus Christ, and I personally have felt the spirit of god in my life, and I know from MYSELF, that the LDS Church is true. I'm not asking you to accept what I believe, but I ask you to at least not say things that are not true. All of you claim to be more christian than us, but if you were really had those strong Christian beliefs, then you would know that Christ told his disciples to "... Love one another, as I have loved you..." -From the BIBLE (which we believe in). Christ goes as far as to say that Loving Others is a commandment, so please, if you are Christian, accept the fact that though we may be different than you (not in those many ways you hold against us) we are still God's children like everyone else. I know my savior lives, and I know that through him my sins can be forgiven.

      May 13, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
  5. Ridiculous

    I'm Christian and I hate to break it to you, but all religions have what seem to be "ridiculous claims" that they preach. Here are a few examples of things about Christianity that one can make sound ridiculous and idiotic: 1) All humanity came from only two people; genetically impossible 2) A snake spoke to this woman and told her to eat fruit that would give her all knowledge 3) A flood filled the ENTIRE earth in hundreds of feet of water 4) A guy died and came back as a zombie to preach to some Jews

    The only reason these might not seem crazy to you? You hear them all the time. They are widely taught to Christians. And you believe them. Don't mock other peoples' faith and belief even though it mind sound crazy to you. Our beliefs seem crazy, too, they have just been around for longer.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
  6. John the Historian

    Which of bible would Romney used on the unlikely event of getting elected ?

    May 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • O.T.

      Please name one instance in Romney's long professional or political career where his faith determined his course of action in a way detrimental to others. We will be waiting for the answer. If you don't have one, I would suggest that love is a better place to be than hate.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • dreamer96

      O.T.

      Your right... Being a Mormon had nothing to do with Romney avoiding the draft by going to France, or taking 180 million out of a company he bought with borrowed money, while Mitt ran Bain Capital, and paying himself millions for 6 months of work...Mitt's Mormon beliefs had nothing to do with any of that...

      May 13, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
  7. dreamer96

    This is nothing new
    The Mormons, are like the Catholics, the Freemasons, and the Church of Scientology, the Gays...They have members everywhere..

    May 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
  8. John the Historian

    But Brigham Young had non-mormons massacred !!!! Will Romney move the US capital to Nauvoo, Missouri ?

    May 13, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • heguido

      Do your math:
      Non-Mormons killed by Mormons: Mountain Meadows.
      Mormons killed by Non-mormons. Mountain Meadows, Navoo, Independence, Kirtland, Carthage... an a lot more. They were being attacked and killed everywhere. Once, they thought they must defend themselves, I really can't blame them.

      By the way... Keep doing your math:

      Non-mormons robbed, or r-ped by Mormons: None.
      Mormons robbed, or r-ped by Non-mormons: Thousands.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
  9. iqueue120

    Seeing all this people mocking religion is like seeing a bunch of blind people mocking colors.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • O.T.

      Or like a bunch of Nazis at Nuremberg shouting about the dirty Je=s. It's what happens when politicians and news networks use bigotry to win elections.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
  10. John the Historian

    Why don't mormon cult followers display those golden tablets ?

    May 13, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • O.T.

      Really, would you want your epitaph to read, "He was a religious bigot."

      May 13, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • dreamer96

      Mitt Romney is already going to the third level of Mormon Heaven..Mitt will get his own planet to rule over after he lives this world..

      May 13, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
  11. John the Historian

    Will Romney free Warren Jeffs on of their disciples if he becomes President ?

    May 13, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • O.T.

      Please name one instance in Romney's career where he used his power to advance the Mormon faith to the detriment of others. If you can't, then how about stopping the hate. You will be better off for it.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
  12. Welled

    I got news your all religous space rangers. A lot of you pray to Jesus he ain't even there. So at least underwear is real. Maybe you shouldn't pray to it of course. Religous people aren't a blight on mankind. However its difficult when you trip over them. Muslim nonsense God make the sunrise. Christian nonsense pray to God he will provide all. Well if you haven't noticed its already on the earth. You don't have to make it come to you. You go out and get it. I don't know who's nonsense is worse. You all practice some kind of sensory deprivation. Be it girls or food or obeying all authority or denying yourself because in the end you will get a re-ward. You have one life enjoy it. You all have a goal set. It's called the end. There the bad guys get theirs and well your a good guy so you get yours or maybe the bad guys get something good however its not as good as yours. It all ends the same way with you people. Take notice. Your just different victims of basically the same swindel that is published by the same people that print cash in many cases. That want you to go to work and be a good worker. Go and die bloody if nessesary if they want something and need you to grab a gun and help get it for them. You have their foundations donating to your causes and can't figure out why. You think they are hedging their bets. However they are the same people that loan money on your church buildings at exobitant rates. Thats called amortization. They of course want you to have a loan because well if you can get someone to pay for 30 years on a house that took only 3 months to build thats a sucker you just can't pass up. So give them your underwear, cloak, shirt, socks. Send your firstborn to school where they teach them the basics of running there empire. Which you think is a great idea in all your ignorance. They teach them nothing about being self-sustaining. So in the cascading flow of cash that is your monetary system that is nothing more than loans and lending. It will prepare them for a life working under that and being the same kind of debtor ole dad was till the bitter end.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
  13. UnmolestedMormonWoman

    I can't believe how many of you claim that the mormon church teaches molestation and abuse and slavery of women. I am a woman, and have been an active mormon my entire life (I'm 35 years old) and have NEVER NEVER been molested or enslaved or abused. Quite the opposite. I've been taught to love and serve others, regardless of what they might believe or how or even if they choose to worship. I've been encouraged, by my religion, to go to other churches, to read diverse books, to study other cultures, to be educated. I've been taught that women are sacred and revered, and we should be proud to be strong daughters of our Heavenly Father. Because of these things I chose to serve a mission, to become politically active (I'm a Democrat), to marry later in life and be a beacon for women who see the things that I do, and I have never been anything other than encouraged by my religious leaders. Many were in attendance when I chose to marry a Catholic man. They were happy for me. They congratulated me. They love him, and accept him, and have never pressured him to become a mormon. Like I said, I served a mission, my brothers served missions, my father has held many different leadership positions within the church, and at no point in time have we ever heard or shared a belief in favor of mistreating women or children or ANYONE for that matter. Those of you stating that you know what we do because you learned it in YOUR church, should really question the validity of your OWN faith. Not mine.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • O.T.

      It is religious bigotry promoted in the interest of Obama's reelection, and he should condemn it in no uncertain terms. If he does not, can liberals honestly say that his behavior is morally superior to that of George Bush, who took great pains to condemn bigotry against Muslims in the wake of 9/11.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • Conservative Christian

      Im sure thats what your church brainwashed you into saying lol,Mormans are a cult period

      May 13, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
  14. Leah

    I wish people in this nation would use the brains that were given them and stop soaking in all the false hoods from others about Mormonism.
    Unfortunately the insults and misconceptions about our beliefs are a bunch of crap and all of you are too ignorant to find out if the LDS are actually christian or good people. I expected persecution from anti-Mormon people when Romney began to run for president, and even though this page is full of lies, you won't ever stop what is true. Each comment is proof that you aren't truly Christian or you would have charity to all instead of tearing down a religion that doesn't persecute you.
    We have dealt with persecution for years so have fun making stuff up that isn't true.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
    • Conservative Christian

      yeah I see the morman magical underwear has possed you too lol.You can be blind to it all you want but the LDS is pretty bad they just are supersecrete in their dealings,they are a cult,they are wackos,they are molesters and womanbeaters.

      May 13, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
  15. Peter

    Remember Mormonism is a cult, not recognized by even other so called mainstream denominations, All freaks, the only magic underwear I own has no skid marks!

    May 13, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
    • O.T.

      You are preaching religious bigotry. You will be happier if you love rather than hate. Look at the facts. Romney has had a long business and political career. Name one instance when he tried to impose his religious beliefs on anyone.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • P. O. Carl

      Remember "Peter" is ill informed, and not recognized by any intelligent person.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
  16. iqueue120

    The mormons arrived to Washington. Should have guessed it, seeing the outspread of kindergartens.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
  17. O.T.

    If one were to go by this message board, it seems like those opposed to Romney stand for everything that Barack Obama campaigned against in 2008. The anti-Mormon comments are divisive, slanderous, hateful, and bigoted. Will the president condemn them or remain quiet b/c of the political advantage gained? His response will be revealing of his character, and I hope he chooses right over bigotry, especially if he serves in the White House four more years.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • Ted Aston

      According to the Watchmaker, the newsletter of the Jehovah's Mormons, the Bible says that true Christians should not be involved in Politics.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • iqueue120

      Jehova Mormons? I thought they were all killed by the Zoroastrian Mormons!

      May 13, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
  18. n8263

    It is immoral to impose your religious superstition on others.

    You do not believe in religion because you honestly think it is true, you believe in it because you fear mortality or are seeking meaning in your life. It does not take a genius to figure out all religion is man made, so for humanity's sake, please stop lying to yourself.

    Deluding yourself in religion does not change reality. Lying to yourself is probably the worst possible way to try to find meaning.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • MikeB

      It is also immoral to malign cultures you don't agree with.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
  19. Conservative Christian

    I dont want a president who believes or wears MORMAN MAGICAL UNDERWEAR, they believe their underwear protects them from evil lol.What will Romney do when facing Iran go pray in his magical underwear and hope his powers of Joesoph Smith and his underwear will protect us from terrorists lol. This is some messed up crazy cprapola that shows anyone who believes this should be seeing a shrink lol. Romney is a cultist period. I am a republican but I will not sell out my religious beliefs to put a cultist liar in office! I will wait till 2016 hopefully an honest christian will be running instead of underwear boy.

    May 13, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • O.T.

      This is rank religious bigotry and name-calling. It is no different that the Nazi propaganda of the 1930s or the White Supremacy of the southern segregationists. Your hate hurts others but yourself is well. Take time to think about the legacy you leave by preaching hate.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • MikeB

      And you don't carry a magical cross?
      For anyone to have an emblem of their commitments and actually honor them is 'Magic'.
      Fortunately, Mitt isn't sticking his emblems in our faces.
      Do you even comprehend what it means to be Christian? Or are you just a poser being an agitator?

      May 13, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • Scott P.

      And I don't want bigoted morons that don't even know how to spell the nickname of the religion they are so sadly misinformed about voting on the city dog catcher, much less President of the United States. Go troll somewhere else, Christian. If you're a Christian with your hatred, I'm an atheist.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • Ridiculous

      This article might make you think twice about making fun of Mormons' under garments:

      Mit Romney's Underwear: http://www.wham1180.com/pages/boblonsberry.html?article=10037569

      May 13, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
  20. mormons c0rnh0le choir boys and blow boys scouts

    if mitt becomes potus...i hope someone pulls a jfk on his sorry a$$

    May 13, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • MikeB

      Aren't you a poster child for civility.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:19 pm |
    • Scott P.

      You are an idiot, and I wouldn't be surprised if the secret service pays you a visit in the near future.

      May 13, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
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