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Is the black church guilty of spiritual hypocrisy in same-sex marriage debate?
Delman Coates at Mt. Ennon Baptist Church is among a minority of black ministers in Maryland who have endorsed gay rights.
May 12th, 2012
08:00 AM ET

Is the black church guilty of spiritual hypocrisy in same-sex marriage debate?

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - Some people wonder if the black church will punish President Barack Obama for announcing support for same-sex marriage.

Here’s another question:

Why would the black church cite scripture to exclude gays when a similar approach to the Bible was used to enslave their ancestors?

“It’s so unfortunate,” says James Cone, one the nation’s most influential black theologians and author of “The Cross and the Lynching Tree.”

“The literal approach to scripture was used to enslave black people,” he says. “I’ve said many times in black churches that the black church is on the wrong side of history on this. It’s so sad because they were on the right side of history in their own struggle.”

Call it historical irony: Black church leaders arguing against same-sex marriage are making some of the same arguments that supporters of slavery made in the 18th and 19th centuries, some historians say. Both groups adopted a literal reading of the Bible to justify withholding basic rights from a particular group.

CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories

Opposition to gay rights is not the standard position of all black churches. Still, while several predominately white mainline denominations have officially accepted gays and lesbians in various forms, the vast majority of black churches still consider homosexuality a sin.

Black church leaders recently helped lead a successful drive to amend North Carolina’s constitution to ban same-sex marriage. The Rev. Fred Robinson, a black pastor in Charlotte, says most black churchgoers aren’t hypocrites. They take scripture, and sin, seriously.

“Black people are not confused,” Robinson says. “If you look at the scriptures that oppose homosexuality, Old and New Testament, they are clearer cut than the ones people used to justify slavery.”

Yet there are other factors beyond the Bible that shape the black church’s resistance to same-sex marriage.

“It’s more than scripture – it’s history, culture, how we were raised,” says the Rev. Tim McDonald, founder of the African American Ministers Leadership Council.

Some black church leaders are still fighting hard just to persuade straight black couples to marry. Accepting same-sex marriage when so many black households lack a husband and wife makes McDonald uneasy.

“I am not comfortable performing a wedding ceremony of the same sex,” says McDonald, an Obama supporter. “That’s just where I am.”

Some black pastors, however, embrace a literal approach to the Bible not just to exclude gays but to get rid of competition, says Edward Blum, a San Diego State University historian.

Some black pastors cite New Testament passages such as Paul’s demand that women keep silent in churches to argue against black women in the pulpit.

That argument is harder to make when black women’s energy and donations form the backbone of the black church, Blum says, but some still get away with it.

“The biblical literalist reading has kept male leadership in power in a church that is hugely female,” Blum says. “It keeps power in men’s hands.”

The one book that mattered

Black churches also embrace a literal reading of the scripture because of its unique history, says Blum, author of “W.E.B. DuBois, American Prophet.”

During slavery and segregation, many blacks saw the Bible as the one document they could trust. The Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, state and local laws – all found some way to ignore their humanity, Blum says.

The Bible, though, was one book that told them that they weren’t slaves or three-fifths of a person, Blum says.

It said they were children of God.

“Throughout the 18th and 19th century, what document could they trust?” Blum says. “When the Bible says it’s so, it’s something that black people believed they could trust.”

Their enemies, though, used that same veneration of the Bible against them. Slaveholders had a simple but powerful argument when critics challenged them: Trust the Bible.

They cited scriptures such as Ephesians 6:5. (“Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling. ...”) And they said Jesus preached against many sins, but never against slavery.

Since the Bible is infallible, and scripture sanctions slavery, it must be part of God’s order, slaveholders concluded.

“Slavery is everywhere in the Bible,” Blum says. “When Americans who were in favor of slavery defended it with the Bible, they had a treasure trove of clear biblical passages that accepted enslavement.”

Blum says abolitionists found it difficult to mount an effective counterargument. They couldn’t just say trust the Bible. They preached another approach to scriptures.

They said you couldn’t enslave people based on the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do to you. (Obama cited the Golden Rule and his Christian faith in supporting same-sex marriage).

“The abolitionist turned to the ethics and spirit of the Bible,” Blum says. “They were theological modernists before modernism.”

And what are black clergy and churchgoers today when they cite the Bible to oppose same-sex marriage?

Robinson, the North Carolina pastor, says they’re not homophobes.

“It says in the Bible that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God,” he says. “How do you explain that one away? A lot of honest Christians are not trying to hate homosexuals. They’re saying that if I take the Bible seriously, I’m not sure I can say it’s right.”

Robinson says that some opposition to homosexuality is actually based in compassion:

“If I’m concerned about your soul, I have to tell you the truth in love.”

Cone, who teaches at Union Theological Seminary in New York City, says black churchgoers opposed to same-sex marriage are instead mimicking their ancestors’ oppressors.

“I tell some people, ‘These people were against you.’ They would have lynched you. How are you going to now join them and help them lynch somebody else?’”

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Barack Obama • Christianity • Culture wars • Gay marriage • Gay rights • Homosexuality • Politics

soundoff (4,348 Responses)
  1. Steve

    If the states want to allow for civil unions, more power to them. However, "marriage" is a religious term for the joining a man and a woman and should left as is. Don't try to redefine it in none religious terms.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      wrong.

      get married in a church with church approval but without a gov't issued marriage license = not legally married
      get married in a courthouse without church approval but with a gov't issued marriage license = legally married

      you can add ritual and ceremony to a marriage, but it's not necessary. marriage is a legally binding contract between two people - who cares if it's a man and a woman, two men or two women?

      keep your religious views out of people's private lives!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      hey steve how i Adam doing,... never mind just stoped by to say my religions defines marriage as a union between two Kami that makes them one...so your argument falls apart there

      on to the report. i have been saying this for years but lets look at a few of these passages

      However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

      Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

      Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

      May 12, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      also my religion is older then yours so quite saying you god created things when your god wasn't created when we difind marriage

      May 12, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  2. Bootyfunk

    blacks have been brain washed into adopting their captor's religion. sadly, even after being freed, blacks willingly get on their knees for a white man. leave the cult of christianity.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • YBP

      It's even worse than that. If Jesus, a Jew, existed, and if he were alive today, 2000 years later, he still wouldn't speak with, eat with, or accidently brush up against a person of color for fear of becoming unclean.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  3. Erik

    Liars are telling us that gay rights is a civil rights issue, but it actually is a matter of morality and self-control, just like adultery, theft, and other behaviors popular among humans but declared by God to be evil. No matter what behaviors you might think come naturally to you, our Glorious Creator gave us moral laws to follow so that we could be right with Him. It is sad to see that so many people hate God and His truth. This is a spiritual matter. Repent. Change into what God wants you to be. It takes time and effort, but The Lord will bless you for it.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Janine from TX

      Try getting an education. You are very twisted and ignorant.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • YeahRight

      "Liars are telling us that gay rights is a civil rights issue"

      Because it is since gay couples deserve the same civil rights as straights. These rights include:

      Tax Benefits
      -–Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
      -–Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

      Estate Planning Benefits
      -–Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
      -–Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
      -–Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
      -–Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse – that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

      Government Benefits
      -–Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
      -–Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
      -–Receiving public as-sistance benefits.
      -–Employment Benefits
      -–Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
      -–Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
      -–Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
      -–Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

      Medical Benefits
      -–Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
      -–Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

      Death Benefits
      -–Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
      -–Making burial or other final arrangements.

      Family Benefits
      -–Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
      -–Applying for joint foster care rights.
      -–Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
      -–Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

      Housing Benefits
      -–Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
      -–Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.

      Consumer Benefits
      -–Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
      -–Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
      -–Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.
      -–Other Legal Benefits and Protections
      -–Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
      -–Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
      -–Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
      -–Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
      -–Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
      -–Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

      "but it actually is a matter of morality and self-control,"

      Gays deserve to have the same loving relationships as straights. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured.'

      This just shows your opinion is based on lies and all you are doing is fueling the hate and bigotry towards this group, You are nothing like your Christ. What a hypocrite.

      May 13, 2012 at 10:36 am |
  4. paparachi

    Now we are all talking about something other than the real issues affecting America. Like the economy and jobs. Nice job, well done.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • Observer

      Thank the Republicans in North Carolina.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • sybaris

      There are plenty of other blogs and forums to talk about other issues.

      What are you, Republican?

      May 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • LocoATL

      Are you only capable of talking about one thing at a time? Do you spend every waking hour talking about the economy and jobs?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
    • History

      Once again John Blake and CNN show they know nothing about the Bible. LOL

      May 12, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
  5. VLJH

    The existence of law is what defines sin. God said if there's no law, there's no breaking of the law, or sin. God gave us the Bible, His word, so that we would know what is right and what is wrong. Our faith in God is the basis for our belief. Christians who follow God's laws know that not everyone agrees with us or believes what we believe. However, our allegiance is to God and we obey Him. That's faith. I know intellectually that I'm living on the outer crust of a ball that is balanced in space attached to nothing, rotating on its axis at 913.56 miles per hour while, at the same time, rotating around the sun at 67,000 mph, and my hair doesn't even get mussed because of either of these constant events. All it would take to end all life on earth is for either of these constant speeds to change and we'd become nothing. I trust in the one who keeps it all together. If you doubt that God is in control, prove that He isn't. Faith. How many of us, when we leave the house every morning, get both the car keys and the jumper cables; or do we just turn the key in the ignition by...faith? We all have some measure of it.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
    • Observer

      Go to a busy intersection. Close your eyes. Cross the street. Tell me about faith when you get to the other corner.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • Kevin in Atlanta

      This is a terrible argument. You ask those that don't believe in God to prove that God isn't in control of the universe we live in. Yet, that accusation is based on the fact that God actually exist. Can you prove that? Of course you can't as by your own admission you simply go on "faith". Faith by its definition lacks proof.

      And the analogy of having faith in my car starting in the morning is completely inaccurate. I know my car exists. I can see it, feel it, get inside of it, and modify it at my will. I have faith my car works because I know the processes that allow a combustion engine to work properly. I have faith in my car working because I have prove that my car exists in working condition. And if it ever fails, I know how to fix it or I know someone that can fix it.

      People have no faith in a higher power because there is absolutely no proof of his existence or how "He" works. It's all "Faith".

      I respect that you have faith, that's your choice as an adult with free will. But atleast be able to explain it better.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • sybaris

      You clearly need to take a course in auto mechanics.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses

      One question .. WHY is it that you believe God is in control and "the one who keeps it all together"? A simple question, why is it God?

      May 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      there is no such thing as sin. that is a disgusting concept that promotes fear, guilt and ignorance.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
  6. Mr. K

    If they legalize their marriages and let the gay people to adopt children, to which one them should a child say “Happy mother’s day” on mother’s day, or “Happy father’s day” on father’s day? I guess we have to change the definition of “Male” and “Female”, “Mom” and “Dad”. It should not be legalized period. If they want to leave together, let them do that and they are free of their choices.
    If I have a child and comes to me and say; dad, I think I am gay, I will say; you are not gay son, I think you are sick, and you need to see doctors.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
    • satan

      You should kill yourself. Your not fit to raise children.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • Observer

      Based on the reports from the TENS of THOUSANDS of professionals, you are the one with issues.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • sybaris

      Mr. K, those are issues in your own mind.

      Raise YOUR family the way YOU see fit and don't dictate to others how to do it.

      If how another persons child interprets Mothers Day puts you in a tizzy then you obviously have larger personal issues to deal with.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • Lilith

      So, you don't care if they live together why don't you want them to marry .. what difference does that ceremony make in life? Then you reference kids, what do kids have to do with marriage?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • Truth7

      "SATAN" – only you would wish someone dead and think others are unfit to raise children.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • Bookemdanno

      Truth7 -that happens to be EXACTLY what YOU are doing! YOU are the "Satan" that you point at! You are BUSTED!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Mr. K

      Observer,
      Thousands of professionals think polygamy is OK, should we legalize that too?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • JKhur

      And which thousands of professinaols are those Mr. K?

      May 12, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
  7. SallyinChicago

    Well, I think black church people are more opposed to being gay. Period.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  8. fearmonger

    The 1st amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  9. CableNewsNetwork

    With the contradictions in the Holy Bible, even biblical literalists are forced to reinterpret many massages.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • n8362

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk&w=640&h=360]

      May 12, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • Laila

      The Bible does not have any contradictions.

      The Bible interprets the Bible, so if you are pulling scriptures without understanding the context it is being given you would think that it contradicts. People who say this are showing that they are ignorant of the Bible and have no relationship with God.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • satan

      Laila
      That is the most idiotic retort I have ever read. The fact is the bible contradicts its self so many times its stupid. The bible is a joke. Deal with it. Circular reasoning can not explain away the idiocy of the bible.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Observer

      Laila,

      The Bible can't even get the order of the days of creation consistent. You really should read the Bible sometime.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Sonny King

      God cannot be in opposition to Himself. When we see a perceived "contradiction" in the Bible – it is a sign of our humanness, our inability to see things through God's eyes. In those areas, we should act with great caution... if at all. In addition, I've found that study of the Bible often clarifies supposed "contradictions". Unfortunately, both Christian's and non-Christians attempt to use the Bible to justify their own opinions, rather than building an opinion based on good study, prayer, and Christian fellowship. The Bible is not God's only word. He speaks to us through prayer, communion, and the voices of others.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
  10. Goddard6

    Truth7 – You are a bigot and have no idea what you are talking about. Gay and Lesbian parents are LESS likely to molest there children then straight parents. If you want to get really racist look at the number of hispanic and black rates of molestation. So please stop taking the bible literally. It was written by man and was written to suppress man as well. All religions were created to control man. Step out of your closed mind.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • Truth7

      I don't think you can read. The adults in the survey had been mo.les.ted as children. They did not do it themselves.

      The only closed mind is the one who has outright rejected God.

      And, since you seem to be all about listening to man for your answers, you certainly don't want to face up to scientific fact.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • Anna

      You are pretty much a bigot as well.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  11. Rainer Braendlein

    Every healthy, normal marriage is a metaphor for the relationship between Christ and his Church. Every gay marriage cannot be more than a metaphore for the relationship between Satan and his wretched swine.

    In order to get the topic of gay marriage and gayness right, we have to understand the relation between God and natural human beings in general.

    Our basic problem is that we don't trust God. We are not utterly convinced that he loves us.

    Actually, if we would watch the stars, the sun and the moon, heaven and earth, sweet animals, plants and our fellow human beings, we should conclude that God is a loving God, which seeks our happiness. Although the Creation is not still in its perfect genuine state, it still shows us God's eternal power and godhead. Actually, we should regard the Creation as a kind of gospel (good news). God created a world for us, in which we should be happy in his presence. He made a wife for us and sweet animals, so that we might not feel lonely.

    We want to have got all goods, but don't seek the giver of the good gifts. The ancient Romans and Greeks worshipped their idols like Zeus, Hermes, etc. and we worship the Mammon, which is the God of materialism and capitalism. Then we wonder, why we have a lack of certain things, which we need to be happy. The Mammon is an evil demon, which doesn't seek our happy life, but our destruction and death.

    In a word, in order to become happy, we need to return to the Source of Life, which is God. We can be happy, only if we are connected with the Source of happiness and life, which is God himself.

    How can we know that God is a loving God, who seeks our happiness?

    God proved his love by a second revelation beside the Creation. God delivered his beloved Son for our sins and raised him from the dead for our justification. Ain't we sinners? We adore Mammon day by day, instead of the Lord, the Eternal God, which has made heaven and earth. Yet, this heavy sin can get forgiven and we can released from this sin by the gospel of Jesus Christ. The gospel of Jesus Christ convinces us of God's infinite love and we adore him instead of Mammor or any other idol (Mahomet, pope, cheap-grace-Jesus and the like).

    After we have returned into a confident relationship with the Eternal God by the gospel of Jesus Christ, we become able to trust him that he even may give us everything, which we need, even a wife.

    And this is, what the gays need. They need a restoration of their confidence in God. This could help them to control the lust of their body and wait up to the day, when they meet their wife, which God has predetermined for them.

    As the faith, which we can produce by reason, is very small, God gave us the sacramental baptism. At baptism we receive a person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit, which gives us a strong faith in Christ and the Father. The Spirit is stronger than our sinful body and if we invite him day by day, he uses our body, which is dead in itself, as a tool of righteousness. By the impact of the Spirit sinners by nature become holy people, because the holy divine nature is stronger than our sinful human nature. Its only important that we daily remember our health in Christ.

    Conclusion:

    Gays should neither marry each other, nor go to church, but repent and believe in Christ, who has borne their sins, when he died for them on the cross. After they have started to believe, God will give them a wife and implant them into his holy Church.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • Drew

      I reject your premise based on your first line. This isn't a Christian nation.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • Laila

      This is a Christian nation.

      It was formed according to principles taken directly from Holy Scripture. You may not be a Christian, but this nation was created from Christian principles and that is something that cannot and will not be changed.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • Goddard6

      The weak pray to their "God" every night to protect them and for salvation and the strong rule the weak.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Marriage is a contract between people who chose to share their lives. It is older than your bible and your god, and serves to protect the legal rights of the couple. It is immoral to deny people these protections on the basis of you personal mythology.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
      • Rainer Braendlein

        Jesus, the Lord, said that marriage was insti-tuted by God himself. I believe Jesus Christ's statement:

        "What God has connected, man shall not divorce!", Jesus said.

        May 12, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
    • Drew

      This is a humanist nation. Freedom is a humanist idea

      May 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • mike

      we have had equal rights for everyone in Canada now for 8 years including marriage. It hasnt hurt anyone. Some in the US are just bigoted thats all. Its so easy to try to uses the bible to justify things. The bible is just a book people it says many things about many people you can justify just about anything if you pick the right passage..give me a break. Bigotry and hypocrisy reigns in the country of supposed freedom.."life liberty and the pursuit of happiness"..not so much america at least not for everybody..,you should be ashamed. But then again if you believe that we all came from Adam and Eve i guess I can understand this narrow thinking

      May 12, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
    • Unequal

      Every healthy, normal marriage is a metaphor for the relationship between Christ and his Church. Every interracial marriage cannot be more than a metaphore for the relationship between Satan and his wretched swine.

      In order to get the topic of interracial marriage and blacks right, we have to understand the relation between God and natural human beings in general.

      Our basic problem is that we don't trust God. We are not utterly convinced that he loves us.

      Actually, if we would watch the stars, the sun and the moon, heaven and earth, sweet animals, plants and our fellow human beings, we should conclude that God is a loving God, which seeks our happiness. Although the Creation is not still in its perfect genuine state, it still shows us God's eternal power and godhead. Actually, we should regard the Creation as a kind of gospel (good news). God created a world for us, in which we should be happy in his presence. He made blacks for us and sweet animals, so that we might not feel lonely and have slaves to work our fields.

      We want to have got all goods, but don't seek the giver of the good gifts. The ancient Romans and Greeks worshipped their idols like Zeus, Hermes, etc. and we worship the Mammon, which is the God of materialism and capitalism. Then we wonder, why we have a lack of certain things, which we need to be happy. The Mammon is an evil demon, which doesn't seek our happy life, but our destruction and death.

      In a word, in order to become happy, we need to return to the Source of Life, which is God. We can be happy, only if we are connected with the Source of happiness and life, which is God himself.

      How can we know that God is a loving God, who seeks our happiness?

      God proved his love by a second revelation beside the Creation. God delivered his beloved Son for our sins and raised him from the dead for our justification. Ain't we sinners? We adore Mammon day by day, instead of the Lord, the Eternal God, which has made heaven and earth. Yet, this heavy sin can get forgiven and we can released from this sin by the gospel of Jesus Christ. The gospel of Jesus Christ convinces us of God's infinite love and we adore him instead of Mammor or any other idol (Mahomet, pope, cheap-grace-Jesus and the like).

      After we have returned into a confident relationship with the Eternal God by the gospel of Jesus Christ, we become able to trust him that he even may give us everything, which we need, even a wife or a slave.

      And this is, what the blacks need. They need a restoration of their confidence in God. This could help them to control the lust of their body and wait up to the day, when they meet their wife or slave, which God has predetermined for them.

      As the faith, which we can produce by reason, is very small, God gave us the sacramental baptism. At baptism we receive a person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit, which gives us a strong faith in Christ and the Father. The Spirit is stronger than our sinful body and if we invite him day by day, he uses our body, which is dead in itself, as a tool of righteousness. By the impact of the Spirit sinners by nature become holy people, because the holy divine nature is stronger than our sinful human nature. Its only important that we daily remember our health in Christ.

      Conclusion:

      Blacks and whites should neither marry each other, nor go to church, but repent and believe in Christ, who has borne their sins, when he died for them on the cross. After they have started to believe, God will give them a wife and a slave and implant them into his holy Church.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
      • Rainer Braendlein

        I am white, but assume that my soul is black.

        May 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  12. paparachi

    Leave it to CNN to come out with this baloney. The bible promotes slavery? These people are truly desperate. Nice distraction. By the way; where are the jobs????

    May 12, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Drew

      read the article. The bible was OFTEN used to support slavery

      May 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • DeTamble

      *** By the way; where are the jobs????

      Yeah, where are the jobs the Republicans ran on to put the Tea Party nuts in congress ?
      We are still waiting, oh wait,
      they keep blocking job bills from the Dems.
      Never mind.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • paparachi

      This administration was approved how many trillions? They took over GM. They got their healthcare reform. Nothing has been blocked. Its their baby.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • mike

      this is a very narrow bigoted reply

      May 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • CommonSense

      You've obviously never read the bible.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • GLCarmine

      The Bible didn't promote slavery, but in various verses of the New Testament it tried to give guidance as to how to ethically treat those in that position. But, keep in mind, some of these New Testament areas are controversial because they are Pauline books and there is discussion as to whether these books can be indirectly attributed to the Apostle or not. Which makes the larger point that, if one considers when it was written, the ethical guidance of the Bible becomes easier to relate to and translate than the actual social and cultural rules of that time (owning slaves, stoning children, etc).

      Both religious and science related authorities worked with politics to justify slavery – this is nothing new.

      By the way, GOP senators filibustered over 400 bills in Obama's first 2 years alone, and many of these bills would have directed the stimulus money more effectively. Add this to other obstructionist tactics that stall a bill on the floor of either house Congress, with them never to return to it, and you've had a lot of legislation that has prevented Congress from being truly functional.

      http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=senate+filibusters+400+bills&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

      May 12, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  13. Peteyroo

    "Love your neighbor as yourself" unless of course he is different and you don't like him, right?

    May 12, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Laila

      That goes toward h-m-s-u-l-s that are anti-Christian.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • Truth7

      Guess who your neighbor is according to Jesus? It's the one who chooses to do RIGHT, not those who choose to do wrong.

      Please read it.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
  14. My Children

    Now that Barack Obama supports Gay marriage, we are noticing a lot of people are against gay marriage. But those people who are opposing gay marriage were brain wash by their religion. I am religious, but I don't let my religious beliefs or knowledge of marriage be run by my religion. I was born with both parents a mom and a dad. I was raised to believe that marriage is between a man and women, but you know why that is the reason is because of religion. Religion has taken over us. That's the religion believe and that's what you should follow because since you were a kid you were brain wash that marriage should be between a man and I women. But in reality humans don't know. GOD's intention was when he sent his only son to die. Jesus died for our sins and forgave everyone for their intentions because they didn't know better. He said "Father please forgive them for they know not what they do." Yes I'm quoting . People have being brainwash by their religion, GOD never intended for humans to run an organization that would preach to him, but in a hypocritical way. I'm talking about religion. GOD's intention was for everyone to be in peace, but in reality he knew there will never be peace between humans. As soon as Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden fruit. He knew that humans were the only ones who would survive between themselves. GOD knew that 1 in every 5 humans a least one will be smart about their choices and judgements and criticisms against another Human and their believes. GOD knew that they where going to kill his only son if he was sent to earth, Jesus Christ knew what was going to happen to him. Jesus never judged or criticize us for what we did to him. I mean us because we are the humans who kill GOD's only child. Jesus never judge us for his death, he even told his father to please for give us because we don't know what we did. Now in 2012 we are seeing people from different believes trying to be against marriage when it comes between a man and a man, women or women. People have to start seeing the big picture because we are one, we got to put our differences and be in peace. People might disagree with me and I know theirs still people out there that don't know what they are doing. So please look at the past, we have seeing a lot of damage because of our differences from religion to ethnicity. Please Father Forgive them for they don't know what they are doing. If I must die again for my children then it should be. Please my children learn from the past and please don't believe what politicians or others humans say about you. I die for you once and I will die again for my children. All I want in return is to forgive those who judge you as you wish they forgive you for your wrongs.

    Religion was created by Humans and the bible written by a human being. So please stop with all the hatred that GOD said this about marriage because everything is just written by human beings not GOD. And we already know how human being are, they judge, criticize, torment other humans believes.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Laila

      The Bible was created by God, and written down by men who received every word of it from God. There is a difference between religion and relationship with God. God doesn't like religion either, He wants relationship.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • DeTamble

      *** Laila

      The Bible was created by God,.............................

      The bible was created by Constantine, not God.
      You are silly.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • Goddard6

      @Laila you got it wrong. you said the bible is the word of god written by man. Yes it was written by man, interpreted by man, used by man to hurt and kill in the name of god. So don't tell me MAN didn't put his own selfish twist on that D_A_M_N book.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
    • Sonny King

      "the Bible was created by humans"..... an interesting point of view. IF so.... it is the singular most influential work of fiction in all humankind. And if for no other reason that its longevity, impact on societal development, and influence.... I would think YOU would be extremely interested in what it says and even why it says it.

      However, I suspect that its far easier for you to attempt to justify your own opinions by discounting any source of wisdom other than your own.

      I've found there is often nothing more close minded – and yet hypocritical in calling others the same – than the "humanist".

      So let's find out if you are human or capable of faith.

      Have you ever been in love?

      May 12, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
  15. n8362

    It is immoral to impose your religious superstition on others.

    You do not believe in religion because you honestly think it is true, you believe in it because you fear mortality or are seeking meaning in your life. It does not take a genius to figure out all religion is man made, so for humanity's sake, please stop lying to yourself.

    Deluding yourself in religion does not change reality. Lying to yourself is probably the worst possible way to try to find meaning.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Truth7

      Ummm....why do you keeping copying and pasting the same comment? Are you one of the paid shills trying to corrupt this country?

      May 12, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • n8362

      What comment?

      May 12, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • Sonny King

      It is immoral to force your lack of vision on others.

      Your inability to acknowledge your own lack of knowledge and the possibility that you just might be wrong, only serves to perpetuate a closed minded approach to the world.

      It would seem that your anti-religious fervor borders on religious fervor.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
  16. J R Brown

    Why are churches even talking about civil rights? Jesus taught to be worried about earning rewards in heaven and sharing His story to all mankind...He said things like "Bless them that curse you" and "turn the other cheek". A Christian should not even believe in civil rights...civil rights are a fabrication of a secular methodology and have NOTHING to do with serving God or bring His message to unbelievers.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
  17. Laila

    There is no hypocrisy.

    The s-l-avery this article is referencing is a man made system of violence.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Drew

      How does that rule out the hypocrisy? I guess blacks shouldn't have tried to resist that "man-made system of violence," at least according to the bible

      May 12, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
  18. Ronnie Harper

    Religion is a pox on humanity; a disease of the mind.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • Drew

      I'd say organized religion is unfortunate, but we don't want to rule out authentic individual religious experiences

      May 12, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      I agree.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • g0d

      Amen!

      May 12, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
  19. tim

    CNN has become as left wing as MSNBC. It's rubbish.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Aw, poor tim, CNN doesn't agree with him. Well, I guess it's back to Fox for you! At least you can depend on a Rupert Murdoch-owned media outlet to bring only the highest moral standards to the table.... Oh yeah. I forgot about the whole criminal mess Rupes found himself in, what with illegal wiretaps, hacking and bribes. Well, at least you can count on Fox to tell you exactly what you want to hear.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Chris B

      Yeah, FOX is the only "non-mainstream" mainstream news out there now,

      I always felt it appropriate that it was featured in the movie "Idiocracy"

      May 12, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • paparachi

      You hit it right on the head, Tim.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • DeTamble

      Tim, dont come here, problem solved.
      Moron.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • Truth7

      All promoting the same destruction of this country. The end is nigh.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  20. Truth7

    "In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood mo.les.tation than did straight men and women."

    Men: 46% gay vs. 7% straight
    Women: 22% gay vs 1% straight

    Other studies show even higher rates of correlation. People aren't "born" this way, they were "made" that way by evil men. Why do you think they now place gay people on every tv show and in all media? They are mo.lest.ing you know. People need prayer, love and God to heal, and the true perv.erts need to be locked up.

    May 12, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Roger

      Your conclusion is not supported by the facts. You're imposing your own preconceptions on the data. Consider that it is just possible that the molestation of the gay and lesbian children could have been the RESULT of them being gay and lesbian, that other children or adults could have treated them poorly precisely BECAUSE they were gay and lesbian.

      You are concluding that the gayness was a RESULT of the molestation when in fact it could just as well have been the CAUSE of the molestation.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      I'm wondering if you aren't the pervert.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Here is a nice overview of studies that indicate the real causes of hom.ose.xuality (just remove the extra spaces). You could have found this yourself, but I'm more than happy to help you with your education. You may want to pay special attention to the physical differences in brain construction between gays and straights.

      http://allpsych.com/journal/hom ose xuality.html

      The truth is important, don't you think?

      May 12, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • you've slipped truth 7

      Who is wicked truth 7? People who want to lock up the perverts?

      May 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • Going In Circles

      92% of people who post statistics make them up as they go.

      May 12, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
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