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Is the black church guilty of spiritual hypocrisy in same-sex marriage debate?
Delman Coates at Mt. Ennon Baptist Church is among a minority of black ministers in Maryland who have endorsed gay rights.
May 12th, 2012
08:00 AM ET

Is the black church guilty of spiritual hypocrisy in same-sex marriage debate?

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - Some people wonder if the black church will punish President Barack Obama for announcing support for same-sex marriage.

Here’s another question:

Why would the black church cite scripture to exclude gays when a similar approach to the Bible was used to enslave their ancestors?

“It’s so unfortunate,” says James Cone, one the nation’s most influential black theologians and author of “The Cross and the Lynching Tree.”

“The literal approach to scripture was used to enslave black people,” he says. “I’ve said many times in black churches that the black church is on the wrong side of history on this. It’s so sad because they were on the right side of history in their own struggle.”

Call it historical irony: Black church leaders arguing against same-sex marriage are making some of the same arguments that supporters of slavery made in the 18th and 19th centuries, some historians say. Both groups adopted a literal reading of the Bible to justify withholding basic rights from a particular group.

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Opposition to gay rights is not the standard position of all black churches. Still, while several predominately white mainline denominations have officially accepted gays and lesbians in various forms, the vast majority of black churches still consider homosexuality a sin.

Black church leaders recently helped lead a successful drive to amend North Carolina’s constitution to ban same-sex marriage. The Rev. Fred Robinson, a black pastor in Charlotte, says most black churchgoers aren’t hypocrites. They take scripture, and sin, seriously.

“Black people are not confused,” Robinson says. “If you look at the scriptures that oppose homosexuality, Old and New Testament, they are clearer cut than the ones people used to justify slavery.”

Yet there are other factors beyond the Bible that shape the black church’s resistance to same-sex marriage.

“It’s more than scripture – it’s history, culture, how we were raised,” says the Rev. Tim McDonald, founder of the African American Ministers Leadership Council.

Some black church leaders are still fighting hard just to persuade straight black couples to marry. Accepting same-sex marriage when so many black households lack a husband and wife makes McDonald uneasy.

“I am not comfortable performing a wedding ceremony of the same sex,” says McDonald, an Obama supporter. “That’s just where I am.”

Some black pastors, however, embrace a literal approach to the Bible not just to exclude gays but to get rid of competition, says Edward Blum, a San Diego State University historian.

Some black pastors cite New Testament passages such as Paul’s demand that women keep silent in churches to argue against black women in the pulpit.

That argument is harder to make when black women’s energy and donations form the backbone of the black church, Blum says, but some still get away with it.

“The biblical literalist reading has kept male leadership in power in a church that is hugely female,” Blum says. “It keeps power in men’s hands.”

The one book that mattered

Black churches also embrace a literal reading of the scripture because of its unique history, says Blum, author of “W.E.B. DuBois, American Prophet.”

During slavery and segregation, many blacks saw the Bible as the one document they could trust. The Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, state and local laws – all found some way to ignore their humanity, Blum says.

The Bible, though, was one book that told them that they weren’t slaves or three-fifths of a person, Blum says.

It said they were children of God.

“Throughout the 18th and 19th century, what document could they trust?” Blum says. “When the Bible says it’s so, it’s something that black people believed they could trust.”

Their enemies, though, used that same veneration of the Bible against them. Slaveholders had a simple but powerful argument when critics challenged them: Trust the Bible.

They cited scriptures such as Ephesians 6:5. (“Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling. ...”) And they said Jesus preached against many sins, but never against slavery.

Since the Bible is infallible, and scripture sanctions slavery, it must be part of God’s order, slaveholders concluded.

“Slavery is everywhere in the Bible,” Blum says. “When Americans who were in favor of slavery defended it with the Bible, they had a treasure trove of clear biblical passages that accepted enslavement.”

Blum says abolitionists found it difficult to mount an effective counterargument. They couldn’t just say trust the Bible. They preached another approach to scriptures.

They said you couldn’t enslave people based on the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do to you. (Obama cited the Golden Rule and his Christian faith in supporting same-sex marriage).

“The abolitionist turned to the ethics and spirit of the Bible,” Blum says. “They were theological modernists before modernism.”

And what are black clergy and churchgoers today when they cite the Bible to oppose same-sex marriage?

Robinson, the North Carolina pastor, says they’re not homophobes.

“It says in the Bible that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God,” he says. “How do you explain that one away? A lot of honest Christians are not trying to hate homosexuals. They’re saying that if I take the Bible seriously, I’m not sure I can say it’s right.”

Robinson says that some opposition to homosexuality is actually based in compassion:

“If I’m concerned about your soul, I have to tell you the truth in love.”

Cone, who teaches at Union Theological Seminary in New York City, says black churchgoers opposed to same-sex marriage are instead mimicking their ancestors’ oppressors.

“I tell some people, ‘These people were against you.’ They would have lynched you. How are you going to now join them and help them lynch somebody else?’”

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Barack Obama • Christianity • Culture wars • Gay marriage • Gay rights • Homosexuality • Politics

soundoff (4,348 Responses)
  1. kbv206

    I do believe in God and was born and raised as a Catholic. However, sometimes, it is important to think with an independent mind and as people, we owe it to ourselves to continue to search for the truth. We should not stop at the Bible.

    The Bible is an edited compilation (a great one) of historical accounts and literary works created by people and it was meant to hold truths and wisdoms of history. Last time I checked, God never wrote an excerpt in it and frankly, there are unpublished volumes somewhere in the Vatican that the general public will never get to look at.

    However, as we evolve and continue to grow as a species, why not add to it? We are learning new truths everyday and I do not think there is anything wrong with continuing to evolve our notions of fairness and equality.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • mandarax

      Cheers!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • Truth7

      Jesus said one must "certify God is truthful".

      I'd suggest you think deeply on this command.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Jim Weix

      Well put.
      Man, not God, created religion, the bible, chucrch, etc.
      Man, not God, has used religion, the bible, chucrch, etc. to do unspeakable crimes to mankind and justify everything from slavery to murder.
      I'll stick with God.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • What???

      Truths don't evolve. Opinions evolve. Perspective evolves. Lives evolve. Countries evolve etc..... The truth however never changes! Physical laws never change we may learn new laws but they never contradict an established physical law otherwise it is not a law! If there is a god it doesn't have to change! If there is god! Otherwise it is not god. Time will prove there is or isn't a god and not our opinion.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • mandarax

      @What??: kbv206 never said truths evolved. The post said we evolve as we learn more truths. I couldn't agree more.

      May 12, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
  2. saoirse72

    I support gay rights but the biggest hypocrisy to this date has not only been the churches but the Gay community that preaches tolerance but calls everyone else names because they think it is their right to be bigots. If you don't like bigotry don't use bigotry.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      It is inherit and the essence of their foundational beliefs.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • saoirse72

      How is it inherent. This is bs.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • mkt

      Wow, you've obviously never meet anyone gay or you're gay yourself and just refuse to except it. You are the bigot here not gays, end of story.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • saoirse72

      No I am not a bigot this article is bigoted....telling blacks they are all hypocrites for not supporting gays....what are you blind or something. I support gay rights but because you all think you have the right to tell blacks the way to vote...mmm I might just change my mind. When Blacks want an initiative passed do they bi itch about Gays not supporting it.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
    • saoirse72

      If someone is a liberal it is in their beliefs. If someone is conservative...not its not stop forcing your beliefs on others. So Obama's Black so if you are Black and don't vote for Obama you are a hypocrite....You should change your name to voice of nonsense.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
  3. Jim Weix

    In general, I'm sick of black people and all the church leaders.
    I'm sick of black people screaming "racist" everytime something happens, although I notice that they don't say much about the daily black on black murders.
    I'm sick of church leaders from pop up store front churches claiming to know about the Bible. Was Bible study required in prison?
    Maybe the folks that said "Kill them all and let God sort them out" had the answer. Then they will know what God's will for them really is.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • saoirse72

      what....btw that was a Pope who used that comment....and your post is total bs. This is not the community of Black screaming racism it is Gay people calling Black hypocrites big difference. Which I find just as laughable.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • Mr Chihuahua

      I like the crazy hats the black church ladies wear. Those sisters be somethin else lol!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • Mr Chihuahua

      I like the crazy hats the black church ladies wear. Them sisters be somethin else lol!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Jim Weix

      According to saoirse72,
      James Cone, one the nation’s most influential black theologians and author of “The Cross and the Lynching Tree”
      is part of the gay community. I did not know that.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • saoirse72

      According to saoirse72,
      James Cone, one the nation’s most influential black theologians and author of “The Cross and the Lynching Tree”
      is part of the gay community. I did not know that.

      When did I say that you lying sack of sh

      May 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
    • mkt

      @saoirse72 John Blake is black... good job you just debunked yourself before you even checked your facts. LMAO!

      May 12, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • saoirse72

      I don;t care if John Black is Black....he is telling all black they need to vote this way or they are all hypocrites...how is that different then some white many telling blacks they all have to vote one way because one man says they should. So you should trade one master for another. Wow...I think you all got kicked out of primary school or something.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
  4. saoirse72

    No it is not like the Black issue. Gays were not ripped out of another country and forced to work for over 400 years under violence. Maybe in Rome but not in the US. Hijacking one cause to support another is sort of messed up.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Jim Weix

      Did you consider the fact that many of the blacks brought to the United States were sold to the slave traders by other blacks? Many of those sold were already slaves that were owned by black slave masters.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • Godoflunaticscreation

      You purposefully miss the point. No one is comparing Slavery to the plights of gays. What is being said is that some people who may be descendants of African slaves are using the same tactic that was used to keep their ancestors enslaved.They then point out the irony of it.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • saoirse72

      Really and whites never sold other whites but that is not the issue we are talking about here is it....

      May 12, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • mkt

      Trolololololololol that is all you really are saoirse72 a big ol' internet troll! Good day sir enjoy your time in Hell!

      May 12, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
    • saoirse72

      @Mkt I only comment on stupid articles....this is another blatant bs article being written to disenfranchise a whole community.....calling all black hypocrites because they don't support gay rights...you ever hear of freedom of choice. I guess you don't or you would argue against this piece of trash journalism as well.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
  5. saoirse72

    Since when were gay people slaves?

    May 12, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • t

      gay people are slaves to taxes. we have to pay for YOUR dam kids!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • saoirse72

      did you just compare being slaves to taxes to being slaves in a cotton field, being torn from your home in Africa, shipped overseas in a pie of your own poop....to Gays having unfair tax rights? WHAT?

      May 12, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
  6. saoirse72

    those historians are full of crap.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
  7. John

    The problem with much of the teachings today is they seem to more focused on being political correct rather than being the Truth, Gods words is Truth, the Gay livestyle is a sin and against Gods way.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      You know you are mentally ill, don't you?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Being gay isn't a lifestyle anymore than being straight is a lifestyle, you moron.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • Lennon, J.

      The Bible is a book.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
  8. Christians awake

    I read a few of the posts here some are for gays and some are against the Bible and Christianity. If you conduct a simple test with any object you choose. I must say everyone will look at that same object in different ways. Therefore, a lie can be made into truth and the truth into a lie. But, I want to know according to the direction we humans are taking, if we will be allow to marry animals soon (a word is good for the wise).

    May 12, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      If I had a choice between you and a goat, I'd take the goat any day of the week!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • karlito

      I don't think animals can enter into contractual obliigation.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • The Slippery slope fallacy

      Stupid big.ots love it!

      May 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • karlito

      I'm from Canada where we have had gay marriage for sometime. The sky isn't falling, god hasn't damned us and nobody is marrying animals.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • Lennon, J.

      Don't project your secret desires onto others.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
  9. enoch100

    Does OBamacare have special coverage for pink socks?

    May 12, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  10. n8362

    It is immoral to impose your religious superstition on others.

    You do not believe in religion because you honestly think it is true, you believe in it because you fear mortality or are seeking meaning in your life. It does not take a genius to figure out all religion is man made, so for humanity's sake, please stop lying to yourself.

    Deluding yourself in religion does not change reality. Lying to yourself is probably the worst possible way to try to find meaning.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • Chris

      One person's religious belief that their god wants them to murder those who won't worship him is exactly the same as another person's religious beliefs that "it is immoral to impose your religious" beliefs on others.

      Atheists consistently seek to impose their religions on others.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • Bob

      Chris, atheism is no more a religion than not collecting stamps is a hobby. But nice try at pushing your bigotry on the world, yet again.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    May 12, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
    • karlito

      Actually, it just means you like talking to yourself.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Tom

      All children are born without the idea or your religion. All children start off without religion aka Atheist.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Lennon, J.

      I pray for the day religion no longer pollutes the world.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • just sayin

      @tom
      Quite the opposite is true. All children come direct from the throne of God, holding within an intimate knowledge of God. The short life we are given allows us to accept God in love and return to God and the eternal wonders He has prepared for us. Only the extremely foolish talk themselves out of eternity, and woe to that one that would corrupt a child of God. God bless

      May 12, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
  12. George Washington Carver

    My brethrens, would it be amiss to suggest a most effective new napalm might be made with which to ferociously incinerate all the brethrens around the world who foolishly refuse our delightful religion of White Baby Jesus, such marvelous flaming jelly procured from the fermented oil of that noble yet humble fruit of the soil, the mighty peanut?

    May 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  13. Henry

    Bootyfunk, Remember me, Henry, when God straighten you out. You will cry out like the little wimp that you really are!

    May 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Wendy

      Pascal's Wager

      May 12, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • Hitchens

      No it isn't Wendy. Check your facts that is not what Pascale said at all.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why don't YOU provide the facts, then, HitchyBit@hy?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Hitchens

      Pascale said in effect that given the probabilities it would be better to live as a Christian and be wrong than to live as an unbeliever and be wrong. Henry merely pointed out that Bootyfunk would someday know, implying that at that point it would be too late. He mentioned nothing of the reasoning behind Pascale.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Same difference, buffoon.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      The fact that you can't even spell the name is telling, Bit@hy.

      May 12, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
  14. Lori

    why does this article or conversation even matter if there is no God, why vote, why discuss, why care about anything on this earth if there is no God? all that will happen is that you will die and that is all. lives come and go so what, who cares who is left and what happens to this world or the powers that man has in it. Who cares if animals get hurt? or if children get hurt? or if blacks get hurt or mexicans or whites? why should we treat each other nicely? why have laws at all? who cares if peole are married or not married? who cares what anyone does? we are all going to die. One day this earth will eventually have another big bang whether it is caused by our own wars or what ever reason. who cares about any kind of life? So what, when we are all dead that is all we will be just dead. nothing else will happen. that is it..... or is it. should we care? should we want to treat each other nicely? should we fight for our opinions? have discussions? why? Because no matter who you are there is something inside you telling you this is how it is supposed to be...care for others, care for animals, children, have laws and rules to ensure justice for all... why do humans have this desire built into them? Could it be it is becaused they were designed this way by something greater than themselves?

    May 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      "why care about anything on this earth if there is no God?"

      You are kidding, right?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • enoch100

      God is real.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      @enoch100

      "God is real"

      Prove it.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • Entertained Tyler

      You are an immoral person 🙂 have a good day.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • JKhur

      Or it could be that huamn are social creatures and have a simpple range of emotions from joy and comassion to jealousy and hatred? Perhaps we care abiout each other out of simple human empathy which does not depend oin your God to exist or not exist.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • GoodPoint

      Good comment Lori, there is something within all of us that is bigger then ourselves that tells us to treat each others nice for the most part and it came about as human knowledge increased and we discovered that in order for us to survive as humans and live with each other we had to be civil and just toward one another. One can believe in their God without denying the rights of others and trying to oppress others. No mention in the bible that individuals don’t have choices. In most bibles people are given a choice to follow instructions or not. So by all means in no way should there be laws that take away a certain group of people’s rights or oppress them based on biblical beliefs, beliefs that aren't causing harm to others.

      May 12, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
  15. glorydays

    If two people getting married threatens you, it's not they who have the problem....

    May 12, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  16. ruemorgue

    Excuse me, but since when are *religious* people *not* hyprocrites?

    May 12, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  17. u need a mommy and a daddy to make a child!
    May 12, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • Wendy

      Well, that might be what your marriage is about, but not all are.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, you need sperm and ovum.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • hehe

      will they raise them?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, you need sperm and ovum. Gays have children all the time. And no one is required to have children in order to be married.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  18. kerberusII@aol.com

    a literal meaning of what language? the original languages in which the old and new testaments were written? the latin version of same? the numerous versions of the latter in english, olde and new?

    the article is typical journalistic gibberish.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  19. I am John

    Stand firm children of God. Satan will use his children to question the existence of God and the validity of His word. But fear not. The Proof is coming again soon for the whole world to see! Then even they that question Him will see the Lord Jesus and be on their knees like the rest of us for He is the Lord of lords and King of kings. They will come to realize that they were the ones deceived and following a falsehood and a fairy tale led by Satan.

    May 12, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • sam stone

      spend a lot of time on your knees, do you john?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Bob

      Too funny, John, that you are on your knees for your sky fairy. Probably a familiar position for you. But why would you want to worship a god that is so nasty and hateful? Just look at the bible, and you can find stories of your jerk in the sky demanding that you do nasty stuff like this:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 12, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • be

      So John.....I assume you are talking about bigotry here. If you are, I would agree with you. Jesus was pretty firm about how wrong the religious right of his day were........he probably feels the same about the religious right of today.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • Wendy

      be, except that Jesus rotted away long ago and isn't caring about anything right now.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • Truth7

      Beautifully stated. Amen.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • Bob

      Thank you, Truth7.

      RAmen.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • sam stone

      Truth7: Does saying "amen" at the end of things make you feel pious?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
    • Truth7

      Bob – did God kill Cain after Cain killed his own brother...? The answer is "NO". That should be enough to let you know the passages you quoted do not mean what you think they mean. So, perhaps you should go back to the very beginning and see who lead you down the path of destruction.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • nadinesh

      I don't think you have the right to exclude from "Children of God" the very people Jesus himself included. You are wearing blinders, morally. I don't know if this "Satan" is among us, causing evil, but what I DO know is that you've got your head planted in the earth where you don't have to see the real world, and I believe that's hardly a perspective the God you value would approve of.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • Truth7

      My "beautifully stated" was for John.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • I am John

      Thank you Truth7. Will you marry me?

      May 12, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
    • Bob

      Truth7, so yet again, if you disagree with my interpretations, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
  20. skeptic in the country

    Father forgive them, for they know not what they do...

    May 12, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • be

      Exactly....the words that Jesus used against the religious right of his time.....and would use against the religious right of today.

      May 12, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • nadinesh

      That's such a good point, be. Even just using the words of Jesus that were allowed into the New Testament by the Romans in the fourth century, it's abundantly clear that Jesus was a very very radical man, politically as well as religiously. He was put to death by the forces of the Establishment of his day - and by the right wing of his religion, fighting for its political supremacy. Every action of his indicates his deep opposition to the mores of the culture he was raised in. He prevented townspeople from stoning an adulterous woman by making it clear that none of us have the moral authority to judge. He was condemned because he overturned the tables of the moneylenders in the very Temple itself. At a time when (like any other time) wealth and status were prized, he preached that it was the meek and poor favored by God and that the rich will have a very difficult time attaining heaven (the allusion of the camel and the "eye of the needle.") Doesn't this all matter? Isn't it clear where our hearts must take us if we value what this man said?

      May 12, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • David Koresh, is that you??

      ...........

      May 12, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
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