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Your Take: Rebuttals to rethinking the Bible on homosexuality
What does the Bible really say about homosexuality? Readers responded to a professor's views on the issue.
May 17th, 2012
02:10 PM ET

Your Take: Rebuttals to rethinking the Bible on homosexuality

The Bible clearly condemns homosexuality - and, by extension, same-sex marriage - right?

A guest "My Take" post we ran this week from a college psychology professor who has a background in religion (he was ordained a Roman Catholic priest, for instance) challenged that conventional wisdom.

The professor, Daniel A. Helminiak, argues that foes of same-sex marriage have assigned modern, ethics-laden meanings to biblical passages on homosexuality to make it seem like the Bible unequivocally condemns it. In fact, Helminiak proposes, the original meanings of such passages about gays are at the very least ambiguous.

The piece has generated an avalanche of response: 10,000 Facebook shares, 6,000 comments, 200 tweets and a couple of blog posts.  Giving the other side its say, here's a rebuttal roundup of critical reactions from across the Internet:

Kevin DeYoung, a conservative Christian blogger, calls Helminiak's piece "amazing for including so many bad arguments in so little space." DeYoung, who leads a Reformed Church in Michigan, challenges Helminiak's argument that the biblical tale of Sodom and Gomorrah doesn't condemn homosexuality per se.

"Jude 7 states that Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities 'indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire,' " DeYoung writes.

"Even the NRSV, translation of choice for the mainline (and the version Helminiak seems to be using), says 'pursued unnatural lust,' ” he continues, referring to the New Revised Standard Version of the Bible.

"Clearly, the sins of Sodom lived in infamy not simply because of violent aggression or the lack of hospitality, but because men pursued sex with other men."

DeYoung also takes issue with our guest blogger's argument that the Greek term the New Testament writer Paul uses when describing homosexuality, para physin, has been misconstrued by modern translators to mean "unnatural." Helminiak says that the original term does not contain ethical judgment and should be translated instead as "atypical" or "unusual."

Absurd, says DeYoung. "We know Paul considered same-sex intercourse an ethical violation, and not simply something uncommon. ... (N)otice what Paul goes on to say: 'Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error' (NRSV)."

DeYoung writes, "When you read the whole verse, Helminiak’s 'nonethical' argument becomes implausible. Paul thought homosexuality not just unusual, but wrong, a sinful error deserving of a 'due penalty.' '"

On Facebook, Helminiak’s piece, "My Take: What the Bible really says about homosexuality," provoked a mix of positive and negative response. Some of the latter was very, very negative.

"The following article appeared on the front page of CNN. ... I was so grieved and troubled, I had to respond to the writer," Vince Smith wrote on his Facebook page Thursday. "This is what is most tragic and terrifying about beliefs on homosexuality in this nation.

"When you take Scripture and twist it to 'reinterpet' what it means, and then teach others, you are literally playing with fire ... eternal fire," Smith continued. "I pray that The Lord has mercy on Mr. Helminiak."

Readers' comments on the piece included much criticism, too (although there was plenty of support for Helminiak’s argument).

"Daniel's argument misses the glaringly obvious condemnation of gay sex in the Bible," writes a commenter named Mike Blackadder. "Catholics believe it is a mortal sin when it is premarital, masturbatory, and when we deny the possibility of conceiving children (i.e., through the use of contraceptives).

"Unfortunately, the faith suggests that gay sex falls under the same category as these others and if we interpret differently for gays, then we must accept a new interpretation of these other acts for the same reason," Blackadder writes. "The corollary is that if your faith accepts hetero impurities (such as contraceptives or [masturbation]) but condemns gays, then you may be rightfully accused of hypocrisy."

Many commenters avoided quibbling with Helminiak’s logic, instead taking aim at the piece's very existence.

"Why can't gays leave other people's sacred things alone?" asks a commenter named iqueue120. "Instead of redefining 'marriage,' just call your pervert juncture 'pirripipirripi.' We will grant you and your 'pirripipirripi-other' all the 'rights' that you want.

"You can write your own sacred book, call it, for instance, 'Pirripipirripible,' and make it teach how awesome is 'pirripipirripi,'" this commenter continues. "... All we ask in exchange is that you leave 'marriage' and 'Holy Bible' as they are."

On Twitter, most RTs, or retweets, endorsed the piece, but not all. "Another pastor,"  tweeted @BarbRoyal "trying to pretend the ugly parts out of the Xtian (Christian) bible. ..."

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bible • Comments • Gay marriage

soundoff (3,580 Responses)
  1. Gravy Toaster

    John 3:16 : And the lord said "Go Sox"

    May 18, 2012 at 11:41 am |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Anyone have any brown mustard? I am trying to make a sandwich.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • myownwar

      You've gotta be trolling, right?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      OMG! He's trying to damn himself to eternal hell by eating brown mustard! Quick! Somebody go pour some holy water on this abomination about to take place!

      May 18, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Lilith

      The original "Atheism blah blah things" is a spammer also going under the names "Justsayin" and HeavenSent".
      There are others (like this one) who are borrowing the name to ridicule the original .. and Good job I say!

      May 18, 2012 at 11:46 am |
  3. Max

    All these arguements for and against what the Bible is saying about this or that need to remember that they are all interpretations. And that's all they can ever be, interpretatations. And as human beings, we will interpret them how we are either taught or how we see fit to serve our own world view or values. The book is thousands of years old, has been revised by rulers, translated into different languages (and there is always something lost in translation, anyone who knows more than one language knows this), and its meaning is taught from one generation to another by people of vastly different social, economic, racial, political, a buch of other words that end in "-al", backgrounds. How anyone could say that the Bible clearly states this or that, as if it were a black or white issue, is beyond me. Now for 95% of folks, this is not a problem because they use the book to try and lead better lives (they just don't get reported in the news). It's the other 5% that go on to condemn, judge, disenfranchise, and castigage others who fall outside of their interpretation that mess up everything for everyone else. And the 5% rule doesn't just apply to religion, or in this case the interpretation of the bible, it applies to politics, government, music, you name it. It sucks, it really does.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • sweebach

      well stated

      May 18, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • Wiz

      Nicely, stated!

      May 18, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Gunny

      I agree with you. What's amazing is that the bible is the basic instructions. We as Christians seem to have a hard time at that alone. If God knows everything, then God knows who is gay or not. Throughout the bible, the Lord states what we should not do, but he never tells us to condemn anybody. I will never disrespect gays. I am not supposed to do that. They may be gay all of their life. God already knows that. I'm supposed to focus on me and walk in the fruit of the spirit.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:51 am |
  4. If horses had Gods ... their Gods would be horses

    What does the Wiccan Rede say about this topic? It has as much significance as anything the Christian Bible says.
    BTW is states, "An it harm none, do what thou wilt" (Do what you will, so long as it harms none) ... wiser words than the Christian Bible.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • Flatpicker

      Do as thou wilt as long as it harms none....Hmmmm.... What disease was spread in the early 80's that have killed millions. What as the major cause of the spread of this disease ?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • WASP

      @horsegod: i love the question you get from close minded christians......" but how can an atheist be moral" as if christians created being moral. ROFLMFAO. truth i had forgotten the wiccan rede, i'm sure there more even older text that show human morality before anyone even thought of the one god bs.
      oh and i'm giving you a standing ovation for the point you just made.

      May 18, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  5. Peteyroo

    Unicorns love everyone.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • DeeCee1000

      Yes they do! And I'm sure I don't need to tell you that it was the First Unicorn ever in Unicorn Garden Paradise that stuck his holy horn up Eve's *&^F% giving rise to the first humans. . . .it says so in the Book of Unicorns.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  6. Chris

    How is this even news? The bible has about as much truth in it than a Spider Man comic.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • chris

      And your basing your simplistic statement off of?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  7. just_a_statement

    I'm sure its been brought up plenty of times before, but how many translations of the bible have their been now? Sure you can say the bible was written by man by the direction of a holy spirit as stated earlier, but by that same book it says man is flawed by nature doesnt it? How many times has the bible been re-written? What do you think was going on in the days where the church was ruling all of England? Do you think not a single man was willing to exploit the illiterate by claiming a book said something that they couldnt read? If you look at Judaism or Islam, at least both of their holy books have maintained their original language and have not had the trouble of being re-written in a new language. (Make whatever arguments you want about The Quran being used to fuel hate, what do you think you are doing right now? Maybe you should take a good look in the mirror.)

    I'd be careful how quickly you throw your stones, have faith and live your life the right way. Dont cast your judgement on others your in no place to do so.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:35 am |
  8. John

    Why was this young man there naked and why did he grab Jesus and then run away naked? What was going on there with this young man and Jesus? Mark, 14: 50, 51, 52

    May 18, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      Hmm Jesus did hang around all day with a bunch of dudes who wore dresses. He got along well with ladies too.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:37 am |
  9. wcb2001

    The bible is gay.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Gravy Toaster

      wcb2001 – Just like you ! 🙂

      May 18, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Gravy Toaster

      John 3:16 : And the lord said "Go Sox"

      May 18, 2012 at 11:42 am |
  10. A Servant

    Too all – A few of the "real" bible teachers would include: John Macarthur – David Jeremiah – Greg Laurie – Chuck Swindoll – Allister Begg – Chuck Smith –

    A lot of those on tv – Benny Hinn – T D Jakes – Joel Osteen – Joyce Meyer, all false prophets as they pander to lost souls for money – Take the opportunity to hear the real teachers in who our Creator is.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • momoya

      Who cares?? If your bible or your god one can't keep 95% of his followers from having wrong interpretations he should clear some sh!t up himself or send another book a little more accurate than the stupidity in the bible!

      May 18, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Sue

      A Slave, If your "god" is truly impotent, then why does it need "teachers" and such an error-laden book as the bible to get its "message" out? For that matter, why does it need a message, or followers, or worship?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:37 am |
  11. MymanDarwin

    I have said it before, and I will say it again. Who cares? The bible is a fiction book, and a boring one at that, that has no meaning or relevance to our world today. The sad fact that so many are indoctrinated into it's words starting at young ways make it a cult manifesto in eyes. We will never learn to work together as one species while religion of ANY sort is practiced.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • MymanDarwin

      I swear..either I typed really fast or it left words out.

      *young ages
      ** in my eyes

      Grrrr fat fingers....

      May 18, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • chris

      I guess I've also said it before and will say it again ... many of us thoughtful and reflective people care ... we take our faith quite serious because walking with God – our Creator and Savior, makes some intuitive sense ... and answers some of the questions in life that cannot appear to by any other method.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • Deborah Torres

      The fact that you know so much of the Bible is amazing! I have had a Bible for many years and have never made a dollar... Can you show me how?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • Bill

      Great post – I am happy to br bringing up the first generation of my family to be skeptical of religion – all religion not just christianity. After serving in the army for 25 years I see the wisdom of the founders seperating religion from government.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Sue

      Don't worry about a few typos, MyMan. Nothing compared to all the errors and contradictions in the bible: Flat, round earth, mustard seeds, incorrect disease propagation, creation, and all that other nonsense in that silly book.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • John

      Do you believe in being saved from death? Do you believe you will die? Do you believe anything dies? Do you believe in anything having an eternal life? Do you believe in punishing bad people? Well, you have a religion too if you do.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Sue

      John, go read up on "Gross Concept Errors". Or just have a nice day wallowing in your ignorance.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Not so much that it is a work of fiction, than the fact that 99.99% of the people who cite the Bible are not doing so using the languages of the Bible. How many people can read 1st C CE Greek or 4th C BCE Hebrew? Outside of a small cadre of professional linguists who have made a life study of this book, not many. Now, add to that politics. Don't believe me? Check out the history of the Bible, not the history IN the Bible, and you will see that the selection of the books included, and the translations used were all to suit the politics of the day.

      For anyone who believes that the KJV was the first English translation, boy are you in for a shock. There were at least three other versions that I am familiar with. All three were suppressed to the point of destroying all copies that could be found. The most "damaging" to the body politic was the Geneva Bible. This was the one used by the Separatists (i.e. Pilgrims) and was the most scathing in terms of its footnotes and text. They practically denounced the monarch (at the time, Elizabeth I) of England in just about every footnote and translated line. When the KJV was released (around 500 years ago) the text and footnotes were significantly amended casting the Monarchy in a much better light.

      Even today, there is still debate as to whether the final section of Mark is Canonical, who actually authored the letters of Peter (who was illiterate), and whether the Revelations of John were actually authored by the Apostle or someone else of that same, rather common name, only instead of being another illiterate fisherman, who was actually from a Pharasaic family. Look at the versions of the Bible used by the Roman Catholics, vs just about the rest of Western Christianity. Look at Western Christianity's versions vs. those from Eastern Christianity. Different translations of the same books. Different books from each other. Declarations of some being apocryphal by some denominations but canonical by others.

      In conclusion, when "THE BIBLE" is cited as a reference, what version is used? Were the original versions referenced in context to their time? Or is it the same gap-toothed, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, drooling illiterates who used the same book to justify slavery, subjugation of women, etc.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • chris

      Sue, have you actaully read the Bible for yourself – start to finish? I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't but just repeating what you have heard from the ignornat. Can you please tell me where the Bible said the earth was flat?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • chris

      "The message boards have only affirmed what I know to be true"

      This is great scientific method you are using ... I thought it was believers who were the poorly educated and closed minded? Huh, using your reasoning I guess I could say something like 'the Bibile only affirms the faith I know to be true'?

      May 18, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Flatpicker

      chris – People will just take another persons word that the bible is so flawed. They will say something like Sue does, Go to this site or read this book. They will not state the part of the bible that is flawed. They will pull of verse out of context and make look bad. They are actually clueless as to what is in the bible. I have been looking for the past 4 years for all these errors and haven't found any yet.

      May 18, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  12. Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

    Most Christians praising God reminds me of the people in Soviet Russia who, when Stalin would give a speech, would not stop applauding when he arrived to speak. They feared they would be the last one to stop clapping and then they would have the joy of an execution or worse, living the rest of their lives in the Gulag.

    From what I can gather, most Christians don't seem to praise and obey God (or applaud him) because they genuinely love him. They praise and serve God to avoid the punishment that they believe will come upon them. This is ever present in the people who use Pascal's Wager. Somehow you think this makes you better than non-believers who are good people who have no expectation of punishment or reward. It is very sad to watch these people.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • chris

      So, you have interviewed many of the two billion christians in the world today? You personally know why they embrace their faith? I think you are assuming and making wild accusations based off your and others experiences/perceptions ... now that's a dangerous thing to do.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Bob

      Behavior of Christians v. Stalin situation is a very good comparison. Well said, Jacques. May your balls never fall.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      No, I haven't interviewed most of them. But I have seen a lot of comments here which indicate that you shouldn't sin because you will receive punishment. If somebody said to you "Don't steal because you'll go to jail" as opposed to "Don't steal because you'll be hurting someone else", which one would you say was offering a better moral perspective on the crime?

      I also grew up going to a very Christian church where it was just constantly talk of doom and gloom and fear tactics. It was embedded in our brains to not sin because you don't want to receive God's wrath. It has been my experience with Christians that I've met and talked to (I talked to a lot of people when I was an evangelizing Christian) that this seems to be the basis for most people's faith in God. Avoid doing bad things because God will do bad things to you.

      Again, I know this is not the case with every Christian, just most of the one's I have dealt with.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Jacques, I'm a fellow non-beleiver, but using message board posts is not the most scientific way to evaluate a group of people. I prefer to use terms like, "the group x's I have observed" or "some not all". It really irritates me when Christians, some, not all, generalize all athiests. So try not to do the same.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • chris

      I wish you had a different experience with the Christian faith ... I, too, grew up with this idea of an angry and punitive god who was just looking to thump anyone who stepped out of line ... interesting how many of us project onto God our human experieces ... I think this saddens Him, as many have probably misreprestend him.

      I would not want my relationship with my kids to be primarily based out of fear ... I don't believe God desires this as well. That being said, I do – when needed and out of love, discipline my kids for their benefit – even if they don't understand that given their emotional/cognitive abilities at certain ages. My youngest son wants to touch the wood stove and is angry with me for discouraging this.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      lunchbreaker, did you not read the part about me being an evangelizer as well as growing up in a very orthodox Christian church? It isn't just message boards. The message boards have only affirmed what I know to be true.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      chris, you don't want your kids to have a relationship based off fear. You are a better father than God. Why else would he have these strict punishments for mundane things? People have said to me "You wouldn't want to be punished over something so mall would you?" The rebuttal has always been "No, if it is so small a thing, why would God be punishing me so severely?"

      God's wrath and punishment are all detailed in the Bible. Flood of Noah's day? If you believe it is true, that means he killed a bunch of kids who had no say in the matter and countless people who were just going about their lives, like normal people. Look at the dozens of kids God killed because they called his prophet "bald head". These are just a few examples of the hundreds in the Bible. If God doesn't want us to serve him out of fear, he should not exact such strict and horrible punishments for minor things.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • chris

      i have to run – lunch over , but i've enjoyed chatting with you Jacques

      No, I don't want my relationship with my kids to be primarily based off of fear, but I do want them to have respect ... this is often how the word 'fear' is actaully used in the Bible .... reverence/respect for God, our Creator.

      Also, and I'm sorry to say but I don't think your grasping the context of why God used many of His measures ... have you read how evil people were in many of the passages you are citing? I would be very angry with my kids if they were abusing others, mistreating those less fortunate, etc. ... If God were as purely vengeful as many make Him out to be He wouldn't have given humanity a second, third, fourth chance ... this tells us something about Him ... what parent wouldn't continue to keep loving and giving chances to the ones they hold dear? I would do almost anything for my kids ... and God did.

      May 18, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Fair enough Jacques. I have a few pet peeves which is really my issue. Been there done that with evangelicals also, sucks.

      May 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  13. Sue

    The bible doesn't merely need to be rethought. It needs to be completely discarded.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • chris

      Wow, glad you – the authority – have intellectually cleared this up for so many ... I personally will give up my walk with God because of your insightful words.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Sue

      chris, if you actually have an argument against what I said, please present it. Otherwise, just piss off, jerk.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Colin

      She has a point, Chris. Isn't about time yo utheists got past your late Iron Age mythology.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Deborah Torres

      Why?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Gravy Toaster

      Calm down.. do you need a bottle?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • chris

      sure ... who made you the authority to deem the bible [religion] irrelevant?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • Sue

      Sailed off your flat earth lately, stupid?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • chris

      haha ... i always have to laugh when name calling comes out ... isn't it supposed be 'your side' that are the intellectual ones?

      Why would I believe the world is flat? I believe God is the author of all truth – scientific, sociological, psychological, etc ... I have no problems with truth

      May 18, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Primewonk

      Sue, I didn't sail off the edge of the earth because my officially sanctioned talking snake and donkey told me to turn around.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Flatpicker

      SUE – Can you give a reference to where the bible states teh earth is flat ? Book of Job – He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. – Book of Isaiah – It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth.

      May 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  14. James

    DJ, I'm afraid you do not understand bible. The bible was written by the hand of man through the instruction of the Holy Spirit. So yes the bible is the word of God.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • Jackleg

      Thanks for unquestionably clearing that up, James....

      May 18, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • Bob

      Well, James, your god must be quite the nasty ass-hole then, because the bible has him making horrid demands of man like these:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations, to being "misunderstood", and to being taken out of context, and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      May 18, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • kenny

      ohhhh now i get it, god talked to the writers... yeah that makes perfect sense... i mean it happens all the time right? .... Every loony bin is filled with people that talk to god right? yeah... ummmm... nice try...

      May 18, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • sybaris

      James, if you had been born and raised in Egypt 5000 years ago you'd be making the same claim about texts created "at the direction of Ra".

      Your faith is mostly a reflection of your environment, not divinely inspired.

      When you accept this you can free your mind of this disgusting, filthy disease of the mind called religion.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Deborah Torres

      Amen and most people who fight against the Bible have never read it ( the whole thing) And yes Chritians are the smartest!

      May 18, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • Deborah Torres

      The real answer is Adam and Eve a man and woman were in the garden not 2 women and 2 men... DUHHHHH! now thats natural and they reproduced, Had God put 2 men in the garden of Eden or 2 women... The garden would still have 2 people. I put that in small form for the wisest people who call us christians DUMB. God Bless....

      May 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  15. dougm

    Using religion to support a social theory is like using a fairy tale to tell your kids what to do. So what if the Bible says anything at all. It is nothing more than a written estimate of a what a myth might mean, made to order for the persons writing the book. There were huge religions that existed long ago in Turkey and Egypt that were probably taken very seriously in their day and now nobody practices them at all. Christianity is just one more in a long line of theories that will be abandoned in the course of time. Certainly nothing to get excited about.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:20 am |
  16. AverageJoe76

    Christians need to look at how Jesus has been exploited for monetary gain; t-shirts, keychains, symbolism (the cross, jesus' artistically interpretted face) and ask themselves WWJD if he came back to see all that? Would be he honored or horrified at how his image has been pimped out. But the first thing he'll do, is look at his image and say, "Hey..... who's that guy?"

    May 18, 2012 at 11:18 am |
  17. I Believe

    I thank God that folks even care about what the Bible says. proof that deep inside folks know the truth. Read your Bible.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • If horses had Gods ... their Gods would be horses

      I have read the bible, have you read the God Delusion or The Evolution of God or the book of Enoch? How about Chariots of the Gods? Only reading one perspective does not make a person well rounded or educated, it only self reinforces what you WANT to believe.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • Jackleg

      The Bible doesn't "say" anything...... It should also not be used as a basis for discriminatory legislation. The Bible, like all religious texts should be relevant only to those who choose to follow them; not forced onto a whole as the Romans did with Christianity.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • Patrick

      What do you think of all the millions who care about the Koran? What does that prove?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • Jacques Strappe, World Famous French Ball Juggler

      People care about Mein Kampf because it is an evil, hate-filled book that we would not want to see policies enacted based upon. Same with the Bible.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Madtown

      proof that deep inside folks know the truth. Read your Bible
      ----–
      What if I'm born into a part of the world where they practice Hinduism, and my parents exposed me to these religious practices as a child, and I read Hindu scripture and believed it to be the truth. I'm a reading the wrong "truth"?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:48 am |
  18. Sharon

    How does it read in the original language, without all the intervening translations?

    May 18, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • Madtown

      Great question Sharon. I believe for the most part we'll never know. From what I've read(certainly not a scholar), much of the original word was passed on verbally, as the cultures didn't have means or methods to write.

      May 18, 2012 at 11:20 am |
  19. npkuiper

    Right wing, man and woman marriage lovers: Leave the judgement to God and go about your hypocritical ways!

    May 18, 2012 at 11:14 am |
  20. dS.AnTiAN

    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB).

    Great, so all those teleevangelists who preach the end of the world, doomsday, the end of times, they shall be put to death. All they do is fortune telling (and making $$$ from it) as we have witnessed last year. Thank you Mr Camping, van Impe, Falwell and the like.. have a good stoning.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Dagger_32

      Man, I just checked the weather and then predicted this weekend is going to be excellent. Does that count?

      May 18, 2012 at 11:38 am |
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