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May 18th, 2012
02:58 PM ET

Health secretary addresses health care, religious freedom in protested graduation speech

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – In an anticipated and controversial address Friday, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius delivered a speech that blended inspirational messages to graduates with a discussion of public policy's tough decisions, including health care and honoring religious freedom.

Her speech at the Georgetown Public Policy Institute awards ceremony had been considered controversial by conservative Catholic organizations that saw her appearance as the university validating her positions on abortion and contraception.

The speech did not mention the controversy directly, but Sebelius did address faith in public life in a section of the speech devoted to John F. Kennedy, the first Catholic president of the United States.

"Kennedy was elected president on November 8, 1960," she said. "And more than 50 years later, that conversation, about the intersection of our nation's long tradition of religious freedom with policy decisions in the public square, continues."

Sebelius continued: "Contributing to these debates will require more than just the quantitative skills you have learned at Georgetown. It will also require the ethical skills you have honed - the ability to weight different views, see issues from other points of view and, in the end, remain true to your own moral compass."

A few minutes into the speech, a protester sitting with families in the crowd stood up and shouted at Sebelius, getting the crowd's attention. "Georgetown should be ashamed," he yelled, drawing boos from the crowd.

Though the protester continued, the crowd largely drowned out his statements. Police escorted him out, but his chants could be heard inside the room as he left.

Sebelius remained composed throughout, and when the speech continued, she received a round of applause.

Student reaction to the protester was largely evidenced by their reaction to his shouting.

"The students here are very committed to public service ..." said Taiyang Gul, 24, who came to Georgetown from China. "Obviously, this is not the forum for expressing opinions. People can express their views in some other occasions."
Gul said in the end, this day was for the students, to mark their success and wish them well.

Ranjini Danaraj, a 31-year-old master's in policy management graduate, dismissed the protester, calling the response to him appropriate, and said she thought Sebelius did a great job.

"I thought [the speech] was great," she said. "She did a good job of relating events from her life that were relevant to us. I thought she had a lot of life lessons to pass along."

The secretary's statements on understanding different points of view largely echoed Georgetown President John J. DeGioia, who defended her invitation by saying Georgetown is "a university, committed to the free exchange of ideas."

DeGioia's defense, however, was not enough for the groups and some faculty who protested Sebelius' speech.

Just outside the Georgetown walls, the American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property held banners, flags and signs that protested the speech. About 15 protesters counted the rosary and said the Hail Mary prayer as people in graduation gowns walked past.

"There are certain lines that we can't cross," said Michael Drake, a volunteer for the organization. "She [Sebelius] has a pro-abortion record from her time in Kansas. ... We are very scandalized that Georgetown would even invite her."

There were also vocal groups of protesters before the speech. Leading the charge was the conservative Cardinal Newman Society, a group that has regularly blogged about speakers at Catholic universities who go against Catholic teachings.

Patrick Reilly, the group's president, labeled Georgetown as "anti-Catholic."

"It is recognized by the bishops as Catholic, so it is Catholic," Reilly said about the university. "Does it do a good job at upholding its Catholic identity? No, it is one of the worst at doing so."

At the heart of his and other protest groups' disagreement is that Catholic bishops, in 2004, released a document that outlined how a Catholic university should invite speakers to campus. In it, the bishops said Catholic universities should not bestow honors upon speakers whose views differ with those of the Catholic Church.

Reilly's take: "I would say that a commencement address falls into the category of an honor."

Protest was not limited to solely independent Catholic organizations, however. The Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., also chimed in on the speech.

"Given the dramatic impact this (contraception) mandate will have on Georgetown and all Catholic institutions, it is understandable that Catholics across the country would find shocking the choice of Secretary Sebelius, the architect of the mandate, to receive such special recognition at a Catholic university," the Washington Archdiocese's statement said.

The archdiocese was referring to a Health and Human Services mandate that religious employers offer health insurance coverage that includes access to contraceptives and birth control services.

Georgetown is the oldest Catholic university in the United States. It was founded by the country's first Catholic bishop, John Carroll, and describes itself as a "global research university deeply rooted in the Catholic faith."

Catholic faith, as directed by the church's hierarchy, is adamantly against abortion, contraception and same-sex marriage. As a Catholic university, Georgetown adheres to those positions - no condoms are passed out on campus, for example - but this has caused friction with the student body.

In her remarks, Sebelius addressed the path she took to become leader of the Department of Health and Human Services. She also talked about her role in implementing President Barack Obama's hallmark health care legislation.

"I have the extraordinary opportunity to help implement legislation that is finally, after seven decades of failed debate, ensuring that all Americans have access to affordable health care," she said.

Sebelius was one of a handful of graduation speakers at Georgetown this weekend. Many of the university's individual schools have both a commencement and an awards ceremony. Sebelius was speaking at the awards ceremony - called a tropaia, after the Greek word for "trophy" - for Georgetown's Public Policy Institute.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Abortion • Bishops • Catholic Church • Health • Health care

soundoff (184 Responses)
  1. Jo Gordon

    Reformed health care? Where? As far as I know, a person with a pre-existing condition still can't get an individualized policy. All this chick is and Washington is nothing but inflated EGOs!!

    May 19, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Perhaps you should speak with the capitalists who are screaming "socialized medicine" because they might have to pay for something. Who do you think is paying for the state CHIP programs because companies no longer feel the need to provide their employees with medical coverage?

      May 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
  2. David Nelson

    Catholic! Catholic! Catholic! Right wing Catholics, Left wing Catholics! And round and round we go. Does CNN now stand for the Catholic News Network?

    May 19, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
  3. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things *

    May 19, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • Jesus

      *Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!*!~

      May 21, 2012 at 10:49 am |
  4. mchambers_64

    The ignorance of the vast amount of folk is numbingly sobering. To think that most of you (yes, those on the right) do not even consider hearing views of those you may disagree with as portrayed my the media and published reports. In fact, I enjoy and even seek out opposing views of my own so that I may perhaps reach a more better understanding in reaching a decision. Those of with children have to do this when they bicker, fight, and argue. As parents we have to hear all sides. I look and listen to right-wing media (Fox News, Washington Times, American Conservative); left-wing (Washington Post, CBS News, MSNBC, The Nation); Centrists (CNN, ABC News); and alternative (Final Call, Lyndon LaRouche, Media Matters). They're all reasonable and, as a whole, don't lie. After reading all of them, I basically form an opinion that centrists can relate.

    May 19, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Worship Poseidon

      No one likes you.

      May 19, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  5. Worship Poseidon

    Mary should have had an abortion with Jesus. Didn't they have wire hangers back then?

    May 19, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      No coat hangers. Could of had a mule kick her in the gunt.

      May 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
  6. Geraldh

    Sebellius has no business speaking at a Catholic University. She has excommunicated herself by her actions. I sure hope she is refraining from the Eucharist.

    May 19, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • momoya

      The catholics have no business being a an organizaton.. They're criminal.. Much worse than the Mafia ever was.. FVCK the catholic church, you purveyors of misery..

      May 19, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Alicia

      Well aren't you high and mighty. Refrained from eating a wafer that tastes like fish food flakes. People like you are the ones who it in judgement and treat everyone like dirt, especially women.

      May 19, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • AGuest9

      She has every right to speak at one of the leading programs in political science in the United States. With the boomers retiring in droves, which is plunging this country into decline, health care and population management are the two fastest growing areas in public policy.

      May 20, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  7. Just Another Person

    In my opinon, Life is just a test of You. It is not our job to pass judgment on a person outside of man's law, they will be judged on their own as most religions state. It is our responsibility to be the best person we can be without coveting, judging, or hurting others. Protect those close to you, do good to others, and live to you best potential. Anger, Aggression, Harm, and even Insults are just the wrong path. But this is just my opinion.

    Thanks!

    May 19, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • Geraldh

      I take it you are a Christian who believes in the Bible. There is alot of judging of people's actions in the Bible. YOur concept of what we are and are not to judge is flawed. We cannot judge the eternal destiny of their souls but action yes. If someone murders another what are we to do? Say "that's ok"?

      May 19, 2012 at 11:43 am |
  8. BCohio

    Just Another Lying Liberal Socialist Demorat!, Like All the others!.. These People are pushing their Satanic Agenda to our young people and need to be Shunned!...

    May 19, 2012 at 9:34 am |
    • Ronald Hussein Reagan

      your manner of expresssing yourself is so extreme as to be laughable. To further enhance the efffect I sugggst you refer to the President as a MArxist,Big Ears Kenyan and make up a sillly named based on the lettters of his last name. THis willl give you a bit more cred among the RIght WIng crazy set..

      May 19, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • Kire

      It is the catholic church that has the satanic agenda. You reward pedophilia and want women under the thumb of men and then dead.

      May 19, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  9. Reality

    ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS:

    The Georgetown "elite" and K. Sebelius vs. the Washington RCC hierarchy? Tis a minor issue.

    The real issue that Sebelius should have addressed but did not:

    The Brutal Effects of Stupidity!!!

    ONLY FOR THE NEWCOMERS:

    : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

    Added information before making your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

    And from:

    Consumer Reports, January, 2012

    "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

    Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

    The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":

    1a. (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
    1b. (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)

    Followed by:

    One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
    Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
    The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
    Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
    IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)

    Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).

    May 19, 2012 at 8:24 am |
  10. AGuest9

    Go Kathleen!

    May 19, 2012 at 7:24 am |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    May 19, 2012 at 6:03 am |
  12. The TRUTH

    Travolta framed as SCAPEGOAT by mormon temple again in collusion with the vatican! Scientology centers are all safehouses for gay men and are the target of LDS oppression. Please READ and wake up!

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/05/17/john-travolta-accused-trying-to-grope-late-grease-co-star-jeff-conaway/?intcmp=features

    May 19, 2012 at 3:09 am |
    • Ahem

      Wow. You sound so, um, reasonable.

      May 19, 2012 at 4:14 am |
    • BCohio

      HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHahaHa Liars tigers and Gays Oh My!... YahYahYahYah Just like all the rest of the Demorats!.

      May 19, 2012 at 9:39 am |
  13. The Four Fluffy Kittens of the Apocalypse

    Yo feeble human types! I am out of here for a few weeks on a totally kick-ass vacation, so I am going to put all of my hairballs of wisdom I would have posted if I were here. They are pretty much interchangeable, just just drop them in response to any mindless religious post.

    "There is no evidence for anything you say or believe."

    "Was that English? It looks like you threw a newspaper in a cuisinart, zapped it, then posted the results."

    "Yeah right, and invisible is a color."

    "If you take all the characteristics and behaviors of your God, all the slaughters and the punishments and the weird stuff he did to Job and the whole eternal concentration camp thing, if you put all of those characteristics into a human, the person who your God most closely fits is Joseph Stalin! Joseph Freaking Stalin! He also could not stand any rivals or dissent, and sent his dissidents to the Gulags too."

    "You still don't have the slightest evidence!"

    "That may be the most astoundingly stupid thing ever posted here on the Belief Blog, and there is some very stiff Christian competition for that title!"

    "And yet you are equally sure all the other religions are false and wrong, because . . . ?"

    "So when exactly did you sell all your goods and give them to the poor?"

    "You really aren't getting this whole lack-of-evidence problem."

    "It's spelled T H E!!! Is that so bloody hard? Do they teach illiteracy at Sunday school or something?

    "I never thought about it before, but Bugs Bunny is strangely attractive when he dresses up like a woman."

    "How do these dingbat pseudo-colleges find students dumb enough to mistake those places for higher education?"

    "If you think that people should convert just in case there is a hell, then why don't you convert to Islam and Hindu so that you don't end up in those hells either?"

    You know, just sayin, I didn't know that your foil hat could be made in such a way as to hold a gallon of your kool-aid. That is a really good innovation for you! You learned that at church? Yeah, okay."

    "Evidence. Still waiting."

    'Get a freaking clue! He was a con man! No golden plates, no chariots and steel and horses in ancient America, and the Temple in Salt Lake City is the center of the grift universe!"

    "If you think of who is going to heaven and what they will be doing there, you will realize that it is actually a horrific hell."

    "You know, it might not be such a good idea as you think to elect Mitt Romney's invisible friend president."

    "It's not a sign there would be no more floods; it's freaking refraction!!!

    "Well yes, I actually would take Christine O'Donnell out on a date it she dressed like a witch and I could get her really drunk."

    "I see the belief Blog bought yet another story on the Christian Implications Of Roller Derby from the Harry Potter chickypoo."

    "Okay, I have seen the light. I have found Jesus, thanks to the brilliant logic of Kirk Cameron and his lover in this video:

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4&w=640&h=390]

    Have a good one!

    May 18, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Mike Hunt

      So what kind of kitty litter do you use? And where do you keep your litter-box(es)?
      My apocalyptic expectations will not seem complete without this information, so please respond!

      May 19, 2012 at 12:22 am |
  14. Voice of Reason

    One knucklehead in the crowd, booed by his peers. Hopefully this next generation of graduates have a better sense of reality as it seems by their response to the idiot in the audience. Evolution in small steps but nevertheless moving in the right direction.

    May 18, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • Answer

      Death makes us all equal.

      May 18, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      And?

      May 18, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
  15. Excuse Me

    May I say , She's Hot !

    May 18, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Intelligent people usually are.

      May 18, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Ok...on the View, in the "Left" corner is Joy Behar ,,, in the "Right" corner is Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

      Yeah, I guess the intelligent ones are the cuter ones.

      ....then again, I saw the pictures of Hillary Clinton in her college years ... crazy hottness. Hillary, in her those years could make me switch political parties. :)

      May 19, 2012 at 1:14 am |
    • Crom

      Sibelius is nice-looking.
      She's easy on the eyes and even easier to listen to because she knows how to speak clearly and intelligently.
      I'm glad she's in charge of something around here.
      Beauty is more than skin-deep, at least it is for some of us.
      And having competent, ethical, and intelligent people in charge of things is more important than money, at least for some of us. *cough cough*

      May 19, 2012 at 2:37 am |
    • GQ

      HER NECK COULD USE A LIFT WITH A FEW DOZEN STAPLES. SHE'S DEFINITELY OLD.

      May 19, 2012 at 3:33 am |
  16. Alien Orifice

    Believers navigate through life using Dead Reckoning. That is why they are always lost.

    May 18, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    May 18, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
  18. Narle

    Catholics graduate from one mistake to the next.

    May 18, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
  19. Max in OC

    Now that's what I am talking about–Steve has an opinion and a non-belief–but rather than just respect it, Captain America has to go and call him names. Why?? So there we have it–believers and non believers. We can all respect each other and be happy. But someone always has to get rude and crude. And then we ask why the nation is so screwed up. And its not because of a Democratic or Republican president–its because of the choices we as Americans make. We've destroyed every principle that this nation was founded on. And when I say we–I mean ALL of us.

    May 18, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Agreed...

      May 18, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • Crom

      Since you don't know what the hell you're talking about, pretending that we ALL did something you don't like just shows your delusional bias.
      Hater. You want to disapprove of everyone so you can feel morally superior, but the fact of the matter is that you are just stupid and do not speak for anyone but yourself.

      May 18, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
    • A Serpent's Thought

      Jeeesh,,,, Someone either went to bed alone or got out in the morning without any!

      May 18, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
    • pervert alert

      Truth is not hate. When ever a qu-eer or atheist is confronted with Truth they whine and moan about hate. Guess what – your total complaint is no more than bull sh it designed to hide your perversions, and we all know it

      May 18, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • momoya

      @ Pervert

      So you're so arrogant that you refuse to let other people define their own feelings?? Wow, it's a mind like that that punishes people for all eternity in a fire pit for acting exactly like people.

      May 18, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • pervert alert

      @momoya
      It is one thing to hide your sins under sh it, but you seem to like to play in it. It is past the point where humanity can tell the bull sh it from the pos you are. That is your own failing

      May 18, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Always love it when Cap'n Sayin' Atheism Isn't an Angry Pervert comes out to play.
      I heard you're schizophrenic – I guess that makes 9 of us.

      May 18, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • momoya

      I think that Pervert is rotting away pretty quickly from the inside out–starting at the center of his brain.. Who else here thinks that if we had his computer as evidence he'd be demonstrated as the most severe pervert on these boards?

      May 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • Crom

      That sounds like a sure bet. Anyone who talks like crazyturd-sayin' is almost sure to be up to his eyebrows in filth – just by way of being a typical delusional hypocrite, of course...

      May 18, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • get over it already

      @momoya you tell pervert that they should let others express themselves but your not willing to do the same. Where I come from that is called Hypocracy! This is a faith blog not an atheist blog. The same lot of you come here everyday and post your insults and blaspamy. Its like you atheist have no life. Seriously if you are so content and free from the burdens you find in religion, why bother?! If you care that much about others civil liberties get off your rump and actually do something besides post on a religious blog. Its ok to let go and live your life. I mean geez why let religion cause you so much distress?! I have not waisted one second on an atheist blog because unlike you I dont care. Atheist are not going anywhere and niether is religion. Get over it already!

      May 19, 2012 at 12:27 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Funny... Momo when confronted by someone who speaks her sometimes cursing and swearing language, she folds and speaks without swear words.

      You are a interesting one Ma'am.

      May 19, 2012 at 1:17 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      pervert alert.. you speak of truth but you do not know what it is do you? The real issue is that you have prejudices that you think come from god and that makes them truth . As god is just an hypothesis at this time,it would make your truth, until proof is offered, invalid.

      May 19, 2012 at 2:42 am |
    • GQ

      THERE IS NO POINT IN SHOWING RESPECT FOR CHRISTIANS. THEY'RE MORONS.

      May 19, 2012 at 3:34 am |
    • momoya

      @getoverit

      if you had written a single line that wasn't outright lie, I'd try to help you understand my position.. But based on what I said and what you said it's clear you're talking about somebody in another county or something–it sure doesn't have any relation to what I expressed..

      @Mark

      Fvck you, you stupid git.. You couldn't track the essential issue if it was the only one you'd ever been trained to observe.

      May 19, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
  20. Max in OC

    Just because we pray doesn't mean God will answer every prayer. I don't know why–nobody does. God has a plan for each one of us. Sometimes the answer to those prayers manifests itself in ways we would not anticipate or understand. He gives us what we need not what we want. Why is it that believers and non-believers just can't agree to disagree. I respect an Atheist's, Buddhist's and Mormon's beliefs–every belief–even though I don't agree. There are non-believers and believers like me who have faith and live by faith–the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. I respect that some people hate and don't believe in prayer–why can't we all just respect one another? I don't know–but I hope and pray for it.

    May 18, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • Crom

      You demand respect without earning it.
      You are the hater here.

      You have no authority behind your words or behind your religion.
      Your god does not exist.
      Why should we respect a religious view that has no god behind it and no authority?

      Why should we respect your schizophrenic delusions, your unrealistic biases, your twisted ethics that cause so much harm?

      May 18, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • Emmsy

      Max speaks on behalf of other men who claimed to speak on behalf of a God thousands of years ago....okay got it,.

      May 18, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Max
      It is laudable that you tolerate the heathens in the name of faith.
      However, to many of us faith is not a virtue.
      The wiling cessation of rational inquiry in favour of dogmatic rote answers is a denial of the insatiable curiosity that has driven the development of our species.

      May 18, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • captain america

      canadian qu-eers coming out of the woodwork. We don't need your opinion any more than Canada does doc. Doc Vestibules here, watch you don't step in it. There's your sign

      May 18, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Oh look it's cappie. I wonder when he/she/it will actually get some semblance of a life and a sense of self-worth. Maybe when that happens he/she/it won't need to be a useless little troll.

      May 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • captain america

      Oops looks like Hawaii Guest walked right into it. Looks like dog crap, smells like dog crap, Hawaii even tasted it and still stepped right in it. There's your sign

      May 18, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Well cappie thank you for your demonstration on being a useless troll.

      May 18, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • captain america

      No thank you for being a useless citizen. There's your sign

      May 18, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Oh boohoo cappie thinks I'm a useless citizen, oh whatever shall I do. Wait, no one really gives a rats ass what cappie thinks anyway. I feel all better now.

      May 18, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      God Answers Prayers Of Paralyzed Little Boy
      'No,' Says God

      http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-answers-prayers-of-paralyzed-little-boy,475/

      May 18, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
    • mema

      @crom...Max did not demand anything nor did he claim to speak in authority. You say God does not exist, I say evolution is nothing more than a theory! If in fact we had evolved where is the evidence?! You do realize that the odds that no archeologist(s) have unearthed all those missing links between earliest life up to life as it is now is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of, 0! Dinosaurs, prehistoric bacteria( microscopic I might add), layers upon layers of sediment millions of years old ect..have been found but no missing links. The sheer number of fossils that would be out there had we evolved would be astronomical given the amount of millenia it would have taken man to go from single cell to fully formed man. Not to mention how our population numbers should increase that number exponentially. Yet all scientist have are a few fossils of a extint species that do not resemble man at all. Oh but shared DNA is your next argument. But the fact remains that that teenie tiny difference makes ALL the difference. Now all that being said, thats just for man, there should/would be billions of fossil remains for all other species of life. If I can not prove to you that God exist then there is no way for you to prove that we are here by any reasonable means.

      May 19, 2012 at 9:17 am |
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