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May 25th, 2012
11:01 AM ET

Foxworthy hosts 'Biblical' new game show

(CNN)– Comedian Jeff Foxworthy will host "American Bible Challenge," a new show premiering this summer on GSN.  CNN's Carol Costello reports.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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  1. Reality

    Putting the bible into proper 21st century perspective

    ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF THIS BLOG:

    1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    “New Torah For Modern Minds

    Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

    prob•a•bly
    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

    2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

    For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

    Current RCC problems:

    Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

    2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of NT/Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    May 25, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • Jebus

      I like it. You are definitly efficient.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • old golfer

      Good post.

      May 28, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  2. Jebus

    @Topher – "inspired word of god" That word inspired really does it for you? So basically, regardless of the contradictions, "misspellings", murder, pro-slavery statements, etc. The word "inspired" helps continue believing in this farce? Well then your believe is pretty weak.

    May 25, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Topher

      Yeah, it does. If there's a God and He gave us His word, I'm going to listen to it. And I've heard this slavery stuff from you atheists before and it is nothing. The "slavery" of the Bible is nothing like the racist slavery we know in this country.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      It's amazing how well the bible was written to seem like it was authored by many anonymous bronze age people who knew nothing about science or anything but what was going on in the middle east.

      Just shows how powerful that god really is.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Topher, Topher, Topher,

      So the sIavery form back then was much different right? Is that why they say how hard that they can beat their sIaves so that they don’t die within 2 days?

      You’re a tard.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Topher wrote, " The "slavery" of the Bible is nothing like the racist slavery we know in this country."

      Well, the only thing different was the race part. Your godn had these bronze-age cretins capture young virgin girls and use them as sèx slaves. You could beat the crap out of your slaves, and if they lived for a couple days you were fine. You could ràpe your sèx slaves and then give them to your sons.

      If you bought one of your neighbor's kids, you had to set them free after 7 years. Well, as long as they were male. If you bought girls, you got to keep them forever. Hell, you could even force them to marry you. And seriously, what young teen virgin girl doesn't dream of being sold as a slave, being ràped over and over, and then being forced to marry the cretin.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Jebus

      I can NOT wait for this show to start! With all the contradictions in the bible and the perception of American favoritism towards a single religion...so much opportunity to see xtian shame, absurdities, and chaos!!! I need popcorn.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • Mister Jones

      @Topher – The racist slavery in this country was performed by good god-fearing Christians, yet they still needed their cotton picked, so they made exceptions. This is the type of hypocrisy that intelligent people try to make you aware of, but you seem unwiling or incapable of anything that doesn't correspond with the way you have been raised. And that staunch, unflinching, unquestioning devotion to your set of beliefs, and that everyone else is wrong, is what makes religious fanatics (of any flavor) a dangerous breed.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  3. Jebus

    @Topher – There's no evidence for your god or anyone else's. No more than there is for the existence of Santa Claus.

    May 25, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      There is no evidence for the contrary either....that a human created the concept of God. You might @ssume it but you are no better than those of faith.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      By that reasoning then you should believe EVERYTHING that you are told regardless of the evidence.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • Topher

      There's plenty of evidence that there's a God if you'd be willing to listen to it. But it doesn't seem like you are. I can't help it if you've hardened your heart against it.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • Jebus

      @Trivia: god of where three roads meet – "There is no evidence for the contrary either....that a human created the concept of God. You might @ssume it but you are no better than those of faith"

      You make the mistake of mathimatical probablity that somehow the two are equally likely.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Actually Trivia, there are whole fields of evolutionary psychology that investigate the evolution of religion and deities in humans.

      We also now have actual neurophysiological, neurochemical and neuroanatomical, and genetiic research into beliefs.

      And during neurosurgery and brain mapping, we can induce "near death experiences" and send people towards "the light".

      May 25, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Tropher, There is NO evidence that any gods exist. NONE. If you have it then you will be the first. Every bit of apologetics has been beaten down over and over again.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • Primewonk

      I wonder when Topher will get around to providing this evidence that his god exists, and that his god is "the god"?

      May 25, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • Jebus

      Let me see. Let me see. It will be a historical event like none other. Scientists from all over the world will peer review Topher's evidence and begin running to the nearest Church of Topher for forgiveness for their logical past errors. All praise Topher! I mean Jebus. Praise Jebus for making Topher so smart and getting onto CNN!!

      May 25, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Don't you know, the evidence is the emotional response you have to everyday events.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      @Primewonk- "Actually Trivia, there are whole fields of evolutionary psychology that investigate the evolution of religion and deities in humans."

      ~Never denied there was. However, they have yet to be able to point to any historical figure and say, "that person created the concept of God and I can prove it with scientific data". I am referring to God from the Judeo-Christian perspective since it's from the largest current religion in the world.

      "We also now have actual neurophysiological, neurochemical and neuroanatomical, and genetiic research into beliefs."

      ~Knowing why some people believe still doesn't provide evidence of who created the faith.

      "And during neurosurgery and brain mapping, we can induce "near death experiences" and send people towards "the light"."

      ~Lol...seems like you are taking a single individual's word for it. How do YOU know what they are witnessing unless you try it yourself? I find it odd that atheists won't take a believer's word for what they experience but they will if it seems scientific enough. In the end, one is still having to put faith into what the person is saying.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      @Honey Badger Dont Care- "By that reasoning then you should believe EVERYTHING that you are told regardless of the evidence."

      ~Not true...we use personal experience, research, logic..etc to arrive to the conclusions of what we believe and know.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      @Jebus- "You make the mistake of mathimatical probablity that somehow the two are equally likely."

      ~You are making the error of @ssuming you know what you are talking about. Since all variables of existence has yet to be determined, let alone all possible existences and the variables within that mess....we finite beings should probably not say what has the higher mathematical probability. Maybe when we realize what quantum universe we are in, we'll have a better idea.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • mandarax

      @Trivia "they have yet to be able to point to any historical figure and say, "that person created the concept of God and I can prove it with scientific data".

      That's true, but that's also true for most anything that happened before writing – archaeology rarely identifies individuals. Also no one knows the historical figure who invented the wheel, houses, agriculture, sandals, the fork, language, or writing itself for that matter. These things are probably concepts that evolved among populations, not individuals. The magical thinking of attributing unexplained phenomena to "gods" almost certainly precedes any of these things.

      As a matter of fact, the technological progress of humans is primarily a record of relying less and less upon magic (gods) as an explanation, and more and more upon observable phenomena and rational principles. As legitimate knowledge grows, gods become more abstract, more hidden, and more relegated to the gaps in what is understood.

      In the early days, gods lived on the mountaintops or in the sea, until we explored them. Then gods were placed just above us in the sky, until we explored the sky. Then god was placed safely out in space, until we started exploring space. Now the believers insist he resides outside of the universe, beyond space and time. Funny how they have to keep moving him to explain the fact that he is never there.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
  4. Honey Badger Dont Care

    Jesus had a bad weekend for our sins.

    May 25, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Is that concern in your sentence? Didn't anyone tell you that honey badgers don't care?

      May 25, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Honey Badger dont care. Honey Badger dont give a sh:t.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      You did enough to respond.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      I'm just wasting time till I get off work and can go and get a beer at the VFW.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      What brand you drinking?

      May 25, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      VFW?

      May 25, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Veterans of Foreign Wars

      May 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Bud Select.

      VFW = Veterans of Foreign Wars

      May 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Almost forgot
      *salute*

      May 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Right back at you,

      *salute*

      Jebus is going to turn the water into beer.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  5. Honey Badger Dont Care

    If you were to print out a list of all of the contradictions in the bible it would be as long as, well, the bible.

    May 25, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Shockingly..we don't care.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
  6. Trivia: god where three roads meet

    another game show....good as any I suppose

    May 25, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  7. Cq

    Considering how many Bible passages contradict each other I'm guessing that contestants will be asking for judgments pretty regularly, and may get pretty miffed when something they know is in the Bible turns out not to be.

    Anyway, I'd like to be optimistic and think of how many armchair theologians out there in TV land and on the stage will end up being humbled when their actual knowledge gets tested, but I think that the questions will be selected so as not to stir any controversy with their intended audience and contestant pool. So, I'm guessing that some passages of the Bible will never be tapped into, not even if the show goes on for as long as Jeopardy!

    May 25, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • Topher

      Cq

      "Considering how many Bible passages contradict each other I'm guessing that contestants will be asking for judgments pretty regularly, and may get pretty miffed when something they know is in the Bible turns out not to be."

      Contradictions such as?

      May 25, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

      LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
      GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

      GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
      GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

      LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

      JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

      May 25, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • Topher

      lunchbreaker
      I'm trying to find the contradiction in that Genesis account, but I don't see it. Help me out?

      May 25, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • Cq

      Topher
      There's a partial list on this site:

      http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

      And I'll save you the trouble of directing me to any sites refuting that these are actually contradictions because I've seen them, and I wasn't impressed with their wordplay attempts of trying to argue that they aren't. The Bible was written by a lot of different people, to different audiences so just accept that some of the things that they say don't jive with other things.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

      I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

      May 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      topher, the first says animals came first, the second says Adam came first.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • Topher

      Cq

      I appreciate the fact you attempted to look up some explanations (that's better than the ridiculous claims by some atheists here), but I'm afraid I'm not going to believe the blatant bias that would be exhibited by a site called "infidels." Give me something unbiased or at least by a Christian who believes there are errors that need to be discussed.

      You're right. The Bible was written by around 40 people. And even if I were to conscede those are contradictions (which I don't) none of them changes the basic theology that we've all sinned and need a savior and God provided that savior to us so that we can go to Heaven.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      I thought the bible was the word of god?

      May 25, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Is your god not all powerfull and unchanging?

      May 25, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • sam

      'give me something by a christian'

      ::facepalm::

      May 25, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Right, nothing like a little confirmation bias to reinforce those false beliefs.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • Topher

      Wrath of Zeus
      "I thought the bible was the word of god?

      Is your god not all powerfull and unchanging?"

      He is. What's your point? This all happened on Day 6. Could have been all at the same time for all I know. Doesn't change anything.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      con·tra·dic·tion 
      1. the act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition.
      2. assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
      3. a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.
      4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.
      5. a contradictory act, fact, etc.

      Call it what you want Topher. You are right it doesn't change the the theology, but a contradiction is a contradiction. If one verse says 3 years and another says 7 years, those versus contradict each other. Are you going to tell me that

      II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

      does NOT contradict

      I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;?

      Minor detail, but still a contradiction.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      If your god is all powerfull then he wouldnt need to have a bunch of bronze age sheep herders write his "words" on biodegradable parchments.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • Topher

      "If your god is all powerfull then he wouldnt need to have a bunch of bronze age sheep herders write his "words" on biodegradable parchments."

      And yet we still have His words in 2012 AD

      May 25, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • Topher

      lunchbreaker

      Do with this as you will, but here's the note on I Chronicles 21:12 in the John MacArthur Study Bible. "'Three years" here is correct; 'seven years' in 2 Sam. 24:13 is most likely a copyist's error, since it seems three years, three months, three days is the intent."

      May 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      That is evidence of two things. First is the human thirst for exploration and knowledge. The second is the ease of which weak minds will beleive a delusion forced upon them from the parents or gaudians.

      That has no bearing on the truth of the bible or how powerful your god is.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      So then it isnt the innerant word of your god then is it? Your god is not powerful enough to ensure that the evidience of what some might as.sume is the most important thing to him, us worshiping him, is done in a way that cant be misinterpreted.

      Now you will go on to say something about free will or your god testing our faith. Still B S.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • Topher

      "The second is the ease of which weak minds will beleive a delusion forced upon them from the parents or gaudians."

      That may well be. But not in my case.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Topher

      "So then it isnt the innerant word of your god then is it? Your god is not powerful enough to ensure that the evidience of what some might as.sume is the most important thing to him, us worshiping him, is done in a way that cant be misinterpreted."

      Sure it is. But the Bible isn't perfect. For instance, there are misspellings. The important thing to know is that is the innerrant, inspired word of God. Even these minor things that are there ... we know about them and they don't change a thing in the Gospel.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      So you can tell me that if you were born in China or deep in the Congo wher you would most likely never have even heard of xtianity that you would for sure be a xtian? I doubt it.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Topher

      "So you can tell me that if you were born in China or deep in the Congo wher you would most likely never have even heard of xtianity that you would for sure be a xtian? I doubt it."

      Maybe. Maybe not. I'd know for sure there's a God. Creation tells me that at the very least. And I'd hope that a Christian missionary would come to my village and tell me of Christ. Which is exactly why I am telling everyone I can. We all have sinned and deserve Hell. But there's hope in the sacrificial work of The Lamb.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      And I am telling you that I HAVE NOT SINNED. You have to first believe in sin to be taken in by the guilt trip created by your church.

      I have this great news to tell you. You can be saved by Jesus, but first you have to believe that you're a piece of Sh.It.

      That's pretty stu.pid.

      And anyway, how could a god sacrifice himself to himself in order to fulfill a loophole that he himself created? Sounds pretty stu.pid to anyone who can think for themselves.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Regarding the 2 different orders of creation in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 – Topher wrote, " I'm trying to find the contradiction in that Genesis account, but I don't see it. Help me out?"

      Seriously? In Genesis 1 – on day 5 your god creates fish and birds. On day 6 he createss land animals THEN he creates man.

      In Genesis 2 – your god first creates man. Then he creates land animals and birds. Then he creates woman.

      You seriously do not see a difference there?

      I swear to god (sorry) one day one of you fundiots will spin so fast that you will implode into a black hole.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      "Seriously? In Genesis 1 – ...In Genesis 2 –... "

      ~There are two creation stories in Genesis. I suggest researching Elohist and Yahwist sources of Genesis.
      This also explains why Noah had 7 of each clean animal on the Ark.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care

      "And I am telling you that I HAVE NOT SINNED. You have to first believe in sin to be taken in by the guilt trip created by your church."

      You might not feel guilty. That's your problem. But just because you don't believe doesn't mean you haven't sinned. God is real whether you believe in him or not. And thus you have sinned.

      "I have this great news to tell you. You can be saved by Jesus, but first you have to believe that you're a piece of ...
      That's pretty stu.pid.

      "And anyway, how could a god sacrifice himself to himself in order to fulfill a loophole that he himself created? Sounds pretty stu.pid to anyone who can think for themselves."

      God exists in three persons ... Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The Son was the sacrifice. He was the fulfillment of the OT. All those sacrifices in the OT were a covering for sin. Jesus Christ, who didn't sin (spotless) was the perfect sacrifice that takes away our sins.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Primewonk

      @ Trivia – Topher claimed there was no contradiction in Genesis. I simply pointed out that he was wrong. And showed him how he was wrong.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Oh..I didn't post that to argue or anything. Just that some people don't realize why there are essentially two creation stories. I just wanted to put up some info.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Topher, you really dont see how stipid any of this sounds do you?

      May 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • Confused

      Topher

      Honest question, if god wanted to forgive us, why did he need a sacrifice, especially that of his own son? Whenever I want to forgive someone a simple apology would do, why did god need it to be sealed in human blood? It was good enough the first time around to sacrifice the sheep he sent to Abraham because killing his only son was too precious. Does he value his own son less than man?

      May 25, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • Cq

      Topher
      Why do you assume that atheists generally dismiss the Bible out of hand, without bothering to check into things first? I personally don't know any atheists who wouldn't be good contestants in this game. I'd say that we generally know quite a bit about the Bible and other scriptures, Christianity and other religions, God and other gods.

      Outside of the commentary, infidels.org does list these contradictions by grouping them so that they can be seen together. Obviously, a conservative Christian would deny that there are any, and they wouldn't see anyone who admitted to seeing, and being troubled by, the contradictions as a "true" Christian like themselves. If you do not believe that there are contradictions then you also have a "bias", yes?

      As to the rest, perhaps you should view this video:

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDgaSpmMnpM&w=640&h=360]

      May 25, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • Topher

      Hi, Confused.
      God does want to forgive you. That's demonstrated in His dying for us. One of the best analogies I know is the one of a courtroom. If you're being sentenced for a major crime, you can't just say to the judge, "Please forgive me and let me go. I'm usually a good person." The judge would say "You should be sorry. But you must still pay for your crimes." So you see, an apology just won't do with a judge. The Bible describes atonement with blood with "spotless lambs." In the OT, it was with animals and was only a covering for the sins. Jesus wasn't just a man. He was (and is) God. He lived a perfect, sinless life and was thus worthy of making a once-and-for-all sacrifice.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Confused

      Hi Topher,

      I'm sorry, but you're analogy doesn't quite cut it. I'm not taken to court because my dad committed a crime, let alone my supposed great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather (or whatever). However, that's not really my point, the Judge is supposed to be a third, unbias party, but in this case, god is technically the "wronged" deity or in your courtroom analogy, the prosecution and if the prosecution wanted an apology from the supposed defendant, do you think they would accept a completely selfless act from a random person off the street?

      Furthermore, I understand the since jesus is supposed to be the lord incarnate, or something along those lines, he's supposed to have an unblemished record, but who knows what he did in the years between his birth and when he came on the scene again at age 34? He could easily have committed at least ONE sin right?

      May 25, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  8. scottbark

    Reblogged this on Hearing it and commented:
    Now if I can only find GSN on my TV...

    May 25, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      It's somewhere between hillbilly handfishing, swamp people and my big redneck wedding...

      May 25, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  9. Doc Vestibule

    This could be fun. Let's have a sample question.
    God committed or commanded genocide against which of the following:
    a) Amorites b) Hit.ites c) Canaanites d) Hivites e) Pruzzites f) Jebusites g) all of the above h) none of the above

    In the Bible,certain snakes are able to:
    a) talk b) kill you with a look c) live while on fire d) all of the above e) none of the above

    The oldest lving tree as measured by ring count is older than Noah's flood by:
    a) 100 years b) 400 years c) 1000 years d) 10,000 years e) everything died in the flood so it can't exist

    May 25, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      c)
      a)
      c) (although it's actually older than 1,000, but a good bit less than 10,000)

      What do I win?

      May 25, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Sorry Rational, but you lose.
      Pehaps I should be more specific with the oldest tree: I am referring to was a Great Basin Bristlecone Pine.
      There is a creosote bush in the Mojave desert that has been dated to 11,700 years by both ring count, distance of annual growth and radiocarbon dating.
      But we all know that Creationists will poo-poo radiocarbon dating and I don't much feel like getting into that debate so we'll stick to the big ol' tree whose age was determined by simply counting up the rings. 🙂

      May 25, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Quaking Aspen – 80,000 – 1, 000, 0000 years old (est)
      Jurupa Oak – 13,000 years old (est)

      Methuselah 4843–4844[a] Great Basin bristlecone pine – Pinus longaeva (Oldest known currently living tree)

      May 25, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Cq

      Doc
      I'm not sure that the last question qualifies as a Bible question, but you could ask what age the Bible says the Earth is and probably stumble most of them.

      Better yet, ask "What does the Bible state was the sin of Sodom?" and you'll probably get the wrong answer. The only place where the Bible spells out what it was is in Ezekiel 16:49

      Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Dag nabbit. My brain wasn't functioning properly. I was counting from the glorious beginning of creation 6,000 years ago (yup, that's 6,000 years ago scientists, how dare you use quantifiable and indisputable evidence over archaic desert books which worship a storm god), rather than when the great Noah built the Ark.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Lucifer
      The first two are clonal colonies, not individual trees.
      I'm trying to avoid unnecessary arguments with those who will nit-pick and say they aren't trees, can't be dated properly etc etc.
      But there was a tree cut down in 1964 whose rings were counted and docu/mented. Even the most fundie bibliot hopefully can count and recognizes that tree rings in a single trunk indicate the age of the tree.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Please let's not turn this thread into an argument about what consti tutes a tree.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • momoya

      If a person doesn't understand the basics of dendrochronology, and how it does not require all the rings to be found in one trunk, they hardly have any business claiming a particular age for the earth.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • Cq

      Doc
      I think your tree evidence is likely why creationists have switched from saying that the Earth was only 6000 years old to 10,000 or so years old. Find an older tree core sample and they'll retreat even more. Tree rings are simple to understand, but carbon dating sounds like so much Greek to the scientifically uneducated, which is why it's so easily dismissed, right?

      May 25, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      OK – the tree answer is:
      Noah was born 126 years after Adam's death at age 930, which brings us to the year 1056.
      Gen 7:6 tells us that Noah was 600 years old when the flood came, which brings us to the year 1656.
      If the Earth is 6,000 years old, minus 1656 gives us 4,344 years since Noah built the Ark.
      The oldest living tree thus far found (measured by ring count) was a Great Basin Bristlecone Pine which was 4,862 years old. That means the tree was around 400 years older than Noah's oldest son Ja.pheth when the flood happened.
      In California there is a colony of Palmer's Oak trees called Jurupa Oak that has been alive 13,000 years through clonal reproduction.
      Professor Frank Vasek confirmed the age of a Creosote bush in the Mojave Desert known as "King Clone" using two different methods. His project counted rings and measured the distance of annual growth, and then used radiocarbon dating on chunks of wood found in the center of the ring. Both dating methods yielded an age of 11,700 years.
      That makes the plant more than 7000 years older than Noah's flood.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      God wanted all of those tribes wiped off the Earth.
      And snakes can do all of those things in the Bible.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • Cq

      Doc
      The conservative Christian answer is easy; God created those trees already old, like he created the starlight tracks already en route to Earth giving the appearance of being older. Simple! 🙂

      May 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
  10. Honey Badger Dont Care

    If anyone is up in Chicago this weekend I will be at the auditions with a few of my friends. Come by and say "hi" to the winners.

    May 25, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Sorry, meant NEXT weekend. Tryouts for Chicago are 1-3 June.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Topher

      Dude! If you make it on the show, you've got to let us all know! Wear a shirt with a badger on it or something. 🙂

      May 25, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      I do in fact have a T-shirt that has "Honey Badger Dont Care" on it but I dont think that it would fit the network's dress code.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • Bunny madger do care

      Hope u s.uck it up and fail miserably honey doosh

      May 25, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      @honey

      What r u trying out for?

      May 25, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      This game show that this blog is about.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
  11. Wrath of Zeus

    Thou shall not be a mediocre redneck comedian.

    May 25, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      yeah..be miserbale with all that money you made...that'll show you

      May 25, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
  12. Topher

    Hey, ME II
    Did you give any more thought to the things we were talking about yesterday?

    May 25, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • ME II

      Sorry, refresh my memory, what was the discussion?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Topher

      Just in general what Christians believe and why we try to tell everyone.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      Were not interested in what you're selling

      May 25, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • ME II

      If you're referring to this discussion:
      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/23/accused-priest-i-was-helping-priests-and-helping-victims-as-best-i-could/comment-page-1/#comments

      I don't agree with your position, obviously, but I also don't agree with your need to tell everyone. "I think I know the truth and I'm trying to tell you what it is," as you told @BRC. You are free to do so, of course.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  13. Thou Shalt Not!

    show thy bosom to random strangers!

    😉

    May 25, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Unless it's for Mardi Gras beads and your a smokin' hot college girl. Then it's ok.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
  14. Honey Badger Dont Care

    Wow, she really stared backpeadling when she was asked if they can play for secular organizations. I bet that an atheist group will get on there and totally kick azz. Noone knows more about religion than an atheist. FACT!

    May 25, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Topher

      Not a fact. Opinion.

      And I kinda thought the interviewer showed her bias when she got her ire up about there being Christian organizations. What else are Christians going to play for?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • ME II

      @Topher,
      The "ire" was about excluding non-faith based participants and/or charities. Or are you saying that Christians wouldn't donate to the Red Cross or Doctor's without Borders?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      NO, you are wrong.

      http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1745/religious-knowledge-in-america-survey-atheists-agnostics-score-highest

      FACT!

      May 25, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Topher

      ME II
      The "ire" was about excluding non-faith based participants and/or charities. Or are you saying that Christians wouldn't donate to the Red Cross or Doctor's without Borders?

      I don't know if those organizations are Christian or secular. That's not the point. A newsperson is supposed to be unbiased. She clearly isn't.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • ME II

      Biased? The question seemed legitimate to me, for a journalist.
      The network, I as.sume the anchor was reading from something the network put out, stating "... representing worthy [faith]-based organizastions." How do they determine worth, would be another legit question, but probably not for minute+ interview.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Cq

      Depends on who's selecting the questions. Odds are that a Christian set of judges will only select questions that a typical Christian would encounter in their reading and worship. Lesser known, shall we say controversial bits, ones that might shock people or upset the contestants and audience, probably won't be asked.

      Too bad! Most atheists probably would know enough to win against typical Christians, but these contestants won't be typical Christians just like Jeopardy! contestants aren't typical American-educated people, right?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Cq

      I wonder if they would consider a team playing for Westboro Baptist Church a worthy organization? It would be interesting to see the outcome of the show either accepting, or rejecting their application.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
  15. J.W

    I bet we would all do good on this show we should all try out.

    May 25, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care
      So you've never told a lie? Or stolen something? Or looked with lust?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Tropher, you replied in the wrong place. I know that navigating this blog is a hard thing to do.

      I've done all of those things and broken every one of the commandments in Exodus 20 many times over. I've also broken many of the ten commandments, which are found in Exodus 34.

      I dont believe that there are any sins so no, I havent committed any sins.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care

      "Tropher, you replied in the wrong place. I know that navigating this blog is a hard thing to do."

      Yep. I saw that and reposted in the correct place.

      "I've done all of those things and broken every one of the commandments in Exodus 20 many times over. I've also broken many of the ten commandments, which are found in Exodus 34."

      I've broken them all, too. Including all of the 10 Commandments.

      "I dont believe that there are any sins so no, I havent committed any sins."

      I know you don't believe in them. But IF there's a Heaven and God judged you based on His laws, would you be innocent or guilty?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      No such thing as sin. Christian made guilt trip.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Dont play your "Way of the Master" games on me. They dont work.

      So, you've broken all of The Ten Commandments? So you've boiled a got in its mother's milk? You sick azz.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care

      This is no game. It's very serious.

      "So, you've broken all of The Ten Commandments? So you've boiled a got in its mother's milk? You sick azz."

      That's not one of the 10 Commandments. I thought you atheists knew the Bible better than us Christians.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      Its not a game, your faith is a joke. Just like your non existent god.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      The only place in the text of the bible that has the words "The Ten Commandments" is in Exodus 34. Maybe you should read it again. You really dont know that much about your book of multiple guess do you?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care
      "The only place in the text of the bible that has the words "The Ten Commandments" is in Exodus 34. Maybe you should read it again. You really dont know that much about your book of multiple guess do you?"

      The Ten Commandments is chapter 20. Chapter 34 is where the passage he refered to appears. It says "The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk."

      This is talking about sacrifices under the old covenant. We're under a new covenant. The sacrifice that is needed has already been done. Jesus Christ.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      I appreciate the fact that you went and looked up the passages but you are completely wrong. The second set of stone tablets have a completely different set of "ten commandments" than in Exodus 20. Even though your infallable god said, " “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke." lays out ten completely different commandments and then finishes with, "“Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” 28 Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments." This clearly shows that the second set are completely different. And Exodus 28 is the ONLY place in the bible that has the words "the ten commandments" in the text.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
  16. C'mon Bro

    Glad I'm not an atheist. The ones I know in real life are pretty sh.itty people who are most certainly not as happy as they claim. Funny how they do all claim to be so moral and happy though right?

    May 25, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "who are most certainly not as happy as they claim." So you feel when they say "Atheism makes me happy" they don't mean it, but when you tell them "Christianity makes me happy" you expect them to believe you?

      The truth is, you don't have any atheist friends.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • Topher

      Hard to be happy without hope.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • C'mon Bro

      @massdebater,

      The truth is I do have friends who are atheist and actions speak louder than words. I don't just choose not believe them, I look at what they say (I'm happy) and then what their actions are in real life (lots of drama, trying to cause trouble for others, not being honest, etc) and a decently intelligent person is able to tell that they're lying.

      What a crazy philosophy right? I mean the audacity that I have to make such a crazy assumption, just mindboggling.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • ME II

      "a decently intelligent person is able to tell that they're lying."
      What do you mean by this?

      First, not being a religion, Atheism does not proscribe a way of life or code to follow. Atheists need something else for that, and while many choose something like Humanism, it is a personal choice.
      That being said, however, what do think the Atheists, that you know, are lying about and how can "a decently intelligent person" tell they are lying?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • ME II

      should be "prescribe"

      May 25, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • sam stone

      Topher: Hope for what? We live our lives and see joy in the present, not the promise of a future heaven.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Could it be that they are not happy because they have a judgemental azzhole of a friend like you?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Topher

      Hi, sam stone ... Hope that IF there's a Heaven there's forgiveness of sins.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      The only "sin" that there is, is belief without evidence. Otherwise known as faith.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Topher

      Whoops, under wrong post. Let's try again. 🙂

      Honey Badger Dont Care
      So you've never told a lie? Or stolen something? Or looked with lust?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • thecollegeadmissionsguru

      Wow, generalize much there? I know MANY atheists, I am one of them, and ALL of them are very nice people.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • old golfer

      I'm a Deist. However, all atheist's that I have met and talked to are in fact, very nice folks. They don't appear to have the guilt trip on them that religious folks have.

      May 28, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
  17. Jeff

    If you eloped to a quick mart for your wedding vows but want to deny gays rights to "protect the sanctlty of marriage"...

    You might be a red neck...

    May 25, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Yikes

      If you post on a cnn message board and think rednecks get married at gas stations....
      you might be a f.ucktard.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Mass Debater

      @Yikes – A little too close to home eh Yikes? I've seen several episodes of My Big Redneck Weddings with Tom Arnold where a Quickie Mart would have been an upgrade.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @O Snap –

      And the astonishing thing is he never learns. Even a dog learns to avoid the person that kicks him. Chad...you're an asshat.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @O Snap –

      Hey Snap...want to have some real fun? Ask Chad how punctuated equilibria and the "empty tomb" are evidence that god exists. Priceless! Crank-up the organ, put a penny in his hand, and watch the monkey dance!

      May 25, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
  18. ME II

    While I think this is a rather silly idea, I would love to see some non-theists as contestants... and the charities benefiting when the non-theist wins.

    May 25, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Topher

      I would have no problem with that. There's plenty of non-theists who actually know the Bible.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Chad

      You know of an atheist that knows the bible? I mean, other than having infidels.org bookmarked?

      May 25, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Mass Debater

      It would only be silly because the non-theist would wipe the floor with the theist 9 out of 10 times and I'm sure thats not the image the show wants to promote. Might as well call it "Are you smarter than an Atheist?".

      May 25, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Topher

      I'm sure they exist. After all, I keep being told I don't know what I'm talking about on message boards. So they must know more than me. 🙂

      May 25, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • ME II

      @Chad,
      Many Atheists are quite familiar with the Bible, due to the fact that many were raised as theists and realized how ridiculous it all was when they actually read the Bible.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • ME II

      I saw this attributed to Mark Twain, but not sure if he really said it?

      "The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible."

      May 25, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Topher

      Yeah, Mark Twain hated Christianity. Which is sad for me because I'm a big fan of his works and I would have hoped to be able to meet him one day. He also said this ...

      "It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

      I wish I knew which work this is from because it can be taken a few different ways. I'd love to know the context.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • momoya

      @ Chad

      I read the bible most every day.. I would imagine I spend more time reading more of the bible than 95% of christians.. I've read it cover to cover seven times, and I've read each verse maybe two dozen times.. I enjoy the exercise, and I enjoy the text, even though I know it's recycled myth..

      May 25, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Cq

      Chad
      I think you're mistaking knowing the content of the bible with a certain interpretation of what the bible means, which a lot of us atheists know as well, but just don't accept. Neither would all Christian teams accept what you believe the bible means, and I don't think that the game is intended to be solely for ultra-conservative evangelicals. There are plenty of others, both Christian and not, who are equally familiar with the content of the bible, right?

      May 25, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Chad

      @ME II "Many Atheists are quite familiar with the Bible"
      @Chad "well, i guess it all depends how you define "many" and "familiar". I have only met 1, perhaps 2 on this board that actually understood the fact that there is an old covenant, and a new covenant, and that the terms and conditions for entrance to heaven are different under the two.

      =================
      @momoya "I read the bible most every day"
      @Chad "I've interacted with you enough to know that either a) you dont pay any attention to what you read or b) you are not exactly telling the truth when you say that... Your ignorance of basic, basic, basic theology, and unfamiliarity with scriptures narrative demonstrates that quite clearly time and time again.

      ==========
      @Cq "I think you're mistaking knowing the content of the bible with a certain interpretation of what the bible means, which a lot of us atheists know as well, but just don't accept. Neither would all Christian teams accept what you believe the bible means, and I don't think that the game is intended to be solely for ultra-conservative evangelicals. There are plenty of others, both Christian and not, who are equally familiar with the content of the bible, right?
      @Chad "You are one of the perhaps 2 that I have met that is familiar with the biblical text and basic theology..

      No, when I say "atheists arent familiar with the bible" I mean just that.. havent read it, dont know what it says.

      my definition of "knowing what the bible says" is pretty simple:
      1. be able to articulate the old covenant, what were the terms and conditions of it, when was it in effect
      2. be able to articulate the new covenant, what are the terms and conditions of it, when did it go into effect

      that's it.. pretty basic stuff.. nothing there about calvinsim-armenianism, no eschatology etc.. basic stuff.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • momoya

      Chad, you've proved yourself to be a liar so many times, here, it hardly matters what your opinion is, as it's more than likely a lie, anyway.. Just because someone doesn't agree with HOW you interpret the scriptures doesn't mean that they don't know those scriptures.. Your bias runs way to deep for you to have any business basing your positions on what you consider to be "logic."

      May 25, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • Cq

      Chad
      When either covenant went into effect, and to what extent, is a matter of theological opinion, differing between individuals and denominations. So, no buddy, what you are arguing is that we don't agree with your interpretation of the Bible. It's the difference between asking sports facts like which team won the championship in a given year, and asking sports opinions like which team was the best in a given year, see?

      The content is still the same no matter who learns it, but it would be interesting if questions come up about things like the rapture, which isn't explicitly mentioned anywhere in the Bible. There will a lot of complaints forwarded to the show, I think, and I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't forced to cancel after just a handful of shows.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Topher

      The word rapture isn't there, but it is talked about. There isn't a question of IF the rapture, but WHEN.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • Chad

      @Cq "When either covenant went into effect, and to what extent, is a matter of theological opinion, differing between individuals and denominations. So, no buddy, what you are arguing is that we don't agree with your interpretation of the Bible"

      =>no it isnt 😉
      show me two denominations that disagree on this..

      May 25, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      If you were given an hororary degree from Harvard Law School, would you take the time to read any or all of the law books in their library? In the same way, Christians who are given the honorary "You are saved by just believing Christ is your savior" tend not to work so hard at reading the bible since hey, they are already saved so who needs to do all that hard work of 'lernin'...

      May 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Topher

      Mass Debater

      "In the same way, Christians who are given the honorary "You are saved by just believing Christ is your savior" tend not to work so hard at reading the bible since hey, they are already saved so who needs to do all that hard work of 'lernin'..."

      There's slightly more to it than that. After all, the Bible says the demons KNOW about Christ ...

      May 25, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      There are over 30,000 different denominations of xtianity on this planet. Many of them are completely contradictory and non-compatable. Take for instance this Nadarkani guy that is in Iran. He is a member of a cult that doesnt believe in the trinity but he calls him self a xtian. You probably wouldnt though.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Chad wrote, " You know of an atheist that knows the bible? I mean, other than having infidels.org bookmarked?"

      Are you not familiar with PEW Research poll on religious knowledge?

      http://www.pewforum.org/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey-Who-Knows-What-About-Religion.aspx

      The group that scored the highest? Atheists

      And the questions wern't just on the bible. It included Islam and Judism as well.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Chad

      @Chad "I know of only a few atheists that are familiar with bible basics"
      @Primewonk "Are you not familiar with PEW Research poll on religious knowledge? The group that scored the highest? Atheists"

      =>as you can see, a small percentage(16%) of the survey questions has anything to do with the bible, less than 1/2 of the total questions has anything to do at all with Judeo-Christianity.

      Bible
      What is the first book of the Bible? (Open-ended)
      What are the names of the first four books of the New Testament, that is, the four Gospels? (Open-ended)
      Where, according to the Bible, was Jesus born? Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Nazareth or Jericho?
      Which of these is NOT in the Ten Commandments? Do unto others…, no adultery, no stealing, keep Sabbath?
      Which figure is associated with remaining obedient to God despite suffering? Job, Elijah, Moses or Abraham?
      Which figure is associated with leading the exodus from Egypt? Moses, Job, Elijah or Abraham?
      Which figure is associated with willingness to sacrifice his son for God? Abraham, Job, Moses or Elijah?

      Elements of Christianity
      What is Catholic teaching about bread and wine in Communion? They become body and blood, or are symbols?
      Which group traditionally teaches that salvation is through faith alone? Protestants, Catholics, both or neither?
      Was Mother Teresa Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or Mormon?
      What is the name of the person whose writings and actions inspired the Reformation? Luther, Aquinas or Wesley?
      Who was a preacher during the First Great Awakening? Jonathan Edwards, Charles Finney or Billy Graham?

      Elements of Judaism
      When does the Jewish Sabbath begin? Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
      Was Maimonides Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Hindu or Mormon?

      Elements of Mormonism
      When was the Mormon religion founded? After 1800, between 1200 and 1800, or before 1200 A.D.?
      The Book of Mormon tells of Jesus appearing to people in what area? The Americas, Middle East or Asia?
      Was Joseph Smith Mormon, Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist or Hindu?

      World Religions
      Is Ramadan the Islamic holy month, the Hindu festival of lights or a Jewish day of atonement?
      Do you happen to know the name of the holy book of Islam? (Open-ended)
      Which religion aims at nirvana, the state of being free from suffering? Buddhism, Hinduism or Islam?
      Is the Dalai Lama Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Catholic or Mormon?
      In which religion are Vishnu and Shiva central figures? Hinduism, Islam or Taoism?
      What is the religion of most people in India? Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim or Christian?
      What is the religion of most people in Pakistan? Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or Christian?
      What is the religion of most people in Indonesia? Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or Christian?
      Who is the king of Gods in Greek mythology? Zeus, Mars or Apollo?

      Atheism and Agnosticism
      Is an atheist someone who does NOT believe in God, believes in God, or is unsure whether God exists?
      Is an agnostic someone who is unsure whether God exists, does NOT believe in God, or believes in God?

      Religion in Public Life
      What does Constitution say about religion? Separation of church and state, emphasize Christianity, or nothing?
      According to the Supreme Court, can a public school teacher lead a class in prayer?
      According to the Supreme Court, can a public school teacher read from the Bible as an example of literature?
      According to the Supreme Court, can a public school teacher offer a class comparing the world’s religions?

      May 25, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
    • Cq

      Chad
      The RC, Anglican, Calvinist and Lutheran views about the Old Testament covenant are all pretty distinct.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • Really-O?

      And off Chad goes on another one of his Gish-gallops. How ya doing, you dishonest asshat?

      May 25, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Chad – this goes to the point that atheists know more about all the religions than any group of theists. We know more about your bible than you do.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Primewonk – "Chad – this goes to the point that atheists know more about all the religions than any group of theists."

      Of course it does, but you know you're wasting your time with Chad...right?

      May 25, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • Chad

      @Primewonk "this goes to the point that atheists know more about all the religions than any group of theists. We know more about your bible than you do."
      @Chad "well
      a) clearly as you can see from above, that Pew research poll is not a poll on biblical knowledge.
      b) that still doesnt change the fact that I have yet to meet more than 1 or 2 atheists that even have a basic understanding of the bible.

      =====
      @Cq "The RC, Anglican, Calvinist and Lutheran views about the Old Testament covenant are all pretty distinct."
      @Chad "no they arent..
      If you are referring to whether or not certain aspects of the old covenant (such as the 10 commandments) are still in effect now under the new covenant, that is a different issue which is certainly in the "finer theological points" category which distinguishes Christian denominations.

      And which of course bears not on my original assertion that I have yet to meet more than 1 or 2 atheists that have a basic understanding of the bible.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @AHHHHHH!

      Come on folks! Stop feeding Chad. Seriously, what is the point? Chad is as dishonest as the day is long. Regardless of the strength of your argument, Chad will find a way to dance in circles. Seriously...what is the point?

      Oh yeah...and Chad...you're an asshat.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • Chad

      @Really-O? "Chad is as dishonest as the day is long. "

      =>you crack me up 😉

      do you have a specific example of "dishonesty"?
      no.. 😉
      but dont let that stop you..

      May 25, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad –
      All that is required for anyone to see your dishonesty is to read your posts...asshat.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad –
      I wonder what self-talk you use to explain-away the fact that you're this blogs whipping-boy. Huh Chad? How do you do it? Or, perhaps you just sit on the edge of your bed and rock back-and-forth.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Chad

      I didnt think you had any (examples) 😉

      May 25, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad –

      Again, examples are not needed – the body off your "works" suffices. Dishonest asshat.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad –
      Take your shot of insulin and drink some sweet-tea...we wouldn't want your skills of deception (transparent as they are) to fail you. Ya countrified rube ya.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • ME II

      @Chad,

      "do you have a specific example of 'dishonesty'?"

      from another thread: (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/14/televangelists-son-preaches-tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1303839)

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      ME II
      @Chad,
      Whether you are "personally" "convinced" or not, is irrelevant...

      As I said before, this becomes tedious. I will only point out that, if you don't see the obvious differences between:

      "non-Theists... are not making the claim, 'God doesn't exist'. ”
      and
      "atheist makes no claims at all”

      Then not only do you not understanding the concept of quotation, but you don't even understand the difference between singular, "the claim," and plural, "no claims at all". This goes a long way toward understanding why honest debate with you is so difficult and frustrating.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |

      Chad

      ...

      @ME II "Then not only do you not understanding the concept of quotation, but you don't even understand the difference between singular, "the claim," and plural, "no claims at all". This goes a long way toward understanding why honest debate with you is so difficult and frustrating."
      @Chad "ok, fine, what claims DO atheists make?"
      May 22, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |

      May 25, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @ME II –

      Of course your post is logical, well constructed, and cogent – you're obviously very bright; however, YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME! ... (sorry for the yelling) ... Chad really, really, really has no intention of engaging in honest discourse...believe me, I've tried, and in retrospect I curse myself for each attempt. You're far too intelligent and knowledgeable to waste any time on Chad when there are others posting on this blog upon whom your words won't be wasted.

      Cheers.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
    • Chad

      ME II .....

      =>oh, you bad boy you !!!
      you left some stuff out didnt you.. 😉

      =========================
      @ME II "You are certain of the authorship of the gospels?"
      @Chad "@chad “I am personally I’m convinced on all of them except Mark."
      @ME II "Whether you are "personally" "convinced" or not, is irrelevant...
      @Chad "well, I thought that is what you asked, but ok. What is your point then?

      ================
      @ME II "Then not only do you not understanding the concept of quotation, but you don't even understand the difference between singular, "the claim," and plural, "no claims at all". This goes a long way toward understanding why honest debate with you is so difficult and frustrating."
      @Chad "ok, fine, what claims DO atheists make?"

      That entire thread is full of you saying:
      @ME II "Most non-Theists (including Agnostics, but not strong Atheists), I think, hold the position of not accepting belief in the supernatural. This is not a position, but a lack of position in that they are not making the claim, "God doesn't exist". They are just saying I don't believe the Theist's claims."

      So, once and for all, are you making a claim about the existence of the God of Abraham or not?

      cue silence..

      May 25, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
    • O Snap

      Lol Chad gets owned from one side of the internet to the other, over and over again.
      Is he just doing a great impersonation of an extremely stupid person, or is he REALLY this stupid, is my question!

      May 25, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @ME II –

      You see that, right? The way Chad redefines and mis-characterizes your discussion in the last sentence of his post ("So, once and for all, are you making a claim about the existence of the God of Abraham or not?"). That is why I assert he is the most dishonest piece-o'-sheit on this blog. FU Chad...you inbred, ignorant, bible-thumpin' moron.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @O Snap –

      And the astonishing thing is he never learns. Even a dog learns to avoid the person that kicks him. Chad...you're an asshat.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:11 pm |
    • Really-O?

      Really-O?
      @O Snap –

      Hey Snap...want to have some real fun? Ask Chad how punctuated equilibria and the "empty tomb" are evidence that god exists. Priceless! Crank-up the organ, put a penny in his hand, and watch the monkey dance!

      May 25, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad – regarding "cue silence"

      Where's your voice now beatch? And, by the way, it's "queue", not "cue", you ignorant tool.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • Chad

      @Really-O? " – regarding "cue silence" ... it's "queue", not "cue", you ignorant tool."

      =>no..
      Cue, as a noun, is a signal to begin. In the context of a stage play, for example, one actor’s cue to begin his soliloquy is when the spotlight is cast on him. Similarly, to cue (as a verb) refers to the act of providing this signal to begin. To cue is to prompt. When you tell someone to “cue the music,” you are telling them to “start the music now.”
      ["cue silence" means "start the silence now"]

      Queue, as a noun, refers to a lineup. This usually implies a group of people waiting in line, as would be the case at the cash register at a supermarket. However, it can also refer to things other than people. For example, comments on this blog can sometimes be held in the moderation queue, waiting for approval. A queue is a line handled on a first come, first served basis.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Really-O?

      ...regarding "queue", not "cue". I'm incorrect. But Chad is still an ignorant, dishonest asshat.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad –
      Ah...you caught that before I could self-correct. See how that works Chad? That's what HONEST people do...they remain open to the idea that they might be wrong and have no problem admitting when they are. That's not how your dogma works, is it Chad?

      May 25, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • mandarax

      He is indeed. I recommend not responding to Chad as a rule.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Chad –

      ...and you f'ing one-string-banjo...copy & paste?...COPY & PASTE? As you've been asked many times before on this blog...Do you have any thoughts of your own? Asshat.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @mandarax –

      If you joined a club and 95% of the members constantly pointed out to you how ignorant, inept, and undesirable you were, would you remain a member? Would you engage in self-reflection? I know I would. I'm sure you would. Why do you suppose it is that Chad won't? My guess...dogma, stupidity or a combination.

      May 25, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @mandarax –

      Sorry, my response was less than precise; however, I'm sure you got the gist.

      May 25, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
    • Observer

      What a bunch of pathetic losers these atheists are, in the face of defeat continuing to argue with Chad like juveniles with the brain development of a 5 yr old. Probably 5 yrs olds are smarter than these dumbos ;(

      Chad-you sure have patience!

      May 25, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Observer-

      Hmm...I've seen a number of your other posts and I'm not sure you're doing Chad any favors by supporting him. I'm just saying.

      May 25, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Cq

      Chad
      Sorry, but I still stand by my statement. Each denomination sets itself somewhere on the scale as to how much of the OT Law it feels applies to them. Liberal churches to moderate; not so much. Moderate to conservative; a lot more. You usually don't hear many liberal Christians toting OT scripture to support their beliefs, right? If conservatives truly feel that the old covenant doesn't apply to them why spend so much time sermonizing from the OT? Apart from the passages that Christians think refer to Jesus' coming, are they simply telling these stories for their entertainment value?

      May 26, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • Chad

      as I said before...

      "If you are referring to whether or not certain aspects of the old covenant (such as the 10 commandments) are still in effect now under the new covenant, that is a different issue which is certainly in the "finer theological points" category which distinguishes Christian denominations.

      And which of course bears not on my original assertion that I have yet to meet more than 1 or 2 atheists that have a basic understanding of the bible."

      May 26, 2012 at 12:24 am |
    • ME II

      @Chad,

      "=>oh, you bad boy you !!!
      you left some stuff out didnt you.. ;-)"

      Snarky comments aside, yes, I did. I think that is the purpose of ellipses (...) and as I said within that text, being personally convinced is irrelevant. It was then and it is now.

      "So, once and for all, are you making a claim about the existence of the God of Abraham or not?"

      Did you see a claim? (Not in your "interpretation" of what I said, but in what I actually said.)

      Despite your attempts to shift the burden of proof, as I have gone over before, no, I don't think I did make a claim.

      May 27, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    May 25, 2012 at 11:14 am |
  20. Topher

    Wow. If that video clip is a good demonstration of how this show is going to be, I have to say it's blasphemy! The Bible is not to be joked about and made fun of! "Who knew the Bible could be so much fun?" Nice, CNN.

    May 25, 2012 at 11:10 am |
    • sally

      Why is it not to be made fun of? What if I believe the bible is a joke?

      May 25, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • Topher

      Then you should at least have respect enough for others who hold it as holy.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • sally

      Why?

      May 25, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • sally

      Because YOU think I should? Because god will strike me down? Waiting for a very good reason.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Topher

      No. Just because it would be a nice thing to do.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • sally

      Lol! It would also be nice for you not to try to demand that I treat a book that I don't think is holy, with the same reverence that you do.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Topher

      I didn't say that. I just ask you don't make fun of it.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Mass Debater

      "I didn't say that. I just ask you don't make fun of it."

      All right Topher, I won't draw any more cartoon pictures of Muhammed...

      May 25, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Topher

      That's probably the smart thing to do.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      I'll stop making fun of your religion when people of your religion stop telling me that I'm going to go to a ficti.tious heII.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • Topher

      So our warnings out of love for you are met with making fun of us? That's not very mature.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      "Warnings" about make believe things are useless. It is the threats that xtians make that I'm talking about. Like xtians that want to kiII gay people because that is what their bible tells them to do.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      Keep your biblical laws and "warnings" to yourself, we don't give a fvck what your book of fairytales or your magic sky daddy says we or you should do with your life.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Topher

      I'm a Christian and would never kill anyone or want them to be killed. If I were to kill someone just because I don't like something they did, they'd never have the opportunity to repent and trust in the Savior and thus get to go to Heaven. Killing is not a Christian thing at all.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Topher

      Wrath ... I know you don't. That's WHY I'm warning you.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Topher,

      Your god COMMANDS you to kiII gays and children that are unruly as well as women who aren't virgins on their wedding night. You don’t want to get your sky daddy mad at you do you?

      May 25, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      How bout you "warn" your friends and family. Us strangers know the truth. No god, no devil, no heaven, no hell. No proof.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care
      "Your god COMMANDS you to kiII gays and children that are unruly as well as women who aren't virgins on their wedding night. You don’t want to get your sky daddy mad at you do you?"

      He commands nothing of the sort. That would be murder.

      May 25, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Topher

      Wrath of Zeus
      "How bout you "warn" your friends and family. Us strangers know the truth. No god, no devil, no heaven, no hell. No proof."

      Oh, I do.

      So you have all knowledge of the universe? Cause you have to to say you know for sure there's no God.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • Wrath of Zeus

      I don't have to do sh•t dude. I don't live by your morals. No one has all the knowledge of the universe. However most of it can be explained by math, science and physics.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    • wayne317

      You don't have to know everything not to believe in the God of the bible or supernatural magic.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Topher

      Wrath ... You don't have any morals?

      Wayne ... I know you don't have to have all knowledge not to believe. But when you make a definitive statement, you need either proof or all knowledge. Otherwise it's just an opinion. If we, in all our knowledge, know, let's say, 1 percent of all knowledge (which I think might be generous) then you have to admit, even if you're not a believer, that somewhere in that 99 percent there might not only be evidence of a god, but God Himself.

      May 25, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • sam

      Topher, you're trying too hard. First, by how edgy you are to go by 'Topher'.

      May 25, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • Topher

      sam

      I'm not trying to be edgy. That's my nickname, given to me by a co-worker who didn't like the shorter version "Chris"

      May 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • wayne317

      "If we, in all our knowledge, know, let's say, 1 percent of all knowledge (which I think might be generous) then you have to admit, even if you're not a believer, that somewhere in that 99 percent there might not only be evidence of a god, but God Himself."

      This sounds impressive until you apply to to something else.

      "If we, in all our knowledge, know, let's say, 1 percent of all knowledge (which I think might be generous) then you have to admit, even if you're not a believer, that somewhere in that 99 percent there might not only be evidence of a tooth fairy, but the tooth fairy herself."

      Should we really not say for sure there is no tooth fairy? I know it's hard for you to see that i see your god and the tooth fairy as equally imaginary, but that's what it is.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • Topher

      There's no evidence there's a real tooth fairy. I think there's plenty that says there's really a God. Even secular writers from Christ's time admitted that Christ existed. You can go on thinking He's imaginary if you want to, but my hands will be free of your blood come Judgment Day.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      If you are going to quote Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, or Josephus save your breath. Neither of those were contemporaries and therefor hearsay. Not reliable evidence at all.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • wayne317

      "There's no evidence there's a real tooth fairy. I think there's plenty that says there's really a God. Even secular writers from Christ's time admitted that Christ existed. You can go on thinking He's imaginary if you want to, but my hands will be free of your blood come Judgment Day"

      What secular writers? Even if christ existed that does not show that he was also the creator of the universe. The concept of a being that's able to create a universe then come to earth in a human costume and stage his own death just makes no sense at all.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      "contemporaries"?
      Who ever said contemporaries even told the truth HBDC?

      May 25, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Topher

      "Just how many non-Christian sources are there that mention Jesus? Including Josephus, there are ten known non-Christian writers who mention Jesus within 150 years of his life. By contrast, over the same 150 years, there are nine non-Christian sources who mention Tiberius Caesar, the Roman emperor at the time of Jesus. So discounting all the Christian sources, Jesus is actually mentioned by one more source than the Roman emperor. If you include the Christian sources, authors mentioningJesus outnumber those mentioning Tiberius 43 to 10!"

      - "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist" by Norman L. Geisler and Frank Turek

      May 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Topher

      "Even if christ existed that does not show that he was also the creator of the universe. The concept of a being that's able to create a universe then come to earth in a human costume and stage his own death just makes no sense at all."

      True, that doesn't prove He was God. But He sure made that claim.

      What doesn't make sense about it. IF there's a God, then He'd sure have the power to not only create the universe but to come down and visit it.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • wayne317

      "True, that doesn't prove He was God. But He sure made that claim."

      Not to my satisfaction.

      "What doesn't make sense about it. IF there's a God, then He'd sure have the power to not only create the universe but to come down and visit it."

      And that's what happend huh? He just waited almost 14 billion years after he created the universe. While looking over the universe with his magnifying glass, he saw a pale blue dot with some intelligent apes on it and decided that he'd send himself to this planet and stage his death then punish the apes if they choose not to bellieve in his story?

      Here is a scale of the universe
      http://scaleofuniverse.com/

      We are nowhere near as important as you would like to believe. No reason to think a God created all that but only cares about an almost invisble portion of it and only the human ape species on it. You are silly.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
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