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May 25th, 2012
11:01 AM ET

Foxworthy hosts 'Biblical' new game show

(CNN)– Comedian Jeff Foxworthy will host "American Bible Challenge," a new show premiering this summer on GSN.  CNN's Carol Costello reports.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bible • TV

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  1. Religion is not healthy for a boy's ass and other living things

    A priest in a prison cell changes things.

    May 28, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
  2. At death atheists believe

    The bible was never meant to be proven..atheists know nothing about faith.Its a lie that atheists know more then Christians about Christianity

    May 27, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  3. Worship Poseidon

    I think satan is the best! Hands down a much better guy than Jesus.

    May 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things

    May 27, 2012 at 7:02 am |
    • Worship Poseidon

      I want to like your butthole.

      May 27, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • bringoutyourdead

      Demon exposes itself with filth.

      May 27, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      May 29, 2012 at 11:15 am |
  5. PRISM 1234

    These people are pathetic! What else will they resort to?
    The other day I saw a church sign that said:
    "Why cut coupons? Jesus saves".
    And to think that so many of church going Christians participate and endorse beggarly tactics like those, thinking they'll attract the world to Christianity, it's only the reflection in what shape American Christianity of today is! It never crosses their minds that they are sinning against the 2nd of 10 Commandments. That's the reason my family and I do not go to church. It is as the God they and I worship is not the same... I find very little in common with people who see God the way those people do!

    May 27, 2012 at 12:04 am |
  6. Christopher

    I am calling it now...this show is going to TANK

    May 26, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  7. AGuest9

    Oh, good. The in-breds will have something other than Pawn Stars and Dukes of Hazzard re-runs to watch.

    May 26, 2012 at 9:30 am |
  8. Reality

    Putting the bible into proper 21st century perspective- Part I

    ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF THIS BLOG:

    1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    “New Torah For Modern Minds

    Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

    prob•a•bly
    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

    May 26, 2012 at 8:20 am |
    • Reality

      Part II

      2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

      earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of NT/Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:
      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      May 26, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • Pon

      Dear Reality, you are the biggest LIAR I have ever read here in this forum. NONE of your statements can be backed by any scientific or archaeological evidence! In fact, there are tons of actual archaeological discoveries and evidence that ALL the things you deny here actually DID happen the way the Bible says. Please stop blatantly lying to people, and lie to yourself if you must! The TRUTH is there for anyone who knows how to use Google.

      May 27, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Reality

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/Disease:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
      http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

      The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

      Of course, we all know that angels are really mythical "pretty wingie talking thingies".

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      o An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
      o
      p.4
      o "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      o p.168. by Ted Peters:
      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      o So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      May 27, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
  9. Laurence Ringo

    Wow.The hatred,the vitriol,the sheer animus spewed and displayed by the atheists on this site never fails to both astound,and ultimately sadden me.It's like an Internet version of Pavlov's dogs;any mention of God,faith,religious beliefs,etc,triggers a veritable frenzy of salivating venom.The thing I've noticed is that execpt for a few misguided souls who should know better,the religious bloogers rarely respond in kind,even when the God haters think they have bested them.Frankly,that says a lot more about the atheists'character than perhaps they realize.As for the individual on this site who claimed that being an educated Christian is an oxymoron,that type of willful ignorance is simply inexcusable;any reasonably informed person knows that the Christian faith has produced some of the most brilliant scholars in history;further,most contemporary Christian theologians,philosophers,scholars,and ministers possess degrees(sometimes multiple doctorates)from fully accredited,world-reknown colleges and universities(Princeton,anyone?Oxford?)So...your opprobium has no basis in reality-God bless/Jesus is Lord!!!

    May 26, 2012 at 12:34 am |
    • Newsflash

      You are projecting.

      May 26, 2012 at 2:52 am |
    • AGuest9

      But, it seems to be just fine to post ancient fictional nonsense as "proof" of anything on science blogs?

      May 26, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • Cq

      Oh, I think the number of swearing people claiming to be atheists are about the same as the number of people claiming to be Christian rejoicing at the thought of all non-believers burning for eternity. I actually think that it's quite likely that a few of them are actually the same person, acting out straw man versions of both sides just to be mischievous. It wouldn't surprise me.

      May 26, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Michael

      @Laurence Ringo, yes, the animus, hatred and vitriol is quite sickening here. I don't like it either.

      I will admit, a lot of it does come from people professing to be atheists – but not all. I can't give you hard data, but there's an awful lot of people who profess to follow Jesus' message to turn the other cheek, yet deliver the hate, aminus and vitriol in equal measure.

      I would not characterize postings from these people who, as you say should know better, as rare.

      May 26, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      "I think the number of swearing people claiming to be atheists are about the same as the number of people claiming to be Christian rejoicing at the thought of all non-believers burning for eternity"
      Why do you think that Christians who tell you about your need for Christ , without whom you'll be lost for eternity, are rejoicing at your eternity in Hell? Seems to me that if you could reason, you could figure out that they are trying to keep you out of that place of the damned reserved for satan and his angels...
      God never intended human souls to end up there.
      So, why do you argue that those of us who warn you to keep you out of it, that we are hateful and that we judge you?
      You know that you'll die and you'll face your Maker. Does it matter to you what happens After you leave your earthly frame, or have you bitten the bait the enemy of your soul allured you with, hook, line and sinker?!

      May 27, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • Jamie

      Hi, atheist here. No hatred for anyone. See? Most of us are normal, friendly people. Unfortunately, as with other groups, it's the nasty few that are the loudest.

      May 28, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
  10. us

    just a sample – proof – The Dead Sea Scrolls – the Tel Dan Stela – the ninth century BC inscription, the first historical evidence of King David

    May 25, 2012 at 8:34 pm |
    • mandarax

      The Tel Dan stela is disputable, but it might be real and it might refer to the same David mentioned in the bible. But that proves the entire Christian story to the same extent that the city of Troy proves every detail of Homer's Odyssey, or that the existence of Tokyo proves the validity of Godzilla.

      May 25, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
    • Cq

      Ah, that would be evidence of the House of David, not David himself, and his "kingdom" was greatly scaled down. That's the earliest possible evidence for anything in the Bible which still leaves Abraham, Moses, Noah, Adam and Eve, and everything else before this period unsupported, so don't get too excited.

      May 26, 2012 at 12:34 am |
    • Hitchens

      @cq
      Machpelah
      Kedorlaomer
      Sodom

      May 27, 2012 at 7:30 am |
  11. mandarax

    @Trivia "they have yet to be able to point to any historical figure and say, "that person created the concept of God and I can prove it with scientific data".

    That's pretty much true, but that's also true for most anything that happened before writing – archaeology rarely identifies individuals. Also no one knows the historical figure who invented the wheel, houses, agriculture, sandals, the fork, language, or writing itself for that matter. These things are probably concepts that evolved among populations, not individuals. The magical thinking of attributing unexplained phenomena to "gods" almost certainly precedes any of these things.

    As a matter of fact, the technological progress of humans is primarily a record of relying less and less upon magic (gods) as an explanation, and more and more upon observable phenomena and rational principles. As legitimate knowledge grows, gods become more abstract, more hidden, and more relegated to the gaps in what is understood.

    In the early days, gods lived on the mountaintops or in the sea, until we explored them. Then gods were placed just above us in the sky, until we explored the sky. Then god was placed safely out in space, until we started exploring space. Now the believers insist he resides outside of the universe, beyond space and time. Funny how they have to keep moving him to explain the fact that he is never there.

    May 25, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • Chad

      While the experiments carried out by Stanley Miller and others who have built upon his work show that life may have arisen from a primordial soup, that possibility remains theoretical. There is no evidence for pre-cellular life on Earth; what's more, critics of the RNA world hypothesis point out that the experiments that support the concepts were conducted with biologically created RNA. RNA can act as both a template for self-replication and an enzyme for carrying out that process, but these findings have been carried out in controlled laboratory experiments. This doesn't necessarily prove such delicate actions could happen in the seas of the ancient Earth.
      For reasons like these, the RNA world hypothesis has been largely abandoned by proponents of abiogenesis in favor of other hypotheses, like the simultaneous development of both proteins and genetic templates or the development of life around undersea vents similar to those currently inhabited by today's extremophiles. But there is one criticism that any abiogenesis hypothesis has difficulty overcoming: time. DNA-based life is thought to have developed on Earth beginning around 3.8 billion years ago, giving pre-cellular life forms about 1 billion years to carry out random processes of encoding useful proteins and assembling them into the precursors of cellular life . Critics of abiogenesis say that simply isn't enough time for inorganic matter to become the theorized precellular life. One estimate suggests it would take 10^450 (10 to the 450th power) years for one useful protein to be randomly created .

      May 26, 2012 at 12:11 am |
    • Chad

      It is difficult enough to imagine a time, roughly 13.7 billion years ago, when the entire universe existed as a singularity. According to the big bang theory, one of the main contenders vying to explain how the universe came to be, all the matter in the cosmos - all of space itself - existed in a form smaller than a subatomic particle.
      Once you think about that, an even more difficult question arises: What existed just before the big bang occurred?
      The question itself predates modern cosmology by at least 1,600 years. Fourth-century theologian St. Augustine wrestled with the nature of God before the creation of the universe. His answer? Time was part of God's creation, and there simply was no "before" that a deity could call home.
      Armed with the best physics of the 20th century, Albert Einstein came to very similar conclusions with his theory of relativity. Just consider the effect of mass on time. A planet's hefty mass warps time - making time run a tiny bit slower for a human on Earth's surface than a satellite in orbit. The difference is too small to notice, but time even runs more slowly for someone standing next to a large boulder than it does for a person standing alone in a field. The pre-big bang singularity possessed all the mass in the universe, effectively bringing time to a standstill.

      May 26, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • Chad

      both of the above from http://science.howstuffworks.com

      May 26, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • preacherman

      @Mandarax, Chad is well-known troll and liar. I recommend that you don't respond to him at all.

      May 26, 2012 at 12:24 am |
    • AGuest9

      ROFLMAO! howstuffworks.com!!! Oh, my sides hurt!

      May 26, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • Cq

      Chad
      Do you consider howstuffworks.com a reliable source of information? I remember reading about the origins of life on this planet in their explanation about what evolution is. That's a common creationist misconnection, right?

      May 26, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • Chad

      @Cq "Do you consider howstuffworks.com a reliable source of information?"
      @Chad "do you consider it unreliable? If so why?
      another article with the same conclusion: http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/02/the_origin_of_life_not_so_simp_2003194.html

      ==============
      @Cq "I remember reading about the origins of life on this planet in their explanation about what evolution is. That's a common creationist misconnection, right?"
      @Chad "What is the common creationist misconception? I'm not following you..

      May 26, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Chad

      Probability calculations could be made, but I prefer a variation on a much-used analogy. Picture a gorilla (very long arms are needed) at an immense keyboard connected to a word processor. The keyboard contains not only the symbols used in English and European languages but also a huge excess drawn from every other known language and all of the symbol sets stored in a typical computer. The chances for the spontaneous assembly of a replicator in the pool I described above can be compared to those of the gorilla composing, in English, a coherent recipe for the preparation of chili con carne. With similar considerations in mind Gerald F. Joyce of the Scripps Research Institute and Leslie Orgel of the Salk Institute concluded that the spontaneous appearance of RNA chains on the lifeless Earth "would have been a near miracle." I would extend this conclusion to all of the proposed RNA substitutes that I mentioned above.
      (Robert Shapiro, "A Simpler Origin for Life," Scientific American, February 12, 2007)

      May 26, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  12. Hypatia

    In Latin, Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew or Elizabethan English?

    May 25, 2012 at 6:53 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      ?

      May 25, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • sam

      So much bible trivia to choose from!!

      May 25, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
  13. US

    Just like Old Times

    May 25, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
  14. Sam Yaza

    oh I'll play which one of this is not in the bible

    1.) kill your son
    2.) own a slave
    3.) r@p3 a b!tch
    4.)Clean your @ss.

    they should let me play

    i will do it for the VOC Foundation (victims of Christ) we prevent the degradation and persecution of indigenous cultures
    another words protect pagans from you evil f2ck3rs

    May 25, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      what no takers on the quiz... let me help you there all kind-of paraphrased

      May 25, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Wow..you are a jack@ss.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:38 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      i know i am Hecate, chill out that what makes me the great rebel that i am

      May 25, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Most good rebels have a reason. Except James Dean maybe.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Trivia: god of where three roads meet

      Hark! I am called. My little spirit, see,
      Sits in a foggy cloud and stays for me.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    May 25, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • Troll's are not healthy for children and other living things

      ...

      May 25, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • just sayin

      Truth is never trolling. God bless

      May 25, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • just sayin

      I know that because I hear a lot of truth from my pants, when I can find them. God bless.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      You've been told, Helen Waite has your pants , go get them.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • Jesus

      ~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      May 29, 2012 at 11:16 am |
  16. Mr Chihuahua

    If your name is Jeff Foxworthy............you just might be a sh!tty comedian lol!

    May 25, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  17. Nii

    JEFF
    Take the guy who uses JEBUS... He thinks he is laughing at Christ. However Jebus is the Ancient name of Jerusalem and christ as High Priest of the ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK can claim it as one of His ti.tles. A little like Ballaam's attempted cursing of Israel.

    May 25, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • sam

      How many points will MELCHIZEDEK get you in Scrabble?

      May 25, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • ME II

      "He thinks he is laughing at Christ."
      I think he's laughing at Christians, not Christ, per se.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      and christian comes from the Greek word cretin

      May 25, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
  18. Honey Badger Dont Care

    All of you Non Airborne Personnel and legs out there have a sucky weekend.

    To all of you Airborne brothers out there, have a safe and happy weekend and drink till you drop.

    May 25, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Jeff

      I was not going to comment to you Honey Badger as I didn't think we had much in common, but you're Airborne? Where at? I was 3/505 PIR back in the early 90s.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Division Headquarters. I retired 2 years ago.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • Jeff

      Thank you for your service...it takes a unique individual to be Airborne. There's certainly not many of us!

      Have a great weekend

      May 25, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • US

      1st AGLICO

      May 25, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
  19. Jebus

    I can NOT wait for this show to start! With all the contradictions in the bible and the perception of American favoritism towards a single religion...so much opportunity to see xtian shame, absurdities, and chaos!!!

    I need popcorn.

    May 25, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Cq

      I give it half a season before it's forced off the air, unless they're real general with the questions.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Well, when you will have to count just about every answer that someone gives due to their "interpretation" of the bible then all answer are right.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • Jebus

      Where's my DVR remote? Oh man. Oh man. Oh man. Almost like watching NFL Playoffs; however, no teams win except the onlookers that stayed out of the game (e.g., non-stamp collectors).

      May 25, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      I hope the first question they ask is "In the bible, who is God?"

      "Is that a capital "G" or a lower case "g" Jeff?"
      "Capital."
      "YHWH!!
      "Jehovah!"
      "Jesus!"
      "Elohim!"
      "The Father the Son & the Holy Spirit!"

      "Sure, why not we'll just give everyone 10 points..."

      May 25, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      You forgot Jealous.

      Exodus 34:14

      —for you shall not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous

      May 27, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      @Honey Badger,

      Thanks for the reference!

      Exodus: 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
      The name is also very befitting as Jealous is a jealous god!
      Yep, that falls in modern christian family values all right.

      May 28, 2012 at 8:53 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      @elmer
      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      May 28, 2012 at 8:55 am |
  20. thecollegeadmissionsguru

    I am saddened that intelligent men continue to fall prey to the nonsense of religion.

    May 25, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • Jebus

      I am with you. Religion has had its grasp for so long and has spent that time perfecting its ability to con people and take attack defenseless children that it will take much time and effort for it to be undone.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • Jeff

      Religion is nonsense, I agree...but God is not. If Christians were more interested in preaching love as opposed to intolerance, I think many would not have the negative impression of religion as a whole.

      As a Christian, I think my job is simply to extend Christ's love and desire for a relationship with everyone. What you choose to do with that is between you and God.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • Cq

      Jeff
      God is part of religion, right?

      May 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • Jebus

      @ Jeff – Please try very hard to explain how your statements make sense. Don't pop a vain though. I want you alive so you can eat your words later in wonderous pain.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Jeff, If there is a devil, decieving Christians into behaving in a way that drives people away from Christ would be an excellent plan.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Jeff

      @Cq...that's a slippery slope. Of course, God would be a part of religion...but religion in a true form. One thing proven over time is the constant corruption of man...which would of course include religious man. Religion today is...in large part...made up of corrupted individuals twisting their views on a congregation too lazy to do the work themselves.

      For me, I consider myself to be an educated Christian. The Bible is tricky to follow...some parables, some factual accounts, but all good for teaching and rebuking. Not for hate and intolerance.

      Side Note - Please don't quote Old Testament rhetoric here...Jesus made the laws in the Old Testament obsolete.

      Through the Bible, I feel like I have an answer to the same questions that science has today. I am not offended that there are those that believe those answers will be explained scientifically. I am offended when people lump me in with religious zealots though.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      And if there is a god that allows someone like the devil to do what he does on Earth, like what he did to Job on a BET. That god isnt worth worshiping at all.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      @ Jeff,

      "educated christian"? Please no more oxymorons.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Cq

      lunchbreaker
      Getting them to deny such obvious things as evolution and the naturalness of being gay would also fit his role as the "Prince of Lies." Such things are already discrediting all of Christianity, making it decline. Maybe the Christian Right was his idea? Makes a certain sense.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • Jebus

      @ Jeff – Any chance you know what science is? It's not found in a holy text written by desert sheep. You are as much a zealot as the next xtian. You just don't know it. You also sound like a deist with a bent for Jesus.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • J.W

      A lot of stupid atheists on this thread.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    • Jeff

      @lunch and Cq...yes, I suppose Satan in that regard would make a ton of sense!

      @Cq...to the evolution point, what interests me the most is not that evolution occurred, but rather, how? Darwin had a good idea, but his findings are inconclusive at this point. I would very much like to see today's scientists really expound on his theory and fill in the gaps.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • Confused

      Personally I think Jeff's message is just a fine one to a point. It's all most of us ask for of christians, a simple respect that I don't agree with their views and they don't with mine but we wish each other well. If christians followed their christ and loved everyone as they were supposed to, wouldn't that make the world a better place?

      Don't get me wrong, I am in no way advocating for christianity, and as we've clearly seen time and time again, christians have abused their theology to a point where they can rationalize mass murder, but I would rather not give up a chance to have a christian ally who preaches the same thing as me (a.k.a. love everyone and respect everyone for their own beliefs) then I don't need them to become an atheist. They'll do that on their own time anyways.

      May 25, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Jeff, please do some reading. There is OVERWHELMING evidence on how evolution works. You just need to think of small changes over MILLIONS of years.

      Please do a google search for "ring speication" and you'll see how it can happen in much shorter time spans as well. Just keep in mind that the term species and "kind" are not the same. Nobody that studies evolution will EVER use the word "kind".

      May 25, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Nii

      JEFF
      Ur spiritual view of de Bible is mostly unwelcome by de Atheists here cos they don't know de difference b/n religion n spirituality. They if they were xtians were religious or at most pious but not spiritual xtians. They don't understand that spiritual people arent attached to religion.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
    • Jeff

      @Confused...thank you...I really believe that too many times God been thrust in the middle of man's issue for man's justification. Not the right answer at all!

      Love, live, and let live. We can talk...you with your views, me with mine, but are we so different? We all want a world where our children can grow up and flourish.

      ...and I don't need you to be a Christian...God will reach you over time anyways...lol!

      May 25, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • Confused

      @Jeff

      Indeed, until you come to your senses I can live with the fact that as long as you think that it is my right to get married to another man, or have an abortion, or whatever and you know that I have no problem if you don't want to get married to another guy or so on, then we're good.

      What I think a lot of these atheists on this thread are trying to show you is that there are things outside of religion that are still beautiful, like evolution for instance, and you don't need god inserted there for it to make sense.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • Jeff

      @Honey Badger...I should have prefaced my comments better. Evolution has a great deal of merit, but there are gaps that I would like to see science answer. The evolutionary "boom" that was the Cretaceous Period for example...where did all those fossils come from? I'd like to see that connected. It was a bunch of nothing, then BOOM, everything! I'd like a clearer understanding of that.

      I don't need to turn this into an evolution conversation, but I do have questions. I'll Google what you suggested when I have some time to really read though the results.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • Jeff

      @Confused...fair enough...

      May 25, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • Cq

      Jeff
      Fortunately, evolutionary science has gone a long way since Darwin, just as physics has done since Newton. If all you read was Origin then I can see where you would feel the science is lacking.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • Cq

      Jeff
      Didn't Jesus also say that he came to fulfill the OT law, the "not one iota" quote?

      May 25, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Cq – "not one iota"

      Stop muddying the waters with facts, would ya?

      May 25, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • Wayne

      Jeff is another liar for jesus

      'The evolutionary "boom" that was the Cretaceous Period for example...where did all those fossils come from? I'd like to see that connected. It was a bunch of nothing, then BOOM, everything! I'd like a clearer understanding of that."

      Even if an answer was given, he'd just move the goal post somewhere else and ignore the answer. His answer for the cretaceous (or do you mean Cambrian) is of course God waved his magic wand and all the animals appeared fully formed instantly without ancestors.

      May 25, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Jeff

      Cq...there are a lot of things I've read since Origin, but it seems to only open up more questions. I get what you're saying and I will continue to read...finding the time is always the key!

      Wayne...ok. I feel like I've been respectful on here, but feel free to blast me at your leisure. Not once have I mocked an opinion or said something in negativity on here. My apologies for using the incorrect word...I was referencing the Cambrian Period of course. I did not once claim that a wand was waved...in fact, I said that evolution has a lot of merit. I obviously don't understand it to the depths that you do, so please feel free to mock me as you see fit.

      Confused...see...this is the kind of thing that drives the wedge between believers and non-believers. Those of us interested in engaging in thoughtful conversation get drown out by the Internet tough guys. Sad to say, but it is of course predictable.

      Have a great weekend everyone.

      May 25, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
    • Leo

      Jeff, Nice of you to reack out to the hopeless and the lost, but be strong for you will see Matthew 7:6 revealed before your very eyes with most of the people here. Keep fighting the Good Fight!!

      May 25, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • Wrath of Crom

      Any who denies evolution is a lying to themselves. Its been proven millions of times over. More than anyone can say for the existence of any god let alone a Christian one. We are more likely to be voted by extraterrestrial life than to find or be shown a concert proof of gawd. Pull your heads out religious peeps. Your only denying the truth.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
    • Wayne

      Yes Jeff i will mock you do you know why? Because you asked a question on the internet. It took me just a few seconds to look up the Cambrian.
      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/4/l_034_02.html

      "For most of the nearly 4 billion years that life has existed on Earth, evolution produced little beyond bacteria, plankton, and multi-celled algae. But beginning about 600 million years ago in the Precambrian, the fossil record speaks of more rapid change. First, there was the rise and fall of mysterious creatures of the Ediacaran fauna, named for the fossil site in Australia where they were first discovered. Some of these animals may have belonged to groups that survive today, but others don't seem at all related to animals we know."

      Why are you so damn lazy that you can't look that up yourself?

      May 25, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
    • Scott

      @Jeff: Please don't quote Old Testament rhetoric here...Jesus made the laws in the Old Testament obsolete.

      Your just another little snotty nose little Christian trying to weasel your way out of responsibility for the old testament. What Christ sad was “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."Matthew 5:17-19. You’re stuck with it until his second coming.

      May 25, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • Cq

      Jeff
      I'm reading Dawkins' Greatest Show on Earth right now and it seems pretty good, but I understand what you mean. There is just so much evidence for evolution that it's easy to get bogged down. I doubt that even Dawkins has examined most of it, and it is often quite technical, so you can be excused for not getting it all. I don't, but I get enough to know that they've made their case beyond any shadow of a doubt. All the evidence supports evolution. You have to discount all of the evidence to believe that evolution wasn't the process. That's a very difficult thing to do if you've actually examined it.

      May 26, 2012 at 11:29 am |
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