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May 25th, 2012
12:43 PM ET

Perkins on opposing same-sex marriage

(CNN)–Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Family Research Council, argues that children lose when gay marriage is legalized and that such unions represent the death knell of marriage.

Perkins  spoke with CNN's Brooke Baldwin.

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  1. Voig Nederlander

    Including gay couples in marriage doesn't redefine it, just like allowing women to vote didn't redefine voting and allowing blacks to own property didn't redefine real estate. This bigoted clown doesn't get it; there is no hiding his prejudice. Not behind semantics and most definitely not behind anything so widely disputed and filled with error as the bible. Can you imagine someone making the argument that Rosa Parks couldn't sit where she wanted on a bus because it actually changed the definition of bus? Idiocy.

    June 20, 2012 at 7:57 am |
  2. ElmerGantry

    Giving someone equal rights does not infringe or take away rights from you.
    It just makes it illegal to enforce your prejudice and hate.

    It really is just that simple!

    Hey GOP = Grandstanding Obstructionist Politicians, remember this,

    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!

    And this,

    That which you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me! [Jesus]

    And this,

    Judge not, that ye may not be judged

    How about not denying others equal rights and practice the Christian family value of treating others with dignity and respect for a change.

    May 29, 2012 at 7:32 am |
  3. Rundvelt

    Why do we listen to people who believe in fairy tales. I mean really, come on.

    May 28, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • sam stone

      Because they believe the same.

      We are still waiting for Evangelical to come up with these "special rights" he or she is claiming that gays are demanding. But he or she won't. Because, at the heart of it, he or she is a coward and just interested in blathering forth their bigotry hiding behind a bible.

      May 29, 2012 at 2:37 am |
    • Evangelical

      How about this for special rights. Ho-mos-exuals want protected class status under the const.itution. This means that I cannot fire them for being degenerate which I have done a couple of times. I can fire my straight employees for living in sin which I also have done. But given protected class status would mean that I would have to suffer and enable their sin.

      May 29, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "Ho-mos-exuals want protected class status under the const.itution. This means that I cannot fire them for being degenerate which I have done a couple of times. I can fire my straight employees for living in sin which I also have done. But given protected class status would mean that I would have to suffer and enable their sin."

      To fire someone over what you think is a sin represents you passing judgement on them like your god and that is condemned in your bible, what a hypocrite.

      May 29, 2012 at 6:24 pm |
    • Jen

      First they are your co-workers and now you are their boss? You work with a lot of gay people considering they make up a whole one percent of the population.

      Even funnier that you say you are the employer of anyone. You sure have a lot of free time to blog with all those people you are in charge of.

      May 29, 2012 at 6:24 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Jen,

      Where did I ever say anything about coworkers? Please show me. And I have been on this board a grand total of 4 days. It is because I run my own business that I have the free time to be on here which is very little, I assure you.

      May 29, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • sam stone

      Evangelical: You are a moron.

      May 30, 2012 at 5:29 am |
    • sam stone

      if someone fires fires a christian because of their religious beliefs, that is against the law. how is protecting from firing special rights, bigot?

      May 30, 2012 at 5:40 am |
    • sam stone

      1 "fires"

      May 30, 2012 at 5:40 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Evangelical: Here in Canada you would have been sued and taken before the Human Rights commission for firing someone based on their se.xual orientation. Your morals and judgement of these people are unethical and you should not be running a business of any form or ever be in a supervisory position. You do not have the right to judge anyone based on anything. People like you make me thankful I'm an Atheist and live in Canada. You truly define bigot!

      May 30, 2012 at 6:12 am |
    • sam stone

      evangelical:

      blacks are protected from being fired because they are black
      christians are protected from being fired because they are christian

      and that is okay,

      but

      gays want to be protected from being fired because they are gay and you get your panties all in a wad?

      you are a coward and a bigot.

      wander in front of a speeding bus, please

      May 30, 2012 at 7:04 am |
    • Jen

      You had said in an earlier post that you sabotaged a gay person that worked with you by not helping him on a project (to ensure he failed and to ensure he never came to you for help again). You sabotaged one of the projects at YOUR own company to see someone fail? Yeah....right.

      If you have your own business why don't you just not hire gay people? Since you think they are so disgusting I'm sure you can spot a get person just by looking at them right? Also, I'm positive that you're not allowed to fire someone that is living in sin (which any employer would know). That person could sue you for everything you own.

      You really are so full of it. You can't even keep track of your own lies.

      May 30, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • Jen

      'spot a GAY person' I meant

      May 30, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • sam stone

      jen: i bet evangelical's employees are known to use the phrase "you want fries with that?" often during the day

      May 30, 2012 at 10:42 am |
  4. R Bannon

    Im normally neutral in the gay marriage debate (or at least undecided), but I think Perkins, speaking of debate, "owned" the show moderator. His arguments made sense to me. Its one of the best conservative arguments I have heard on the gay marriage debate.

    May 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
  5. Reality

    Memorial Day, 2012

    ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF THIS BLOG

    "Abrahamics" like Perkins believe that their god created all of us and of course that includes the g-ay members of the human race. Also, those who have studied ho-mo-se-xuality have determined that there is no choice involved therefore ga-ys are ga-y because god made them that way.

    To wit:

    1. The Royal College of Psy-chiatrists stated in 2007:

    “ Despite almost a century of psy-choanalytic and psy-chological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heteros-exual or hom-ose-xual orientation. It would appear that s-exual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of ge-netic factors and the early ut-erine environment. Se-xual orientation is therefore not a choice.[60] "

    2. "Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab state in the abstract of their 2010 study, "The fe-tal brain develops during the intraut-erine periodin the male direction through a direct action of tes-tosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hor-mone surge. In this way, our gender identi-ty (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and s-exual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender ident–ity or s-exual orientation."[8

    3. See also the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”

    Of course, those gays who belong to Abrahamic religions are supposed to obey the rules of no adu-ltery or for-nication allowed.

    And because of basic biology differences said monogamous ventures should always be called same-s-ex unions not same-s-ex marriages.

    From below, on top, backwards, forwards, from this side of the Moon and from the other side too, gay se-xual activity is still mutual masturbation caused by one or more complex se-xual differences. Some differences are visually obvious in for example the complex maleness of DeGeneres, Billy Jean King and Rosie O'Donnell.

    Yes, heteros-exuals practice many of the same "moves" but there is never a doubt who is the female and who is the male.

    -=-=-=-=-----––

    May 28, 2012 at 8:05 am |
    • .....

      Do not waste time with reality it is all bull sh it

      May 28, 2012 at 8:51 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      @.....,

      A troll is as a troll does.
      What does a troll do when it has no viable, logical, or well reasoned reply comment?
      Answer, look at the reply of ..... for the answer.

      P.S.: Most unimaginative screen name ever!
      Is that all .....'s brain can muster?

      May 29, 2012 at 7:08 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      @Reality,
      Great post.

      I have a question. I seem to remember that environmental stress can raise thae birth rate of hömosëxuals and that in Germany during WWII there was a higher birth rate of gays? Is there any research that supports that or is that a myth?

      Thanks

      P.S.: Ignore the troll post.

      May 29, 2012 at 7:16 am |
  6. Roger Tharpe

    Wisdom cries out and warns us to follow our creator. Place feelings aside and look toward the climb and fall of nations and find the lowest common denominator. The center of its fall is always sin. Is this a coincidence? I think not. There is a correlation. Sin as well as righteousness cause rises in economy and prosperity, but sin alone causes falls. I have never seen the righteous forsaken or his seed begging bread.

    May 28, 2012 at 7:50 am |
    • Jen

      Strange then that Canada is far more prosperous than the US but has a far larger proportion of atheists and agnostics. Higher per capita income, better education, better healthcare, etc, etc.

      May 28, 2012 at 7:59 am |
      • Roger Tharpe

        By your comment I assume you have misunderstood what I have said. The rise of nations and people groups are found within the righteous and sinner. Believer in Jesus and the atheist. The fall however of every nation has its origin in sin. Name one righteous nation that fell? Proverbs 11:14 For lack of guidance a nation falls, but many advisers make victory sure.

        May 28, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • Cissy

      There have been and continue to be righteous people starving to death all over the world.

      May 28, 2012 at 9:22 am |
      • Roger Tharpe

        To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. There is not one righteous person who is forsaken.

        May 28, 2012 at 9:49 am |
    • Primewonk

      Continuing to claim that folks who are born gay are immoral or sinning only shows that you purposefully choose to be ignorant about the science of sèxual orientation.

      May 28, 2012 at 10:14 am |
      • Roger Tharpe

        Actually, I posit all. "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me." Psalm 51:5 All have sinned and fall short of God's glory. Jesus Christ has died and risen and that is why I am now clean. If any confess with their mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in their heart God raised him from the dead shall be saved.

        May 28, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • Cissy

      Well, this is certainly proof for athiests that all Christians DO NOT hold the same beliefs or desire to cherrypick only passages that back up their skewed beliefs, forgoing the many that tell them that they are wrong with their judgement and that they are missing the bigger picture. The Bible is, at best, a reference book heavily edited from it's original content. The truth is in our hearts and in those long talks with JESUS on the back porch when nobody else is around. Religion is a 'support group' for like minded people to convince themselves that everybody but them is left in the dark about the meaning of life. While I surely know there are some great churches and congregations, there are even more that are not righteous at all. So, be careful with all that judgement because, one day, you'll get exactly what you give.

      May 28, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • sam stone

      equal rights under the law, roger. all your bloviating about sin should not matter in the least to the laws of a secular society. if your church wants to discriminate in order to please their god, fine. keep it out of the public sphere

      May 28, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • WASP

      @roger: if history has shown us anything about how empires rise and fall, it's not sin but corruption and special interests that drive the failure of the governing body to placate the working class. a special interests group, say christians more concerned about denying another smaller group equal status that causes unrest in the masses. that unrest leads to either migration to other nations or civil disobedience leading to all out riots and revolts. so the basis of all empires/ countries failing is due to stagnation and corruption.........not "sin" which is only found in some old book that should have been shelved a couple thousand years ago.

      May 30, 2012 at 7:06 am |
  7. Evangelical

    We have to ask ourselves what is in the best interest of our nation. Should we allow a tiny minority to dictate public policy? I am so glad that North Carolina answered this resoundingly. If the ho-mos-exuals want to sue – let them. I really would like to get a definitive ruling from the Supreme Court on this. I am confident that the conservatives on the court will prevail, and ho-mos-exuals will be stripped of all rights as a group. It's time to bring back stigma.

    May 27, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • mendacitysux

      Stigma or stigmata?

      May 28, 2012 at 12:13 am |
    • Rick

      Stripped of rights as a group? How about rights as individuals? How about equal protection under the law? You are a bigot.

      May 28, 2012 at 2:04 am |
    • Rick

      "Should we allow a tiny minority to dictate public policy?"

      Like the evangelical bigots? Sorry for the redundancy

      May 28, 2012 at 2:35 am |
    • JWT

      Equality in civil rights is in the best interest of the nation. Fortunately most people see that. Now if they would only vote.

      May 28, 2012 at 5:53 am |
    • pervert alert

      There are no rights to perversion.

      May 28, 2012 at 7:40 am |
    • Primewonk

      In the US we operate under the Constîtution, not your bible. If you want to be an ignorant hômophobic bigot theocrat, do it in your house. It isn't going to cut it in our secular nation.

      May 28, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • Scott

      @Evangelical:”We have to ask ourselves what is in the best interest of our nation. Should we allow a tiny minority to dictate public policy?”

      Absolutely not! How dare black people dictate the public policy of racial integration? I say segregation in the past, segregation now and segregation forever

      May 28, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • sam stone

      "There are no rights to perversion."

      Sure there are. It is called freedom of religion

      May 28, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Sam,

      So I guess pedophiles can call themselves a religion and demand equal rights? At some point a judgement must be made between right and wrong. Natually this judgment is going to be informed by the prevailing morality of the culture which in America is Judeo-Christian. We must draw the line at immoral behaviour. Ho-mos-exuals have tolerance already with the erosion of the anti-sodomy laws. Let's leave it at that. Ho-mos-exuality will never be accepted by the majority, and certainly not if it is being forced on them. But I say, let them try to force it. They are heading for a fall in the Supreme Court.

      May 28, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • sam stone

      Evanglical: Do you seriously want to equate ho-mo-sx-uality with pedophilia? let's see, one involves consenting adultS, the other does not. Take this to the supreme court and you will lose. It is an equal protection issue, no matter how much you inbred freaks want to make it a moral issue.

      May 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • sam stone

      Evangelical:: Also, you are the one who said anything about starting a new religion, Truly, is your religious tome so impacted up your rectal canal that it is cutting off bloodflow to your brain?

      May 28, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Sam,

      Sin is sin so to God, there is no difference between ho-mos-exuality and pedophilia. They are both immoral and sinful.

      Equal protection is what the Supreme Court says it is. Good luck convincing the conservatives on the Supreme Court.. And no state has ever passed ho-mos-exual marriage when a vote was taken by the people.

      May 28, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • sam stone

      evangelical: you have no authority to speak for god. whether marriage equality comes today, or next week or next year, it is coming. if that bothers you, leave. also, we are talking about civil law, not religious law.

      May 28, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • sam stone

      evangelical: where are all these special rights you say gays are seeking? we have been waiting for you to inform us. if you cannot, that is fine. it will just confirm that you are nothing but a jesus svcking bigot. but, whatever makes you feel pious works for you, eh?

      May 29, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
    • WASP

      @evangelical: when the topic of same gender marriage reaches the supreme court the court will have to look at our founding docu-ments to see what they say.......guess what? the supreme court will find that same gender marriage is covered and protected by the founding docu-ment of these great states; in the pas-sages of the declaration of independence they will find it saids
      "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happ-iness."
      if our founding docu-ment that was a shout to the world of our birth and resolve to protect the rights of those that proudly call themselves Americans from unfair treatment isn't enough to show the supreme court that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL........then this isn't the country i fought for and i will migrate to a country i can be proud of because if it fails the highest court here, there is truly no hope for this country any longer.

      oh and before you mistake "creator" in the pas-sage above to mean "god" the term means literally whom created you, which is your parents. both parents contribute equal parts genetic material to begin gestation leading to the eventual birth of a human bearing traits from both parents.

      May 30, 2012 at 7:24 am |
  8. us

    Hey CNN – post the story of, Lady Gaga cancels concert in Indonesia due to threats of Violence from ISLAMISTS

    May 27, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • sam stone

      this is not about them. stay on topic.

      May 28, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
  9. Worship Poseidon

    Tony Perkins, Tim Tebow and Kirk Cameron are all fanny bandits.

    May 27, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Tony Perkins is fighting for the soul of America.

      May 27, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • midwest rail

      The only thing Tony Perkins is fighting for is the financial health of his "non-profit", which of course pays him a substantial salary to "manage" it. If you believe otherwise, you are seriously deluded.

      May 27, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
    • Rick

      The soul of America? You sure got that right. It was bad enough we gave equal rights to them women and nigras, the last thing we need is to give it to the gays. Whatsa god fearin' man to do?

      Evangelical......you are a pious bigot hiding behind a bible.

      May 27, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Rick, are you so blind that you cannot see the difference between civil rights and the ho-mos-exual agenda? Race and s-ex are inherent characteristics and are not the moral equivalent of sinful behaviour which is what ho-mos-exuals practice.

      May 27, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Rick

      Evangelical: Are you so blinded by dogma that you cannot see that it has everything to do with equal rights? Does it make it easier to discriminate if you speak of it as an "agenda"?

      May 28, 2012 at 2:07 am |
    • Rick

      Evangelical: And do you feel that orientation is NOT an innate characteristic? If that is the case, please tell us at what age you decided to be straight. I am straight, but I did not choose it. It sort of popped up watching Raquel Welch when I was about 12.

      May 28, 2012 at 2:12 am |
    • Rick

      "Betty, Acting on ho-mos-exual inclinations IS a choice even if the orientation is not"

      So, is orientation a choice or is it not?

      May 28, 2012 at 2:20 am |
    • Evangelical

      Rick,

      Never said anything about orientation. But ho-mos-exuals want special protections for their sinful behavior, not for their orientation. Humans can distinguish between right and wrong and don't have to act on their base desires. Ho-mos-exuals want const.itutional protection to be able to carry out their evil deeds.

      May 28, 2012 at 2:33 am |
    • Rick

      So, what do you consider the difference between orientation and inclinations? They are looking for equal rights. If you consider their behavior "sinful", so what? Do we deny other sinners rights? Also, your spelling indicates that you are not from the United States. What does it matter to you what rights other nations grant their citizens?

      May 28, 2012 at 2:38 am |
    • Rick

      What "special protections" do they want? To marry? The fact that you (or anyone else) consider their deeds "evil" does not mean squat in the realm of public policy

      May 28, 2012 at 2:42 am |
    • sam stone

      bigotry under the guise of piety really irks me. evangelical....you are a bigot.

      i have a theory that petty vindictive punks find comfort in a petty vindictive god that (will wonders never cease?) hates the same people they do.

      evangelical here is yet another data point in support of that hypothesis.

      May 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  10. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer has been shown to have no discernible effect towards what was prayed for.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just go to http://santorum.com to find out more.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you fat, pale, weak, and sedentary.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes you secretively flatulent and embarrassed about it.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    May 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Ever wonder if atheism is filth. Look above to remove all doubt. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      May 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Prayer Changes Things, none of the non-believers read Proverbs 16:4 to humble themselves in order to ask Jesus for forgiveness, that they be allowed to get closer to Him, and of course, sin no more.

      May 27, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • JWT

      No need to humble myself before a non-existant god. I only do that before my wife who is the only deity i know of.

      It is years past the time when gay marriage should have been available. The sooner the bigots and extremist religious types butt out of something that is none of their business the better.

      May 27, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      JWT, did you ever hear the saying "be careful for what you ask for, you just may get it"? You're just another one that has this condition 2 Thessalonians 2:11, or eagerly follows those that do. Either way, I'd humble myself to Jesus, ask Him for forgiveness of all my sins, ask that you get closer to Him, then of course, sin no more.

      May 28, 2012 at 1:03 am |
    • JWT

      How ridiculous to think that your god applies to all pepole. 7 billion people on the planet with many vaied beliefs and all are correct for themselves. Your bible does not apply to everyone, never has and never will. It's fine for you to believe but to insist that all people do is utter stupidity.

      May 28, 2012 at 5:47 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      Giving someone equal rights does not infringe or take away rights from you.
      It just makes it illegal to enforce your prejudice and hate.

      It really is just that simple!

      Hey GOP = Grandstanding Obstructionist Politicians, remember this,

      Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!

      And this,

      That which you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me! [Jesus]

      And this,

      Judge not, that ye may not be judged

      Stop denying others equal rights and practice the Christian family value of treating others with dignity and respect for a change.

      May 29, 2012 at 7:27 am |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things
    Proven

    May 27, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer has been shown to have no discernible effect towards what was prayed for.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just go to http://santorum.com to find out more.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you fat, pale, weak, and sedentary.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes you secretively flatulent and embarrassed about it.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      May 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things. Proof provided by it that replied

      May 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • Jesus

      ~Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      June 4, 2012 at 10:52 am |
  12. Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer has been shown to have no discernible effect towards what was prayed for.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just go to http://santorum.com to find out more.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
    Prayer makes you fat and sedentary.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
    Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
    Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes you secretively flatulent and embarrassed about it.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
    Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
    Prayer wastes time.

    May 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      ... said the carnally minded, spiritually dead that is afraid to find his/her real self.

      May 27, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Heaven sent us tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, and famines, plus cancers, typhoid, meningitis, lupus, and other horrible diseases that cause horrid suffering and death to millions of people worldwide.

      And then he wants to torture you in hell forever if you suspect that he doesn't exist, even given that there is no specific evidence for his existence and that he apparently hasn't shown his face for at least 2000 years if ever.

      Wow, god must be quite the cruel, evil jerk. To be polite.

      May 27, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Seems to me phony heavensent knows Proverbs 16:4.

      May 27, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
  13. Mike P

    The problem I have with gay marriage as regards children is that as a child, I grew up knowing that boys were supposed to desire girls - if not at first, then eventually - and most men would someday marry women because that's how you get babies. That's not social convention, that's just the reality of nature. And I was a late bloomer - didn't get interested in girls until I was 14. But I always knew that someday I would be chasing girls because that's what I, as a boy, was supposed to do. But I wonder how I would have responded if back in the day we had such things as a plethora of openly gay people as well as civil unions and gay marriage. Would I have experimented with being gay? I don't know - I always thought that the image of two boys kissing was gross even when I was 8 years old, so maybe not - but I'm glad that such things didn't exist then so that I didn't have to wonder. As it is, I'm completely hetero as far as I can tell, but I wonder what we are doing to our kids by opening up the doors of gay marriage and telling them, "You can go either way, and that's okay," in clear contradiction with not only nature but also most religions. That's what I really think is wrong with the pro-gay movement today: Society and pop culture are teaching our kids that there is no such thing as normal, that anything goes, to explore every behavior, even behavior that is degrading to what it means to be rational human beings, particularly human beings created in the image of a rational God who designed the world to work a certain way.

    May 27, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Eric G

      I am sorry Mike, but your last line makes a claim that carries a huge burden of proof responsibility. Without the satisfaction of that burden of proof, your opinions are based only in your own ho-mo-phobia.

      Fortunately, there is a simple solution to your problem. Please provide any verifiable evidence that your God exists and designed the universe. Once you have that verified and established, we can then discuss the coincidence that your god always seems to dislike the same things as you.

      May 27, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • Betty

      Mike, suggest you do some reading here in the National Geographic. You sort of covertly present gay as a choice, and I wonder what your motives are for doing so, but it is nwo known to be not a choice, and has been established to be completely natural in most species including our own. The genetic basis for it is now becoming better understood too, making Christian dogma about the subject even more silly, erroneous, and obsolete:

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVA&w=640&h=360]

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal_2.html

      May 27, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Holly in CA

      Great point. Kids as young as 10 years old are declaring themselves gay, when there are many many boys/girls who are late bloomers and don't have any idea what they are feeling, if anything at all. At that age they can be influenced by the slightest suggestion.

      May 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Betty,

      Acting on ho-mos-exual inclinations IS a choice even if the orientation is not. We are not mere beasts beholden to our base desires. We have the ability to discern right from wrong. Would you not say that it is wrong for me to commit adultery even if my base nature is to do so? I can control myself. I am a moral being. It is disingenuous to suggest that ho-mos-exual behaviour is not a choice.

      May 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • Rick

      "It is disingenuous to suggest that ho-mos-exual behaviour is not a choice."

      It is equally disingenuous to suggest that het-er-o-se-x-ual behavior is not a choice. Where is the push to deny them their CIVIL RIGHTS?

      May 28, 2012 at 2:45 am |
    • sam stone

      evangelical: not everyone accepts your version of right and wrong. get the f over it

      May 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • Evangelical

      Rick,

      Absolutely, het-eros-exual behaviour is a choice. But you don't see forn-icators and ad-ulterers demanding special rights based on their behaviour. If they were, I certainly would be against that too. This is why I oppose the whole idea of "domestic partnerships" in that it gives legitimacy to evil behaviour.

      May 28, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Eric G

      @Evangelical: They are not asking for "special" rights. They deserve EQUAL rights.

      May 28, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • sam stone

      Evangelical: What special rights are they asking for?

      May 28, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • sam stone

      Evangelical: You seek to deny gays EQUAL RIGHTS because you feel that their behavior is sinful. Do you not feel the same about f-o-r-n-i-c-a-t-o-r-s and a-d-u-l-t-e-r-e-r-s? If not, why? If so, why are you not seeking to deny them equal rights? We are still waiting on these special rights that you say gays are demanding. Come on bigot.....bloviate some more hate.

      May 28, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
  14. Don

    I like this one: "Praying changes things" . Sit down and wait. I will be a long wait.

    May 27, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • Crocker

      Test

      May 27, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things. .

    May 27, 2012 at 8:48 am |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer has been shown to have no discernible effect towards what was prayed for.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just go to http://santorum.com to find out more.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you fat, pale, and sedentary.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer causes long term problems for your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes you secretively flatulent and embarrassed about it.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you post really stupid shit.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      May 27, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven and powerful

      May 27, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Prayer is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
      Prayer has been shown to have no discernible effect towards what was prayed for.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just go to http://santorum.com to find out more.
      Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise.
      Prayer makes you fat, pale, weak, and sedentary.
      Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
      Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
      Prayer fucks up your knees and your neck and your back.
      Prayer can cause heart attacks, especially among the elderly.
      Prayer reveals how stupid you are to the world.
      Prayer exposes your backside to pervert priests.
      Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
      Prayer makes you secretively flatulent and embarrassed about it.
      Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
      Prayer gives you knobbly knees.
      Prayer makes you frothy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
      Prayer dulls your senses.
      Prayer makes you hoard cats.
      Prayer makes you smell like shitty kitty litter and leads you on to harder drugs.
      Prayer wastes time.

      May 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things. Proof provided twice by it that posts under 'prayer is... etc'

      May 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      May 29, 2012 at 11:13 am |
  16. pervert alert

    This is a qu-eer topic.

    May 27, 2012 at 8:47 am |
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