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American nuns come out swinging against Vatican in face of ‘radical feminist’ accusations
Protesters in New York show support for American nuns in the face of Vatican criticism.
June 1st, 2012
09:42 AM ET

American nuns come out swinging against Vatican in face of ‘radical feminist’ accusations

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) – The leadership representing most of America’s nuns came out swinging Friday against the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church, in the face of charges from the Vatican that the nuns are espousing “radical feminism” and straying from church teaching.

The Vatican’s criticism of the American nuns has “caused scandal and pain throughout the church community, and created greater polarization,” the Leadership Conference of Women Religious - which represents about 80% of American nuns - said in a statement Friday.

The board of the group had convened in Washington this week for three days of special meetings, provoked by an April assessment from the Vatican that said America’s nuns had largely gone rogue and warned that they could be a negative global influence on the church.

The Vatican report said that at an annual gathering of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, guest speakers who preached "radical feminism" went unchallenged. The report also said the nuns were too focused on social justice and not enough on opposing abortion, euthanasia and same-sex marriage.

The Leadership Conference of Women Religious said Friday that the assessment “was based on unsubstantiated accusations and (was) the result of a flawed process that lacked transparency.”

“Moreover, the sanctions imposed were disproportionate to the concerns raised and could compromise (the nuns’) ability to fulfill their mission,” the statement continued.

The Leadership Conference’s 22-member board said that its leaders would travel to Rome this month to meet with the head of the Vatican’s Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, the office that launched an investigation of the American nuns several years ago.

Hours later, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a statement from Archbishop Peter Sartain in which he vowed there was a wholehearted commitment "to dealing with the important issues raised by (the Vatican's) doctrinal assessment and the LCWR board in an atmosphere of openness, honesty, integrity and fidelity."

"I look forward to our next meeting in Rome in June as we continue to collaborate in promoting the important work of the LCWR for consecrated life in the United States," said Sartain, who heads the Archdiocese of Seattle. "The Holy See and the Bishops of the United States are deeply proud of the historic and continuing contribution of women religious - a pride that has been echoed by many in recent weeks."

Pope Benedict XVI, a theologian by training, was the head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith for decades before he was elevated to papacy. In interviews conducted while he held that earlier post, he spoke often about growing the church by pruning - becoming smaller but more devout before expanding.

Church experts say that the nuns have a few options in responding to one of the most powerful offices in the church. They could accept the assessment, negotiate or resign en masse and form a new group outside the watchful eye of the Vatican.

–CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Vatican

soundoff (1,467 Responses)
  1. mercedes

    I know of a very popular monastery in Germany that does for-profit meditation seminars. Beautiful grounds, quiet setting, all fantastic. But they learned that as long as they were teaching the words of Jesus: “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me,” attendance was lackluster. They now primarily teach Buddhism, but welcome teachings of Islam and all other faiths equally. Profits are soaring. They specifically discourage their staff and attendees from talking about the good news that, through Christ, people can finally be reconciled to God. The less this Catholic monastery talks about the truth of the Gospel, the more money they make. They are sold out for months in advance; 30,000 visitors a year.

    I am Protestant, not Catholic. I do not embrace the man-made hierarchy of the Catholic Church or the secrecy and corruption it engenders, but I understand why they are concerned about nuns and priests - those who bear their name - and what it is they teach. Perhaps the vitriolic reaction of these American nuns is revealing.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  2. Sussay

    I hope "rogue nuns" DO have a negative influence on the church - a weakened church is a good start.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • Mari

      the catholic church will never weaken. if you want to weaken a faith, go weaken your own faith.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
  3. tryclyde

    I'm catholic and believe in the religion's core teachings (namely the Gospels), but I've had enough of the ultra-conservative views of the church.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • GFreas

      Buh-bye. Go find a nice Protestant sect that teaches what YOU think God is about. Don't you see the strangeness in that?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • Brian

      I second that exact statement

      June 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • tryclyde

      No, God or Jesus would not promote intolerance against groups such as gays. Keep thinking that though.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • Berman

      No GFreas, I don't see anything strange in that. Until G-d Himself comes down and personally tells us what His views are ALL teachings are someone's interpretations of what G-d wants....including the Pope's interpretations. Your entire argument is predicated on the notion that this former Nazi / head of the Inquisition speaks for G-d Himself.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • tryclyde

      Furthermore, the Protestants broke off because they saw how corrupt those past popes and the hierarchy of the church were. It wasn't about the teachings of The Bible/Gospels, it was about how the church used its power for ill will.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Failure to communicate

      @Tryclyde

      We all know the protestants broke off only because Henry the eight wanted to get a divorce and by starting his own church, he could do so. There was no moral right there or any other nonsense of being divinely inspired, it was Henry not being able to keep it in his pants.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Failure to communicate

      PS GFreas has a point

      How do you know what god wants or does not want? By choosing to believe in one thing and not another and still call yourself an X type of christian (whether it be catholic or protestant) aren't you just defining god in your own head and not the way the bible is clearly telling you?

      June 1, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • tryclyde

      All the Protestant sects DID NOT break off simply because of King Henry. That's ridiculous.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • tryclyde

      Also, why did people flock to Protestantism? Because they REALLY wanted the King to get a divorce?

      June 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • Brit

      Failure to Communicate, Martin Luther had actually broken from the Catholic Church years before Henry VIII decided to break with them. In fact, he used some of Luther's teachings to influence his own decisions. Martin Luther left because of the mass corruption he was seeing within the church. So before you start spouting some "rumor" you've heard, make sure your facts are correct.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
  4. peggi

    And the Vatican wonders why so many Catholics move away from the religion. We have men making laws, dictating their take on the religion and not really caring what the people need or want. I was raised Catholic, but do not practice it any more. I am tired of being a number, asked for money and get nothing but memorized prayers in return. I hope the nuns leave en masse and form a new Catholic religion–one where all are welcome, where all are known and where all are comforted. Let the Pope take care of his business first, clean house on the pedifiles and in his own Vatican, then he can throw stones.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • GFreas

      The nuns threw the first stone. Sorry you left the Church; she's an incredible source of love and support in my life. You let the world pull you away. You gotta reject the world, peggi.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Nicole Chardenet

      What a terrific idea. Catholicism for *progressives*.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • SLArbiter

      @Gfreas

      Wooooow... Reject the world? It seems like being literally insane is just peachy as long as you claim it's your religious fervor.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • GIgi

      To: GFreas

      People have the right to question authority. Don't blame the victim, abusers need to be held accountable. The Catholic Church has a history of violence (Spanish Inquisition, Crusades) and abuse (children). Nuns haven't strayed from the word..the Church has forgotten the gospel.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • GFreas

      Gigi – Who's your authority? Man or God? Catholicism is not a democracy; people confuse that these days with all of the political hoopla and GayNN's attempt to politicize the Church.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      The probably of there being any gods is so low that most likely there are no gods so the answer is 'man!'

      June 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • tryclyde

      GFreas: It's funny how you claim to be full of love then use a slur to show your ignorance and intolerance.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • tryclyde

      @Nicole: There is a very big progressive Catholic movement happening right now. Search for it, there are numerous articles about it.

      June 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  5. teremist

    Many Catholic clerics, including the Pope grew up believing that the purpose of women was to serve men and do as they were told. Equality was a privilege reserved for men. Menial and tedious tasks were reserved for women. This antiquated philosophy, that women must be subservient in all things, is in effect ABUSE and SLAVERY. It must NOT be tolerated. It is not biblical, nor is it in any way humane. The function of the Pope should be to guide and enlighten ALL of the faithful, not just those with male genitalia.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • edgalbraith

      BULLSEYE.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
    • JBB

      So that's why they pray the Rosary...wow, thanks for enlightening the rest of the world.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • ksuflash

      Husbands, love your wife as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it . . . So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church . . . For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother and shal.1 be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Hmmmmm...that doesn't sound like ABUSE and SLAVERY to me.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
  6. J R Brown

    I'm always a bit confused by people who call themselves "Catholic" but reject the position of the Pope or the Vatican on issues. Isn't the Pope the absolute authority for Catholic doctrine on earth? Isn't the Papacy the rock upon which the Church is built? Isn't it reasonable to conclude that if a person wants to call themselves a "Catholic" that they actually practice Catholicism and not their own "interpretation" of it?

    As an atheist, I don't begrudge people of faith for having a faith in God. What really makes my head hurt trying to understand is when people claim to be of a faith or to be a Christian and have absolutely no clue as to the idea that they're supposed to actually believe and uphold the teachings of CHRIST and not their own religion ideas and call it "close enough".

    Catholic nuns are accountable to the "home office", as it were. The Pope is THE authority as to whether you are "doing it right" as a Catholic or not. If you want to be free to determine your own religious beliefs, then have the guts to leave the church and stand on your own two feet...don't call yourself a Catholic while simultaneously turning your back on the very thing that makes you a Catholic...the authority of the Pope as God's voice on earth.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • GFreas

      Pretty good for an atheist, JR.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Greenspam

      No, that's a man-made rule. Where does it say in the Bible that you must obey the Pope? Nowhere!

      June 1, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • GFreas

      The only part that you misunderstand is that with Catholicism, how we understand what Christ expects of us comes through the Holy Father. If everyone interpreted the Gospels themselves, there'd be no religion; and notwithstanding what ignorant people think and the media reports, the world is a better place because of Catholicism.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • OOO

      That goes for the 98% of catholic women (they use birth control) and for a large percentage of catholic men as well (that believe birth control is OK). All of these people are in the "close-enough" group. They should be creating a catholic-lite, but I guess it is important for them to be in that social group.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • JBB

      I'm assuming you call yourself American? Does that mean you have to accept the position of the POTUS because he's considered your leader?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • GIgi

      To: GFreas

      The world is a better place as a result of Catholicism? Give me a break. Ask the people who were 'detained' in the Irish laundries, or the hundreds and hundreds of kids that were abused. When you are offered a pretty-colored sweet drink..don't drink it again.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • GFreas

      Green – You're not a Catholic, I presume, else you'd know where the papacy was established in scripture, and which, has continued unbroken through today.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • OOO

      JBB
      A religion is not a state. I do not agree with your analogy.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • GFreas

      Gigi – But for Catholics, we'd all be Muslims. How'd you like that?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • edgalbraith

      J.R. Brown: I'm an atheist also. Atheists generally believe you should think for yourself in all matters...including spiritual. Your argument is that if you are Catholic you should NOT think for yourself, but let the boss man tell you what to think. Catholicism is more than absolute obedience to the Pope. Dozens of popes have been scandalously wrong headed and evil. Must one obey them? Think a bit, please.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
  7. Victor Matese

    All of these Nuns chose to enter the Convent, knowing the strict and possibly archaic views of The Vatican.
    It's not about whether you agree or disagree with The Church. If you disagree then leave. Pure and simple.
    Leave the Church and it's tenants because you disagree with them. Don't challenge and harm a religion that has
    been around for centuries simply because your ego has been challenged. Never in the history of this country has a religion been so ridiculed, harassed and misunderstood. Yes, there is corruption and shame throughout the leadership, but not within the Church itself – which is The Catholic People. Sisters, if you're unhappy, if you don't agree, then please leave. Get a job.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Mary

      This is nothing more than total control of women by a bunch of dirty old misogynistic males. Thise isn't 1400 anymore.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • Joe Sweeney

      ...or stay and make and make our Church better. I put a lot more faith in the sisters than the Vatican hierarchy.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  8. steveB

    The funny thing about many of the athiests who comment here is that 1.) they are just as judgemental and intolerant as the religious folks they criticize, and 2.) they seem intent on 'converting' people. Just be who you want to be and quit worrying about everyone else.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • OOO

      Steve,
      Here in Texas, the religious right has gotten hold of the school board and are trying to re-write history in an anti-secular manner.
      As long as this kind of stuff goes on, we HAVE to be in their faces.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • J R Brown

      As an atheist, I have to agree with you. Any person attemption to proseletyze is a religious nutter, even a person who claims no religion at all. I am perfectly happy to be an atheist without the chip on my shoulder trying to prove the entire world is wrong about God...those who call themselves atheists who take out billboards, etc are no different than the religious folks they are trying to convert.

      Atheists can be just as big of jerks as anyone...like Christians have their Fred Phelps, atheists have our own ah0les.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • tryclyde

      In Texas they want to write in history books that the world is 10,000 years old.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • CJ

      No SteveB, we are not. We are not the ones who go around knocking on doors trying to get you to become 'saved'. We leave that to the religious who can always be counted on to try to invade in your life explaining how they understand god's 'plan' for you. And we are not the one's who are trying to make laws that govern how other people's romantic lives are to be conducted. Religion seems to think that even non-believers or people of different faiths must conform to their notions of reproductive morality. When religion takes its rightful place alongside astrology, and it stays out of politics and education, then we will leave it alone.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  9. me

    The delusional vs. The Delusional....in an all out fairy tale, child molesting thieving grudge match that is Catholicism. Oh did that offend you? Then grow up and learn to control your emotions.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • GFreas

      Braiinwashed by the media much? What do you know about Catholicism except what you read on GayNN?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • JBB

      Why would it offend me that you come off sounding like a moron?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • tryclyde

      Yeah, because YOU sound so much like an adult with that post.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  10. John

    It's humorous watching all these atheists weighing in on a situation that shouldn't concern them but I think it's like the story of the scorpion and the frog.....it is in the nature of an atheist to spew hate even if they have to go looking somewhere you would think they wouldn't care about.

    As for the story, the nuns and the papal bureaucrats will come to an understanding....I think both have been to arrogant to listen to the concerns of the other and, since they got their dirty laundry aired, they are going to have to resolve their differences.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • me

      And it is the nature of the mentally ill to hold on to their delusions and even use parables and fables to reinforce their mental illness.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • CosmicC

      I don't know the scorpion and frog story. Can you tell us?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • Valerie

      Agreed! I am really not so sure why atheists are so bothered....they really get in a frenzy........it's comical.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • Lauren

      John and Valerie sound very typical of Catholics. Judgmental and unintelligent.

      Seems like you THINK you know a whole lot about atheists, but my guess is that you've never met one in person. If you want to make up bunch of judgmental BS (doesn't your bible preach against that?!?), I'm going to hit you right back. You are crappy people because you are Catholic, and ALL you Catholics are the same. Turnabout is fair play. Cry for me, babies.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Robert

      @me, why do you care what anyone else believes if it doesn't infringe on your right to believe whatever you want?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • John

      @ CosmicC

      From wikipedia: it's the a fable about a scorpion asking a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature. The fable is used to illustrate the position that the behaviour of some creatures is irrepressible, no matter how they are treated and no matter what the consequences.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • JerrySperry

      wrong...it's obvious that the nature of the catholic church is hatred of women, gays, little boys, science etc....they help push unwanted, non-secular policies in our gov't so we must CRUSH the church!!!!

      June 1, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • John

      @ Lauren

      I have a couple of great friends that are atheists and one that's an agnostic so I misspoke in my second reference to atheists. I first said, "these atheists" and my second reference said, "an atheist", which makes it sould like all atheists are like the ones that comment on the religion blog here. I know that is not correct. There are non-judgemental atheists who do not attack other people for their beliefs.....they may not be here but I do know that they exist. Good point.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
    • jj

      I wouldn't be offended by the church if they weren't out to mold the world to their liking. If these CHRISTians, as they like to be called, just stayed in their churches, helped the poor, stopped spreading hate – the kinds of things their boss said they should do, we wouldn't be bothered as much. They are a political organization, and should pay taxes. They are trying to fill the courts, military, schools and school boards with the faithful, and taking control. I have no interest in a far-right christian nation!
      "Mentioning Jesus in your speech: Small government. Doing what Jesus asked: Big government. " —Stephen Colbert

      June 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • edgalbraith

      John: Sorry, pal. Religion belongs to the childhood of our species, not to mature adults.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • John

      @ jj – enjoy a good conspiracy do you? Did you also see the second gunman on the grassy knoll? You know those aren't just weather balloons in the sky. LOL

      @edgelbraith – i assume you are talking about your religion of atheism and I have to agree that some of you are very childish (in addition to being hateful, petty & devoid of compassion for others) but I don't think it's fair to lump all of you in a group like that. I know that some are actually different than people like you and I refuse to think that the ones I know are the only good ones (despite all the evidence this blog my offer).

      June 2, 2012 at 12:13 am |
  11. gen

    Excuse me Vatican but America is not Vatican, is a multi religion country, so the nuns cannot enforce your teachings to the public only catholic schools. I am Christian too but not catholic and I think worshiping the pope or any religious figure is completely the opposite of what Jesus is about......

    June 1, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Valerie

      Catholics DO NOT "worship" ANYONE other than the Lord God. Yet another individual who THINKS they know what they are talking about....and has NO PROBLEM advertising their own ignorance.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Mari

      You don't know Catholicism. Catholics do not "worship" the Pope. He is only the head of the Church, and the Vicar of Christ. He is not worshipped. Respected, yes. Worshipped, no.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Mary

      Mari: Catholics don't worship popes but they call him "infallible" which is not true. I don't think you can call any human "infallible".
      "Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church which states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error."

      June 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Mich

      I always amazes me when non-Catholic Christians bring out the old, "praying to idols" arguments. These supposed Christian religions are nothing but a bunch of judgemental fanatics. Baptists, Methodist, Lutherans, and all other non-Catholic religions need to remember that their religion is a result of some HUMAN deciding they didn't want to follow the rules of the church so they created their own splinter religions. Catholicism is the ORIGINAL Christian religion!

      June 1, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
  12. MiketheElectrician

    The pope needs to tend to his scandal at the vatican and paedophile priests. Let the good Nuns continue the work of caring for the poor and infirm!. I believe that Christ's words from the gospel take precendence over any Papal figure!

    June 1, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Mary

      Well said. Some times, power goes to people's heads and they forget what their functions are and what their goals should be.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  13. CNN Skeptic

    CNN needs something or someone to provoke in order to draw viewers, why not use the Catholic Church? It's the obvious easy target with recycled news and pandering to boot.

    The current state of the LCWR is the result of decades of neglect from the US Bishops. The Vatican is involved because the need is that great for the LCWR to be put back in line with Catholic doctrine (doctrine being the minimum requirements of the faith!). I think the most common conception of what is happening here is that the "mean men of the Vatican" are doing evil against the "poor old ladies" of the LCWR. That is not the case at all. This is not an issue of men vs. women. This is an issue of doctrine, a generally internal Church affair that is being blown out of proportion by the LCWR to try to consolidate the power and prestige of the leaders of the LCWR. Any and every Catholic Religious person should honor the vows they took, including honoring the authority of the Bishops and the Pope. For those who have trouble understanding this you should try to put it in another context- like a corporation or something like that. Imagine you're a salesman and you start selling something that goes against the policies of your company. Would your boss not be "in the right" to fire you? A compassionate boss gives you the chance to change and adjust back to the company policies. How different is that from this situation? The LCWR merely is selling something that is not, by the doctrinal job description, Catholic.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Steven S.

      Well said, well written, well done!

      June 1, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Neeneko

      Corporation is a pretty good metaphor... well, no even metaphor, the Catholic Church is somewhere between quasi-state and corporation at this point.

      As for not being 'men vs women'.... only men are allowed to set dogma and lead, women are only to do as they are told. Sounds pretty 'men vs women' to me, with the men hiding behind 'well, the religion is what we say it is, God told us so! but God only talks to men so whatever he tells you doesn't count'

      June 1, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • Lew Rogers

      I have heard your excuse before – bad mouthing the Catholic Church just due to get headlines. I pray the headlines will not disappear – while Priests abusing children continues to occur – while the Catholic Church hides the offending Priests – while women are treated with disrespect – while accusations of Vatican Bank money laundering becomes actual criminal charges.

      Indeed, if this was Islam doing these things, there would be hell for Muslims to pay. Catholics are getting off easy – anyone making fun of your kids in school or calling them names?

      Soon all must become involved just to protect the children. Our politicians should be stepping up to the plate and limiting the ability of Catholic Priests ability to be alone with Children. Religious freedom is available to individuals, not to Corporations or sovereign countries just because they carry a golden cross.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • Lew Rogers

      I have heard your excuse before – bad mouthing the Catholic Church just due to get headlines. I pray the headlines will not disappear – while Priests abusing children continues to occur – while the Catholic Church hides the offending Priests – while women are treated with disrespect – while accusations of Vatican Bank money laundering becomes actual criminal charges.

      Indeed, if this was Islam doing these things, there would be hell for Muslims to pay. Catholics are getting off easy – anyone making fun of your kids in school or calling them names?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Robert

      @Lew, are you really suggesting that Muslims are held accountable for their actions?

      June 1, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • Kevin M.

      You cite Catholic "Doctrine". OK. Well, if I'm not mistaken, said doctrine is heavily based upon the Church's interpretation of the Bible. The Bible says clearly that I can sell my daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7). I mean after all, she's female, so obviously by Bible standards, she's simply property. Can you tell me, what would be a fair price these days?

      Not men vs. women? Think again.

      (tip of my hat to the character "Josiah Bartlett" for that one.)

      June 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
  14. Yep

    Oh these horrible nuns that are supposedly teaching radical feminism, how dare you. Why don't you just molest little girls instead, then the RC church will protect you and just move you to another location to continue on molesting. I do believe the church, not religion and faith, has all but sealed their destiny with the lack of action in protecting the most innocent (children). How can they even get up in front of people and pass judgement? Their morals are obviously lacking. It's sad and sick!

    June 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • GFreas

      First, the molestation was 80% pubescent boys. Second, you obviously have no clue about what the Catholic Church teaches or does, except for that which you disagree with based in GayNN articles.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
  15. Will

    Yeah, how dare these nuns focus on helping the needy. If the Pope commands Catholics to ostracize others then that is what these nuns must do. A good Christian must follow a Pope over the teachings of Jesus. Get your priorities straight ladies.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Mari

      False. Catholics do NOT follow the pope over Christ. get your facts straight pal.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
  16. citizenUSA

    I guess this just goes to show even some nuns think there are more important things about life than just what religion thinks. I have lots of experience with nuns. Most of them are very nice but you don't want to pi**off ANY of them.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
  17. Rick

    They should resign en masse and form a new group outside the watchful eye of the Vatican.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
  18. Twisty Turny

    "Radical feminism"? Nuns?

    Isn't there a commandment against bearing false witness? The Vatican must be above their own law.

    June 1, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • CosmicC

      Feminism: The radical notion that women are people

      June 1, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
  19. karen

    the catholic church-protector of pedophiles is concerned about bra burning nuns. i really don't understand you catholics-you worship the pope- isn't that against jesus' law?? why are there so many poor dirt eating catholics around the world and the pope is bathed in gold??

    June 1, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • Mari

      False. catholics do NOT worship the pope. he is the head of the church, and vicar of Christ. but catholics do NOT worship him. get your facts straight pal.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • John

      @Mari – this comment section has nothing to do with facts....this is where hate-spewing trolls attack any person of faith to tries to discuss the current topic.

      June 2, 2012 at 12:16 am |
  20. Cheryl

    98% of nuns and sisters do wonderful work with the poor, the homeless, the immigrant and broken-heart. The Vatican is NOT talking about those people who are the majority of Catholic religious. They are referring to those who claim to have moved beyond Jesus, who dabble with goddesses, and who make up their own theology as they go along. The ones who teach Jesus isn't God etc. Why are these people surprised that the Vatican isn't happy with what they are espousing, and are pretend to be shocked when they are called out? If you want to BE Catholic simply keep the vows that you willingly took. Why is that such a hard concept for supposed adult to understand?

    June 1, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • Twisty Turny

      Bullshit. Show me even one of the 80% of American nuns under fire who claim to be "beyond Jesus."

      You are a liar.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • Liz S.

      I'm with Twisty Turny! Cheryl you are obviously just spouting misinformation.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • CosmicC

      Yes, but in this country all you have to do is tell a lie loudly and repeat it and then people will believe it and take it for fact.

      June 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
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