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June 6th, 2012
11:26 AM ET

Vatican reprimand sends American nun's book up bestseller lists

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com

(CNN) – Authors are known to seek out glowing blurbs to help sell books, but they might consider courting a Vatican reprimand instead.

After the Vatican’s doctrinal watchdog condemned an American nun for a book she wrote on human sexuality this week, the book shot up Amazon.com’s bestseller list, becoming the #1 best selling religious studies book by Tuesday.

On Wednesday , Sister Margaret A. Farley's "Just Love: A Framework for Christian Sexual Ethics," was the #16 best-selling book on Amazon overall, just ahead of Laura Hillenbrand’s “Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption,” which has been on Amazon's bestseller list for well over a year.

Farley's book has been on the list for three days. The Washington Post reported that the book was #142,982 on Amazon as recently as Monday.

That was the day the Vatican revealed its censure of Sister Margaret A. Farley, who teaches at Yale Divinity School, over her 2006 book, which the church said is out of step with official church teaching on human sexuality, including masturbation and homosexuality.

“Masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action,” the church said in a statement Monday that went on to characterize “homosexual acts” as “acts of grave depravity.”

The reprimand warned church officials not to use Farley’s book, raising eyebrows in Catholic circles because she is one of the country’s most respected female Catholic theologians.

In a statement, Farley defended her work, saying it was not meant as an official church teaching.

Farley said she feared the Vatican “misrepresents (perhaps unwittingly) the aims of my work and the nature of it as a proposal that might be in service of, not against, the church and its faithful people.”

Her censure came days after the leadership that represents most American nuns concluded a meeting in Washington to devise a response to an April Vatican assessment that accused the nuns of promoting “radical feminism.”

Taken together, the Vatican critiques signal an attempt to reign in America’s nuns, a community that the Holy See believes has drifted away from church teaching.

“The Vatican believes that there is a climate of dissent in some quarters of the women’s religious life in America,” said John Allen, CNN’s Vatican analyst. “They are trying to deal with that, and both these developments speak to that.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Sexuality • Vatican

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  4. YeahRight

    The government should ban teaching of any religion to any person under 18. By parents, churches, synagogue, whomever. This will solve many of today's problems. Religious people are r_e_t_a_r_d_e_d

    July 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • derp

      You are wrong. the comment gives r_e_t_a_r_d_e_d people a bad name. religious people do not deserve the oxygen they breathe.

      July 12, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Any brainless twit who believes a 2000 year old fable doesnt deserve a vote. We should change the laws to do this.

      July 12, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • Primewonk

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      July 12, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  5. SoldierOfConscience

    Im surprised that a nun of all people wrote a book that condoned deviancy like g@y stuff. Doesnt she know that it is in the same category as best1ality, p3d0philia, etc? and that is it forbidden by the church?

    July 11, 2012 at 11:16 am |
  6. Bev in La

    Mark in the Middle: I totally agree with you. I'm on the progressive side but think calling folks names do no good and negativity leads to snarky and unproductive discussion. We can have disagreements without being disagreeable. These Nuns are heroic! I'm not a catholic and I hope they suceed. They're now going on a bus tour to expose Paul Ryans gift to the 1% while his plan is to make working folks like us pay. Seniors like me will be attacked though attacks on Social Security and Medicare. Keep talking Mark and I'll do the same.

    June 12, 2012 at 6:08 pm |
  7. Jim

    So, bottom line, psuedo-sisters, is this: we’re coming after you now, and we intend to root out every last rotten apple — which might be the significant majority. But then, this is God’s work — and we know who wins in the end.

    June 11, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
  8. jonp

    This book is inconsistent with the Catholic Church's silent doctrine of pederasty.
    Masturbation, no!
    Little boys, hell yeah!

    June 8, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  9. yeahalright

    Glad they're right on top of these renegade nuns pushing for common decency. They'll stamp this dissent out in no time.

    Child molestation by predators in the priesthood on the other hand? Oh , deny, fight tooth and nail, delay, obfuscate and ignore ad nauseum for 50 years.

    Glad the catholic church has its priorities in their proper place. Which is apparently in chidrens' pants.

    June 7, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      Actually what happened was that bunch of closet g@ys got into the church and did their thing. The church got the blame. They were foolish enough not to take action in time. Too bad they havent taken action even now. By action I mean defrocking and outing these g@y 'clergymen'

      July 11, 2012 at 10:17 am |
  10. lember

    "Vatican reprimand sends American nun's book up bestseller list"

    Isn't because of our long degenerated Media?

    June 7, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
  11. Kindness

    Kindness
    For you.
    A thought to consider without a typical ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Let go and let god".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    June 7, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • Primewonk

      Spelling fail.

      Syntax fail.

      Punctuation fail.

      Grammar fail.

      Logic fail.

      Epic fail.

      In the immortal words of Dean Wormer, "Son, fat, drunk, and stupid, is no way to go through life".

      June 7, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • derp

      I think he even failed at faiiling

      June 7, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • yeahalright

      translation: I have a very detailed and vivid imagination and so can you!

      June 7, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  12. McFly El Hammerstein

    The Vatican reprimands some silly old ladies! OOOOOoh, harsh news! One of these days, they'll catch the pope eating crap directly out of some other dude's butt and someone will post pictures of it online and then we'll see the truth.

    June 7, 2012 at 5:29 am |
  13. WWJD


    ATHEISTS UNWITTINGLY OBEY AND WORSHIP SATAN WITHOUT EVEN REALIZING IT

    Few 100% true Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things:

    † Atheism is a religion that makes you stupid, ignorant & blind.
    † Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
    † Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet Atheists)
    † Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
    † Atheists causes problem in our religious society.
    † Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
    † Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
    † Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Hitler (Denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders.
    † No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling 'outsider'
    † Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.
    † Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
    † Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
    † Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
    † Most Atheists are uneducated... No Atheists could run for presidency.
    † Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
    † Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
    † All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
    † The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
    † Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!
    **Only 2-3% of the U.S. are Atheists/Agnostics VS. over 90% who believe in God (80% Christians) in the U.S.**

    † † Our Prayers goes to Atheists to be mentally healthy and seek their creator † †

    ATHEISTS WILL BURN IN HELLFIRE AND BRIMSTONE WHERE THEY BELONG WHEN JESUS RAPTURES ALL CHRISTIANS AND THEN ARRIVES ON HIS WHITE HORSE AND SLAUGHTERS ALL ATHEISTS AND THEIR CHILDREN IN ARMAGEDDON WITHOUT ATHEISTS THERE WILL BE FINALLY PEACE FOR ALL MANKIND

    ATHEIST ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR PLANETS DRUG PROBLEMS AND CHILD SLAVE LABOR AND DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR SKIN BOILED OFF IN HELL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY

    June 7, 2012 at 2:33 am |
    • Burning Whizzer

      Thanks for this delightful fap material.

      June 7, 2012 at 3:01 am |
    • derp

      WWJD?

      He'd blow me

      June 7, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • yeahalright

      What's it like to be so stunningly stupid?

      June 7, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Shrink

      Thank yu. I needed a good laugh today.

      June 7, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Wrenn_NYC

      Nothing original here, just a copy/paste, move along.

      June 8, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Yakima

      Funny crap...I bet you believe in talking snakes and magic men in sky too !

      June 8, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • YeahRight

      Atheism is a religion that makes you stupid, ignorant & blind. -LIE
      Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated. -LIE
      Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet Atheists) -LIE
      Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle. -LIE
      Atheists causes problem in our religious society. -LIE
      Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith. -LIE
      Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise. -LIE
      Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Hitler (Denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders. -LIE
      No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling 'outsider' -LIE
      Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime. -LIE
      Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet. -LIE
      Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people. -LIE
      Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved. -LIE
      Most Atheists are uneducated... No Atheists could run for presidency. -LIE
      Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history. -LIE
      Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists. -LIE
      All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals. -LIE
      The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20) -LIE
      Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism! -LIE

      It just goes to show that Christians can’t even follow one of the basic Ten Commandments by posting all these lies. What a hypocrite

      June 8, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • me

      Calling atheism a religion is like saying 'not smoking' is a habit.

      June 11, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Jim

      True Christians do not wish Hell on anyone, but - for those who go there, the really frightening aspect IT IS FOREVER.

      June 11, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
  14. Burning Whizzer

    Another book I won't read. Not because I agree with the catholics or whatever, but because I don't care. Too bad people haven't bulldozed the vatican.

    June 7, 2012 at 1:27 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Why should they bulldoze it? Just because you and others who are not Catholic do not like them? Everyone from the late Bin Laden, to Hugo Chavez felt that folks should over throw the US Government. Should we do such because those from the outside looking in want to see us fall? Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map and the list goes on and on.

      Try this, find a way to co-exist.

      June 7, 2012 at 1:37 am |
    • Burning Whizzer

      Try this: Quit being a pansy, and shove it.

      June 7, 2012 at 1:43 am |
    • manomanychin

      marky mark is just a pseudo christian troll with nothin better to do but flip flop from being a bitter hateful racist and anti gay one minute and the next is telling people to coexist dont listen to this worthless troll

      June 7, 2012 at 1:49 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Shove it? Is that your best responce. I would think you can at least offer up a decent counter argument.

      ==

      Mano, these days folks are stealing handles all of the time. My position has been clear all of the time. I say that I have gone to services at a Gay and Lesbian church, and surprise , surprise...someone, early on a Saturday morning post under my name with anti-gay comments.

      I am not going to harp on it more to say read the number of my post. Read where Atheist that day, even some such as TomTom had their names stolen in the same manner. If you want to play into those types hands then I can not stop you other than to keep posting in hope of peace and tolerance and a break from the extremist on both sides.

      June 7, 2012 at 2:07 am |
    • Burning Whizzer

      Yes Mark, I said shove it. That's about the extent I'm willing to offer you in rebuttal as it eloquently equates to your worth. In other words, you aren't worth the time of day (or night in this case).

      By the way, it's response. Run a goddamn spell check next time.

      June 7, 2012 at 3:00 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      >>>"Yes Mark, I said shove it. That's about the extent I'm willing to offer you in rebuttal as it eloquently equates to your worth."

      Ok. I think you are wrong. Well on both accounts. I do not think you could get a argument out of your view so name calling was a last resort. Also I factor my worth, not really here for a popularity contest.

      Good try, flame wars are so boring and easy. You insult me and I insult you. Figuring a way past you folks is more important. Unless you are planning to go kill all those who are Catholics then all you have is a dream. Same as the Pastor who dreams of quarantining Gays and Lesbians. Yall on the extremes... all we have to do is look at your words and all we hear are echos of the extremes on the other side. And as I said, it is always us in the middle caught in yall's crossfire.

      Basically, society is growing tired of folks like you Whizzer. All of you who promote destruction of others who dare to say they are different than you. I am mature enough though to realize that your types will always be with us. The difference is that someone has to speak out.

      June 7, 2012 at 3:19 am |
    • Burning Whizzer

      That's what you get for "thinking." After I saw where you stated, "I think," I stopped reading, hit reply, and that's where we are today. The rest of your post just wasn't worth reading. Thanks for wasting your painfully invaluable time.

      June 7, 2012 at 4:28 am |
    • derp

      "Shove it? Is that your best responce. I would think you can at least offer up a decent counter argument"

      Would "blow me" be more apropos ?

      June 7, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Derp. Its not a thing of appropriate I think yall are looking for. More like, what can we say to get this guy mad enough at us to respond in kind. No flame war on this day, you lose.

      Sorry guys, you got the wrong person. :)

      June 7, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Burning Whizzer

      I don't care if you're mad or not. The whole point is that you need to piss off.

      June 8, 2012 at 2:25 am |
  15. rftallent

    It was the,Vatican that drew attention to the subject. I had never heard of the book or its author but I'll be sure to read it now.

    June 6, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • Mark From Middle River

      Try this....are not the earnings of Nuns considered funds of all of the convent or order they are attached to? Could this be just by design.

      June 7, 2012 at 1:30 am |
    • manomanychin

      marky mark the pretend middle river is just a pseudo christian troll with nothin better to do but flip flop from being a bitter hateful racist and anti gay one minute and the next is telling people to coexist dont listen to this worthless troll

      June 7, 2012 at 1:49 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Ok Mano. If you see me as flip flopping then show me.

      June 7, 2012 at 2:09 am |
  16. Heretic

    Back in 1616 Galileo Galilei had a best seller too, when the Catholic Church reprimended him for disagreeing that the earth was the center of the Universe. Did that issue ever get resolved??
    Just wondering...

    June 6, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Drew

      It did, the vatican acknowledged that they made a mistake

      June 6, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • derp

      "It did, the vatican acknowledged that they made a mistake"

      Yeah, 300 years later.

      June 7, 2012 at 10:39 am |
  17. Reality

    Way beyond the nun's book and the Vatican:

    ONLY FOR NEW MEMBERS OF THIS BLOG:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    June 6, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • rftallent

      That wasn't even entertaining.

      June 7, 2012 at 1:15 am |
    • Reality

      The New Testament has only one major atrocity, that of god committing filicide assuming you believe in this Christian mumbo jumbo. Said atrocity should be enough to vitiate all of Christianity.

      June 7, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • Jim

      Wow, that's amazing, Reality - you are the only person on the planet that knows where Jesus is buried. Pray tell, where is that, as uninformed simpleton's have believed for 2,000 years that He rose from the dead.

      June 11, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
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