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June 15th, 2012
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Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Friday, June 15

By Laura Koran, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: FBI recovers rare first-edition of the Book of Mormon
Law enforcement agents have recovered a rare first-edition copy of the Book of Mormon that was reported stolen from a Mesa, Arizona, bookstore in late May. The FBI announced Thursday the religious book, first published in 1830 in New York, was located two days ago in Herndon, Virginia, and a suspect was arrested.

CNN: Bryce Harper’s ‘clown question’ quip speaks to Mormon prohibition on alcohol
Nineteen-year-old baseball phenom Bryce Harper isn’t known for drawing attention to his faith – he’s kinda the anti-Tim Tebow in that way – but he didn’t hide his dismay Tuesday when thrown a question that intersected squarely with his Mormonism. A Toronto reporter asked Harper, a Washington Nationals outfielder, whether he’d have a beer to celebrate a whopper of a home run and the Nationals’ win against the Blue Jays, taking advantage of Ontario’s lower drinking age. Harper’s response: “That’s a clown question, bro.” The quip quickly blew up on the Internet.

Tweet of the Day:

Belief on TV:

Enlightening Reads:

The National Catholic Reporter: Bishops told religious liberty is in growing 'global crisis'
There is an increasing "global crisis" of "government restrictions on religion and social hostilities toward religion," an expert on religious liberty told the U.S. bishops Wednesday during their spring national meeting in Atlanta.

The Chicago Tribune: Islamic conference loses area venue for 3rd time in 4 years
In what has become a near-annual ritual in the Chicago suburbs, a conference promoted by a fringe Islamic organization has drawn suspicion, complaints and ultimately a cancellation. Hizb ut-Tahrir America, a group that advocates for countries to be ruled by Islamic law, had planned to hold its Khilafah Conference 2012 on Sunday at The Meadows Club in Rolling Meadows. But some conservatives, including former Republican presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann, stirred protest over the meeting, saying the group was promoting an anti-American agenda.

The Hill: In God we trust?
Edwina Rogers refuses to name names. If the executive director of the Secular Coalition for America knows which members of Congress aren’t religious, she isn’t telling. Her organization, an advocacy group representing a growing number of nontheistic Americans, recently conducted a silent poll of members of Congress about their faith and personal beliefs. And according to Rogers, 28 of the 535 lawmakers claimed they did not personally believe in a higher power.

USA Today: Domain name dash takes it to .church
LifeChurch.tv, the high-tech megachurch out of Oklahoma, entered the domain-name competition Wednesday, ponying up the $185,000 application fee in an effort to lay claim to .church as the Web faces a massive expansion of domains. But executive pastor Bobby Gruenewald, whose LifeChurch title is innovation leader, says the goal is not to profit from controlling the domain with fees for listing rights but to make Internet outreach easier and more accessible.

The Los Angeles Times: Perhaps we need some help with PR, say Catholic bishops in U.S.
There's no doubt that America's Roman Catholic bishops have had their share of what might quaintly be called bad press. The priest sex-abuse scandal, a Vatican crackdown on nuns, a head-knocking fight with the president of the United States over contraceptive coverage - none of these would qualify as good news. On Thursday, the bishops said they've had enough. It is time, they said, to beef up their public relations arsenal.

Religion News Service: Atheists challenge the tax exemption for religious groups
How much money does the U.S. government forgo by not taxing religious institutions? According to a University of Tampa professor, perhaps as much as $71 billion a year. Ryan Cragun, an assistant professor of sociology, and two students examined U.S. tax laws to estimate the total cost of tax exemptions for religious institutions - on property, donations, business enterprises, capital gains and “parsonage allowances,” which permit clergy to deduct housing costs.

Opinion of the Day:

CNN: My Take: More doubts about God doesn't mean religion is weakening
Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "The American Bible: How Our Words Unite, Divide, and Define a Nation," gives his take on a recent survey by the Pew Research Center, which shows a sharp increase in the number of millenials who doubt the existence of God.

Join the conversation…

Minister-turned-atheist Jerry DeWitt speaks at ReasonFest in Kansas earlier this year.

CNN: Unbelieving preachers get help to 'come out' as open atheists
Jerry DeWitt entered the ministry when he was 17, launching a 25-year career as a Pentecostal preacher. He traveled all around his home state of Louisiana, preaching and ministering wherever he could. All these years later, DeWitt, 42, is still on the road, and now takes his message all over the United States. But the nature of that message, along with his audience, has changed dramatically.

- CNN's Laura Koran

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soundoff (54 Responses)
  1. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things

    June 16, 2012 at 8:56 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!.!

      June 17, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
  2. Slightly Angry Jesus

    THE END IS NEAR.................say this each day for 2000 + years....yep it is still near.

    June 15, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Seeing as how the scientists have been telling for years that 10,000 years is just a blink compared to the total age of the Earth, I'd say that the end being near for the past 2,000 years is right on track.....

      June 15, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Believers, whether of local cult or widespread religion can always find a way to define their claims just outside the argument presented, as b4bigbang demonstrates, here.

      June 15, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • Church Lady

      b4bigbang:
      Seeing as how the scientists have been telling for years that 10,000 years is just a blink compared to the total age of the Earth, I'd say that the end being near for the past 2,000 years is right on track.....

      --

      And we all know how smart you are, b3.

      June 16, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
  3. Answer

    Religious nuts all preaching the end times once again.. how typical. Let's see what tomorrow will be like. XD

    June 15, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.
    Proof of prayer working at prolapsed.net.

    June 15, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      A tale told by an idiot – full of sound and fury and signifying nothing.

      June 15, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • .

      give it a rest you moron. prolapsed.net – 3 Hotties Make A Prolapse Party!

      Grow up.

      June 15, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Jesus

      "Prayer changes things."

      You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      June 15, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  5. Bob

    Robert Brown, your "loving" god would be anything but "loving" if it actually existed, so good thing it doesn't. Look into the eyes of a suffering victim of any of the multiple disfiguring, debilitating, painful diseases that your "loving" god has purportedly created, or those of a starving innocent child in Africa. Then you might understand that Christian god as described in the bible is not loving, doesn't give a hoot about human suffering, and in fact does not exist.

    Really, take a look at the awful things that your god demands of you or does to poor creatures in the Christian book of horrors AKA the bible, both OT and NT:

    Numbers 31:17-18
    17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
    18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

    Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

    Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

    Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

    And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

    So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    June 15, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bob, the reasons you don't understand Jesus' spiritual truth is you don't want to comprehend His spiritual truth and you have no eyes to see nor ears to hear His spiritual truth. Both the OT and NT enhance each other. The OT tells of God and the NT tells of Jesus coming to earth walking in the flesh ... both explain His truth about life and the hereafter. The reason you still have complaints (yawn) about His truth is you have issues you need to deal with due to loving and following satan's lies.

      June 15, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
    • Goddidit

      OT law does not apply anymore

      Looks like you don't know as much as you claim.Thats not "cherry picking",it's actually true for Christians as we aren't jews nor early Jews

      June 16, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
    • Church Lady

      How conveeeeeenient for you, herbie!

      June 16, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
  6. Chad

    I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: 'I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God.' That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic - on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg - or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.

    C.S. Lewis – Mere Christianity,

    June 15, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Ohhh somethig from C.S. Lewis. That must mean something right? Oh wait, no it doesn't.

      June 15, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they [are] vanity.

      Psalms 94:11

      Amen.

      June 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @HeavenSent

      Bible verses are meaningless drivel.

      June 15, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      His truth has already been written.

      Revelation 13:4-9

      Amen.

      June 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Another good example of your own idiocy. You make my job way to easy HeavenSent.

      June 15, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      But he could have been a normal guy who became a legend–like happens all the friggin time. Che Guvera, anyone? Besides, if he was christ then he lied about the flood having occurred. That just don't make sense.

      June 15, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
  7. IslandAtheist

    What The Secular Student Alliance Offers Students
    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d8nFJVfk1o&w=640&h=360]

    June 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Goddidit

      Case closed!

      See I can make claims just like atheists can.I can't prove it but neither can they prove they are one's right

      June 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Same ole same ole ...

      The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they [are] vanity.

      Psalms 94:11

      Amen.

      June 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm |
  8. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    June 15, 2012 at 11:16 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Learn how prayer changes things at prolapsed.net. See the face of god.

      June 15, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      June 15, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven
      By Jesus

      June 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Jesus

      No, you are a proven LIAR – Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      June 15, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      See proof of prayer working at prolapsed.net. I visit that site daily for confirmation of Jesus' love, you should too.

      June 15, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • Answer

      I suggest to everyone that they should and then laugh at their attempts. Everyone loves watching failures happen.

      June 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • Religion is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer Changes NOTHING. Positive actions change things! Prayer is useless. Getting off your bum and helping people changes things! Believing an imaginary being will solve your problems for you is is a damaging DELUSION! People need to learn how to help themselves and help others! Believing that a magical fairy will make your pathelic life better is a self-limiting fantasy! Opening your eyes to reality and facing your problems is very constructive and makes you a better person. Prayer does not.

      June 18, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  9. Hypatia

    Translation of the Nat'l Catholic Reporter article: "We're not getting to run the political side of stuff. Knock it off and put us back in charge with a kinder, gentler Inquisition."

    June 15, 2012 at 11:14 am |
  10. Huebert

    Apparently the speed read has become the favorite haunt of the spamers.

    June 15, 2012 at 10:43 am |
  11. Jack

    No Gods? Check out thestarofkaduri.com

    June 15, 2012 at 9:39 am |
    • Gods god

      Also check out Jack's homepage, prolapsed.net. It is all about the second coming of our lord and savior, Jesus!

      June 15, 2012 at 10:06 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      “Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.”
      —1 John 2:18
      Christians have been waiting on tenterhooks for the Second Coming since the Bible itself was written.
      Many have prophesied the exact time of date of His return and ALL have been wrong.
      George Rapp said it would be September 15th, 1829.
      William Miller predicted October 22, 1844. Jesus’ failure to arrive is known as “The Great Disappointment”. Many of his disillusioned followers went on the found the 7th Day Adventist Church, who are still patiently awaiting His return.
      Charles Russell, 1st President of the Watchtower Society told his fellow Jehovah’s Witnesses that Jesus would be back in 1874.
      Rudolf Steiner maintained that from 1930 onwards, Jesus would grant certain people psychic powers to enable them to witness his presence in the “etheric plane”.
      Herbert Armstrong, Pastor General of the Worldwide Church of God said 1975.
      Bill Maupin managed to convince his followers to sell all of their worldly goods in preparation for Jesus’ return on June 28th, 1981.
      Benjamin Crème stated that on June 21st, 1982 Christ would make a worldwide television announcement.
      Mark Blitz, Pastor of El Shaddai Ministries says it would be September 30th, 2008
      Jerry Falwell said it’d happen between 1999 and 2009.
      Harold Camping told everyone that the Rapture would happen May 21, 2011 after failing in his first predicted date of 1994.

      Conversely, many believe He’s all ready come in the form of Sun Myung Moon, Emanuel Swedenborg, Baha u llah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, David Koresh, Hailie Selassie, John Thom, Arnold Potter, William Davies, George roux, Ernest Norman, Krishna Venta, Ahn Sahng-Hong, Jim Jones, Mashall Applewhite, Hulon Mitchell, Wayne Bent, Ariffin Mohammed, Mitsuo Matayoshi, Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda, Inri Cristo, Thomas Provenzano, David Icke, Shoko Asahara, Hogan Fukinaga, Marina Tsvigun or Sergei Troop.

      It would appear that the much lauded Jewish carpenter has been thoroughly dead for 2000 years and will remain so.

      June 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Matthew 24:36
      But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

      June 15, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Robert Brown
      But the Bible DID give a pretty good general time line, which has long passed.
      “Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.”
      —1 John 2:18
      "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
      Matthew 24:34
      The biblical definition of a generation can be found in Psalm 90.
      "The years of our lives are 70; and if by reason of strength they be 80 years, yet most of them are labor and sorrow; for life is soon cut off and we fly away."
      26 Psalms 90:10
      This is confirmed in the Gospel of Matthew.
      "Therefore all the generations from Abraham down to David are 14 generations; and from David down to the Babylonian captivity are 14 generations; and from the Babylonian captivity down to messiah, are 14 generations."
      – Matthew 1:17
      Matthew is using the Psalm 90 definitions of Generation in order to tell a specific chronological story, establishing that the 2nd Coming was supposed to have happened somewhere around 1900 years ago.

      June 15, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Bob

      Robert Brown, since you are constantly shoving bible quotes at us, let's take a look at the awful things that your god actually demands of you or does to poor creatures in the Christian book of horrors AKA the bible, both OT and NT:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      June 15, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Doc,
      32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
      33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
      34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
      This generation shall not pass, till everything will happen which is a predictor of the second coming. I take it to mean that even when he was telling it he wanted them to know it could happen at any time. Just like much of his other preaching and teaching, always be ready for you know not when… Although, I can see how you could interpret it to mean he was coming back before that generation was over. Of course, when they died, the lord came for them, then.

      June 15, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Isaiah 55:8-9

      For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

      For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

      Amen.

      June 15, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
  12. Kindness

    This is my experience... Thank you.

    MY personal testimony.
    A thought to consider without an ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    Romans 10:9

    "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

    June 15, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • Know God

      God hates your pedo soul. Burn in hell skeet gobbler

      June 15, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • TROLL ALERT

      click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL so they'll block their IP address and they can't continue posting this garbage over and over again.

      June 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  13. Bo

    Dan Gilgoff reported the indecent that Bruce Harper of the Washing Nationals was asked by a Torranto news reporter if he would be drinking any beer with his fellow baseball players in celebration of winning a game against the the Blue Jays and he replied that it was a “clown question”.

    Laura Korand says that answer, “blew up on the Internet”. I wonder what she is reading that we are not reading: with only 97 seven comments on this blog, I hardly consider that a “blow up”. What is she trying to do, make a mountain of a molehill? Come on Laura, nobody really cared, and most people think as I d that his reply was just skirting the question because he didn't want to give a direct answer to the question in fear of criticism from the Mormon Church of which he is a member, because without much doubt he probably would be participating in the celebration and drinking a beer also.

    I would have had no problem answering the question, because, aside from my religious convictions I wouldn't drink the crap anyway, it tastes like garbage to me, and I don't like garbage! To me, all alcoholic beverages taste like garbage!

    June 15, 2012 at 8:57 am |
    • No Gods

      That's why your a bore.

      June 15, 2012 at 9:12 am |
    • Bo

      @ No Gods: Why I don't like beer of any other alcoholic beverage? Well, before I was a Christian, when I was a kid, and before we had garbage disposals, garbage was collected in a bucket under the sink and at the end of the day it was taken out and thrown in the incinerator to be burned: it was one of my chores to do that little task and I disliked it. To me, beer and other alcoholic beverages smell just like that garbage. Taste is about 80% smell, but I have tasted the crap!

      Go ahead, drink the crap if you wish, I have no objections, although I don't like to smell it on somebody's breath. It stills smells like garbage.

      June 15, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • Gods god

      You tasted crap? Like human sh•t? Foul.

      June 15, 2012 at 10:15 am |
  14. Robert Brown

    If you are thirsty, come and drink water! If you don’t have any money, come, eat what you want! Drink wine and milk without paying a cent. Why waste your money on what really isn’t food? Why work hard for something that doesn’t satisfy? Listen carefully to me, and you will enjoy the very best foods. Pay close attention! Come to me and live. I will promise you the eternal love and loyalty that I promised David. I made him the leader and ruler of the nations; he was my witness to them. You will call out to nations you have never known. And they have never known you, but they will come running because I am the Lord, the holy God of Israel, and I have honored you. Turn to the Lord! He can still be found. Call out to God! He is near. Give up your crooked ways and your evil thoughts. Return to the Lord our God. He will be merciful and forgive your sins. The Lord says: “My thoughts and my ways are not like yours. Just as the heavens are higher than the earth, my thoughts and my ways are higher than yours. “Rain and snow fall from the sky. But they don’t return without watering the earth that produces seeds to plant and grain to eat. That’s how it is with my words. They don’t return to me without doing everything I send them to do.” When you are set free, you will celebrate and travel home in peace. Mountains and hills will sing as you pass by, and trees will clap. Cypress and myrtle trees will grow in fields once covered by thorns. And then those trees will stand as a lasting witness to the glory of the Lord.

    June 15, 2012 at 8:41 am |
    • Bob

      Stuff it, Robert Brown. Your "loving" god would be anything but "loving" if it actually existed, so good thing it doesn't. Look into the eyes of a suffering victim of any of the multiple disfiguring, debilitating, painful diseases that your "loving" god has purportedly created, or those of a starving innocent child in Africa. Then you might understand that Christian god as described in the bible is not loving, doesn't give a hoot about human suffering, and in fact does not exist.

      Really, take a look at the awful things that your god demands of you or does to poor creatures in the Christian book of horrors AKA the bible, both OT and NT:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      June 15, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bob, you still have issues you need to attend to if you still have issues with God's truth about life and the hereafter.

      June 15, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
  15. junior

    Solemnity of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus

    Today's reading:
    Gospel Jn 19:31-37

    Since it was preparation day,
    in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath,
    for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one,
    the Jews asked Pilate that their legs be broken
    and they be taken down.
    So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first
    and then of the other one who was crucified with Jesus.
    But when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead,
    they did not break his legs,
    but one soldier thrust his lance into his side,
    and immediately blood and water flowed out.
    An eyewitness has testified, and his testimony is true;
    he knows that he is speaking the truth,
    so that you also may come to believe.
    For this happened so that the Scripture passage might be fulfilled:
    Not a bone of it will be broken.
    And again another passage says:
    They will look upon him whom they have pierced.

    June 15, 2012 at 8:36 am |
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