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June 18th, 2012
04:27 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Monday, June 18

By Laura Koran, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: White House receives political cover on immigration from religious groups
President Barack Obama is receiving political cover for his decision to stop deporting some young illegal immigrants from two big groups with whom his relations have been rocky: evangelical Christians and Catholics. “We do give credit where credit is due,” said Kevin Appleby, director of Migration and Public Affairs for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, on Friday, when Obama made his announcement.

CNN: My Faith: How Jesus saved my dad and my family
This article was adapted from “Kingdom Man” by Dr. Tony Evans, Senior Pastor of Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship in Dallas and president of The Urban Alternative.

Belief on TV:

Enlightening Reads:

The New York Times: Southern Baptists Set for a Notable First
The Southern Baptist Convention, a denomination born in 1845 in defense of slavery and a spiritual home to white supremacists for much of the 20th century, is poised to elect its first African-American president. The Rev. Fred Luter Jr., 55, a New Orleans pastor who got his start preaching on the streets of the Lower Ninth Ward, is expected to be the only candidate for office on Tuesday when Southern Baptists gather here for their annual meeting.

The Huffington Post: Southern Jewish Communities Recruit Newcomers, Offer Incentives As Populations Dwindle
On a recent Tuesday night at Rojos, a trendy Mexican restaurant on the south side of the city, a group of women were kicking off an unusual welcome party for someone they'd never met. Their guest of honor: Lisa Pataky, a 25-year-old student who was new to town, trying out a summer internship and considering moving to Birmingham full-time. Around her were supporters of the Birmingham Jewish Federation, peppering her with reasons to stay: abundant jobs, lack of traffic, low cost-of-living, and - most important - a friendly, tight-knit community of 5,200 Jews spread among five congregations.

The Washington Post: Key Catholic Obama ally shifts position, opposes contraception mandate
The White House has lost perhaps its most prominent Catholic ally in its controversial effort to expand contraception coverage, with the huge Catholic Health Association saying Friday that the mandate for most religious employers to offer coverage would not “adequately meet the religious liberty concerns.”

Haaretz: Israel mulls annulment of law requiring parents, adopted kids to share same religion
A bill that would scrap the requirement that parents be the same religion as the child they adopt will be debated Sunday by the Ministerial Committee for Legislation. The proposed law, submitted by MK Nitzan Horowitz (Meretz ), would end the de facto discrimination between secular and religious Jews who adopt children.

Reuters: DNA bolsters Bulgaria’s claim to have John the Baptist bone relics
Bulgaria’s claim to have unearthed six bones belonging to John the Baptist has received a boost from scientists who have concluded after dating them and analyzing their genetic code that they could indeed be relics of the man who baptized Jesus. The remains, which include a molar and a piece of cranium, were found in July 2010 in a marble sarcophagus in the ruins of a medieval church on the island of Sveti Ivan, or Saint John, off Bulgaria’s Black Sea coast near the resort of Sozopol.

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency: Lawsuit accuses Hebrew National of unkosher practices
A lawsuit filed against Hebrew National alleged that its hot dogs and other products are not actually kosher. The class-action suit, filed in May in a federal court in Minnesota, accuses ConAgra Foods — the business designation of Hebrew National that is certified kosher by Triangle K — of several transactions that would render the meat being processed as not kosher.

Quote of the Day:

The biggest problems that atheists face in this country all go back to the fact that we're closeted. People don't know how many atheists there are in this country. There are more atheists than Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists combined, and doubled.

David Silverman, president of American Atheists, on his organization’s efforts to make atheists more open about their non-belief. Read more here.

Opinion of the Day:

CNN: My Take: How I constructed 'The American Bible'
Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar regular CNN Belief Blog contributor writes about his new book, "The American Bible: How Our Words Unite, Divide, and Define a Nation."

Join the conversation…

The FBI recovered a stolen first-edition of the Book of Mormon.

CNN: FBI recovers rare first-edition of the Book of Mormon
Law enforcement agents have recovered a rare first-edition copy of the Book of Mormon that was reported stolen from a Mesa, Arizona, bookstore in late May. The FBI announced Thursday the religious book, first published in 1830 in New York, was located two days ago in Herndon, Virginia, and a suspect was arrested.

- CNN's Laura Koran

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soundoff (59 Responses)
  1. BriSoFla

    Happy Gay Pride Month Everyone!

    See how relevant that is to the above article? It isn't obviously and so are 99% of the comments made on these boards. If you have nothing nice to say, close your browser, shut your computer down, go outside and have a nice day.

    June 19, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
  2. Hahaha

    Christians see God as sitting on a throne.
    The only other thing that sits on a throne are humans.
    What a strange coincidence!
    What could this mean?

    June 18, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      It means man follows what God has and non-believers want to be there own mini-god.

      June 18, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • Blind leading the blind.

      I sit on a porcelain throne everyday and the same thing I leave in the toilet is the same thing in the bible is full of. Go figure.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
  3. Chuckles

    For the believer:

    Describe what heaven will look like please. I ask only because every seems to "know" heaven exists but everyone seems to have a different definition, so please help me define it.

    June 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Revelation 21:
      The glory of God made the city bright. It was dazzling and crystal clear like a precious jasper stone. 12 The city had a high and thick wall with twelve gates, and each one of them was guarded by an angel. On each of the gates was written the name of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13 Three of these gates were on the east, three were on the north, three more were on the south, and the other three were on the west. 14 The city was built on twelve foundation stones. On each of the stones was written the name of one of the Lamb’s twelve apostles. 15 The angel who spoke to me had a gold measuring stick to measure the city and its gates and its walls. 16 The city was shaped like a cube, because it was just as high as it was wide. When the angel measured the city, it was about fifteen hundred miles high and fifteen hundred miles wide. 17 Then the angel measured the wall, and by our measurements it was about two hundred sixteen feet high. 18 The wall was built of jasper, and the city was made of pure gold, clear as crystal. 19 Each of the twelve foundations was a precious stone. The first was jasper,[c] the second was sapphire, the third was agate, the fourth was emerald, 20 the fifth was onyx, the sixth was carnelian, the seventh was chrysolite, the eighth was beryl, the ninth was topaz, the tenth was chrysoprase, the eleventh was jacinth, and the twelfth was amethyst. 21 Each of the twelve gates was a solid pearl. The streets of the city were made of pure gold, clear as crystal. 22 I did not see a temple there. The Lord God All-Powerful and the Lamb were its temple. 23 And the city did not need the sun or the moon. The glory of God was shining on it, and the Lamb was its light.

      June 18, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • Peter

      "Revelation 21:"

      You can't be serious. You actually think that it's true, it's called someone had an imagination, doesn't prove it's real.

      June 18, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Answer

      @Robert Brown

      Who is responsible for the garbage cleanup in heaven?

      June 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Answer

      Would you have a job to do up in heaven?

      How much would god pay you for your employment?

      June 18, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      You can get a little taste of heaven here on earth. Interested?

      June 18, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Bo

      It seems strange to me that almost all unbelievers have read the Bible, and they seem to pick on the negative things, which, for the most part, they misinterpret, but when it comes to the positive things it seems as though they have completely skipped over them.
      To begin with, we only have a brief description of heaven, but heaven will not be our eternal home, earth will be. Earth will be made new. From the beginning God intended Earth to be our home. We only have a brief description of the earth made new, but enough to satisfy.
      Yes, we will have work to do, we will build, we will plant, we will harvest. The work we do will be for out own benefit, not necessary for others, but I'm sure we will share. The work will not be a drudgery, but it will be pleasant, we will enjoy the work we will be given to do. I don't know exactly how to say this, but something like this, the work we do now is the result of sin, that doesn't mean that it has to be unpleasant or wrong, but, for most part, monetary gain is driven in by need, want and greed.
      To be sure, there are many jobs that we have now that will be eliminated. There will be no need for the medical industry and all that is affiliated with it. We will not need any law enforcement and all that is connected with it. We will not need politicians, for God will be our King. In short, any employment that is needed now as the direct or indirect result of sin will not be needed: that covers a wide range of careers.
      P.S. I,m sure we will not need “garbage collectors: garbage is one of the results of sin.
      If you can, Chuckles, try to imagine this life without sin, and you will have a discription of heaven and the new earth.

      June 18, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Bo

      It's not so much that things in the bible is negative. It is more that the bible is contradictory, mysoginistic, inaccurate historically, and all together illogical.

      June 18, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bo, good post. Most true Christians that study His truth know that there is no such thing as the rapture. When scriptures say we will meet in the air ... it means, that we will be back in spiritual form on earth when Jesus comes back. Heaven is where Jesus' is. Jesus is spiritual and when we meet and reside with Him, it will be in our spiritual bodies again which is what we truly are is why the meek shall inherit the earth.

      June 18, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      HawaiiGuest, you really should stop listening to the libbers out there.

      June 18, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      True Christians hear Gods voice. True Christians ar elike me.

      Amen.

      June 18, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    • LOL!

      "it will be in our spiritual bodies again which is what we truly are is why the meek shall inherit the earth."

      Seeing how earth's milky-way is on a collision course with another milky-way, that definitely ain't gonna happen. 😉

      June 18, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @HeavenSent

      Don't know what a "libber" is, but I do know that you're "arguments' for god are always idiotic.

      June 18, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      HawaiiGuest, ditto for your posts.

      June 18, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
    • sam

      I hope an asteroid hits us and obliterates this freaking planet. Humanity is a scourge.

      June 18, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @HeavenSent

      What a wonderful comeback, what are you gonna bring next?

      June 18, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Atheism is a religion

      You won't know unless you die and go there..no human words can describe it

      June 18, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
    • Answer

      You first then.. show us the way. Through example.

      June 18, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
  4. Hypatia

    Well, that was the daily downer for the day....

    June 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  5. Laurence Ringo

    Out of all the postings on this site today,I found"Derp's"post the most fascinating and informative,as well as deeply revealing.Even after boasting of what seems to be a practically perfect live by any measure,he informs us that he takes pleasure in mocking and ridiculing those of faith who are presumably his opposite;I can only wonder if,given all his supposed accomplishments,he is smart enough to realize how deeply revealing of his true character his remarks are.As a believer,I rarely engage in arguments with my atheist friends,and like to think I wouldn't lower myself to the level of juvenile name-calling and personal attacks against whatever my atheist friends hold dear.Most of the time we simply agree to disagree;when they hold forth with misinformation or ignorance on their assumed"knowledge"of my faith,I try to gently correct them;I certainly don't allow any disagreements we have to devolve into hateful insults and name-calling.I find the unremitting hostility and animus of atheists like"Derp" baffling;for all the seemingly wonderful life he is enjoying,he seems compelled to get on this site and spew derision,mockery,and hatred against others.I simply do not,cannot grasp that mindset;to claim to actually derive pleasure from in effect being a bully-again,that say a whole lot about his true character.So...Peace & Love to all!!

    June 18, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • derp

      Blow me!!!

      June 18, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • derp

      I'll stop ridiculing you tards when you stop telling I'm going to burn in hell for all eternity.

      Do you believe in Santa Claus too?

      June 18, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      @derp: Don't know about the others here but i definitely believe in Santa. It's my Dad.
      What's the matter, didnt you ever get anything from Santa?
      I'm very sorry – must've been rough.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • derp

      "Don't know about the others here but i definitely believe in Santa. It's my Dad.
      What's the matter, didnt you ever get anything from Santa?
      I'm very sorry – must've been rough"

      Brilliant retort.

      That is arguably the lamest comment I have ever read on the internet.

      Nice work f@g.

      June 19, 2012 at 9:12 am |
  6. kindness

    MY personal testimony.
    A thought to consider without an ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    Romans 10:9

    "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

    June 18, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • TROLL ALERT

      click the report abuse link to get rid of this garbage and this TROLL! Don't bother reading it, it's not worth your time.

      June 18, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
  7. Atheism is a religion

    Case is closed!

    June 18, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • You are wrong

      Case Closed.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:16 am |
    • Off is a TV Channel

      One of these three statements is true:

      Bald is a hair color.

      Not collecting stamps is a hobby.

      Christian god obviously does not exist.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • Atheism is a religion

      oooooo the first one!!!!

      June 18, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      @Off is a TV Channel: You're right – the Christian God obviously does not exist in your heart.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
  8. guest 4 2 day

    After I read the article by Evans, it occurred to me that perhaps one of the many reasons that there is so much hate, ridicule and criticism generated by Satan and spewed by the non-believers on this forum is because in a small way they can witness the hope and peace of mind that believers have and for some reason they resent those that have that which they do not have, as did Evan's mother had for his father after he had accepted Jesus as his Lord and King and Savior. Evan's father, after accepting Jesus as his savior had peace of mind and and a love for others that was hard to understand, even his mother resented her husbands peace of mind and love that she did not have. Evan's father's faith was obviously not a “lazy man's” delusion as one poster said on this forum. He worked hard and was “tired” when he came home from work.
    I can easily imagine the resentful remarks that this post will generate, that is the way Satan works.

    June 18, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Thanks for your insight. You are correct that non-believers are miserable, think that what we know of Jesus will rub off on them if they get closer to us. Since, it doesn't work that way, they get angry and their destructive ways surface.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • Godless and happy

      Satan, god, Jesus, heaven and hell are not real. Sorry the truth hurts.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • sam stone

      And folks like HS are snivelling begging sycophants

      June 18, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • HeavenSent

      sam, go whine to someone that is willing to listen to your wimpy ways.

      Godless and miserable, we know you don't have eyes to see nor ears to hear His truth. What else can we expect from lazy perv-erts.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      "generated by Satan and spewed by the non-believers"

      Non-believers can't spew anything that you think your imaginary friend may be saying when we dismiss that your imaginary friend exists. We're non-believers for a reason...we do not believe...not just a disbelief in your god for which there is no evidence but anything remotely attached to your god-heaven, hell, satan, angels, etc.
      We'll believe when you provide the peer-reviewed evidence that any of those things exist or existed, until you can do that it remains your fairy tale.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:58 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Why does my finger small like a goat's rectum?

      Amen

      June 18, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    • HeavenSent

      TruthPrevailsnot, own the fact that you are all liars, cheats, thieves that are out for destruction of all that was built with righteousness in this country. Just note how your side of liars and cheats steal my handle so that Jesus' truth gets blocked.

      June 18, 2012 at 10:09 am |
    • Jesus' truth blocker

      "so that Jesus' truth gets blocked"

      jesus' truth gets blocked because he is a crummy football player. Look at him, dress wearing sandal toting, peacenik hippie who has never gotten any stink.

      He's a wuss, with all "love thy neighbor" garbage.

      He's probably a f ag.

      If he would toughen up a bit, his message wouldn't be so easily blocked.

      Oh, and you finger probably smells like a goat's rectum because that's where it was.

      June 18, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • A goat

      Hey, stop doing that.

      June 18, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Jesus' truth blocker, Jesus' truth gets blocked because you whiny loosers can't handle His truth. You're all a bunch of whiny cowards that have no jobs, complain about those that do, hate instructions of any form of positivity so you can continue loving the sins of your miserable, pathetic lives. I can't believe that is what the democratic party allows in to vote in this country as you flush the USA down the toilet, then move on to destroy another country.

      June 18, 2012 at 10:28 am |
    • HeavenSent

      All true believers know the truths of our lord can be read at prolapsed.net.

      June 18, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      HS: Miserable, cheat and liar are not definitive of me or my husband (AtheistSteve). Quite happy, live honest lives and speak the truth as it pertains to reality. You are cheating yourself out of the only life you are guaranteed of and lying about there being proof for your jesus and god. We base what we believe in off of evidence as it is presented to us/the world and as it is peer reviewed by experts. You base what you believe off of a single book that was written by man without inspiration from any form of higher power. Seems to me we are being the honest ones here. You continue living in your fantasy world, we'll continue to live in the 21st century.

      June 18, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • HeavenSent

      TruthPrevails, you being clueless to His truth gives you the right to bash Him. How is that for logical?

      June 18, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • guest 4 2 day

      @ Godless, And just what do you mean, “Sorry, the truth hurts.”? Are you insinuating that those who have found the love of God are hurting? Or is it that those that are denying the love of God are hurting? As for your statement, “Satan, god, Jesus and hell are not real.” You are correct so far as you are concerned.
      Example: One time my family were picnicking in a park in the city: there were buildings, people and civilization all around. I happened to be sitting across from and talking to my daughter in law when I noticed a deer crossing the wide expanse of a lawn, I exclaimed, “Look, there's a deer!” Everyone looked except my daughter I law. She refused to look stating “There is no deer.” Yes, for her there was no deer because she refused to believe.
      Likewise, for those who do not believe in God, there is no God.
      Yes, I can believe that you can be happy, happiness is a state of mind, all can have it; you can also love without believing in God, depending on your definition of love and you can have a peace of mind, depending on your understanding of “peace of mind”, however, there is a peace of mind with faith and love in God that those who do not have it can not comprehend.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • derp

      "You're all a bunch of whiny cowards that have no jobs, complain about those that do, hate instructions of any form of positivity so you can continue loving the sins of your miserable, pathetic lives. I can't believe that is what the democratic party allows in to vote"

      My atheist wife and I are actually 1%ers. We are in the highest progressive tax bracket, and have fantastic careers. We have been happily married for well over twenty years, have raised two wonderful, gainfully employed, tax paying law abiding young adult children. We own our home, paid for our own educations and are exceptionally happy.

      We simply do not share in the god delusion. From your posts on this forum, it seems like you are the angry unhappy person. I have everything I need in my life. I'm happy and healthy. I have a beautiful wonderful wife and two great kids. I have a fantastic career, travel all over the world, and make more money than most everyone you know. I just enjoy making fun of you delusional jesustards. You should take some comfort in knowing that your silly faith does bring some level of happiness into my life. I alway enjoy getting you bibletards a little twisted. it's like having my morning coffee. Thanks!!

      Oh, and I usually vote Republican.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • Robert Brown

      You are always making yourselves look good, but God sees what is in your heart. The things that most people think are important are worthless as far as God is concerned.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • derp

      I happened to be sitting across from and talking to my daughter in law when I noticed a unicorn crossing the wide expanse of a lawn, I exclaimed, “Look, there's a unicorn!” Everyone looked except my daughter I law. She refused to look stating “There is no unicorn.” Yes, for her there was no unicorn because she refused to believe.

      Comparing a deer to believing in a myth is disingenuous and intellectually bankrupt. Deer are real. You can look in my backyard and see them. Nobody has seen the supposed christ in over 2000 years of looking. Deer can be proven to exist, so your entire silly little analogy holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. It is a straw man bibletard ploy that has no basis in reality.

      Nice try though.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:14 am |
    • derp

      "however, there is a peace of mind with faith and love in God that those who do not have it can not comprehend"

      And there is an intellectual liberation that comes with letting go of iron age mythology that you cannot comprehend.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • Huebert

      You frame your argument in such a way that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically working for the devil. And you wonder why people call you a self righteous b@stard.

      June 18, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • b4bigbang

      Very good observation guest 4 2 day!

      June 18, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
  9. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    June 18, 2012 at 4:39 am |
    • ...

      living in lala land?

      June 18, 2012 at 6:58 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      June 18, 2012 at 10:33 am |
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