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June 22nd, 2012
11:27 AM ET

Prominent atheist blogger converts to Catholicism

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – She went from atheist to Catholic in just over 1,000 words.

Leah Libresco, who’d been a prominent atheist blogger for the religion website Patheos, announced on her blog this week that after years of debating many “smart Christians,” she has decided to become one herself, and that she has begun the process of converting to Catholicism.

Libresco, who had long blogged under the banner “Unequally Yoked: A geeky atheist picks fights with her Catholic boyfriend,” said that at the heart of her decision were questions of morality and how one finds a moral compass.

“I had one thing that I was most certain of, which is that morality is something we have a duty to,” Libresco told CNN in an interview this week, a small cross dangling from her neck. “And it is external from us. And when push came to shove, that is the belief I wouldn’t let go of. And that is something I can’t prove.”

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According to a Patheos post she wrote on Monday, entitled “This is my last post for the Patheos Atheist Portal,” she began to see parts of Christianity and Catholicism that fit her moral system. Though she now identifies as a Catholic, Libresco questions certain aspects of Catholicism, including the church’s positions on homosexuality, contraception and some aspects of religious liberty.

“There was one religion that seemed like the most promising way to reach back to that living Truth,” Libresco wrote about Catholicism in her conversion announcement post, which has been shared over 18,000 times on Facebook. “I asked my friend what he suggests we do now, and we prayed the night office of the Liturgy of the Hours together.”

At the end of the post, Libresco announces that she is in a Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults class and is preparing for baptism. She will continue to blog for Patheos, but under the banner, “A geeky convert picks fights in good faith.”

According to Dan Welch, director of marketing for Patheos, Libresco’s post has received around 150,000 page views so far.

“Leah's blog has gotten steadily more popular since she arrived at Patheos, but a typical post on her blog is probably closer to the range of 5,000 page views,” Welch wrote in an email. “Even now, a few days later, her blog is probably getting 20-30 times its normal traffic.”

Libresco’s announcement has left some atheists scratching their heads.

“I think atheists were surprised that she went with Catholicism, which seems like a very specific choice,” Hemant Mehta, an atheist blogger at Patheos, told CNN. “I have a hard time believing how someone could jump from I don’t believe in God to a very specific church and a very specific God.”

Mehta says that Libresco’s conversion is a “one-off thing” and not something that signals any trend in atheism. “The trends are very clear, the conversions from Catholicism to atheism are much more likely to happen than the other way around,” he said.

But while atheists were puzzled by the conversion, others commended Libresco.

“I know I’ve prayed for her conversion several times, always thinking she would make a great Catholic,” wrote Brandon Vogt, a Catholic blogger. “And with this news, it looks like that will happen. Today heaven is roaring with joy.”

Thomas L. McDonald, a Catholic Patheos blogger, welcomed Libresco to the fold: “Welcome. I know this was hard, and will continue to be so. Don’t worry if the Catholics make it as for difficult for you as the atheists. We only do it to people we love.”

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Libresco says one of the most common questions she has received is how she'll deal with atheists now.

“The great thing about a lot of the atheist and skeptic community is that people talk more critically about ideas and want to see proof provided,” Libresco said. “That kind of analytical thinking is completely useful and the Catholic Church doesn’t need to and should not be afraid of because if you’ve got the facts on your side, you hope they win.”

Libresco is just switching the side she thinks the facts are on.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Atheism • Catholic Church

soundoff (7,475 Responses)
  1. TheCapitalist

    It's crazy how the concept of a personal, living God is so outrageous to the very people that believe that if you put paper and ink in a room together, they will "evolve" into a dictionary.

    June 23, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      Still trying to troll with your lame lie? You aren't very good at this, are you?

      June 23, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • 1word

      LOL, they believe we evolved from Apes but there are still Apes in the world, why haven't they evolved too?

      June 23, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Colin

      It's crazy how some think an all-knowing, immortal super-being capable of creating the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies can magically pop out of nothing.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Colin

      1Word- just what is it about allopatric or sympatric speciation that necessitates the extinction of the stem species? Now answer, don't run away.

      BTW, no evolutionary biologist thinks man descended from apes.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Jimmy G…
      LOL… just got back from running some errands and I’ve disconnected from the older threads… so I thought I’d put the cheese on the mousetrap again since I got a few…

      Colin…
      And yet you believe that one-celled amoebas popped out of nothing, or a “big bang”…

      June 23, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • 1word

      Colin, no one knows how God came into existence. All we have to go by is what God said! God is real!

      June 23, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • Colin

      Capitalist – the fact that you would confuse terrestrial abiogenesis with the big bang is fvcking laughable. I'm out. Talking to you is like discussing rocket science with a corgi. Go cuddle your Bible you knuckle dragging fvckwit.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • Bet

      LOL, they believe we evolved from Apes but there are still Apes in the world, why haven't they evolved too?

      Evolution doesn't require the extinction of the originating species.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • Colin

      1word – great, now answer my question. What is it about either of the two most common forms of speciation that necessitate the extinction of the stem species? You cited the continued existence of the stem species as damaging to evolution, now back it up or admit you don't have a fvcking clue what you are talking about.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Skeptic

      1word

      You got it wrong. Humans didn't evolve from apes, thats not what science says. Thats what lying preachers say. Both humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor, hence why humans are related to apes, and why you don't see apes evolving into humans.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Colin…
      Allopatric speciation is another argument in the quiver of intelligent design. You also neglect to acknowledge that the existence of God and science is not a zero-sum game. A belief in God does not negate many of the scientific principles that you hold so dear. You have been sold a lie that says that God and science are mutually exclusive polar opposites, and that is NOT the case. After all, the leader of the Human Genome Project converted to Christianity BECAUSE of his scientific studies.

      Colin…
      I am not “confusing” anything… while you are very book-smart, it seems that satire goes right over your head. The “dictionary” comment, is a satirical jab at atheists based in reductio absurdum… intended to provoke a passionate response (like cheese on a mousetrap, as I said). SIMILAR, to how you might accuse us of “blind faith that is like believing in fairy tales” or of a “man in the sky that does magic tricks”. We ALSO don’t believe in those things… yet you get away with misrepresenting our beliefs all the time.

      And at the end of the day, MANY of the atheist arguments explaining existence CAN be deconstructed into a basic assertion of “ink + paper = dictionary”.

      Wow, what a childish temper tantrum… see what I mean Smurfette?

      June 23, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • 1word

      Colin, I would answer your question but that seems to be your specialty. My specialty is Gods Word, and receiving his Blessings! God is Light and there is no darkness in him. He is love and without him you will have NO PEACE!

      June 23, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Colin...
      Also note and observe... how your goal in using the scientific terminology was not to proceed with a fair debate, but rather to embarrass your opponent and make him look foolish. You know perfectly well that most people are not familiar with such terminology, whether atheist or Christian or whatever... yet you would seek to portray the Christian as "lesser than" by demanding something of him, that you would not demand of another atheist. Hypocrite.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      And Colin...
      The continued existence of the stem species might not necessarily negate "evolution"... but there would have to be an explanation for the divergence if that was the case. Where is that explanation?

      June 23, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • Colin

      Capitalist – well, the problem with you people who believe the "six days and a talking snake" theory of terrestrial biological origins is you throw out a ridiculous comment like 'well, if men came from apes, why are there still apes" then, when challanged, claim the responder is being elitist. Look, if you don't know much about biology, that's fine, but don't go making stupid comments that misrepresent it. Or, if you do, accept that you will be put in your plcace.

      Believing that an all-knowing being, capable of creating the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies popped into existence out of nothing, based entirely on Bronze Age Palestinian mythology IS ludicrous. I'm sorry if that offends you, but if you do not want to be called a fool, don't articulate foolish, childish beliefs.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • Colin

      One is changed environmental conditions for a discrete subpopulation of the original population, such as when ice ages cause dramatic changes in sea levels, cutting species into subgroups. Different environmental conditions on one wil lcause it to digerve, but the other group, if not subject to differing conditions, will continue.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • Colin

      By the way, I asked you this morning, what is oil?

      Answer this time, don't run away. What is oil, becuase I understood it to be the fossilized remains of innumerable sea creatures, generally from the Cretacous Period (about 350 million years ago). That is why it is called a FOSSIL fuel. Likewise coal and natural gas.

      What, do you think your god puts magic pixie dust in your car to help it run. Moron.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Colin...
      Oil is a natural resource which may very well be described as a fossil fuel, but where did you get the idea that this somehow contradicted Christianity? From non-Christians telling you what Christians believe, that's where...

      As a Christian, I know that my Bible describes the earth as having already been in existence, before God ever said "let there be light" and before the first day of this creation. I also know that the Bible describes a Luciferian creation at a different time, that is not compatible with this one. I also know that the earth was described as having been destroyed and was "empty", before the "6 days of creation". I believe, and many Christians do... that the earth is millions of years old, and that there were creations here on earth prior to Adam. The idea that the earth is just 6,000 years old, is based on the timeline and genealogy which goes back to Adam, as described in the Bible... but nowhere in the Bible does it say that the earth itself is just 6,000 years old. I believe these pre-Adamic creations can explain many things, from dinosaurs to the legend of Atlantis.

      But the real issue here is that you have been lied to with regards to what Christianity is and what TRUE Christians believe.

      June 23, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Colin…
      I didn’t make the “ape” comment. However, despite the scientific quibbles you may have with that comparison… you misrepresent our beliefs in a far worse and far more cavalier manner… yet a little funny comment about atheism sets you off to no end.

      I am not claiming you are elitist… but at the same time… you should know better… not every Christian is equipped to handle deep theological questioning, in the same way that not every atheist can give a dissertation on quantum physics.

      June 23, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Colin…
      Your statement of “when ice ages cause dramatic changes in sea levels” is speculation of a possibility, not a scientifically accepted specific hypothesis. I did not ask you, “what could possibly split off one species from another?” I’m asking you specifically, “What specifically happened to cause humans to split off from apes evolutionarily speaking?”

      June 23, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
  2. Colin

    Ten Ways You Know you are an Atheist.

    1. You were likely brought up a theist (probably a Jew or Christian if you live in the USA) and had to do your own thinking to rise above the beliefs that still occupy the mind of the believer. This usually involved being smart and working hard at school and college so as to get a good, accurate view of the natural Universe and overcoming significant social pressure to dumb yourself down and conform. In short, you had the guts to ask the hard questions and the brains to spot the weak answers. The more you came to understand the Universe, the less reason there was to believe in a god and the more you came to understand human nature, the more you understood why billions of us still do.

    2. While rejecting the supernatural elements of the Bible, you nevertheless retain a large amount of the morality taught today by mainstream Christianity. To the extent you reject Christian morality, it is where it is mean spirited – such as in the way it seeks to curtail freedoms or oppose the rights of $exual minorities. In most other respects, your basic moral outlook is indistinguishable from that of the liberal Christian – you just don’t need the mother of all carrots and sticks hanging over your head in order to act in a manner that you consider moral.

    3. You know a great deal more about the Bible than most believers. This is because you took the time to read it yourself and did not rely on the primary-color simple stories you learned in Sunday school. You have also probably done some research into the historical Jesus and have a good handle on where he REALLY fit in to the broader picture of the Middle East at the time. Needless to say, his miracles and other magic powers soon started to look pretty unlikely.

    4. Your knowledge of basic science and history is much stronger than that of your average believer. You likely have a basic working knowledge of physics, astronomy, evolutionary biology and cosmology and a good idea of the history of life on this planet. This acc.umulated knowledge puts you in a position to judge the claims of the Bible in a critical light and they are almost always found wanting. To the theist, this makes you “elitist” and ‘arrogant”.

    5. You relish your role as a religious minority in the USA, as this gives you an impetus to fight and you understand how others with unpopular, but doubtlessly correct views have felt throughout history. There is something altogether satisfying to you about having a deep conviction you are right and being viewed with disdain for your views by the errant majority. You feel a quiet confidence that future generations will look back on you as a member of a class of trailblazers, as religious supersti.tions go into inevitable decline in popularity.

    6. You are likely more environmentally aware than your theist friends and colleagues and unlikely to fall for claims of industry and wind-bag politicians concerning the impact of man’s activities on the environment. You could no more act in an environmentally irresponsible manner because “god will keep us safe” than you could jump off a ship, believing King Neptune will keep you safe.

    7. You generally have a live and let live atti.tude, but will fiercely defend any attempts by theists to thrust their views on you or your children, directly or through control of school boards, the legislature or the executive. While you are prepared to debate and argue passionately with the theist on an intellectual level, you would never wish them harm or ill will. You know you are likely to be smugly told you will “burn in hell for all eternity” for your healthy skepticism. This highlights what you despise about religion, as you would not wish a bad sunburn on another, simply because they have a different religious view to you. You have never heard of an evolutionary biologist strapping a bomb to himself and running into a church yelling “Darwin-u akbar, Darwin-u akbar”.

    8. You likely know more about other religions than your average theist. This makes you less fearful of them and enables you to see parallels. You realize that, if you were born in India, you would have been brought up with a totally different religion. You realize that every culture that has ever existed has had its own god(s) and they always favor that particular culture, its hopes, dreams and prejudices. They cannot all exist and you see the error all faiths make of thinking only theirs exist(s). This “rising above” the regional nature of all religions was probably instrumental in your achieving atheism.

    9. You likely have a deep, genuine appreciation of the fathomless beauty and unbelievable complexity of our Universe, from the 4 nucleotides that orchestrate every aspect of you, through to the distant quasars, without having to think it was all made for you. You likely get more out of being the irrelevant ant staring up at the cosmos than you do in having to pretend that it was all made to turn in majestic black-and-white pirouette about you.

    10. While you have a survival instinct, you cannot fear death in the way the theist does. You know that the whole final judgment story, where you may be sent to hell if you fail, is Dark Ages nonsense meant to keep the Church’s authority. You also know that you were dead for 13,720,000,000 years before you were born. It is impossible for you to fear death, for the simple reason that you know the capacity to fell pain, or to regret or fear itself dies. You will not even know you are dead. Fear of death is as meaningless to you as is the fear of a vacuum, the fear of not being born. You feel a lot more secure, and indeed a deep comfort, in this knowledge, than you would in trying to yoke yourself to some quasi-hope from Bronze Age Palestine that every part of your intellect tells you is untenable.

    June 23, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  3. 1word

    The power of God is wakes up the unbelievers everyday. The day the Unbelievers are kneeling before Christ, they will be saying man I thought those Christians were lying. lol I'm here to give you guys proof that GOD IS REAL. I seen him myself! I'm SAVED, and I cannot tell a lie because God Hates liars! It's the truth!

    June 23, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • zod

      you may be insane

      June 23, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • Colin

      seek help. You are pretty obviously crazy at some level.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Wow... how are you different from bullies? How are you different from an oppressive theocracy?

      You mock, shame, and accuse of insanity anyone that disagrees with you.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • Skeptic

      Ask God why he causes miscarriages.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • 1word

      Just spreading the truth. God created the Heavens and the Earth and everything in it. God will judge the world.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • abaddon

      @ thecapitalist

      You sound like a tool.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • 1word

      Skeptic, you ever thought that it was something the parents done in their past to cause them to miscarriage? I won't blame God for the bad things in the World because he's done so much Good in my life. I have healthy children and I continue to receive Blessings from him. You ever thought that those who don't believe in God and Blasphem his name deserves to be cursed??

      June 23, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • Skeptic

      1word

      How do you even justify that EVIL nonsense thinking. So God aborts an innocent unborn fetus because of something his parents did. Hello!!!!!!!!! How about the government arrests some innocent guy and puts him on death row for a murder someone else did. Thats total EVIL nonsense, but when god does it, hey well its ok, praise god. Geeeeeeez take one second to think about your beliefs.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      1word: The following speaks of the mental health issue known in our world as schizophrenia...it defines you peferectly:
      "People with schizophrenia have an altered perception of reality, often a significant loss of contact with reality. They may see or hear things that don’t exist." (http://www.helpguide.org/mental/schizophrenia_symptom.htm)

      June 23, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
  4. zombie

    I dont think she was actually ever an atheist. Like people who claim they were gay, until they "prayed the gay away" I don't think they were ever gay.

    June 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      She probably became a nun at 5 years old and has been working undercover all this time waiting for the moment to reveal herself. These sleeper cells are insidious. The pope and his minions will stop at nothing. These fiends are crafty. And now she will be dominated by men–was that her goal all along?

      June 23, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • 1word

      LOL You name is perfect, a zombie is a unbeliever who goes around eating the flesh of other people causing them to become zombies. LOL You are wrong, they don't pray the Gay away; they go to God and he turns them back straight. I was a vial person, and God changed me to love more than hate. He changed me from being a mastur bation freak, I haven't mastur bated in since I asked him to remove it from me. God is REAL DUDE!

      June 23, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      1word: seek help...you're clearly delusional

      June 23, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  5. Skeptic

    WOW. What is wrong with CNN. I just went to the Patheos website and surprise surprise its not an atheist website, it's an interfaith website. Talk about poor journalism to say the least. After that the whole article is just basically bogus.

    "Leah Libresco, who’d been a prominent atheist blogger for the religion website Patheos, announced on her blog this week that after years of debating many “smart Christians,” she has decided to become one herself, and that she has begun the process of converting to Catholicism."

    That opening line right there must have been written by some publicist or something. Shes not well known, Pathos is not an atheist site and if anything it seems her catholic boyfriend convinced her into this. So much for truth. This is nothing than a media stunt by her and whatever organization she represents. Thanks CNN for doing what you always do and never ever research a story.

    June 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Bet

      CNN just looks at which stories bring in the most comments and posts more of the same to bring more hits, and more money. I admit to falling for it, just like everyone else here.

      This woman is not a "promi.nent atheist blogger" by any stretch of the imag.ination. She's 19 years old, and has a catholic boyfriend. She certainly wouldn't be the first person to cave in to pressure from a significant other and potential in laws.

      This sudden conversion, in spite of her admission that she has problems with the catholic church's stance on contrac.eption, ho.mose.xu.allity (since she's openly bise.x.ual) and other "aspects of religious liberty" are somewhat troubling.

      Her explanation of how she started her blog makes it pretty evident that she was dancing around the fringes of religious belief even as she proclaimed herself an atheist.

      For all we know, she may have started her blog with the intent of having a public "conversion". There's a lot of money in religion, and the catholic church needs some positive press. Christians eat up these stories of conversion, and she's probably already gotten a lot of money thrown at her. I'm sure we're not very far from hearing about a book deal and seeing her on the talk show circuit.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • CNN Crap Spotter

      @Skeptic

      It's said in the article that she is prominent atheist blogger in a religion website. Okay let me SPELL it out to you, R-E-L-I-G-I-O-N website. Get it, einstein?

      OBVIOUSLY, it was your skepticism bogus and it's no surprising at all to know the you are COMPLETE IDIOT!

      June 23, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
  6. bubbles

    The sky is blue and it proves there is a God.

    Fact.Proven.Proof

    June 23, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      A dog's coat gets thicker in the winter... therefore it proves we all evolved from one-celled amoebas.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • Smurfette

      I am blue and it proves that I am 2 apples tall. And proves that Gargamel is the creator of the universe. because I don't know how it was created. So it must have been him. Q.E.D.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Smurfette... your logic is undeniable.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Bet

      It's called Rayleigh scattering and it has nothing to do with a god. It's a simple natural occurrence that is easily explained.

      On the other hand, you seem to enjoy trolling, and I'm sure you'll have some random bible quote telling me once again that I'm going to burn in hell for all eternity.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Bet... I'll tell you how you can avoid burning in hell (Jesus Christ).

      So anyone that doesn't agree with atheists is "trolling", whereas atheists name-calling and disparaging people is "intellectual discourse"? Please...

      June 23, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • Bet

      @ Cap

      The statement was about the blue sky proving the existence of god. I answered it with the scientific reason for blue skies, which has nothing to do with god and is simply light scattering in the atmosphere.

      My statement about trolling refers to the poster's predilection of putting questions out and then refusing to respond to the answer provided, or responding with ad hominems. That is the definition of trolling and has nothing to do with religion.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  7. KC

    GOOD FOR YOU, KID.

    June 23, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      KC and the Sunshine Band, I don't think so. Why is it good for her? Now her mind will atrophy and she will sink into the morass of clouded, deluded thinking that religion demands of its sheeple. I truly feel that she will vanish under the varnish of catholic dogma.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  8. Smurfette

    Fundies – putting the "mental" in "fundamentalist"

    June 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  9. Slab

    She will come to regret her decision in the future, I'm betting....

    June 23, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • Blast

      I call! please place it (your bet) in a nice white envelope.

      June 23, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
  10. James S. A. Brown, III

    This article makes very clear that the author is very unfamiliar w/ atheist blogs. There are a lot of them out there, many of which have been online in some form or fashion for a decade. This young woman has been writing her "prominent atheist blog" for about two years... as an undergraduate college student. So she writes for HuffPost! ANYBODY can write for HuffPost, and it's something of a laughingstock in the skeptic community. As an avid reader of such things, I'd never heard of Ms. Libresco, and I simply can't find anybody in the atheist blog community who has.

    This is very much like CNN having an article about womens' issues without consulting women, or writing about Hispanic culture from the middle of WASPville. Mr. Merica's editor needs to be thrashed about the head and shoulders.

    June 23, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
  11. Blane

    If you knew you were going to burn in hell, you would also try to deny it because if you keep denying maybe you can convince yourself. But God sees everything.

    June 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Smurfette

      So does Santa

      June 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • James S. A. Brown, III

      So, let me get this straight. If I don't believe what you believe, your invisible friend will torture me forever. Right.

      That's just flippin' deluded.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Yeah, you're SO right!

      Growing up as a jew I knew from the get go, I was going to he.ll. You see, since I had the misfortune of being brought up to believe in god, go to synagog.gue, have my b'nai mitzvah and perform mitzvah's for the rest of my life the sad part is that jesus never fit into that, so god, in his infi./nite wisdom after choosing my people decided to send us all straight to he.ll because the one chance we had to switch over was his son who clearly didn't have the same ora.tory powers as his father because he couldn't convince every one. Da.rn! And now, here I am completely fu.ck.ed because even though I still give to cha.rity, help out whenever I can, try not to lie or steal and have no commit/ted mur/der or ra.p.e I'm going to he.ll because I totally deserve it.

      Guess I'll go back to denying it exists so I can make you feel better!

      June 23, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • bubbles

      why do atheists always bring up Santa? got some secret Santa Clause fetish or something?

      June 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • Smurfette

      @ Bubble-brain – Well (and I'll try to speak slowly) what do we know about Santa? There are books about his, which describe his powers and what he can do. And what are some of those powers? Omniscience – he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake. The power to perform miracle: he can fly around the world delivering presents to millions of children in a single night – using magical flying reindeer. He judges people and metes out that judgment – he knows if you're been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake (or you don't get any presents).

      In short, he shares the same characteristics as your god. So, do you believe in god but not Santa, and if not, why not?

      June 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Swat Time

      There is no god. Your paranoid fantasies are all in your head.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
    • bubbles

      There is God.Atheists are wrong.

      See i can act like you!

      June 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      You missed one crucial requirement to "acting the same" as an atheist: You forgot to base your words on actual facts. Oops!

      June 23, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Smurfette

      @ bub the bubble boy; except that you are asserting a positive claim – that there IS a god. Therefore, the onus is upon you to prove that claim. This makes sense, as it is logically impossible to prove non-existence. You may find as well that many atheists do not take the position that there is no god, but merely take the position that they do not believe that god exists, because of a lack of reliable evidence. These two positions are not the same.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • bubbles

      YOU made a claim.By your standards YOU MUST prove that claim.You hide behind the "oh i cant prove a negative" but you tell others THEY must.So you must also.

      you make a claim such as "No God" it now becomes a claim without proof so you NOW must prove it.

      here comes the excuses

      June 23, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • Smurfette

      bubsi-boy – i don't KNOW if there is a god. There could be – anything is possible. i don't believe there is a god, but that's not the say as saying there IS no god. Please review my prior post. You, on the other hand ARE saying that there is a god, correct/ If so, the onus is on you to prove it.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • Bet

      Bubbles is the new Evangelical/HeavenSent. In other words, a troll.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      I would much prefer the Bubbles character from AbFab. She could be reasoned with, unlike this current bubble-head.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      God sees everything and Jesus rides a unicorn with a leprechaun on his shoulders.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • JWT

      What god sees all – there are so many of them, how can we every choose just one. It's like eating just one oreo cookie.

      June 23, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
  12. papa

    yeh, you get a lot more press coverage and exposure when you claim to believe in Jeebus

    June 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
  13. andrea

    The fruit of SILENCE is Prayer
    The fruit of PRAYER is Faith
    The fruit of FAITH is Love
    The fruit of LOVE is Service
    The fruit of SERVICE is Peace

    ~Mother Teresa~

    June 23, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60&w=640&h=390]

      even us pagans miss you (Christ)opher

      see what i did there

      June 23, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Mother Teresa was a clown!

      June 23, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • Bet

      "The suffering of the poor is something very beautiful and the world is being very much helped by the nobility of this example of misery and suffering" – Mother Teresa.

      Mother Teresa kept people in poverty because without poverty, she wouldn't have had the fame and recognition that she had. She raked in billions of dollars, yet refused to do the one thing that would have helped the most, provide contraception. Instead, she spoke out against it every chance she got.

      Her order handed out cups of soup and put sick people on cots in tents, when they had enough money to build several state of the art hospitals. Where did all that money go? Pedophile defense funds.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • andrea

      It's a sad, sad world when some can't recognize the work that Mother Teresa did!
      And she did it all without asking for anybody's conversion. It didn't matter who the sick and suffering were, or what they believed in.
      She gave more than food and medicine...she gave LOVE and TIME to the unwanted and rejected in their final moments. More than any of us will probably EVER do in our lifetime!!!

      June 23, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Bet

      @ andrea

      Read the quote I posted again. MT is saying that poverty is beautiful, that the world is helped by misery and suffering. That's a horrifyingly insensitive and cruel statement.

      Ask the mother of a sick child if she wants you to give the child love or medicine.

      Her Home for the Dying was no more than a clearing house with cloth stretchers. There was little actual medical care and no painkillers other than aspirin, despite her income of many millions of dollars. Yet when she became sick, she flew out of India and checked into some the costliest hospitals in the western world.

      She accepted stolen money and the use of a private jet from Charles Keating, as well as sending letters asking for clemency during his sentencing. She flew to Haiti and endorsed the Duvaliers, who murdered thousands of their countrymen and lived lavish lifestyles with money stolen from their people. She made visits to Guatemala and Nicaragua to help cover up the activities of the death squads and the Contras. She spent a great deal of time and money on political causes that had nothing to do with helping the poverty stricken of India. She steadfastly refused to address the correlation between poverty and too many children, maintaining that god would take care of them, while she and her organization raked in millions in unaccounted-for dollars.

      No one knows what happens to the millions of dollars Mother Teresa receives. There is no accounting and no evidence that she built a hospital or orphanage that reflects modern health and sanitary conditions.

      June 23, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • andrea

      @Bet
      I wrote a long reply for you, but somehow it disappeared... I have no idea where it went to.
      I'm going to try to rewrite it (keep in mind that English is my second language, lol). But that's ok, because I enjoy debating, especially if it is with a smart person like you.

      Of course a mother would rather choose to receive medicine for her sick child, but we are talking about people with NO mother, father, or any relatives to care for them (the unwanted). After India achieved independence from Britain, the country got split between Hindus and Muslims, and the riots brought millions of refugees to Calcutta. Mother Teresa would brave the streets, and pick up people being eaten buy worms and rats.
      Maybe she made mistakes along the way, she was good and compassionate, but that doesn't mean she was infallible!
      In her biography, she even admits to not believing in God for periods of times (yes, even MT had doubts about God).
      But I don't think anything can diminish the work she and the sisters accomplished, in Calcutta and all over the world.
      I believe that empathy and compassion should always be a source of inspiration!

      June 23, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
  14. Voicenithedesert/Troubledgoodangel

    Good luck, Leah Libresco! Szczęść Boże, in Polish. Catholicism, through the Eucharist or the Host you accept in Holy Communion, guarantees you eternal life in God! These are Jesus' words, not mine. As a theologian, I offer youn this advice: Do not try to seek the easy way. The road to heaven isn't easy. Whatever question you have, just write to me and I will gladly respond. CNN should have my e-mail address.

    June 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Those are not Jesus' words... He never said that... never advocated for a "Eucharist" or a "host". The only "host" is the Holy Spirit, not some saint or angel that you worship as an intermediary. Catholicism is very much a distortion of Jesus' message. By the way... the 7 sacraments, the Pope, the priesthood that forgives sins... none of it biblical and none of it asserted by Jesus.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • Smurfette

      @ Capitalist – it's like arguing over what Batman said vs what Superman said – great if your 6 or 7 years old, but rather silly for adults to be arguing over which fable is better, or "truer", as if fables can be true.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Smurfette...

      If there is a belief system that can be accurately described as childish and immature... it's atheism... like sticking your fingers in your ears in singing "la la I cant hear you I wanna believe what I feel like believing! Waahh!"

      June 23, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      @Crapitalist – Nice try, but your words are demonstrably false, as ours are not.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • Smurfette

      @ Cap – the atheist position is simply this: I do not believe in your god because YOU – who is asserting the existence of said god – ha failed to provide sufficient reliable evidence to prove the existence of said god. Would you be so kind as to clarify and explain how that is childish?

      June 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • PJ J.

      How about these references to it in Scripture, where he commands us to celebrate the Eucharist? Matt. 26:26-28; Mark. 14:22,24; Luke 22;19-20; 1 Cor. 11:24-25
      "While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, 'Take and eat; this is my body.' Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, 'Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the[a] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.'"
      Or here where St. Paul talks about it: 1 Cor. 10:16
      Or here where he talks about not receiving the bread and cup (Eucharist) unworthily: 1 Cor. 11:30
      Or in John 6:53 where Jesus says "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you."
      Or in the many other places it is mentioned in Scripture? Jesus may not have said the specific word "Eucharist" (partially because he didn't speak in English) but he still talked about it. And we believe what He told us, just as we believe in the Trinity, even though Jesus never said the word "Trinity."

      June 23, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Smurfette…
      It is childish because no matter what evidence is provided, no matter how obvious, it will never be acceptable to you, because you have made up your mind. You take the evidence and fit it into your pre-conceived conclusion, you do not objectively look at the evidence to come to a conclusion. That is childish. I have not always been a Christian, but upon an honest assessment of facts ranging from science to history to common sense, Christianity is logically the most likely “theory on life” that exists.

      PJJ…
      Jesus said to do that in remembrance of Him, as a symbol of the heart, not as a critical component of salvation where you have to “work” or “do” things to earn your way into heaven. For example, Catholics believe that a baby that isn’t baptized with water goes to hell, thereby placing an inordinate emphasis on the religious ceremony as the source of the salvation, rather then on God. Baptism is simply a symbol of a change of heart, but the water does not save us, and we can be saved without being baptized if need be. THEN you go into the “hosts” and “saints” and rosary beads, and the sacraments and the pope and all of these man-made religious things that God did not create…

      June 23, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • Beat Punchmeat

      @TheCapitalist

      What is your conclusive evidence for the Christian god? If you have such evidence, you will be considered among the greatest human beings in history, because nobody has been able to prove that their religion can't have been made up yet, or shown their god to be much superior to any other gods.

      I'm curious. Please provide this earth-shattering evidence you claim to have.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  15. hemo

    Catholicism??? thats practically devil worship!!! they all fornicate with little boys and have human sacrifices!! only white Protestants will find salvation with God and the rest will all burn for eternity in hell!!!!!!!

    June 23, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Ya' boy Darwin says that black people are a "less evolved" and "inferior" form of human being.

      Christianity says that black people (and all people) are loved of God.

      Your lying is showing...

      June 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Chuckles

      More lies again I see Capitalist?

      That's a shame because you usually never lie..... oh wait, it's the truth you usually avoid. Nevermind, carry on with your lies, it really is helping your cause a lot

      June 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Chuckles...

      Darwin did say that... and heavily influenced Hitler's theories on "building a better man"... look it up if you get a chance to pause from your insightful name-calling arguments.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  16. Blane

    Christians, I don't think it's a good idea to continue to argue with the damned. You will never win them over. They are to be pitied for their blindness. They will never know what it is like to be chosen by God. If you think about it, it is sad really.

    June 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Any disgusting being who would build and maintain hell isn't worthy of any worship at all; that being is only worthy of derision.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Aura Borealis

      @Blane-
      So are you saying that Christians are better than everyone else because they are "chosen" or beileve that they are chosen??

      I forget how narrow-minded Christians can be, thats sad.

      June 23, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • JWT

      Could you imagine a theocracy with someone line blane running it – be like well some 3rd world shole.

      June 23, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
  17. TheCapitalist

    Man... religion is so crazy...

    Like the one, where they believe that if you put paper and ink in a room together, that it'll "evolve" into a dictionary, LOL.

    Instead of religion, I follow after the most anti-religious Man to ever walk the earth... Jesus Christ.

    June 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      What stupid idiot believes that putting ink and paper in a room will make a dictionary? I've heard of people believing that magic spells made the cosmos, and invisible diseases (sin) in invisible body parts (soul) and stupid sh!t like that, but not the dictionary one.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Moby Schtick...

      LOL... apparently that one went right over your head...

      I'm referring to the atheist religion.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      No, I think I've got him beat pretty easily. I'm not only more anti-religious than he supposedly was, I am clearly more moral for I do not follow a set of psychotic and racist primitive tribal religious laws.
      As an intelligent secular humanist, I am more moral than your god, more moral than your "Jesus" and more moral than YOU.
      There are no moral absolutes, but there are such things as empathy, sympathy, logic, reason, common sense, and science to give me a much more effective and intelligent set of morals to live by.

      All you have is some dung-covered scraps written by goat-raping genocidal nomads before they even knew about soap.
      Thanks but you can keep your primitive cult beliefs to yourself.
      Your god is imaginary, your prayers worthless and your soul probably doesn't exist either.
      In short, you should examine your own premises and quit being so gullible – it makes you immoral and untrustworthy and potentially dangerous to anyone around you.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Again with the atheism as religion schtick. Some people just can't seem to wrap their minds around the concept that atheism is simply the disbelief in any god.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Pablo Escobar

      Name one single atheist who has ever said or believe that if you put ink and paper in a room, it will evolve into a dictionary. That is just you creating an insane and inapplicable stereotype.

      Religion requires a God or supernatural element, or it cannot be a religion. Atheism cannot be a religion.

      How old are you? You act like a teenager.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Apparently, almost everything is going over your head, Cap. My post was a double whammy. I mocked your idiotic analogy about the dictionary, AND mocked your silly beliefs about the cosmos being made by a magic spell and the ridiculous idea of us having invisible and undetectable body parts (souls) with invisible and undetectable diseases in them (sin).

      June 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Jimmy G…

      As you regurgitate your hate-filled spewing you can’t even see that you are hypocritically acting upon the very same impulses that you accuse us of having. You are trying to justify yourself… yet have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen? Have you ever hated someone? Jesus certainly didn’t do any of those things, He was sinless. You can rant and rave with your emotional immaturity all you want, but truth is truth, whether you believe it or not. At the end of the day… you DO believe, in essence, that if you put paper and ink in a room together, they will “evolve” into a dictionary. You’re in no position to lecture us on what is ridiculous and absurd. And if you DID ACTUAL research on science and the world around you… you would see that it is VERY logical to be a Christian, it is the MOST logical.

      Tallulah13... We know perfectly well that atheists think they simply have a “disbelief in God”, but we also know that that ties in to the age-old human sin… man thinking that he is god. Your god can be your daily pack of cigarettes, whatever you devote yourself to and serve… THAT is your god… whether it’s an inanimate object like money, or a living being like cows in India or the Kardashians in America. EVERYONE worships a “god” of some kind. I choose to worship the true and only living God.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Pablo Escobar…
      Atheists don’t “say” that… I did… as a satirical jab aimed at atheists using reductio absurdum… the same way you people do with all your “man in the sky with magic spells” rantings. Ohhh yeahhhh buddy?? Well YOU sound like less than a teenager, so there! (Is that how you debate? C’mon now…)

      Moby Schtick…
      Even you believe in sin… what is murder? Why do we have jails?

      June 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @ Capital Idiot

      Clearly you are flailing in a sad attempt to garner some "points" for christianity by just stating that you are right and everyone else is wrong.... It's quite sad.

      For your jail comment – We have jails so punishments for people who disrupt the social harmony of society are given by a third party. This allows for 1) no family feuds to begin like the Hatfields and McCoys 2) Deterance of other people committing the crime and 3) retribution for the victim or victim's family.

      It's not "sin" except in the more liberal sense of the word where sin can mean a "wrong".

      I beg you, here are a list of courses that you should take and actually learn before trying to argue a point

      Science
      History
      Ancient History
      Religion courses of all different nations and cultures
      Philosophy
      Criminal Justice
      Introduction to Logic

      It's a full course load and I'm sure it would raise your IQ to probably over 100 for the first time in your life, but it'll be worth it, I promise

      June 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      @ Chuckling Idiot…

      SOMEONE will be right, and everyone else will be wrong. Truth is truth, REGARDLESS of your “opinion” on the matter. Either your right, or I’m right, or neither one of us is right, but there is ONLY ONE “right”, and one truth. Those who operate in the subjective morality of “do what you feel is right” and “we all gain salvation in our own way”, are already operating from a foundation that is illogical.

      I didn’t ask you for the purpose of jail, but I did get you to concede that sin exists in the form of “wrong”… so that’s that.

      Science… corroborates Christianity
      History… corroborates Christianity
      Ancient History… corroborates Christianity
      Religion courses… corroborates Christianity
      Philosophy… corroborates Christianity
      Criminal justice… corroborates Christianity
      Introduction to Logic… corroborates Christianity

      I’m sure such a full course-load is beyond your comprehension, nor could you ever even consider that your precious science provides extra proof of the Christian account.

      1 Timothy 6:20... “… avoiding profane and vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE FALSELY SO CALLED…”

      June 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Your adorable. I wish you could be in a zoo so people could come and see you, sort of like a monkey trying to use a pen.

      Also, putting "corroborates christianity" after each course is just sort of pathetic, I mean I was expecting you to at least give..... what was the word you like? Oh yeah, SUBSTANCE.

      As for who's "right" and who's "wrong", well aside from the Pascal's wager deal, since we could both be wrong and headed for hades at any moment I guess all we can do is have our own opinions,..... oh wait, I forgot in your deluded brain mines an opinion and yours and truth right?

      Oh and getting to admit "sin" is "wrong" is like me getting you to admit that burgundy is a type of red. In english parlance, sin can be used either in a religious sense or not as its general meaning is "wrong". It in no way corroborates your definition of what sin is AND when you ask why we have jails, that generally means your asking why we have jails,unless I missed something there.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      He's a looney. A gen-u-wine looney looking for a bin. A complete knee-biter. A pitiful representative of his cult.
      Worships money, can't be bothered with coughing up any actual facts or arguments. Nope.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Smurfette

      @ Crapitalist – science corroborates Christianity.

      You mean the part about the world being created 6,000 years ago?
      Or the part about god making Eve from Adam's ?
      Perhaps the talking snake – that's been corroborated. Pythonus Verbosimus, I believe – thing never shuts up.
      Noah putting two of each animal on a big boat for 40 days?
      The Earth being covered by a flood?

      Yeah, I see where science corroborates Christianity – at least in the realm of mental illness.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  18. Sam Yaza

    the golden rule came from Kong Fuzi an (Atheist) which which was brought over from the Shinto golden rule (love others as you love your self) which you cant really love others until you love your self,... and the idea of tolerance and acceptance is a Pagan ideal not a christian who are completely intolerant of evething not in the bible or mention in the bible as evil,.. then when the rest of society seas it as right you change your opinion saying ether Christ died for it to go away or we interpreted it wrong

    June 23, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      The "golden rule" came from Jesus Christ.

      "Tolerance and acceptance" is a deceptive and false ideal. Should we be "tolerant and accepting" of murderers? The idea of being tolerant is linked to the idea of subjective morality (do whatever you FEEL is right).

      The Bible is timeless, and there is no "changing our minds". Just because someone labels himself as Christian, does not mean that he actually is, nor does he represent Christians, nor is it smart for you to assume that he does.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Nope. It's not until we get to gentle Jesus meek and mild that we get all the horrific details of hell. I'm a s suming that Jesus didn't want to spend eternity in hell, so that's not really "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

      June 23, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Confucius actually proposed what we'd recognize today as the silver rule, and it's vastly superior to the golden rule.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Moby Schtick...

      Jesus did talk a lot about hell, which is all the more reason that we should consider its reality, but in order to avoid hell, He commanded us to love one another, and yes, that originated with Jesus.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      LOL!! Jesus spoke about hell/hades/lake of fire quite a lot, actually. He's the one that really brought the concept to the bible much more than anything in the old testament where there's verses that say that the dead know nothing and that sort of thing. Idiot.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Pablo

      Actually, Confucius said "Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself." about 500 years before. Buddha also said something nearly identical at about the same time, 500 years before Jesus. The Egyptian concept of Maat – "Do to the doer to cause that he do thus to you" dates to about 2000 BC. Numerous Greek philosophers say identical things in 600 to 400 BC.

      So Jesus came up with it, except for all those other people in other places who did it first.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Moby Schtick… You made a statement that agrees with me, and yet, at the end… you call me an “idiot”. Once again, your name-calling is simply a cover-up for your lack of an argument… try to find one.

      Pablo…
      Actually… the ten commandments spelled that out before all of them, and the ten commandments came from Jesus (the Word of God, though I know you can’t understand that and probably JUST see Jesus as a man)

      June 23, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • Know What

      The Capitalist,

      The *oldest* that the OT Bible writings are estimated to be is between 1446 BCE and 1406 BCE (Torah), with the remaining books composed between 1400 BCE to 400 BCE.

      Some early incarnations of the Golden Rule, found in the Code of Hammurabi, (1780 BCE), dealt with ethical reciprocity in ways, such by limiting retribution to only that which was equal and equitable, as they did concepts of retribution ("an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth").

      –and–

      An early example of the Golden Rule that reflects the Ancient Egyptian concept of Maat appears in the story of The Eloquent Peasant, which dates to the Middle Kingdom (c. 2040–1650 BCE): "Now this is the command: Do to the doer to cause that he do thus to you."

      Both greatly predate your OT stories.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • TheCapitalist

      Know What…

      They do not pre-date the ACTUAL ten commandments, OR the Hebrew society that made them famous.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
    • Know What

      TheCapitalist,

      The traditional religious view on the origin of the Torah is that it was written by Moses between 1446 BCE and 1406 BCE - that is the *oldest* that it can be estimated to be - and many scholars date it to be even newer than that. Was Moses the guy who is supposed to have gotten these "actual 10 commandments"?

      I'm sorry, but 2000 BC and 1700 BC predate 1400 BC.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      the Ainu pre-Ko-shinto dates their golden rule approximately 14,000 BC,... the root of the golden rule is..... i'm pretty sure its still probably the proto-human garden of Edan swinging from trees Gaia worshiping ancestors

      sorry to be an @ss

      June 23, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  19. Jon

    I love how everyone thinks they have an informed, important opinion on this topic and others. The fact is, 90% of people have rehashed or subconsciously ripped off opinion that is gleaned from the news, sitcoms, and music. Most people are unable to develop and independent opinion. This being said, I am glad this individual has allowed her soul to be saved. I hope she enjoys her newfound spiritual freedom.

    June 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Memetics, Jon, memetics. Check out an excellent book called "The virus(es?) of the mind." It's by the guy who created the Word program. It's incredible and a "must read."

      June 23, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      She's becoming a Catholic because she wants to marry her Catholic boyfriend – no miracle here, just a woman being an idiot.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      It's not Judaism Jimmy. She doesn't have to convert to Catholicism to marry a Catholic. Right about the idiocy though.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      Hey, I'm just pointing out what she put forth as her reasons for converting. Argue with her if you want. She was coerced into converting because of her Catholic friends and her Catholic boyfriend who I'm sure she'll now marry quite easily thanks to not being "unequally yoked" as she puts it.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • PJ J.

      Actually, if you read some of Leah's more recent blog posts and comments, you can see that she is no longer dating the Catholic man to which you are referring. She has made it clear that her reason for converting to Catholicism is because that is where the truth has led her. She has made her choice based on the evidence that she saw for Catholicism being more true than athiesm. Maybe other people helped her to see this evidence, but that does not mean she is being forced to convert any more than her athiest friends who were arguing for athiesm were forcing her to stay an athiest.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      Since there is zero evidence that can be used to convert her, your argument lacks a certain truthfulness.

      June 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
  20. Beel

    Amazing..............

    June 23, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Yes, I am.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      What? You've never heard of a woman with a Catholic boyfriend suddenly deciding to become a Catholic? Do tell.

      June 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
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