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June 22nd, 2012
11:27 AM ET

Prominent atheist blogger converts to Catholicism

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – She went from atheist to Catholic in just over 1,000 words.

Leah Libresco, who’d been a prominent atheist blogger for the religion website Patheos, announced on her blog this week that after years of debating many “smart Christians,” she has decided to become one herself, and that she has begun the process of converting to Catholicism.

Libresco, who had long blogged under the banner “Unequally Yoked: A geeky atheist picks fights with her Catholic boyfriend,” said that at the heart of her decision were questions of morality and how one finds a moral compass.

“I had one thing that I was most certain of, which is that morality is something we have a duty to,” Libresco told CNN in an interview this week, a small cross dangling from her neck. “And it is external from us. And when push came to shove, that is the belief I wouldn’t let go of. And that is something I can’t prove.”

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According to a Patheos post she wrote on Monday, entitled “This is my last post for the Patheos Atheist Portal,” she began to see parts of Christianity and Catholicism that fit her moral system. Though she now identifies as a Catholic, Libresco questions certain aspects of Catholicism, including the church’s positions on homosexuality, contraception and some aspects of religious liberty.

“There was one religion that seemed like the most promising way to reach back to that living Truth,” Libresco wrote about Catholicism in her conversion announcement post, which has been shared over 18,000 times on Facebook. “I asked my friend what he suggests we do now, and we prayed the night office of the Liturgy of the Hours together.”

At the end of the post, Libresco announces that she is in a Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults class and is preparing for baptism. She will continue to blog for Patheos, but under the banner, “A geeky convert picks fights in good faith.”

According to Dan Welch, director of marketing for Patheos, Libresco’s post has received around 150,000 page views so far.

“Leah's blog has gotten steadily more popular since she arrived at Patheos, but a typical post on her blog is probably closer to the range of 5,000 page views,” Welch wrote in an email. “Even now, a few days later, her blog is probably getting 20-30 times its normal traffic.”

Libresco’s announcement has left some atheists scratching their heads.

“I think atheists were surprised that she went with Catholicism, which seems like a very specific choice,” Hemant Mehta, an atheist blogger at Patheos, told CNN. “I have a hard time believing how someone could jump from I don’t believe in God to a very specific church and a very specific God.”

Mehta says that Libresco’s conversion is a “one-off thing” and not something that signals any trend in atheism. “The trends are very clear, the conversions from Catholicism to atheism are much more likely to happen than the other way around,” he said.

But while atheists were puzzled by the conversion, others commended Libresco.

“I know I’ve prayed for her conversion several times, always thinking she would make a great Catholic,” wrote Brandon Vogt, a Catholic blogger. “And with this news, it looks like that will happen. Today heaven is roaring with joy.”

Thomas L. McDonald, a Catholic Patheos blogger, welcomed Libresco to the fold: “Welcome. I know this was hard, and will continue to be so. Don’t worry if the Catholics make it as for difficult for you as the atheists. We only do it to people we love.”

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Libresco says one of the most common questions she has received is how she'll deal with atheists now.

“The great thing about a lot of the atheist and skeptic community is that people talk more critically about ideas and want to see proof provided,” Libresco said. “That kind of analytical thinking is completely useful and the Catholic Church doesn’t need to and should not be afraid of because if you’ve got the facts on your side, you hope they win.”

Libresco is just switching the side she thinks the facts are on.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Atheism • Catholic Church

soundoff (7,475 Responses)
  1. hghhhghghghghhhhr

    i dont see why you religious people can't chill out and keep your religion personal and out of other peoples affairs.

    June 28, 2012 at 12:42 am |
  2. dpk242

    This 'conversion' is fishy to me, and I bet most other atheist agree. It reeks of intellectual dishonesty and seems more like a ploy for attention. It seems to have worked! Brava, Leah!

    June 28, 2012 at 12:40 am |
  3. singlemom.

    Hey atheist, a Christian brought you into this world enough said ask your.mommy and you'll see....proof is in the pudding.... God bless you...

    June 28, 2012 at 12:38 am |
    • Steve

      Very true. This is the first generation to have any atheists, and every woman in the world who has given birth is, in fact, a Christian.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:42 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Stove & PringleMom, you're kidding, right? Atheists have been around at least as long as believers, probably longer.

      June 28, 2012 at 1:19 am |
    • tallulah13

      So what? My grandma didn't even graduate high school. Should my mother have dropped out because her mother did? Should I have skipped college because my mother didn't attend college?

      Apparently you have decided that what's good for someone else is good enough for you. That is certainly your right. However, my mother truly wanted a better life for her children, so she taught us to think for ourselves and learn for ourselves. It was the greatest gift I have ever received - much greater than the gift of a unsubstantiated mythology that encourages ignorance.

      June 28, 2012 at 1:33 am |
  4. Steve

    I had never heard of this girl until this article/video. And if a typical blog only got 5,000 views, I understand why: I'm sorry, but she's simply not famous, well known, or authoritative. So the whole article is making a mountain out of a molehill. And her reason for converting isn't likely to convince many atheists, as it doesn't address the "standard" objection at all: namely, there is no evidence for the existence of any supernatural being. What does the desire for morality have to do with the existence of God? On what basis does she assert that morality is external? Even she admits she doesn't have one. She's a girl responding to an overwhelming emotional need, that's all. She has no argument. And it's hardly surprising that she picked Catholicism over anything else since she had a Catholic boyfriend: it's the religion she's familiar with. Nice lure CNN, but there's no actual story here.

    June 28, 2012 at 12:34 am |
  5. HistoryProf

    I always thought the character "God" in the book The Bible had a compelling character arc. He starts out all psycho and egotistical, and then mellows out when he has a son. But it's weird that the authors gave him so much power from the outset. It's a good thing he's not real, and just a character in a book written by people.

    June 28, 2012 at 12:13 am |
  6. Jack

    Good evening everyone. You are all invited to visit ... thestarofkaduri.com

    June 27, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
  7. Steve

    “I know I’ve prayed for her conversion several times, always thinking she would make a great Catholic,” wrote Brandon Vogt.

    What exactly makes a great Catholic? Great speed on the base paths, high on-base percentage, and not a liability on defense? What separates Catholics from Protestants? West coast offense vs. the run-and-shoot?

    June 27, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      I'd say a great Catholic is one who keeps the faith against the persecution of the world.

      June 28, 2012 at 11:48 am |
  8. nottolate

    @A Frayed Knot

    "While you're at the No True Scotsman fallacy, throw in the "God's Unconditional Love" fallacy too."

    Who says God's love is unconditional? I don't buy that for one second and it is certainly unbiblical. Man concocted that notion in attempt to make himself feel good.

    June 27, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
    • Vitis01

      Man "concocted" it all, dude. Extend your own logic. Religion has been "concocted in so many different forms throughout man's history it should be really *&!%#NG obvious that it is made up from word one.

      June 27, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Who says God's love is unconditional?

      @HeIsGod said it, for one of many. @HeIsGod is a "true Christian", she says...

      June 27, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      A Frayed Knot – That's right, God's love is unconditional, but His patience is also limited and God is under no conditions to allow anyone to live another day, including me. We are under His mercy and grace, but sadly, too many people don't see that.

      June 27, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • Johnny Smooth

      God is love, love others as yourself and love the sinner hate the sin are not Biblical?

      June 27, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  9. nottolate

    @HawaiiGuest

    "What version of the bible?"

    That question is irrelevant and juvenile

    June 27, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • LinCA

      @nottolate

      You said, ""What version of the bible?"
      That question is irrelevant and juvenile
      "

      Why would that question be irrelevant or juvenile? Here is a list of English language versions of your fairy tale. Please let us know which one is the best one, and why:
      American Standard Version
      American King James Version
      Amplified Bible
      An American Translation
      ArtScroll Tanakh (Old Testament)
      An American Translation
      Berkeley Version
      Bible in English
      The Bible in Living English
      Bishops' Bible
      Catholic Public Domain Version
      Children's King James Version
      Christian Community Bible, English version
      Clear Word Bible
      Complete Jewish Bible
      Contemporary English Version
      Concordant Literal Version
      A Conservative Version
      Coverdale Bible
      Darby Bible
      Douay-Rheims Bible
      Douay-Rheims Bible (Challoner Revision)
      EasyEnglish Bible
      Easy-to-Read Version
      English Jubilee 2000 Bible
      English Standard Version
      Ferrar Fenton Bible
      Geneva Bible
      God's Word
      Good News Bible
      Great Bible
      Holman Christian Standard Bible
      The Inclusive Bible
      International Standard Version
      Jerusalem Bible
      Jewish Publication Society of America Version Tanakh (Old Testament)
      Judaica Press Tanakh (Old Testament).
      Julia E. Smith Parker Translation
      King James 2000 Version
      King James Easy Reading Version
      King James Version
      King James II Version
      Knox's Translation of the Vulgate
      Lamsa Bible
      A Literal Translation of the Bible
      Leeser Bible, Tanakh (Old Testament)
      The Living Bible
      The Living Torah and The Living Nach. Tanakh (Old Testament)
      Matthew's Bible
      The Message
      Modern King James Version
      Modern Language Bible
      Moffatt, New Translation
      James Murdock's Translation of the Syriac Peshitta
      New American Bible
      New American Standard Bible
      New Century Version
      New English Bible
      New English Translation (NET Bible)
      New International Reader's Version
      New International Version Inclusive Language Edition
      New International Version
      New Jerusalem Bible
      New Jewish Publication Society of America Version. Tanakh (Old Testament)
      New King James Version
      New Life Version
      New Living Translation
      New Revised Standard Version
      New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
      The Orthodox Study Bible
      Quaker Bible
      Recovery Version of the Bible
      Revised Version
      Revised Standard Version
      Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
      Revised English Bible
      Rotherham's Emphasized Bible
      The Scriptures
      Simplified English Bible
      The Story Bible
      Taverner's Bible
      Thomson's Translation
      Today's New International Version
      Third Millennium Bible
      Tyndale Bible
      Updated King James Version
      A Voice In The Wilderness Holy Scriptures
      Webster's Revision
      Westminster Bible
      The Work of God's Children Illustrated Bible
      Wycliffe's Bible (1380)
      Wycliffe's Bible (1388)
      Young's Literal Translation

      June 27, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • LinCA

      If I had to guess, I'd say the Simplified English Bible

      June 27, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Just Claims, No Truth

      notolate,

      It is juvenile to think you have the 'true' definition of Christianity, or god or anything that is subjective. If you are a Christian in the western world your belief has its roots in the Catholic church.

      June 27, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • jasong911

      that's a clown question, bro

      June 28, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • nottolate

      @LinCa,

      "You said, ""What version of the bible?"

      I never said that. I responded his version question was irrelevant and juvenile. Every last one of those translations say the same thing except: New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures which has been tampered with. So the question is irrelevant and juvenile as stated. Its amazing that you unbelievers still ain't figured out that all those translations say the same thing. Then you run around feeling really good about yourselves in asking, "which version?" You even think yourselves clever in asking that. If you'd open them up and look you wouldn't have to ask such a foolish question.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:22 am |
    • nottolate

      @Just Claims, No Truth

      "It is juvenile to think you have the 'true' definition of Christianity, or god or anything that is subjective. If you are a Christian in the western world your belief has its roots in the Catholic church."

      Please...you couldn;t give the forum the true origin of the RCC if your soul depended on it. Your assertions are false. There is but one truth and either you've grasped it and held on to it or you haven't. In your case you obviously haven't being a lazy man.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:27 am |
    • Just Claims, No Truth

      nottolate,

      Lots of words but you don't actually say anything. So why don't you explain which version of Christianity you are associated with that has no connection to the Catholic church? And while you are at it show why your version is the correct one?

      June 28, 2012 at 12:36 am |
    • LinCA

      @nottolate

      You said, "I never said that. I responded his version question was irrelevant and juvenile."
      I left the quotation marks around the original remark from HawaiiGuest from when you quoted him/her, so yes, you did say that.

      You said, "Every last one of those translations say the same thing except: New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures which has been tampered with."
      – If they say the same thing, then why are there so may that specify in their title that they are revisions?
      Douay-Rheims Bible (Challoner Revision)
      New Revised Standard Version
      Revised Version
      Revised English Bible
      Revised Standard Version
      Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
      Webster's Revision

      – If they all say the same, then why are there nine versions of the King James bible?
      American King James Version
      Children's King James Version
      King James 2000 Version
      King James Easy Reading Version
      King James Version
      King James II Version
      Modern King James Version
      New King James Version
      Updated King James Version

      – If they all say the same, then why are there five versions of the New International bible?
      International Standard Version
      New International Reader's Version
      New International Version Inclusive Language Edition
      New International Version
      Today's New International Version

      – If they all say the same, then why are there are you claiming that catholics aren't christians as they have their own version of the bible that you claim is no different from any of the others?
      Revised Standard Version
      Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

      You said, "So the question is irrelevant and juvenile as stated."
      I know that you want to believe that and that you want readers to accept that, but just saying that doesn't make it so. The different version, revisions and translations makes the question relevant. Ignoring the obvious inconsistency on the part of believers is juvenile.

      You said, "Its amazing that you unbelievers still ain't figured out that all those translations say the same thing."
      Its amazing that you believers still haven't figured out that all those translations say the same thing in the aspect that really counts. All of them are fairy tales. All of them are noting more than tools for control of the sheeple.

      You said, "Then you run around feeling really good about yourselves in asking, "which version?""
      Just like christians often feel the urge to warn us non-believers of the dangers lurking after death, we sometimes can't control our rational mind from trying to shake believers out of their stupor.

      You said, "If you'd open them up and look you wouldn't have to ask such a foolish question."
      Most of us did. Most of us became atheists after having read the garbage and recognized it for what it is. Maybe you should take your own advice and read it. I only urge you to do so with an open mind.

      June 28, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      LinCA could you please delineate the substantive dichotomies between any of these versions? I don't mean differences in vernacular or colloquialism. I presume you are honest enough to navigate those without prejudice. I'm looking for theological conflicts between versions of the Bible and specifically where those conflicts intersect with Catholic doctrine.

      June 28, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @nottolate

      Actually, dodging the question and posting lies like "they all say the exact same thing" is the juvenile part.

      June 28, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Bill Deacon

      You said, "could you please delineate the substantive dichotomies between any of these versions?"
      The actual differences are irrelevant. The fact that there are differences is. If this is the supposed word of your god, he did a piss poor job communicating it to his sheeple.

      You said, "I don't mean differences in vernacular or colloquialism."
      But even those differences lead to differences in interpretation. The whole thing is so muddied that it has spawned, by some count, over 38,000 different denominations, sects and cults. All being christian, and all claiming to have the correct interpretation. At most, only one of them can be correct, and even the odds of that aren't very good.

      You said, "I presume you are honest enough to navigate those without prejudice."
      Of course I am. Doing so has led me a long time ago to abandon the entire thing as a fable. All versions of it.

      You said, "I'm looking for theological conflicts between versions of the Bible and specifically where those conflicts intersect with Catholic doctrine."
      Theology is the discussion of the fabric, the cut, the colors and patterns of the emperor's new clothes.

      June 28, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
  10. nottolate

    Gosh...when are you people gonna figure out Catholicism ain't Christianity? They're called Catholic for a reason you know.

    June 27, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      Amen, nottolate. I totally agree with you 100%, nottolate. Catholics have done more harm then good. They are preaching their own doctrines instead of leading people to the Word of God. They have their own rules instead of following God's command.

      June 27, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • Steve

      Good paperback books on the history of Christianity can be bought for about the price of a decent meal at a restaurant. Try getting one.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:11 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      "What Catholics Really Believe" is a simple, accessible primer Protestants might read before interacting with Catholics from the perspective of divisiveness. Another one is "Why Do Catholics Do That"

      June 28, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • WWJD

      No, but Catholicism is part of Christianity. Same as Mormons, the various Orthodox churches, the countless Protestant Churches. You may not like Catholicism but that doesn't exclude it from Christianity

      June 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
  11. Trekgeek1

    That's very strange. People lose religion and people find religion everyday. That is not the strange part. What is strange is that her primary motivation was source of external morality. That really seems like something that would push somebody to deism. An atheist would most likely doubt the entire Christian narrative. So it seems strange that because she wanted an external source of morality (e.g. a deity), she would be able to suddenly accept all the baggage that comes with it. A philosophical discussion of the roots of morality is one thing, but now she has accepted a belief system that has multiple claims which are demonstrably false. Oh well, there's no accounting for taste I guess.

    June 27, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
  12. nottolate

    Wow... she still doesn't get she's still an unbeliever. Catholics are not Christian. The headline could have read: Unbeliever reaffirms unbelief.

    June 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Oh that's right, everyone who doesn't believe in YOUR brand isn't really a christian. What was that fallacy again?

      June 27, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • nottolate

      @HawaiiGuest

      "Oh that's right, everyone who doesn't believe in YOUR brand isn't really a christian. What was that fallacy again?"

      And just what is my brand? Since you claim I have a "brand" why don't you tell the whole forum just what it is? What I speak comes right out of the bible and nowhere else. Perhaps if you read it you'd know these things to instead of being caught foolish slinging insults.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      nottolate,

      While you're at the No True Scotsman fallacy, throw in the "God's Unconditional Love" fallacy too.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @nottolate

      What version of the bible?

      June 27, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      I totally agree with you 100%, nottolate. Catholics have done more harm then good. They are preaching their own doctrines instead of leading people to the Word of God. They have their own rules instead of following God's command.

      June 27, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
    • Patrick

      Rubbish!
      No where int he bible does it say that catholics are not christians. catholicism didn't even exist when the bible was written ffs. You're all mad

      June 27, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • Huh?

      Wot in hell does the name "not *to* late" mean? Are you not headed in the direction of late or something?

      June 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • WWJD

      You do realise that by definition Christians worship Christ right? So how do you determine that Catholics are not Christians?

      June 28, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
  13. HeIsGod

    Looking at Clouds – Sorry to hear that after 50 years searching you found nothing. Could it be because you were not searching with your heart or were you too busy focusing on mankind that you forgot about God? I don't need to pretend that there is a God to make me feel better about myself. It's the actual spiritual experience and the miracles that I've seen with my own eyes that it couldn't have been no one but God that perform such wonderful deeds in my life as well on some of the people that I prayed for, including their healing.

    June 27, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Praying, miracles and healing? Please share with us.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      VOC – I've been healed of cancer, yes, I went to the doctor to confirm that I had it. Seen my mother healed, a man raised from near death, financial miracles, etc. etc.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      Oh, ROV, the healing that my mother had, even the doctors said it would take years for her open wounds to close because of her diabetic and they were closed with days after I prayed for her.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      So, medicine didn't have anything to do with your cure? Did you just pray and you were cured of cancer? Financial miracles? Please explain. Also the man raised from near death, please explain. Thanks in advance!

      June 27, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      VOR – I took no medicine whatsoever and I am not lying to you. I also had a mass tumor in my right kidney that my doctor found and I trusted God and when I went back to the Dr. it was gone. I have seen people healed of cancer and aids too. Through the toughest times of my financial time, my husband and I were living only one paycheck, had 2 car notes, among other bills, rent and I barely made enough to make it through, but by God's grace, I was able to manage.

      The man I am talking about that was near death, I didn't know who he was. He has here from MX, but my husband knew him and his family who were in MX at the time he was in the hospital. He was dehydrated and became very sick. We went to see him and my husband and I prayed for him. When I left, the nurse said that she has never seen him in peace in the past 3 days since he was there and he fell asleep when I left. When his wife came down from MX to see him, I spoke with her and she told me that the doctors said that there was no hope for him and to expect the worse and that he could die. Any, I prayed from my house and went to the hospital a couple of times to pray for him and his family. The next day after I prayed for him, he was just running a fever that was uncontrollable. The last day I saw him, he was up and talking to his family and his wife presented me to him.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      A young lady, befriended by a nice man..... Spent time together in a caffe. They walk together , sightseeing. They make plans for spending rest of afternoon together. He says he jsut needs to make a short phone call to a friend. They find a phone booth. She waits outside, distance away, happy about plans they made. Suddenly she has a urge to look at him. As he looked at him she seen an evil man. HE WAS an evil man, and if God didn't send His angel to warn her, she would have ended up to be another casualty. She could have never seen that man who he really was, if God did not open her eyes. She was a child of God, and He warned her!
      This is a TRUE STORY, but there are many more, but to the ones who refuse to believe, only one thing will do. And that Will come soon enough!

      June 27, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    • Just Claims, No Truth

      A guy lived next door to a family with a dog, the dog talked to him, he then killed people. This is also a true story.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:04 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      NTJC, you are a lifeless blob, having no ability to know the truth or to claim anything at all. Go join the rest of your kind!

      June 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Just Claims, No Truth

      Prism, you make me smile....

      June 28, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, Higgy, did you attempt to pretend you have a single brain cell again?

      You KNOW you can't do that when you post complete drivel, don't you?

      June 28, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
  14. Voice of Reason

    Debates about god are moot because it doesn't exist, period.

    June 27, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      And where is your proof of your claim? How or what are you going to do to convince us? When you can bring me proof that there is no God, then I will follow your thinking, but for now, I will believe in the God who is real to me.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      To be perfectly honest with you I really don't know but there hasn't been any proof that I have seen to make me think otherwise. Do you have something to offer?

      June 27, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      Well, most of you atheists assume that I was raised in a religion, which I was only told that I was a Catholic, but never went to church, prayed, or even practiced it. It wasn't until 17 years ago that I was invited to a non-denominational Christian church that's not a Catholic that I was convinced that there is a God, not because it was being preached but because I felt His presence. The only thing I have to offer you is encouragement for you to open up your heart, that's all.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Likes to Read

      Voice of Reason, if you claim to be a person of reason and science, you must remember that the scientific method requires that you must prove that something is false or does not exist in order to make the claim that it is indeed false or does not exist. That's the crux of the "irrationality" and dare I say "emotional" basis in which athiests proclaim that "God does not exist." It would be perfectly reasonable however to proclaim yourself an agnositc rather than an athiest.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • Patrick

      @Likes to read, you are obviously not familiar with the scientific method! You would be ridiculed for postulating a theory that cannot be proved. when you develop a hypothesis for scientific examination, you have to at least postulate something that is amenable to the scientific method of inquiry, you know, that method that has given the human race every technological and medical advance in the last century. The one that has been validated over and over again. You can't apply the scientific method to something that has no basis in reality, something that is based on "faith"

      June 27, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Rowan Darklee

      At least someone here has some basic reasoning skills. Thank you for being rational. I am stunned by the idiocy of these sheeple. They seem to think that it is the responsibility of others to prove there is NOT a god. Well, can they prove that vampires, fairies, werewolves, Santa Claus and Xenu do not exist? Of course not. Seriously, anyone who believes that a magic anorexic stapled to a crucifix is ethereally stalking all humans is an idiot who should jump out of the gene pool.

      July 1, 2012 at 8:24 am |
  15. henny b

    Sell out.

    June 27, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
  16. bruce

    Pascal said Atheism is irrational because it has no upside. Even if you are right you don;t win. Well after my experience with the Catholic Cult er Church there is a great upside to Atheism, you no longer have to deal with the Alpha Male Wanna Be's who abuse children and abuse their followers in a number of ways. I feel sorry for the blogger who joined. Like Paul said they are above all to be pitied. I have just one question if any Christian is willing to answer. Your religion is based on three principles a chord of three strands if you will 1) God made the world perfect, 2)Mankind screwed it up 3)Mankind needed a savior . Almost all mainline Christian religions say Evolution is not incompatible with their religion. Perfection is the absolute enemy of evolution. Evolution could not have occurred in perfection. They also say God could have used evolution to get us here. Explain this to me, if the world was not perfect and thus sinful How could God hold Mankind responsible for sin? If God if did not make the world perfect, which if evolution is correct he did not, how could man have screwed it up it was already screwed up when we got here and if Mankind did not screwit up why do we need a savior?

    June 27, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      bruce

      There is no way that you will be able to make sense of nonsense and that's all god and religion is, nonsense. Stick to the facts that are proven until someone can prove differently.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
  17. HeIsGod

    She realized how closed minded atheists are and decided that she doesn't belong to such a powerless and foolish group.

    June 27, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Close minded? Do you really think atheists are close minded? I guess you do since you posted it, right? How in the world do you come to that conclusion? Please explain.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Everett Mack

      She fell in love and doesn't want to lose her boyfriend....lol. It is pretty simple to see.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • Patrick

      Please tell me that is a joke? Atheists are close-minded? I'm assuming you mean because they choose to not believe in god or jesus or some other fairy tale, usually through rational and logical examination of the facts. It's no small point that the majority of scientists are atheists, and you won't find a more open group of people on the planet. In my experience, the more religious a person is, the more close-mined they become, it's all down to trying to defend the indefensible.

      June 27, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      I think Everett Mack's post illustrates what Helsgod is saying succinctly. He has made up his mind that the young ladies conversion is motivated by her boyfriend with no other information than that she has a boyfriend. Seems like conjecture and close mindedness to me.

      June 28, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Get Real

      Bill Deacon,

      HeIsGod succinct? That's the biggest laugh I have had all day! She is one of the most closed-minded flea brains in the entire blogosphere.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  18. Jack

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    June 27, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
  19. HeIsGod

    @ concern scientist – IF atheists don't give a frack what invisible friend others believe in, what are you doing here? Why are they so stuck on a God that they don't believe in?

    What is it about God that He EVEN draws all unbelievers??

    June 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • Chad

      @HeIsGod "What is it about God that He EVEN draws all unbelievers??"

      =>Love

      June 27, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      Of course it's His love, but here is the thing, Chad, they don't want to see that. They have been too blinded by their own self worship and self praise that they think they don't need God's LOVE.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Chad

      As a former non-believer, drug to the cross kicking and screaming, I can tell you that many/most non-believers in Jesus Christ do so because they don't want to recognize His authority.
      That's what it all really boils down to, we dont want someone else telling us what to do.

      but, here's the thing that I'm slowly discovering; He alone know's best, and He alone truly loves.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      HeIsGod,

      That has been explained to you at least a thousand times. Never mind. You are going to think whatever you want anyway. Forget it.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      Chad – Totally agree with you, but here is another thing, we have given a free will to choice God's path of salvation or the path of destruction and even though God knows best, we are without excuse.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • HeIsGod

      A Frayed Knot – One of the things that I have seen from atheist's comments is that most of them have been raised in Catholics, gone to a Catholic church and had a very bad experience. The sad thing is, religion draws people from God and that's not what God wants. Religion has misinterpret God so bad that many people are running from God instead of running to God. That's why God sent His Son to die on the Cross for us because of our sinful nature and a RELATIONSHIP with God through Christ makes a difference in the world in our lives.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Looking at Clouds

      HeIsGod & Chad,

      Sometimes I almost wish that your fantasy scenario were true. Pretty slick. I had that fantasy for nearly 50 years. The deal is though, there is no-one up/out/over/under there unless I make myself pretend that there is.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
    • Chad

      I dont know.
      Had I not been set up from the beginning to be forced to seek and find, I doubt I would have.

      Pray that each and everyone of them comes to the end of themselves, and they cry out to God.

      There are no atheists in foxholes.

      June 27, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
    • Chad

      @Looking at Clouds " I had that fantasy for nearly 50 years. The deal is though, there is no-one up/out/over/under there unless I make myself pretend that there is."

      =>how do you explain
      1. The origin of the universe
      2. The fine tuning of the universe for the building blocks of life
      3. The origin of life on earth
      4. Punctuated Equilibrium: the fossil record showing species experiencing millions, 100's of millions of years of stasis (no change, random genetic mutations are weeded out of the gene pool resulting in a pool 'wobbling about the genetic mean'), followed by extremely rapid change resulting in new species appearing fully formed in the fossil record.
      5. The empty tomb, and the unshakable conviction among followers and enemies alike that they had witnesses a resurrected Jesus. A conviction they held so strongly that they went to their deaths proclaiming its truth.

      doesnt it bother you at some level that the only answer is "that's all nonsense"?

      What about the historicity of Jesus?

      what was the event that caused you to fall away?

      June 27, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Looking at Clouds

      Chad,

      Could there be *any* other explanation(s)? Perhaps a way or ways which we don't even know about yet?

      I have read your debate on other pages here, and while your staunchness and tenacity are apparent, I do not see your contentions as verified evidence of your alleged supernatural scenario.

      June 27, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Chad

      @Looking at Clouds "Could there be *any* other explanation(s)? "

      =>sure, there could be,
      do you have any?

      June 28, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • WWJD

      Actually it's plural. Atheists don't believe in any of the 1000's of gods that theists believe in.

      June 28, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • Cq

      Yup! You're either 100% atheist, or a 99.999% atheist Christian, Muslim, or Jew. If you're Hindu I guess you could be about 99% atheist, which makes them the least atheist of anyone.

      June 28, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Cq

      Chad
      You're getting to be as big a cut-and-paste man as our friend Reality. How many times go you need these same questions answered?

      June 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Chad

      @Cq "You're getting to be as big a cut-and-paste man as our friend Reality. How many times go you need these same questions answered?"

      =>once would be sufficient..

      July 1, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  20. joey

    i have been on both sides of this issue, and i believe that the underlying issue is that we are limited beings. we want to be able to understand everything, but there are some concepts that are beyond our abilities to comprehend. i think that many make the jump from inability to understand to therefore it doesn't exist. i know that for me that was the case. yet i was never comfortable with it, as i would revisit my beliefs again and again. it wasn't until i realized the hubris of such a position that i was able to come to understand where i belonged. there are concepts which are beyond human comprehension. prime mover comes to mind. that yearning to understand that people have can be interpreted in different ways, and "knowing" the answer leads only to intransigence and an unwillingness to grow. it is easy to get stuck when one feels the need to defend a position. evolution appears to be a normal course as one gains understanding.

    June 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
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