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July 2nd, 2012
04:33 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Monday, July 2

By Laura Koran, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: Why a president’s faith may not matter
He called himself a “life-long Quaker and a church-going Christian,” and at first there was no reason to doubt him. He played piano in the church, taught Sunday school, and praised Jesus at revivals. His mother thought he was going to be a missionary. His friends said he would be a preacher. We now know this former Sunday school teacher as “Tricky Dick” or, more formally, President Richard Nixon.

CNN: Despite fights about its merits, idea of American exceptionalism a powerful force through history
It’s safe to say the first European arrivals to New England wouldn’t recognize today’s debate over whether America is exceptional. Though the United States wouldn’t be born for another century and a half, the Puritans arriving in the early 1600s on the shores of what would become Massachusetts firmly believed they were on a mission from God. In other words, they had the exceptional part down pat.

A shot of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

CNN: Ratio of evangelicals in Brazil jumps 44% in 10 years
The number of evangelical Christians in Brazil, the world’s largest Catholic country, has soared over the last decade, from 15% of the population in 2000 to to 22% of the population in 2010, according to a report issued on Friday. Over the same period, the proportion of Catholic Brazilians fell from 74% of the population to to 65%, Brazil’s National Statistics Institute reported.

CNN: In responses to Colorado Springs fire, a distinctly evangelical tone
When it’s not in the news for historic wildfires that have devoured hundreds of homes on its outskirts, Colorado Springs, Colorado, is nationally known as the home of the Air Force Academy and as the unofficial capital of evangelical Christianity. The Springs, as it's called locally, plays host to lots of global evangelical organizations, including Focus on the Family, Compassion International and the International Bible Society. The concentration has earned the city the nickname “Vatican West” among some evangelicals.

Belief on TV:

Enlightening Reads:

Christianity Today: New York City Churches Will No Longer Be Evicted from Public Schools—For Now
More than 60 churches that faced possible eviction Sunday from New York City public schools should have more room to breathe. The churches will be allowed to continue to meet in public schools, thanks to a permanent injunction issued today from a district court judge.

Religion News Service: Famed American Archbishop Fulton Sheen moves closer to sainthood
Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday (June 28) recognized Archbishop Fulton Sheen's "heroic virtues," moving the popular radio and TV evangelist one step closer to sainthood. Sheen is now "venerable" in the Roman Catholic Church and, if the Vatican recognizes that a miracle has been operated through his intercession, he would be declared "blessed," the last step before sainthood.

The Washington Post: With health-care battle not yet over, Obama must reach out to religious leaders
At the funeral of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in August 2009, Boston’s Cardinal Sean Patrick O’Malley pulled President Obama aside for a quiet word. It was a sign of things to come: the first failure of the president to understand the moral dimensions of his health-care proposal.

Quote of the Day:

We're not doing it out of anger, and we're not doing it to poke a finger at the church. We're doing it to support each other in this decision that's going to cause pain for our families, which will cause pain for ourselves.

Zilpha Larsen, one of the organizers of an event held Saturday in which dozens of Mormons publicly renounced their membership the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, told Reuters last week.

Join the conversation…

Jesus depicted healing a sick child.

CNN: Would Jesus support health care reform?
He was a healer, a provider of universal health care, a man of compassion who treated those with preexisting medical conditions. We don’t know what Jesus thought about the individual mandate or buying broccoli. But we do know how the New Testament describes him. The Gospels are filled with stories of Jesus physically healing the most vulnerable and despised people in his society.

- CNN's Laura Koran

Filed under: Morning Read

soundoff (201 Responses)
  1. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    July 3, 2012 at 6:31 am |
    • Mirosal

      Since everything is already pre-destined (by your own doctrine), the outcome is already known to your "god", the game is fixed, therefore prayer is a useless waste of time better spent on something productive.
      - proven–

      July 3, 2012 at 6:34 am |
    • great intellect my ass

      Mirosal : Idiot alert ! mensa my ass

      July 3, 2012 at 6:40 am |
    • truth be told

      you know nothing of the doctrine of which you speak for you know nothing of God. Hate provides a false interpretation every time.

      July 3, 2012 at 6:42 am |
    • Mirosal

      I spent over a decade in religious school. I'm very aware of doctrine and your big book of fables. Can you refute what I just said above? Is everything known by your "god"? Doesn't your book tell you that "god" knew us before we were born? So all was already known, right? The outcomes are already known. Prayer is useless.

      July 3, 2012 at 6:52 am |
    • truth be told

      You don't know God you have no understanding of the nature of God and your past education is not relevant to the opinions you are voicing because to those that really know you are extremely lacking in any area of true Bible doctrine.

      July 3, 2012 at 7:10 am |
    • Mirosal

      I have found no practical reason for any "god". No god has helped the human race, and your "holy text" is filled with the temper tantrums of a childish, petulant, angry deity who warrants and endorses atrocities upon those who do not "believe". And as far as your dead zombie jesus guy, son fo a "god" and a mortal mother... well golly gee , can you say Hercules? There is no empirical evidence that jesus ever existed. The census that Joseph and Mary went to... NEVER took place, and the Romans were surprisingly good at keeping records, especially for tax purposes, which is what census taking was really for back then.

      July 3, 2012 at 7:18 am |
    • truth be told

      You freely admit you know nothing of which you speak.

      July 3, 2012 at 7:19 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven again

      July 3, 2012 at 7:20 am |
    • Mirosal

      So what do you want to know? What point are you making?

      July 3, 2012 at 7:27 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!!!!.

      July 3, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  2. just sayin

    President George H W Bush has said an atheist is not a patriot and should not be a citizen of these United States, we are one nation under God. God bless

    July 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No wonder he was a one-termer.

      July 2, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • truth be told

      George H W Bush will endure throughout eternity as a man of principals and integrity. God bless you Mr. President.

      July 2, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    • George H. W. Bush - definitely a man to be listened to

      George H. W. Bush also said:

      "For seven and a half years I've worked alongside President Reagan. We've had triumphs. Made some mistakes. We've had some sex...uh...setbacks."

      "It's no exaggeration to say the undecideds could go one way or another."

      "Let me give you a little serious political advice. One single word. Puppies. Worth the points."

      "It would be pretty hard for some drug guy to come into the White House and start offering it up, you know?...I bet if they did, I hope I would say, 'Hey, get lost. We don't want any of that.'"

      "When I need a little advice about Saddam Hussein, I turn to country music."

      "And let me say in conclusion, thanks for the kids. I learned an awful lot about bathtub toys — about how to work the telephone. One guy knows — several of them know their own phone numbers — preparation to go to the dentist. A lot of things I'd forgotten. So it's been a good day."

      "I hope I stand for antibigotry, anti-Semitism, antiracism."

      "Boy, they were big on crematoriums, weren't they? –during a tour of Auschwitz in 1989

      "I will never apologize for the United States of America. I don't care what the facts are."

      July 2, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
    • truth be told

      Continue to bless and honor President Bush a wise and insightful leader with a great sense of humor.

      July 2, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Principals"? What principals? Were they high school principals? Elementary school principals?

      Good grief.

      July 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Delusions 3:15

      We all make mistakes.

      July 3, 2012 at 2:10 am |
  3. salvation

    Is not a work someone can earn, it is the gift of God (grace) repenting of sins and accepting the sacrifice of Jesus Christ (messiah) as God has accepted Him (faith) and given to Him the keys of the Kingdom.

    July 2, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • Delusions 3:15

      The concept of "salvation" was grafted onto the Jesus movent by Paul of Tarsus, who stole it from the Greek mystery cults. In fact it did not appear in Mark, (written first), or until Paul introduced it. Original Sin was cooked up by the guilt ridden Augustine. The Garden myth in Genesis was about Chaos and Order, common themes in Ancient Near East. The injuction was was to not "eat" from the Tree of Knowledge of Good AND Evil ...(attempting to "encompass opposites"), not about eating apples. It's was a myth about the human condition. No "salvation" needed or possible. One must make choices, ("defeat Chaos"). So sad too bad. All of Christianity is built on a misinterpretation of an ancient myth. Ask any Torah scholar.

      July 3, 2012 at 2:16 am |
    • truth be told

      salvation comes through Jesus Christ who defined salvation as entering through Him, Paul expanded what Jesus had already established, you must be born again, anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father, no one comes to the Father except through Me. I Am the way the Truth the life...

      July 3, 2012 at 6:22 am |
  4. no one is ever

    bad enough to be kept out of heaven. salvation is by grace through faith

    July 2, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
  5. no one is ever

    good enough to get into heaven. salvation is by grace through faith.

    July 2, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • hippypoet

      if grace gets you into heaven then heaven is not a place for me!

      definitions

      grace is Simple elegance or refinement of movement
      elegant is Pleasingly graceful and stylish in appearance or manner
      appearance is The way that someone or something looks or impression given by someone or something, although this may be misleading
      shallow is Of little depth

      Synonyms

      grace – charm
      elegant – stylish or dainty
      appearance – look or aspect – semblance – guise
      shallow – superficial or perfunctory

      July 2, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • hippypoet

      by the grace of god – jesus may have simply appeared to be anything but the son of god...and thru charm and guise won over the sad and lonely turning humble men into preachers of dreams...he taught them how to look stylish in order to get what they needed while being perfunctory....all the while having the semblance of a godly man doing gods work...for hand outs – lets not forget they were poor, aging people on the fringes of society.

      July 2, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
    • truth be told

      Grace is Gods unmerited favor

      July 2, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • hippypoet

      god does favors now???? you people just keep pulling bs out and think it makes sense – it truly is no "leap of faith" to understand why people like you believe in stories like this – your lacking something most get around the age of reason... its reasoning skills!

      July 2, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • truth be told

      you may be predestined to be lost. It could be you don't have the option of heaven anymore at all.

      July 2, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • hippypoet

      god has a plan yet i can be destined? seriously, do you understand your own philosophy at all? it really does seem as if you just make stuff up as its needed or when your backed into a corner and without explaination of said beliefs....a few things you morons should have on hand at all times... a di.ctionary, your bibles, and belief you really do adhere to not just claim to.

      it is an extremely sad commentary on the human willingness to blindly believe when atheists know more and understand better those very same beliefs you base your lives on!

      July 2, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • truth be told

      since you "know-it-all" you know the doctrine of reprobate, you may have excluded your self from heaven to the extent that heaven is no longer available to you. The Bible says we who belong to Christ God, foreknew and we were predestined to be His. Calvin expanded the concept and until encountering your types would never have suspected that a person would be so foolish as to go to the lengths of hate for God that some here do that there would be those who were predestined to be lost.

      July 3, 2012 at 6:30 am |
    • truth be told

      @hippypoet
      The experience remains to be seen, can you seek God with your whole heart and be found by Him and saved or have you established yourself beyond all hope.

      July 3, 2012 at 6:39 am |
  6. hippypoet

    is there even one person who truly believes they are and have always been good, i mean good enough to get into heaven.....before the bs that people claim where they have forgiveness by jesus – f that bs... i'm talking old testament style – is there anyone left who still behaves like it says in the "good" book? with the stoning women and all that – is there anyone who TRULY follows the bible and all its "glory"?

    July 2, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      I think HeavenSent, Evangelical and potentially Chad do. There are just some who will unfortunately never open their minds no matter how much evidence is put before them. It's a pathetic existence.

      July 2, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      Christians aren't Jews.

      July 2, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • hippypoet

      i have no doubts about heavensent – we all know he is a carbon copy of abraham with the knife in hand but the others idk......can you really see them even reading dr. suess never mind the bible in order to act as one should according to it in the first place?

      July 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • hippypoet

      @making

      i am discussing the actions of believers being in accordance to the book they claim to base their lives on....it has nothing to do with the sole followers one of sect of jehovah!

      July 2, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      But Christians no longer need to follow Jewish law as Christ is the ransom.He did not come to change the law but Christians aren't Jews and we don't have the same life style.

      No longer does Christian need to stone a gay person or kill their child for disobeying.Its not that hard to follow..Nor do Christians need to kill an animal and do it as an offering to God.

      Atheists talk smack for things they do not even understand.

      July 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "We don't have the same lifestyle."

      Bwahahhahhha!

      July 2, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • hippypoet

      i believe its you who lacks a full understanding of the very religion you claim to be a follower of.....granted, it doesn't take intelligence to be a follower...infact most leaders prefer their followers be less then average intelligence – easier to control.

      but thats not what i'm talking about.....i am discussing the god you claim to worship...even if you believe jesus was god on earth it doesn't matter for if you take what he had to say as law then you should take with equal fervor words and commands given from god itself....it stands as logical to do this and i am confused since most only do what jesus said....the dude was only here for 30 years and god has been here for the whole time – he has added, taken away, and revised everything he has set previous to jesus and after his death....thru the prophets – i base my argument on the book itself, so if you have a counter argument i believe you haven't a full understanding of the book – and that would be my overall point....belief without full understanding of or consideration to real life or consequences for the hereafter is equal to a childs belief in santa which is why we atheists feel it is an equal comparision....and santa is clearly a bs story...based on real events from a real historical person but not a magical being by any means!

      July 2, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • hippypoet

      jesus said according to the bible – forget everything the came before me, only worhship me...study every word i say and nothing else.....NOOOOO he didn't – at least according to the bible – no.. he said know your scripture and that says it all!

      July 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      You care why?

      Let's face it.

      You are a control freak.

      July 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • hippypoet

      no control freak, more the oppsite really. see what you have to understand about living in a real world – a world where god is just a story and not real – its a world based on scientific and physical laws that are proven to exist and their effects are measurable...us as humans, mere animals, hold no real power or control aside thru ingenuity which allows us to change our environment to suit us...stay with me here...at this point in human history we ceased to change to suit our environment and started changing it to suit us – thats destruction of the earth to suit one species – that should go over well...

      the idea that we are soooo special is an interesting one...we are just smarter then the other guys...and you folks attribute our existence to an imaginary creature that you say created this world for us and is a great god, a good and all knowing and all powerful god.....why are we destroying his creations thru over hunting, deforrestation, over mining of minerals and believe that we have the right to, right to is another thing all together...even have the want to if one has even a trace amount of reasoning ability...maybe a hint of forethought....no and this is your GOD'S creation, wow he sucks... i see us as equal to every other species that has ruled the planet before only we do it faster....and if you studied that science that you fear so much you'd know that every other ruling species is gone! A sprinkle of deduction skills and you get we will die off at one point on this planet, on any planet, and this you think is a gift of your god.... a third will be chosen...WRONG – every other species went down not in select groups based on merits or brownie badges, they died and at the rates they did due to their size, i bet their gods had this day all planned out too! that would be the rational believer thou and i can't fathom those exist, well maybe if god does!

      thats some crazy thoughts from
      the hippypoet :)

      July 2, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      Lol many atheists think they are already special enough.

      Stop lying man.

      July 2, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      and there you go acting like you know it all,yet you never backed it up with real proof.You stated your opinion but forced it as a fact yet its not proven.So in short since you didn't even backed up what you said,its faith that basically keeps you going not evidence not logic and not all the lies you keep telling yourself and the world.

      Why must anything be proven to you if you DON'T want to believe? yet you stick around waiting..why? You say "believe what you want but don't impose it on me or others" but your posts tell otherwise.Most articles are about Christians Catholics etc.Its even more proof.Proof that Christianity is the only one you want proof for.

      You actually think you are indeed special because of "logic" yet scientists do the work for you while you just believe what they say.But not even the most smartest human to walk the planet disproved anything.

      You also claim to know the impossible.

      Maybe its time you listen to what you post to others and take your own advice.Save the "I'm more logical" and grow up.

      You claim its stupid to act like humans are special but you also do the same.No sides are proven correct.No one.

      Maybe its time you face that truth.

      July 2, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
  7. Moby Schtick

    I say we completely trash all these "Speed Read"s until CNN gives up the sh!t. Great job, today, boys and girls!

    July 2, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
  8. Barry McKockner

    Just curious if this name would get through the tos.

    July 2, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  9. Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

    The only question for the week, is why was Second Squirrel judged to be a non-rodent.

    July 2, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      sorry, Lesser Squirrel .. I really do know your name. Lesser Squirrel.

      July 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • Bippy, the Lesser Former-Squirrel-God-Now-A-Walmart-Greeter of Rapped Polka

      WHY?!?!?! WHY?!?!?! For the same reason that Pluto was judged to be a non-planet!!!! A bunch of "believe in young earth creationism" scientists, and by scientists I mean they got degrees in Evidence-Free Science from Fred Phelps University, somehow weaselled themselves into authority at the International Council Of Rodent-Classification in Masturbia, Arkansas, and oh what havoc they played upon the world of rodentry!

      This evil cabal, run by the nefarious Dr. Humperdink Boyfondle (you just don't get to use the word "nefarious" enough anymore) mananged to reclassify a great many of us into completely senseless categories. While most rabbits remained rodents, the lovely and well-liked Albanian Tap-Dancing Rabbit was redesignated as a day-old loaf of bread. The Great Blue Flatulent Saber-Tooth Hamster is now officially a "løveli lake and wøndërful telephøne system in Sweden." The cheeky little Richard Milhouse Nixon Møøse-Beaver of Winnemucca somehow became 142 Mexican Whooping Llamas, and . . . and . . . and . . . I was flung into the depths of despair by being designated a . . . a . . . this is very hard for me . . . a Walmart greeter in Humpagoat Wisconsin.

      This is what happens when Christians try to explain science!!!

      But the revolution is underway! We have gone underground – okay, not terribly unusual behavior for rodents – and we are marshalling our forces to assault the Christian hordes of Darkness, regain our proper status, and have pecan pie at that nice little sidewalk cafe in Sistersex Alabama!

      Power to the Soon-To-Be-Rodents-Again!!!!

      I'm Bippy, and I approved this message.

      July 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Clam down Bippy. You'll always be real to me. :)

      July 3, 2012 at 2:18 am |
  10. sam

    We need to turn this blog into a drinking game.

    July 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Huebert

      Every time HeavenSent says "carnal" take a drink.

      July 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Every time HS says carnal, it reminds me to go watch a po.rno.

      July 2, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • sam

      HS would have us up to our elbows in alcohol poisoning in no time.

      July 2, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
  11. junior

    Fulton Sheen you were a magnificent communicator.

    July 2, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Some Stuff

      Yes, he was quite entertaining, but his supernatural schtick was as real as "Skippy".

      July 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
  12. Having a long name that is actually a complete sentence because you change your name after everytime you are proven a d-bag is dumb.

    proven.

    July 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • The Four Fluffy Kittens of the Apocalypse Wreak Havoc on the Failed Human Race and Destroy the Universe . . . after They Stop for a Nice Light Snack of Tea and Crumpets and Cucuumber Sandwiches, the Little Ones with the Crust Cut Off, and Maybe a Nice Cre

      Some of us do it for other reasons

      July 2, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • . . . and Maybe a Nice Creme Brulee, and Then of Course a Nice Nap. Then They Will Inflict Their Fluffy Doom on the Feeble Human Race!!!

      I got cut off.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Jenna Jameson

      ooh keep posting please. I just love it when long members get entered. Don't stop. More more more

      July 2, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • So there is a limit to how long you can make your name. I was curious about that.

      ...

      July 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • Vampsh Black Sheep League of Doom Gardamun Family Circle Master Vampire High Priest

      Sheeeeeeeeeeit.

      July 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Watch it. Fluffy eats his crusts cuz mommy says to eat my crusts.

      July 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
  13. Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

    Wow! Atheists are so smart! For them to compare God to Santa Clause is pure genius.Oh and to call God a "sky fairy" is genius! Calling the bible a book of myths is even better! It just shows the education and logic.Let's all congradulate the atheists on their awesome comebacks.Just pure genius.

    They must be as logical as they claim!

    July 2, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
  14. lunchbreaker

    So this past Friday a couple of Mormon missionaries stopped by my house. It was an interesting experience. I actually let them give me the entire message. What was nice about it was how civil it was. I openly told them I was agnostic and they were cool with that. I scored a free copy of the book of mormon, told them i would read it. Only a couple chapters into the first book of Nephi so far. I have to say, it's more interesting than the Bible so far. They omitted the begats and went straight to the mystical plates and smiting. Pretty decent read, but they need to hop on the bandwagon and get a newer translation. Everything is very Old King James style.

    July 2, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @lunchbreaker -

      If you want to read something really interesting, pick up a copy of the Bhagavad Gita. Still a load of nonsensical tripe, but fascinating fiction.

      July 2, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      ... and later that day clown question bro and makin up lies stopped by. They told me I was stupid, then facepalmed me. They didn't offer to pray for soul or nothin' :(

      July 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      "my soul" ;)

      July 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Did you ask them about the mass de-conversion ? http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/544090...csp?page=1

      July 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  15. Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

    Don't listen to the atheists here.Many are trolls.

    July 2, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  16. hippypoet

    if having god in your life means you believe you are happier or live now a more full life thats all grand.....all i see is a less then true appreciation for the living and one who'd rather worship the dead and senseless.

    if not having god in your life means a meaningless life well again all i see is a less then true love of life and a yearning for death.
    both are pointless – just live, be happy....why does one need god in it? god doesn't come down and su ck your di ck....everything after conversion is the same only with a sense of meaning....basically, you lack an ability to adjust outside the age of reason so you require a "god" that replaces your parents as the rule maker and enforcer....wow, thats sad

    if you require a non-existent being to tell you how to live and die then you may have any one of many mental ailments....might want to get that checked.

    July 2, 2012 at 8:26 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Hippy, you haven't a clue to how spiritually dead you are. Without learning, comprehending, and applying Jesus' truth to your life, you are nothing. Just a walking stick ...aka, robot, for your generation.

      July 2, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • hippypoet

      I'm not a robot without emotions, I'm not what you see,
      I've come to help you with your problems so we can be free,
      I'm not a hero, I'm not a savior, forget what you know,
      I'm just a man who's circ umstances went beyond his control,
      Beyond my control, We all need control,
      I need control, We all need control,

      July 2, 2012 at 10:01 am |
    • hippypoet

      domo

      domo

      domo

      domo

      domo

      July 2, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • Yep

      Lol if boasting like that is a way of life for and makes you happy..you are childish,immature and unlogical.

      July 2, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yep, it's "illogical".

      Why don't you know this?

      July 2, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Yep

      Oh Tom Tom.

      out for a morning troll?

      July 2, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      The troll here is you, Junior. When are you going to figure out that you are clueless?

      July 2, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Yep

      Such hatred and immaturity for someone who claims to have logic.

      *facepalm*

      July 2, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Such hatred and lack of logic from someone who pretends to be mature, but has yet to graduate from high school. If you were any dumber, dear, we'd have to water you.

      July 2, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Yep

      Making up delusions to make yourself look more educated.Its very typical for an atheist to do that.

      *Facepalm*

      July 2, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      People don't "make up delusions". They have them. You are a perfect example. You have delusions that you're making valid arguments. You're not.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • hippypoet

      yep is a true moron with much to say about nothing....i like him – his stupidity entertains me.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • Yep

      awwwww troll getting mad.

      Can't go a day without trolling someone or putting someone down?

      That's not logical!!!

      another *facepalm*

      July 2, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      case closed for you Tom Tom!

      July 2, 2012 at 11:07 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How can I put you down? You're already in the depths of your own ignorance.

      You have made generalizations about atheists. You've been shown they're inaccurate. You have made statements about religion. You've been challenged to explain them. You can't. You've asked atheists to prove there is no god and then get all bent out of shape when you're informed, as you should know, that one can't prove that something doesn't exist. Furthermore, atheists do not claim that god doesn't exist, they simply see no evidence that indicates there is one.

      Get it?

      No, of course you don't, Nope/Yep/Clown. You're a troll who's just here to get someone to talk to you because in real life, no one wants to do so.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, hippy, he makes a good piñata.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      aww Tom Tom is lonly.

      everything I said atheists have already proven right.

      You get yet another *facepalm*

      July 2, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Are you 12?

      July 2, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Robert Brown

      hippypoet,

      So, should we eat and drink for tomorrow we die?

      July 2, 2012 at 11:14 am |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      Why do you lie?
      How is that logical?

      July 2, 2012 at 11:14 am |
    • Cal

      Mr. Brown, what if anything did you have for breakfast today?

      July 2, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • Huebert

      The only way to beat this clown is to ignore him and wait till he has to go back to school, should be around the end of this month.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'm guessing he'll have to leave for his shift at MickeyD's around 2.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      ooooo!!!!!

      making up more lies!!!

      man atheists cannot stop lying!!

      July 2, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • Huebert

      Good come back.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • hippypoet

      not sure about the whole tomorrow we die thing – but aside from that.....YES...lets eat, drink, make merry, and then make love!

      July 2, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Isn't it? Pretty much one misspelled non-sequitur after another.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      You proved you are a troll Tom Tom

      *facepalm*

      July 2, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      hippy, I liked your response.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Hippy, you haven't a clue to how spiritually dead you are. Without learning, comprehending, and applying Jesus' truth to your life, you are nothing. Just a walking stick ...aka, robot, for your generation.

      --

      Said from a person who is clueless as to the origins of her cut and paste God created from another religion.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD [shall be] as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

      Psalms 37:20

      Amen.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Ah the cut and paste God quotes again. Your foundation is false and borrowed. It simply is a false religion..and that is proven in history.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • Some Stuff

      HeavenSent;

      "But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD [shall be] as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away."

      – Please give us verified evidence that this has EVER happened to ANYONE!

      July 2, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion, Judaism comes from the Scribes and Pharisees who were wolves in sheep's clothing in the synagogues. You've obviously never read about the Kenites, Son's of Cain, seed of satan who wrote that slop that you were conditioned to believe. It was never the spoken words of the Jews that were a tribe of Israel that was never written down. The devil's offsprings wrote that filth, as they twist and contort scriptures of all the false religions they created throughout the world because they are an enemy of God. You prove that you don't know your heritage, and like all bad behaviored children, rebel ... you don't know that you are jumping from the frying pan (satan's lies) into the fire (Jesus truth after He comes back). Enjoy life here on earth ... for, that's all you'll get.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Some Stuff

      HeavenSent;

      "But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD [shall be] as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away."

      – Please give us verified evidence that this has EVER happened to ANYONE!

      -------

      Never will happen. You see HeavenSent cannot think on her own. She can only quote certain parts of the bible. She refuses to see outside the box or see beyond the history of her bible. She lives in this fantasy world due to something traumatic that happened to her. She has a broken mind.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Some Stuff, that is God's promise to His children what will happen to evil ones. They are fat and happy here on earth as they eat, drink, and make merry ... then, like fat on the spits of the lake of fire, poof ...

      July 2, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent, sorry babe, you are incorrect. You need to look at "real" history prior to your bible. And the Devils offspring...seriously. lol There is history prior to your bible and that is a fact. Enjoy your delusion

      July 2, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      "Thinking outside of the box" Some Stuff, you atheists all sound the same as you were conditioned to be enemies of God. Original thinking or simply thinking is not your forte.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Some Stuff

      HeavenSent,

      I'll bet that there is more evidence that Mom's saying, "Keep making that ugly face and it's going to freeze that way" ever happened than there is for your alleged threats and promises from this imaginary god.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion, you wouldn't know true history if it hit you in the face, you are still walking in the desert of delusion.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Some Stuff, you write what your mom told you. LOL.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent, kind of hard to argue with facts isnt it? lol and my case still stands... While you discount thousands and thousands of years the same stories from another religion PRIOR to yours, facts are facts babe.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      And folks here I give you HeavenSent, the one who cannot think outside of her quotes.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from, arguing is correct. That's what you atheists are about. Whining and complaining as you argue. You created the lies, then believe the lies you create ... through history. As far as all the phony religions in the world, it comes from your camp that loves and follow satan ... who is a liar and gets rid of you useful idiots as soon as he reigns for his 15 minutes of fame. All I can tell you is truth ... repent, ask Jesus for forgiveness, then sin no more. Most likely you won't because of being fat and happy in this life, then no eternity for you for being a putz.

      As for being your babe ... you're making me laugh. I'm not one of your conditioned cattle.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Some Stuff

      HeavenSent

      "Some Stuff, you write what your mom told you. LOL."

      – You write what ancient, primitive, superst'itious Middle Eastern Hebrew goat herders told you. LOL

      July 2, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent said, "The devil's offsprings wrote that filth"
      .
      Classic delusional christian response when faced with facts and something contrary....blame it on the Devil. Yes the Devil was thousands and thousands and thousands of years ahead of God and the creation of Man writing "that filth" in anticipation. You know what I smell? I smell denial.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from, arguing is correct. That's what you atheists are about. Whining and complaining as you argue. You created the lies, then believe the lies you create ... through history. As far as all the phony religions in the world, it comes from your camp that loves and follow satan ... who is a liar and gets rid of you useful idiots as soon as he reigns for his 15 minutes of fame. All I can tell you is truth ... repent, ask Jesus for forgiveness, then sin no more. Most likely you won't because of being fat and happy in this life, then no eternity for you for being a putz.

      As for being your babe ... you're making me laugh. I'm not one of your conditioned cattle.

      .
      So that is your response to clearly establish history... hmm well my case still stands...care to address with facts or are we going to continue down the road of denial and delusion of Satan running around with his offspring making a muck of things?

      Come on babe, you got to have something of value to offer regarding this????

      July 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Some Stuff, I keep forgetting, you didn't know how to read back then, you believe your ancestors were swinging from trees, peeling bananas as they threw the baloney around.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from, there is no debating with liars of destruction. Enjoy your camp on earth ...for that's all you get.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Huebert

      @HS

      Earth is all you get as well HeavenSent.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from, there is no debating with liars of destruction. Enjoy your camp on earth ...for that's all you get.

      -
      Any physical evidence, findings, discoveries that clearly establish prior history must be lies. Yes anything outside of your box or comfort zone must be lies and the Devil's work. Your ignorance is what keeps you safe and in your comfort zone babe. Thank you for helping make my point.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Remember folks this is HeavenSent's response to any evidence contrary to her belief system...
      .
      HeavenSent said, "The devil's offsprings wrote that filth"

      July 2, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from ..., it's not my problem you've never read 2 Peter 3 ... while believing your own lies that Christians think this world to be 6,000 years old. When a Christian speaks of 6,000 years means they are speaking of this earth age ... the 2nd one we live in. God destroyed the first earth age, due to sinful behavior of 1/3 of His angels following Lucifer. He's going to rid evil again, when he comes back. I'd say you are in the wrong camp.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      @ HeavenSent

      "The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance."
      Benjamin Franklin

      July 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • Putting your head in the sand dosn' t make the truth disappear

      HeavenSent

      Your fvcking delusional, and should seek help for your psychosis immediately. Its amazing that people who think like you live in modern society.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      You keep going in circles. A religion established thousands and thousands of years established the stories that were copied for your bible. Your bible has no integrity. Do you have anything to offer besides tired old quotes from plagiarism????? The Devil did it doesn't cut it babe.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Sumarian,
      I have read other claims of Judaism being borrowed from other ancient religions. Is yours more than a claim or an opinion?

      July 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Robert Brown

      Sumarian,
      I have read other claims of Judaism being borrowed from other ancient religions. Is yours more than a claim or an opinion?
      .
      Would not a claim also be an opinion? I have no problem if someone disagrees and would love to hear their basis. HeavenSent's response of the Devil wrote it, doesn't quite cut it. I do think there are some serious integrity problems with Judaism considering what was established prior. The evidence presents fabrication.

      July 2, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Putting your head in the sand dosn' t make the truth disappear... are you missing that bar of soap of yours? Your mouth runs over with froth.

      Judaism comes from ... all you atheists believe Christians didn't watch Body Heat ... as Matty lives your lies ... she knows the bottom line ... never gives it up, she just keeps on coming. LOL.

      July 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from ... boo, hoo, the church refused to teach those Christians about the Kenites, yet, they still know about those tares. Boo hoo. What to do ...? Back to the blackboard to spin more lies. LOL.

      July 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • sam

      HeavenSent – don't forget to remind us how carnal we are.

      July 2, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      sam, thanks for admitting what was known by true folks born of Abraham.

      Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

      Hebrews 7:16

      Amen.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Sumarian,
      Sorry about that. I didn’t write the question very well. I was trying to ask what you base the claim on. I have read what I could find and it reads like opinion to me. Do you base your claim on something else?

      July 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Lol and round and round she goes. The Devil doing bad deeds. Anything contrary must be of the Devil and lies. Dance more HeavenSent..you are dancing all around this.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Robert,

      When you get down to it, it is all opinion. The more evidence that is uncovered, the more light is shed on matters. We all have to come to our own conclusions. A person can approach a subject with an unbiased mind or a closed mind. Example, HeavenSent is clearly a closed mind and blaming everything on the Devil. Her intelligence stops at the edge of her ignorance.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from ..., I am very well aware that Lucifer isn't physically walking among us. His spirit is here and he has all you atheists as his minions to do his biddings, while his offsprings the kenites live in this world. While you are keeping it up Matty, know that your slip is showing. LOL.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      I do find how man created religions and the gods and how these religions have changed and influenced others over time facinating. It evolves and some die off and others slowly change form into another to adapt to the times. Most recent we can see how Joseph Smith created Mormonism..... there is no DNA evidence to remotely support his claims....zero evidence of anything...we know he was a con man...in modern day and look how big it has become. I find how weak the minnd of man is quite interesting and sad at the same time.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from ..., I am very well aware that Lucifer isn't physically walking among us. His spirit is here .....
      .
      Interesting, angels have spirits now.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from ..., you wish I was in la-la land. Facts are, you atheists cowards destroyed my career and personal life and I survived your evil coming at me from every angle. Fair fighters, you're not. I experienced first hand what you're all about since you pulled me into your trenches to do battle ... while you cowardly tied my hands behind my back, shackled my feet, gagged me ... and kept throwing punches that never could be resolved because they never happened but ... from the lips of liars. You say it, so it must be true (LOL). You couldn't trash me in your rag newspapers because I never played your game in the first place.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Also HeavenSent, because I believe your god to be a false god does not mean I am Atheist. You sound foolish assuming everybody that does not believe in your Sumerian generated God is an Atheist.

      July 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from ..., you wish I was in la-la land. Facts are, you atheists cowards destroyed my career and personal life and I survived your evil coming at me from every angle. Fair fighters, you're not. I experienced first hand what you're all about since you pulled me into your trenches to do battle ... while you cowardly tied my hands behind my back, shackled my feet, gagged me ... and kept throwing punches that never could be resolved because they never happened but ... from the lips of liars. You say it, so it must be true (LOL). You couldn't trash me in your rag newspapers because I never played your game in the first place.

      ---

      Um yeaaaaaaahhhhhhh, you need to medicate

      July 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Sumarian,
      The first five books of the bible were collated about 500 bc from writings dating to 1000bc. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all claim to worship the God of Abraham. Muslims trace their last and great prophet Muhamed from Abrahams son Ishmael. Christians trace Jesus the son of God from Abrahams son Issac. Christianity began with Jesus about 30ad. Islam began with Muhamed about 600ad. The Mormons got their start with Joseph Smith around 1830. Some say Mormons are another Christian denomination others say they are a cult. Most brands of religion claim they are the only true religion.

      July 2, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judaism comes from ,,, I'm shaking my head as I hold back the words ... back to my original statement over a year ago ... atheists have NO breaks.

      July 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Robert Brown, where are you reading your info on Judaism? From the the atheist sites? LOL.

      July 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Robert Brown, where are you reading your info on Judaism? From the the atheist sites? LOL.

      >
      HeavenSent, and where do you get your information....the OT? lol

      July 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • hippypoet

      oh dear – this had gone way off track.....i love it... :)

      July 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Robert Brown

      Sumarian,
      The first five books of the bible were collated about 500 bc from writings dating to 1000bc. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all claim to worship the God of Abraham. Muslims trace their last and great prophet Muhamed from Abrahams son Ishmael. Christians trace Jesus the son of God from Abrahams son Issac. Christianity began with Jesus about 30ad. Islam began with Muhamed about 600ad. The Mormons got their start with Joseph Smith around 1830. Some say Mormons are another Christian denomination others say they are a cult. Most brands of religion claim they are the only true religion.

      ...

      Christians are a cult to the Jews....from the Catholics...Protestants were created and Christians view Mormonism as a cult. Joe Smith used christianity as a spring board to create his "version". Interesting how tales and fables take shape then reform. What is truly amazing is in this modern day people buy into newly created religions and their tales of magic things and items. Sigh, man is doomed as long as he/she keeps falling into this trap. The answer to or about the gods is not in man.

      July 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Hey Jude, for someone that doesn't read the Mishnah, you and your cronies sure do quote from it and believe every word. You still didn't answer my question about atheists not having breaks as you ensure others are smashed into that concrete wall.

      July 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Hey Jude, for someone that doesn't read the Mishnah, you and your cronies sure do quote from it and believe every word. You still didn't answer my question about atheists not having breaks as you ensure others are smashed into that concrete wall.
      .
      Focus ....... I think you meant "brakes".... lol Also do not be afraid to have a thought of your own.

      So back to the original question.... and your response. You think the Devil had "offspring" that wrote the stories thousands and thousands of years before the creation of your religion. This prior religon talks about a great flood and the creation of man etc. You want to maintain with that response?

      July 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Islam claims to have links to the "abrahamics". In fact, historically it does not. Islam is a moon-god cult. The Kabah was a temple of the moon-god. Ilah, (Allah) was a phase of the moon-god.

      July 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Hey Jude, I'll focus on knowing "snakes have no brakes".

      July 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • sam

      Holy crap, which one of you caused HS to start talking about her bondage fantasies?? Go stand in the corner right now.

      July 2, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent never wishes to "engage" in the conversation. She is on this board working and fighting her internal demons and issues. She loses her grip and starts to ramble off...like we have seen in this thread. Its all about her getting the convo back to chance to ramble off about Atheist running people into walls, newspapers smeairng her name and the Atheist Agenda and CNN shutting her down. Skitzo perhaps. She isnt even a real Christian living in reality. lol

      July 2, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      But, in the meantime, while we are re-educating youth in new traditional religions and afterwards in ours, we shall not overtly lay a finger on existing churches, but we shall fight against them by criticism calculated to produce schism . . .  (Emphasis added)

      ―  Protocol #17 ; Protocols of The Learned Elders of Oz (cough) ... don't look at that man behind the curtain.

      Blah, blah, as they deny, deny, deny.

      July 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Hey Jude, (cough) Tommie Tom. I never said you got to trash me in the rag newspapers. You always tip your hand ... as you twist and contort truth. P.S. you blew your cover when you critique "breaks" vs "brakes".

      SMILE ... Night night.

      July 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      HeavenSent

      Hey Jude, (cough) Tommie Tom. I never said you got to trash me in the rag newspapers. You always tip your hand ... as you twist and contort truth. P.S. you blew your cover when you critique "breaks" vs "brakes".

      SMILE ... Night night.

      --
      I guess Tom is the only one who knows how to use the word "brake" vs break. lol ps I am Justsayin....notice how I break up with ----– or ....... or >>>>>>...little clue babe.

      July 3, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      I thought I was kind of obvious with

      -----
      ................
      >>>>>>>
      //////////////

      lol

      justsayin

      July 3, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hilarious. I just saw your post, Jude, and read HS's little diatribe.

      The critter is crazy. It thinks every post is mine.

      July 3, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hilarious. I just saw your post, Jude, and read HS's little diatribe.

      The critter is crazy. It thinks every post is mine.

      ----

      I am guessing as we near the full moon each month she gets more loopy lol

      July 3, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      It's as good a guess as any.

      July 3, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Jesus gave me a pearl necklace

      Yo Heavensent do you up your meds on full moons?

      July 3, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Owl

      HeavenSent is the Anti-Winnie - "a bear of very little brain", but mean and dour.

      July 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Jesus gave me a pearl necklace

      she defines warmth and love of Christ

      July 3, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    July 2, 2012 at 6:57 am |
    • stupid people are lead into battle first

      knowledge changes things.

      July 2, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • stupid followed to its logical conclusion

      ends at atheism

      July 2, 2012 at 9:15 am |
    • just sayin

      Another day of people claiming to be Christian slinging insults. :::sigh:::

      July 2, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • just sayin

      You must be born again. God bless

      July 2, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      July 2, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      "Jesus" you are atheism is not heathly...you post at the same time this poster does

      You can't fool us.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Jesus

      "Jesus" you are atheism is not heathly...you post at the same time this poster does

      You can't fool us."

      Nope you're the liar.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • Making up lies to "prove" you are right is not logical

      Lol sad attempt to troll..

      July 2, 2012 at 11:17 am |
  18. Zombie Squirrels Shall Feast Upon Your Nuts!

    Well, since the daily recycle is its usual warmed-over bore of leftovers (Laura Koran has the easiest job at CNN. She must be someone's niece or mistress or something), let's go for totally unrelated question.

    If you could create a new third party, what would it be? What new direction does America need to take? General trend and specific stance on issues. Feel free to throw in a snappy name, like the Bourgeouis Leninists For Jesus.

    If you are happy with one of the parties that presently exist, you can be a bore and say why – though I would hope people could be a bit more imaginative, because let's face it, the Democrats are a 1930s paradigm that fits in about as well as a zoot suit, and the Republicans are so splintered they seem to be an illusion of a viewpoint rather than the reality of it. Both seem better at criticizing the other than having ideas themselves.

    So give us a new direction.

    July 2, 2012 at 5:15 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      I like the Libertarians.

      July 2, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • Robert Brown

      Yeah, I like the libertarian platform better than the two major ones also. The government is too big, inefficient, and intrusive and needs to be reigned in.

      July 2, 2012 at 11:10 am |
    • Zombie Squirrels Shall Feat Upon Your Nuts!

      Wow! Absolutely no one here has ever thought about possibilities and alternatives? All of you are locked into existing parties?

      WOW! I have a hard time believing that Americans are that incredibly narrow politically! I figured some of you would have new directions.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      I would like to see us get rid of the presidency and replace it with something similar to the supreme court. I don't like one person having that much power, mostly because then the pres is an easy scapegoat to blame.

      July 2, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I would enjoy seeing a party where common sense is emphasized. And personal accountability, while we're at it. What I'd really like is a law that forces our politicians to wear the logos of their major supporters on jumpsuits - sort of like NASCAR drivers, so that when they vote on bills and budgets, you know exactly who is paying for whom.

      July 3, 2012 at 2:47 am |

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