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My Take: CNN readers' 7 answers to 'Where was God in Aurora?'
A man pauses at a memorial of crosses near the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, the scene of last week's mass shooting.
July 26th, 2012
02:49 PM ET

My Take: CNN readers' 7 answers to 'Where was God in Aurora?'

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "The American Bible: How Our Words Unite, Divide, and Define a Nation," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

Over the last few days, CNN’s Belief Blog has received more than 10,000 responses to its question, “Where was God in Aurora?”

The underlying concern here has vexed theologians for centuries: How can evil happen in a world that is lorded over by a good and all-powerful God? As CNN's readers struggled to make sense of God's presence (or absence) in the Aurora, Colorado, massacre, I counted seven different answers to this question:

1. There is no God.

Self-professed atheists may make up only 2% of the U.S. population, but they are extraordinarily active online, and on CNN's Belief Blog. A commenter who identified as Jason spoke for them when he wrote, “Where was God? He was where he has always been. Nowhere because God does not exist.” Bob Dobbs agreed: “God is imaginary. The question is moot.”

Many in this camp also quoted the ancient Greek philosopher (and skeptic) Epicurus:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

2. Don’t blame God, blame Satan.

Many theists on the site described the world as a battleground between God, who is working for good, and Satan, who is working for evil. “As long as Satan is loose to promote evil, bad things will happen to good people,” wrote kat.

3. Don’t blame God, blame us.

Probably the most common response from Christian commenters was that evil is a result of free will. Do we really want to be “puppets” or “robots"? Of course not. So God has given us the will to choose either evil or good.

Watch: Survivor of massacre says he forgives gunman

Believer summed up this position well:

"It's been said that the only thing we can truly give God is our will because its the only thing we possess that is uniquely ours. Everything else was given to us by him, and is, in effect, not ours to give in the first place. As such, and despite his omnipotence, he cannot intervene. . . .  He only possesses power where power can be possessed - and controlling our actions is not within that realm."

Here Deborah also chimed in: “This act of violence was not God's will. I get so tried of people blaming God for evil acts. Humans of their own free will do evil things.”

4. God was behind the massacre, and it was just.

Some believers saw God’s righteous hand in the Aurora massacre, inflicting a just punishment on a wayward nation now run by secular liberals rather than conservative Christians.

Lenny wrote:

"We as a country have been telling God to go away. We told him to get off our currency, get out of our schools, get out of our Pledge of Allegiance, take your Ten Commandments out of our courthouses, get those Bibles out of hotels and no graduation ceremonies in our churches. How can we expect God to give us his blessing and his protection if we demand that he leave us alone?"

Read: The man who made Aurora’s iconic crosses

Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, took a similar tack in an appearance on the Heritage Foundation's "Istook Live" radio show, laying the blame at the feet of a nation that has turned away from its God:

"You know, when people say, where was God in all of this? Well, you know, . . . we’ve threatened high school graduation participants that if they use God’s name that they’re going to be jailed, we had a principal of a school, and a superintendent or a coach down in Florida that were threatened with jail because they said the blessing at a voluntary off campus dinner. I mean, that kind of stuff… where is God? Where, where? What have we done with God? We told him that we don’t want him around. I kind of like his protective hand being present."

5. God was present at the massacre but with the victims, not the perpetrator

One classic claim in the Abrahamic tradition of Jews, Christians and Muslims is that God is with those who suffer - the poor and the oppressed. Some commenters saw God’s miraculous hand in the midst of this suffering, not causing it to happen but bringing it to an end.  “This may sound crazy,” wrote Diana, “but I believe God had a hand in that the gun jammed so that more people weren’t killed.”

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The most common claim in this category came from peacemaker, who wrote, “God is and was with the victims and s/he is weeping.” In a more explicitly Christian vein, Lauren wrote: “He was there in the theater, pierced by bullets with the victims. He was scarred by the shrapnel. His eyes were scorched with gas and then burned with tears as He mourned alongside the broken.”

6. Which God?

Some commenters interrogated the question itself, arguing that the knots it twists us into are rooted in what commenter Ego_Death called “a false idea of what God is.” After all, the problem of evil in a world ruled by a sovereign and good God only presents itself if you posit one personal God who is both good and all-powerful.

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Referring to "our idea of a human-like personal God" as "an ancient myth," Northstar56 wrote:

"But just because this kind of God does not appear to exist, does not mean that God, in fact, does not exist. I think many have developed a more mature and realistic perspective . . . in which God exists as a pure fundamental consciousness or state from which all of existence arises. This God does not control anything, but rather continues to perpetually emanate as reality . . . God was present in all of the victims, and everyone else. God was present in the killer as well. The tragedy is that the killer's awareness was so distorted and twisted that he could not see or be aware of the intrinsic priceless value of every person he gunned down."

Evoking something more akin to the “watchmaker” God of the deists, who makes the world and its laws and then refuses to intervene in its operation, Norm wrote: “God is not involved in our everyday mundane activities. How arrogant of man to think he’s the center of the universe and has God’s constant attention and every action is ‘God’s will.’”

Taking a different tack, "varun" invoked the teachings of the beloved Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita:

"Only the followers of Semitic religions have problem with understanding this - because they do not believe in rebirth and karma. As soon as you introduce these two concepts into (the) picture along with the eternal indestructible soul (something Semitic religions do believe in), everything makes sense. Read Bhagavad-Gita and everything would be as clear as daylight."

7. Who knows? It’s a mystery

Agnosticism is a rare virtue in the United States nowadays, but there were a few commenters who admitted to something less than the absolute certainty exhibited by atheists and evangelicals alike. "The answer," wrote Terry, "is we don't know where he was." Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom saw this "God works in mysterious ways" move as “ultimate cop-out/rationalization,” but I am not so sure.

In September 1862, in the midst of a much greater American tragedy, Abraham Lincoln wrote a private “Meditation on the Divine Will” in which he struggled to make sense of what God was doing in the Civil War. He later reworked those reflections into his second inaugural address, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

Surveying the corpse-ridden landscape of North and South, Lincoln observed, “Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other.” Clearly there was little good in slavery, he reasoned, yet equally clearly God was not giving a swift and sure victory to the Union. So what was God up to? In the end, Lincoln had to admit he did not know. Or, as he put it, “The Almighty has His own purposes.”

I suppose this is in a sense a “cop-out,” but it is a humble one, uninfected by the absolute certainties (either pro- or anti-God) that have shed more blood on earth than agnosticism ever will. It is also a classic example of answering a question with a question: What is God doing with this war? Who knows?

“Josephpusateri” also answered our question with a question. His comment was in my view the best of the hundreds I read, so I will end with it here:

"Oh, the blindness of such a question... as if only theodicy was a relevant question in white, American suburbs. Where is God in Afghanistan? Where is God in Gaza? Where is God in Syria? . . . Where is God, indeed."

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Christianity • Culture wars • Devil • Ethics • God • Violence

soundoff (4,074 Responses)
  1. Just call me Lucifer

    HighPlainsParson is in full submission. Just the way I like it.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:55 am |
  2. SidewaysEight

    How is it not obvious that all god's were invented by men to explain the unknown and attempt to set local moral standards. That statistic of only 2% of America being atheist, from what I've seen and heard is drastically outdated. If that many Americans consider themselves religious, then it just goes to show how big of a joke religion can be, given how blatantly hedonistic most Americans are. If one can learn of the plethora of religions that have ever existed, and if one could learn about the geological age of this planet and how all of biology and chemistry is affected by it, how could this person take any religion seriously? How could they look at a god like the Christian god and not see a murderous and sadistic creator, who purposefully damned his entire creation from the start by allowing his arch nemesis to exist on the very same planet that he would create his most cherished creation? It is beyond all logic and reason how any religion can stifle and reprimand the one fundamental difference between humans and all other life forms on this planet, which is to ask the question, "why?".

    July 27, 2012 at 1:53 am |
  3. Brian

    Bertrand Russel said that if there is a God he (or she) would have to be a fiend or a pervert. This does provide employment for theologians to justify their "jobs." Maybe they should get back to debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The archbishop of Armagh calculated that 325 angels can dance on the head of a pin.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:49 am |
  4. Sam

    Life is simple, birth, grow, die, live.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:49 am |
  5. barbarianofgor

    Again;

    "I call all the heavens to bear witness against you that I have set before thee the Gates of Life and of Death. The Blessing and the Curse. Therefore; Choose Life, that thou may live, thou and thy seed."

    The consequence of "Free Will" is that man can choose, including the choice of evil. This means that yes, people will choose to do evil things including to good, innocent people. That is the consequence of "Free Will".

    And, YES the Devil does try to influence others to often hurt themselves or others. God prevents him from directly doing damage, for he took the keys to H- and Death away from him. But people can still listen to him.

    And let's not blame the Devil exclusively. He fell in part because God would not destroy mankind, and this was after the flood when the world after quickly became just as wicked as the one before it. But God did not lose his faith in mankind. The Devil fell and completely ruled the world till God came as JC and then redeemed it, forgiving all mankind.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:47 am |
    • tallulah13

      Again: There is not s single shred of evidence to support the existence of any god or any devil. There is not a single shred of evidence to support the existence of any sort of life after death. Why are you so intimidated by the thought of your own mortality?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:50 am |
    • Atty

      If there is a all knowing god then we cant have free will. God knows what i did before it is done. I am powerless to act only as god knew I would. Otherwise god is not all knowing or not all powerful so not a god.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:54 am |
    • MOCaseA

      So God destroyed the world for it's evil and sinful ways BEFORE he banished Lucifer from heaven? What about the primary sin? The serpent (Lucifer) convinced Eve to eat of the Tree of Knowledge. But wait, he didn't banish Lucifer till after the Flood? I'm confused. Which was it? Lucifer was banished first, or the Flood came first?

      Or maybe you need to stop commenting with obvious absurdities and reread that which you think you know.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:09 am |
    • Elizabeth

      BRAVO !! WELL SAID!!!

      July 27, 2012 at 2:10 am |
  6. Sam

    The body will die, but the soul will live forever. Where? That is up to you.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:44 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      Actually, there is no soul. When you die you are as self-aware as you were before birth, which is to say not at all. Trust me... I'm the devil.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:47 am |
    • tallulah13

      There is no proof that there is ANYTHING beyond death. Why is that such a horrible thing?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:48 am |
    • Sam

      I never mentioned anything about horrible?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:56 am |
    • Good News Volunteer

      Lucifer knows what the bible teaches...the dead are conscious of nothing. Tallulah...really? How could we make comments and interact with our fellow humans if we are dead....

      July 27, 2012 at 1:59 am |
    • tallulah13

      Vol? Really? Are you dead now? Are you communicating from the afterlife? We live, we die. There is no honest reason to believe that there is anything more. Why isn't this one life enough for you? Why do you think that you are so special that you must live forever?

      July 27, 2012 at 2:13 am |
    • tallulah13

      Sam, the very fact that you think that your "soul" lives forever, despite all the evidence to the contrary, indicates that death is so repugnant to you that you would rather believe a tall tale about eternal life than accept your mortality.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:15 am |
  7. God

    Because the people died were sinners

    July 27, 2012 at 1:43 am |
    • doug

      and so was your mother for giving birth to someone like you

      July 27, 2012 at 1:50 am |
  8. brannon

    Where was God in Aurora? He was in the same place as when His Son was nailed to the cross. It's sad we question God.. Job learned the hard way.. Job 38:1-42:6

    July 27, 2012 at 1:42 am |
    • MOCaseA

      That's funny because the last time I read my Bible (Which is admittedly a while ago) JOB was a figurehead of belief in God and His will. He never questioned or renounced God, even when everything was taken from him. He sat in ashed and proclaimed that God had a plan and the His will, in the end, would be done. I never once remember reading about him "questioning God."

      July 27, 2012 at 1:56 am |
  9. Terry Brookman

    It's called karma and like it or not you get what you deserve, justice is not in the mind of man.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:40 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      Bow down before the one you serve... you're going to get what you deserve.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:48 am |
  10. StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

    From what I know and understand God is good so He could not have allowed this to happen as some sort of punishment. I think mankind has the unique power of free will which can lead to things like landing on the moon and massacres like this. God only wants love, peace, and good but some people can't find that in this world and sometimes cause more pain because of it. I feel sorry for all the people who lost someone, may God comfort you and I feel sorry for the young man who could have been something great but choose the path of death.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:40 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Explain why God allows little children to die of cancer.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:42 am |
    • God

      I sent them to a special place.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:45 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      Death is unnatural. God did not create death. He created Life Eternal which He freely gives to all. It's sad that a child dies of cancer. When I hear of things like that it really makes me sad but death is part of the world we live in. We all face it and it's sad no matter when or how it happens. God offers Eternal Life.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:47 am |
    • tallulah13

      Death is the only natural conclusion to life. Why do you dread your own mortality?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:51 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      Because we now that our mortality is inherently unnatural. If death was supposed to be the finality of life than why be sad or grieve? Why care for others? Even when I hear about people dying whom I didn't know it makes me sad. Death is the enemy, not life.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:56 am |
    • tallulah13

      Why, Steven? I don't understand why you feel that you are more important than nature. Why isn't this life enough for you?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:58 am |
    • Heather

      I have a 2-year-old nephew that just died of cancer. Maybe his spirit was too pure to endure this earth life and God took him home so he wouldn't have to endure the hate and evil here. Maybe he had greater good to do in heaven. Whatever the reason, this earth life is short, this is not the end, and we will be reunited with him again. He is safe and happy and free from pain now. In the meantime we do what we chose to come here for: we got a physical body that will be resurrected in perfect form, we are gaining experience and learning faith, and we are proving to our Father in Heaven that we will choose good and follow the Savior. God will not always take our trials from us, but he will always help us through if we ask Him. It is through our trials that we gain experience and become who He wants us to be. And the Savior suffered all our pain so He would know how to help us. Just trust Him.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:03 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      tallulah13 I am no more important than you or anyone else. I just know that there is more than this life, it's something I truly and deeply believe. I am sorry if that is not the answer you seek. 😦

      July 27, 2012 at 2:03 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      Heather I am sorry to hear about that. I believe like you that he is in a better place with no pain, no suffering, no sadness, only peace, love, and joy. I want everyone to have that.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:05 am |
    • tallulah13

      Steven, you don't "know". You "believe". Knowledge implies proof, and there is not a single shred of evidence to support the existence of any god, any devil, any heaven or any hell.

      Perhaps there is an afterlife, despite the lack of any honest reason to believe. I'm still not interested. This life has been full of good times, difficult times and amazing things and people. This life is/was wonderful, and I am not selfish. This life is enough.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:09 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      tallulah13 I appreciate your honesty and if you've lived a good life than I am happy for you as well. As for proof, I can only tell you what I believe based on my experiences and my own searching for meaning. Proof is not always the answer to the question. Many people witnessed the miracles of Jesus firsthand and still didn't believe Him to be God. If you witnessed a person being healed right before your eyes how could you explain it other than to attribute it to an understanding or a power greater than ourselves. Again you could call it a random occurrence or luck or a statistical anomaly, but that would mean the same thing, you couldn't know what happened, so it does come down to faith, even if matters where there is proof of something.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:20 am |
    • tallulah13

      Steven, personal anecdotes are not proof. I have no problem with people declaring what they believe. When they claim their beliefs that fact, then I have problems. I can only believe in what is tangible, verifiable, or at least indicated by evidence. God is none of those things.

      And yes, my life has been good. It's not been easy; in fact some times it's incredibly difficult and heartbreaking, but I have had good friends and family, I have seen amazing things, and I have laughed quite a bit. I can't imagine needing anything more than that.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:28 am |
  11. doesn't_matter

    In Defense of God:

    Most people here seem to be desperately trying to reassure themselves, by convincing others, that they are okay. There is a prevailing sense of "I'm okay – Your an Idiot" about nearly all these comments and replies.

    It is fairly interesting that such a high percentage of the comments and replies here are from Atheists. Why are so many people who believe there is no God, so actively reading and arguing about what people think about God? Any sort of logical response would be to just move on – why on earth would you even read this?

    Oh, that's right, because you need to reassure yourself that you are okay – and those crazy God people are all nutty.

    And believe me – there is plenty of nutty here to take swings at – so it must really feel good.

    I guess I'm no different – why do I feel the need to get my $.02 in? Not sure really – except for that I feel like no one is here is talking about MY God – so wanted to tell you about why I choose to believe.

    Lets move past all the silly stuff – I'm not afraid to die – I wasn't brainwashed – I'm not talking about Religion. I don't know what's going to happen when I do die. I don't know if or which Religion is "right".

    I choose to believe in something bigger than myself. I choose to believe in a higher power. I choose to move past the fact that it is illogical and that God doesn't make sense – it required a bit of courage and humility to embrace the idea that God might be bigger than I can understand. I choose ti take that risk.

    I chose to take that risk because I was tired of trying to figure it out on my own. I was tired of looking for answers in logic and reason – logic and reason lead only to the empty reality that we should do what feels good now – we should pursue what makes us the most comfortable – we should always look out for our best interests. Logic and reason left me very empty.

    When I chose to believe and to attempt to submit to the will of a higher power – through prayer and study and community with others – my life became about something more important than what was best for me. My relationships became richer, my ability to love and accept others became deeper, my ability to make other peoples lives better became possible. I am not empty any more – my life is filled with God.

    Am I delusional to believe? Maybe. But I choose to be so and believe that the world would be better if more people chose the same.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:35 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      A big cause for atheism is the way people who call themselves Christians act and speak (myself included very much in this). We will be judged much more harshly than those who never believed in God. In the end we need to love one another as Jesus loves us.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:42 am |
    • Paradox

      "I chose to take that risk because I was tired of trying to figure it out on my own. I was tired of looking for answers in logic and reason – logic and reason lead only to the empty reality that we should do what feels good now – we should pursue what makes us the most comfortable – we should always look out for our best interests. Logic and reason left me very empty."

      So because you cant simply wrap your head around modern scientific fact and hyposthesis you :just gave up" and Sacrifice your life to a primitive belief? No thanks.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:43 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Didn'tSplatter, we atheists need to keep an eye on you.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:46 am |
    • doesn't_matter

      "because you cant simply wrap your head around modern scientific fact and hyposthesis you :just gave up" – No idea what this means. Modern scientific fact and hypothesis no more disprove that God exists than proves it.

      "Sacrifice your life to a primitive belief?" – Yes, exactly.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:48 am |
    • Paradox

      "Sacrifice your life to a primitive belief?" – Yes, exactly.

      Well if your completely disregarding logic id expect no less of an answer. Sorry man i can only pity....

      July 27, 2012 at 1:50 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      You choose to believe in something bigger than yourself. I got your belief right here pal.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:51 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      Everyone has a right to their opinion. But I ask my atheist friends if God is giving you a way to be free from this temporal life why turn it down?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:52 am |
    • tallulah13

      Steven, I am not afraid of death. The concept of eternal life holds no appeal for me whatsoever. I love this life, but I feel no need to continue on after it's natural conclusion. What I don't understand is why ANYONE should live forever. Isn't this life enough?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:56 am |
    • doesn't_matter

      "Sorry man i can only pity...." – I know, its really sad. 😦

      Do you feel better now because you are so logical and I'm so pitiful?

      July 27, 2012 at 1:57 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      tallulah13, I understand where you are coming from but I never have thought that this was it, this life was all there was. If that were the case it would be a sad a cruel joke for a vast majority of the world's population. Hope in something better, something more is why people believe. It's not that they hate this life or are just weak minded but that they've come to the point to accept that everything is passing away, and we have a chance to live the best of what this life has to offer forever. What is wrong with wanting that for you, me, for everyone ever born? That's my hope for each and every person, that they taste that paradise and live in it forever.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:00 am |
    • tallulah13

      doesn't_matter:

      What you are saying is that you are intellectually lazy and would rather have easy answers than the truth. Then you try to elevate your rather pathetic choice by saying that you think the world would be a better place if more people were as lazy as you.

      Personally, I'm grateful that there are people willing to take on the difficult questions, people that aren't afraid of the work and time involved in learning the facts. I believe that the world would be a better place if more people were interested in the truth, rather than settling for the first answer that appeals to them.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:03 am |
    • Brian

      doesn't-matter, Your many uses of the word "I" and other first person pronouns just demonstrates that religious faith is a form of narcissism.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:09 am |
    • doesn't_matter

      "What you are saying is that you are intellectually lazy and would rather have easy answers than the truth. Then you try to elevate your rather pathetic choice by saying that you think the world would be a better place if more people were as lazy as you." – No, I don't think I am.

      "Personally, I'm grateful that there are people willing to take on the difficult questions, people that aren't afraid of the work and time involved in learning the facts. I believe that the world would be a better place if more people were interested in the truth, rather than settling for the first answer that appeals to them." – I couldn't agree more.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:15 am |
  12. eville11

    Where was God? – ultimate cop out; I don't know, but I just paid the babysitter.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:35 am |
  13. virginia

    "Oh, the blindness of such a question... as if only theodicy was a relevant question in white, American suburbs. Where is God in Afghanistan? Where is God in Gaza? Where is God in Syria? . . . Where is God, indeed."

    the answer is always the same sin separates the sinner from the presence of God and his protection...God is in the heart of menkind in all corners of the world but most choose to be blind to his presence due to fear=sin that brings shame to the heart...and the darkness of violance to the confused...a struggle between right and wrong is part of existance...til that day of the coming of the lord, this is said in the day of the lord, amen.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:33 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! Just as there are unicorns and leprechauns, not to mention the Tooth Fairy, Jesus, the Easter Bunny, God, and Tinker Bell.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:38 am |
    • MOCaseA

      So basically what you are saying is that all those people were denied the "protection of God" because they were sinners and were ignoring the presence of God? Wow, next time I'm at a stoning I'll hand you the first stone.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:00 am |
    • StevenQ4837Dt447829uI&2#&?y

      Virgina, everyone is subject to the same laws of nature, everything is passing away, no one is exempt from that. The person who chooses to believe in God, in Life Eternal is hoping that this short and brief time is not it all. What's wrong with hoping for that, for you, for me, for everyone? If that insults you I am sorry but I do not think God wants anything but the best for all of His creation.

      July 27, 2012 at 2:08 am |
  14. respect

    spirituality is important...but religions must be removed. we must pray and meditate 4 hours daily...if you hate your enemies you are dangerous too

    July 27, 2012 at 1:31 am |
    • Peace2All

      @respect

      Several studies 'do' support the practice of 'meditation' as healthy for mind/body.

      Prayer... well, it depends on what your definition of prayer is exactly.

      Peace...

      July 27, 2012 at 1:36 am |
  15. Bob Stevenson

    God actually had gone to get some M&M's. Although Allah and Shiva were in the back row making out.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:31 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      Those two are known to be frisky.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:35 am |
  16. Observer

    Sam,

    I think we're onto something here. If Christians want their children to be guaranteed admission to Heaven, all they need to do it to support abortion. Why force the poor kids to put up with the trials, tribulations and temptations of life on earth when they can go "to a far better place"?.

    By the way, the Bible NEVER mentions abortion. It does, however, offer more to support abortion than to oppose it.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:30 am |
    • Vik

      Please provide some Biblical proof for"supporting abortions".

      July 27, 2012 at 1:34 am |
    • Observer

      Vik,

      Punishments: injure a PERSON: “an eye for an eye”

      Cause a miscarriage by fighting: pay a FINE to the husband [Ex. 21:22-25]

      July 27, 2012 at 1:41 am |
    • Sam

      You have a cold heart. You know it. Do not be proud of it.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:46 am |
    • Observer

      Sam,

      I have a cold heart? It was the Bible that said killing a fetus is only worthy of a fine paid to the HUSBAND.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:49 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      Biblical truth is an oxymoronmoron.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:53 am |
  17. Good News Volunteer

    Simply put 1 John 5:19 speaks of the devil as the 'ruler of the world' and Ephesians 2:2 backs up that thought citing him as the "ruler of the authority of the air" which points to the thought that he has a strong influence over people who are unaware of his tactics. He is in borrowed time so to speak and this is evident from the increase of evil acts we see today. God is not a myth and will act against him soon with power and justice. The natural world around us proves God is real and his Word proves even further that it will not be long before justice is served for the victims of Aurora and the world over. Stop being ignorant and listen!

    July 27, 2012 at 1:23 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Good News Volunteer

      You Said: " Ephesians 2:2 backs up that thought citing him as the "ruler of the authority of the air "

      So... now the Devil is the head of the FAA ?

      Peace...

      July 27, 2012 at 1:32 am |
    • Peteyroo

      Utter nonsense! There is no devil/satan just as there is no God.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:34 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      I so totally RULE!

      July 27, 2012 at 1:36 am |
    • Good News Volunteer

      The FAA is part of the world. But the "air" stands for a force that is subtle and effects all humankind. It's no fairy tale. I'm no fanatic. I simply care for my fellow humans and encourage them to learn the facts...

      July 27, 2012 at 1:50 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Good News Volunteer

      You Said: " It's no fairy tale."

      You seem *certain*... Curious how you can be *certain* ? ... Please provide proof that doesn't include just more biblical quotes.

      You Said: " I simply care for my fellow humans"

      We share that in common.

      You Said: " (I) encourage them to learn the *facts*..."

      Which *facts* exactly ? Please see my request in the first response to your "It's no fairy tale."

      Thanks for chatting.

      Peace...

      July 27, 2012 at 2:00 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ GNV .. you said "The natural world around us proves God is real.." The natural world is the reason "gods" were invented in the first place. Man did not know how things worked, so, looking for any answer, decided that since they didn't create lightning or volcanic eruptions, someONE must have. As man grew, we learned how a lot of natural things do work, and there was NEVER any deity causing them. The tragedy in Aurora was not the fault of any "god" or "devil", it was one man who planned, in advance, to do this. Your "god" had ample time to stop this plan, and yet it was still carried out. In the words of The Hulk from the Avengers movie .. "Puny god".

      July 27, 2012 at 2:00 am |
  18. Seyedibar

    Where was Batman in Aurora?? Where was Paul Bunyon?? Surely there was some fictional character that could have prevented the tragedy.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:21 am |
  19. tony

    @Highplainsparson clearly is God. He knows all the answers and apparently never wrong. The bible's god is subservient to him and can't get a word in edgeways.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:20 am |
    • highplainsparson

      On the contrary, sir. I am in full submission to His revealed will. And if I am not, and it is made clear to me, I will gladly change my mind.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:21 am |
    • tony

      You are in full submission to some very silly words in the bible. You should have more respect for your own ability to sense fraud. Even the 10 commandments shout a clue to the non-existence of gods.

      July 27, 2012 at 1:27 am |
  20. acasilaco

    "4. God was behind the massacre, and it was just. Some believers saw God’s righteous hand in the Aurora massacre, inflicting a just punishment on a wayward nation now run by secular liberals rather than conservative Christians."

    Neither of the quotes in this section support this. I don't doubt that some commenters did say that the killings were inflicted by God, but that is not what the two individuals said in the quotes you supplied.

    July 27, 2012 at 1:18 am |
    • Peace2All

      @acasilaco

      That may be so. However, I've seen tremendous amounts of posters over the last 3-4 years, who emphatically state and are quick to jump on 'any' 'tragedy' *means* God is punishing us for our wicked ways, etc...

      I don't know where you stand on this issue, but for a lot of us it is pure unverified crazy speculation, that by inference will cause people that are the target of the tragedies to be labeled with, it's their fault.

      Example: Gays are wicked... God sends a shooter into ki-ll people in Aurora, CO., sends a hurricane to wipe out a city etc...

      Regards,

      Peace...

      July 27, 2012 at 1:28 am |
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