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My Take: CNN readers' 7 answers to 'Where was God in Aurora?'
A man pauses at a memorial of crosses near the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, the scene of last week's mass shooting.
July 26th, 2012
02:49 PM ET

My Take: CNN readers' 7 answers to 'Where was God in Aurora?'

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "The American Bible: How Our Words Unite, Divide, and Define a Nation," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

Over the last few days, CNN’s Belief Blog has received more than 10,000 responses to its question, “Where was God in Aurora?”

The underlying concern here has vexed theologians for centuries: How can evil happen in a world that is lorded over by a good and all-powerful God? As CNN's readers struggled to make sense of God's presence (or absence) in the Aurora, Colorado, massacre, I counted seven different answers to this question:

1. There is no God.

Self-professed atheists may make up only 2% of the U.S. population, but they are extraordinarily active online, and on CNN's Belief Blog. A commenter who identified as Jason spoke for them when he wrote, “Where was God? He was where he has always been. Nowhere because God does not exist.” Bob Dobbs agreed: “God is imaginary. The question is moot.”

Many in this camp also quoted the ancient Greek philosopher (and skeptic) Epicurus:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

2. Don’t blame God, blame Satan.

Many theists on the site described the world as a battleground between God, who is working for good, and Satan, who is working for evil. “As long as Satan is loose to promote evil, bad things will happen to good people,” wrote kat.

3. Don’t blame God, blame us.

Probably the most common response from Christian commenters was that evil is a result of free will. Do we really want to be “puppets” or “robots"? Of course not. So God has given us the will to choose either evil or good.

Watch: Survivor of massacre says he forgives gunman

Believer summed up this position well:

"It's been said that the only thing we can truly give God is our will because its the only thing we possess that is uniquely ours. Everything else was given to us by him, and is, in effect, not ours to give in the first place. As such, and despite his omnipotence, he cannot intervene. . . .  He only possesses power where power can be possessed - and controlling our actions is not within that realm."

Here Deborah also chimed in: “This act of violence was not God's will. I get so tried of people blaming God for evil acts. Humans of their own free will do evil things.”

4. God was behind the massacre, and it was just.

Some believers saw God’s righteous hand in the Aurora massacre, inflicting a just punishment on a wayward nation now run by secular liberals rather than conservative Christians.

Lenny wrote:

"We as a country have been telling God to go away. We told him to get off our currency, get out of our schools, get out of our Pledge of Allegiance, take your Ten Commandments out of our courthouses, get those Bibles out of hotels and no graduation ceremonies in our churches. How can we expect God to give us his blessing and his protection if we demand that he leave us alone?"

Read: The man who made Aurora’s iconic crosses

Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, took a similar tack in an appearance on the Heritage Foundation's "Istook Live" radio show, laying the blame at the feet of a nation that has turned away from its God:

"You know, when people say, where was God in all of this? Well, you know, . . . we’ve threatened high school graduation participants that if they use God’s name that they’re going to be jailed, we had a principal of a school, and a superintendent or a coach down in Florida that were threatened with jail because they said the blessing at a voluntary off campus dinner. I mean, that kind of stuff… where is God? Where, where? What have we done with God? We told him that we don’t want him around. I kind of like his protective hand being present."

5. God was present at the massacre but with the victims, not the perpetrator

One classic claim in the Abrahamic tradition of Jews, Christians and Muslims is that God is with those who suffer - the poor and the oppressed. Some commenters saw God’s miraculous hand in the midst of this suffering, not causing it to happen but bringing it to an end.  “This may sound crazy,” wrote Diana, “but I believe God had a hand in that the gun jammed so that more people weren’t killed.”

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The most common claim in this category came from peacemaker, who wrote, “God is and was with the victims and s/he is weeping.” In a more explicitly Christian vein, Lauren wrote: “He was there in the theater, pierced by bullets with the victims. He was scarred by the shrapnel. His eyes were scorched with gas and then burned with tears as He mourned alongside the broken.”

6. Which God?

Some commenters interrogated the question itself, arguing that the knots it twists us into are rooted in what commenter Ego_Death called “a false idea of what God is.” After all, the problem of evil in a world ruled by a sovereign and good God only presents itself if you posit one personal God who is both good and all-powerful.

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Referring to "our idea of a human-like personal God" as "an ancient myth," Northstar56 wrote:

"But just because this kind of God does not appear to exist, does not mean that God, in fact, does not exist. I think many have developed a more mature and realistic perspective . . . in which God exists as a pure fundamental consciousness or state from which all of existence arises. This God does not control anything, but rather continues to perpetually emanate as reality . . . God was present in all of the victims, and everyone else. God was present in the killer as well. The tragedy is that the killer's awareness was so distorted and twisted that he could not see or be aware of the intrinsic priceless value of every person he gunned down."

Evoking something more akin to the “watchmaker” God of the deists, who makes the world and its laws and then refuses to intervene in its operation, Norm wrote: “God is not involved in our everyday mundane activities. How arrogant of man to think he’s the center of the universe and has God’s constant attention and every action is ‘God’s will.’”

Taking a different tack, "varun" invoked the teachings of the beloved Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita:

"Only the followers of Semitic religions have problem with understanding this - because they do not believe in rebirth and karma. As soon as you introduce these two concepts into (the) picture along with the eternal indestructible soul (something Semitic religions do believe in), everything makes sense. Read Bhagavad-Gita and everything would be as clear as daylight."

7. Who knows? It’s a mystery

Agnosticism is a rare virtue in the United States nowadays, but there were a few commenters who admitted to something less than the absolute certainty exhibited by atheists and evangelicals alike. "The answer," wrote Terry, "is we don't know where he was." Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom saw this "God works in mysterious ways" move as “ultimate cop-out/rationalization,” but I am not so sure.

In September 1862, in the midst of a much greater American tragedy, Abraham Lincoln wrote a private “Meditation on the Divine Will” in which he struggled to make sense of what God was doing in the Civil War. He later reworked those reflections into his second inaugural address, one of the greatest speeches in American history.

Surveying the corpse-ridden landscape of North and South, Lincoln observed, “Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other.” Clearly there was little good in slavery, he reasoned, yet equally clearly God was not giving a swift and sure victory to the Union. So what was God up to? In the end, Lincoln had to admit he did not know. Or, as he put it, “The Almighty has His own purposes.”

I suppose this is in a sense a “cop-out,” but it is a humble one, uninfected by the absolute certainties (either pro- or anti-God) that have shed more blood on earth than agnosticism ever will. It is also a classic example of answering a question with a question: What is God doing with this war? Who knows?

“Josephpusateri” also answered our question with a question. His comment was in my view the best of the hundreds I read, so I will end with it here:

"Oh, the blindness of such a question... as if only theodicy was a relevant question in white, American suburbs. Where is God in Afghanistan? Where is God in Gaza? Where is God in Syria? . . . Where is God, indeed."

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Christianity • Culture wars • Devil • Ethics • God • Violence

soundoff (4,074 Responses)
  1. signs and symbols

    My sympathy for the victims. However, here is the hope. Read the meaning. The dark night of the soul is rising. Aurora means "dawn". The movie was based on "Prey" or in other words pray. You can see it in the negative or the positive, it's a play on words. For those who believe in the God of Jerusalem, it is the dawning of the day for the soul and we need to pray through. Satan is at war with this dawn and is on the attack, he attacked the victims at the theatre. But's there IS a heaven and a place of peace and glory and we are moving towards it and you will see your loved ones again.

    July 28, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      You're certifiable!!
      Nutty as a fruit cake!!
      Wacked out of your mind!!
      2 sandwiches short of a picnic!!
      Elevator doesn't go to the top floor!!
      Not playing with a full deck!!

      July 28, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Horse feathers!

      July 29, 2012 at 2:02 am |
  2. Bala

    Wheres the god in Sri Lanka ?

    July 28, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      The last time I saw him, he was at the local watering hole knocking down a few brewskies with Tinker Bell and the Tooth Fairy.

      July 28, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
  3. georgex

    The availability of the Internet allows many doubters to express their views here as we become a more open society. In the past they didn't have the chance to meet or discuss their views and felt a bit isolated. Today there are organizations for non-believers such as http://www.secular.org that have meetings and interesting projects and just good conversation..
    Personally, I don't think we can blame God for these killings anymore than we should give him credit for the survivors. He seems to stay out of almost every human event.

    July 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Georgex, you seem to be of a perfectly sound mind!!
      Nice post!

      July 28, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Georgex, D'accord!

      July 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
  4. GOD PARTICLE UK Dave

    I arrived at the Swiss suicide clinic just in time for breakfast, only to be offered Cheerios! 🙂 🙂

    July 28, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Hmmm... And to think, there were Froot Loops at church. Just like every morning.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
  5. GOD PARTICLE UK Dave

    IMAGINE YOU'D HAVE A FUNNY DEATH !!!! 🙂 🙂
    Then you'd have a funny life again! 🙂 🙂

    July 28, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
  6. Hawkeye

    testing 123

    July 28, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
  7. j

    To those that say there is a God how can you say you know anything about him/her and that they have a hand in these sorts of things? To those that don't believe in any God where do your get those beliefs. And to those who are just here to rant, keep it up. Its fun to read.

    July 28, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • j

      What does getting free from religion bring you exactly?

      July 28, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Umm... The freedom to think rationally?

      July 28, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      J Man, being an atheist is not a belief. It's a complete lack of belief.

      July 28, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
  8. biologixco

    The Aurora Shooter is a mormon.
    Mitt Romney is a mormon.
    Can we really trust Mitt Romney?
    NO
    Obama2012~!

    July 28, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
  9. biologixco

    Beelzebub and Mitt Romney.
    Both workin' overtime.
    One destroys lives.
    Well...um...the other destroys lives too.
    Two peas in a pod.

    July 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
  10. biologixco

    God just flipped mankind the middle finger.
    He is mad at Republicans for causing woe and misery upon the Great American People.
    Just imagine the THOUSANDS of pets abandoned at shelters because their owners could no longer afford to care for them.
    Mitt Romney Swiss Bank Accounts.
    Children without food.
    Mitt Romney's new car elevator.

    July 28, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
  11. Mac

    psalms-68-20,-first-samuel-2-6,-deuteromony-32:29-GOD-controls-life-and-death.

    July 28, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Bible from beginning to end is Bullzhit!!

      July 28, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
  12. Peepo Pleez

    The Bible was not handed to mankind by God, nor was it dictated to human stenographers by God. It has nothing to do with God. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of God by a group of men during the 4th century.

    July 28, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
    • truth be told

      Except for the parts God wrote Himself.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Crap Be Told, did God write his stuff in longhand or was he using an early version of Word?

      July 28, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
    • truth be told

      Ancient Hebrew on stone tablets,

      July 28, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      What a nut job!! And how do you prove "god" wrote it? Finger prints? Or was it signed "sincerely god".

      July 28, 2012 at 8:32 pm |
    • truth be told

      The tablets are in the ark of the covenant, go see for yourself.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:35 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion. Not anything can be studied as a science, without our being in possession of the principles upon which it is founded; and as this is not the case with Christian theology, it is therefore the study of nothing.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • truth be told

      You are not too tightly wrapped are you. Go touch the ark of the covenant and you will meet God.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      @sleuth
      . You have no proof! Admit it already. And stop putting children around the world in danger..
      You're the one believing in a magic sky daddy, without any proof at all. It is you that isn't wrapped up tightly.
      you got your tin foil hat on tonight?

      July 28, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Crap be Told, just where is this ark you've been bragging about?

      July 28, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • Merlin

      Peteyroo

      " just where is this ark you've been bragging about?"

      It's right next to Excalibur! Go get 'em!

      July 28, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Merlin, good idea. Can I take Tinker Bell and the leprechauns with me?

      July 28, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      Where can I find this ark?

      July 28, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
  13. Peepo Pleez

    Joseph,
    . Is that a conversation you had with yourself?
    the problem is that you believe the bible is of god (if there is a god). But the bible is 100% of man, created for men, and for their property and possessions, of land and people alike.
    There is no truth in your bible. Its a fable, a fairy tale. God didnt write any bible, every bible on earth was written by man without any instruction from any god!
    Stop being an idiot, and use your head!!

    July 28, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • PAUL

      GOD IS EVERYWHERE AS AMERIE??

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw_zVjLhzcU&w=640&h=360]

      July 28, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • joseph

      The truth is out there. As I said in the story I'm still searching.
      Are you?

      July 28, 2012 at 6:51 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Sure, I'm always opened to new evidence, but so far I haven't found any conclusive facts that support this magical superman.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • Country Boy!!

      Here Deborah also chimed in: “This act of violence was not God's will. I get so tried of people blaming God for evil acts. Humans of their own free will do evil things.”

      Deborah I copied and pasted Your comment, hope you do not mind. It is a real pleasure to see another Christian's comment, that I totaly aggree with. There are so many people in the world, including Preachers and Pastors, that love God with all their heart, and they have a head knowledge of who God is, they need to get it in their Heart, Genesis 1 & 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have "dominion" over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Pastor Riley F. Where was God You ask, I say this out of Love Pastor. Genesis 2 2&3, And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
      2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. To Answer The question where was God, He was on His Throne Resting, With Jesus Christ sitting on the Right Hand of the Father. Genesis 2 & 17, But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Notice what God Said in that verse, "He did not say I will surely kill You" Here is a link with the strongs Hebrew & Greek Definitions!! Until You understand the Harvest System of God, you probally want understand.. That God Is Absolutely Good All The Time. This You need to know if it is not good & perfect it did not come from God, Here is Scriptures to back that up. John 10- 10, John 5-19, John 6- 45&46, Genesis 1-1; 11; 21; 25&26; 28; 31, Genesis 2- 1-4 and notice the change toward the latter part of verse 4 the LORD God, God means El-o-heem, Father, Son and Holy Sprit. " Plural" Noun Person!! LORD " Jehovah" Verb meaning action.. Gen. 1 16&17, Romans 5 12-14, Gen. 4 1-3, Gen. 3 17-18, Gen. 4 9-10 and Gen. 15 16-17!!! It is in The living Word of God, known the Bible, Study it Yourself!!!

      Thank You Deborah! With Love To My Sister In Christ Jesus!! I Love All My Sisters & Bros. Adam Took the sin off the tree, Jesus Christ put it back on the tree!! Praise Be To God, For He Is Good All The Time!! Amen!!!

      July 28, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      When god said "Let "us" make man in "our" image, after our likeness:" who was he talking too?
      Was it his BFF Satan?

      July 28, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • justme

      juat got back and thought i would start here if you are checking back, to answer the question who in "let us" ? that is the prehuman spirit that became Jesus in human form. he was the first born of all creation, see Colossians1:15 . i will stop here to see if you ever followed my last comment and if you do not come back then i am typing to no one.

      July 30, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
  14. joseph

    "Wow," said Cyril. "That's amazing." "So what explanation do you have for defending intelligent design, because based on what you've told me so far, I don't have to ask if you believe in it."

    Grandpa answered, "I don't see how anyone can doubt that there is an intelligent design throughout the universe. We praise the works of DaVinci, Rembrandt, Picasso, Romeare Bearden, Monet and other artists as genius and masterful works of art. Yet even at their best the works of these masters are pale two-dimensional imitations of the beauty found in nature. Did anyone craft a Mona Lisa or a Rodin by random chance? No, they were seen and conceived in the mind and brought forth
    into the light for the rest of the world to see and reproduce replicas."

    "Grandpa you make everything sound so logical. I bet you could use logic to prove God."

    "On the contrary Cyril, you cannot use the limited tools of human reasoning and/or logic to prove God. Just as God is beyond our limited conception of time, God is also beyond our limited reasoning powers. The atheist uses reason and logic to say that God cannot be proved or defined. Well you can define an ocean, but the words defining the ocean are not that ocean or its waves and tides. They do not define its depth nor its breadth. In fact, oceanographers will tell you that they only know a little about our oceans; they are still exploring the major oceans of the world, and they are still finding new things. Even if you jump in an ocean you do not know everything about it. This is the way of life in so many fields of study: mathematics, science, economics, physics, medicine, psychology, etc. People are still exploring and finding new things. Those who seek God are still exploring and finding new things about God."

    "But Grandpa, how do you explore God?"

    Grandpa answered, "In the same way that you explore love, beauty, art, music or a starlit sky - with your eyes, ears, mind and heart open to the infinite possibilities of inspiration, growth, exaltation, awe and wonder. And . . ."
    "By reading the Bible," Cyril and Grandpa said in unison.
    "Thanks a lot for the talk," said Cyril. "My biology teacher kind of shook my faith, but you've got me back on the right track."

    “But there’s just one other thing,” Winston said and he persisted in asking, “Grandfather, if God is all powerful why does God let people kill and hurt each other?”

    Well grandson, the better question is why do humans who started out as the least powerful of the animals and have now become the most powerful creatures on the planet allow it and do not stop killing and hurting each other? We are free to stop this madness!”

    July 28, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • justme

      thanks joe, well done. most do not think about how man chose to listen to the serpent after the creator told him what to do. man chose his course and Jehovah has given him a limited time to prove he was never meant to guide himself independent of his maker. that time is about up and we will see what a wonderful future awaits when HE takes HIS great power and begins ruling.

      July 28, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Joseph, & just me.
      . You both need serious mental evaluations. Though I believe you are both the same person, I have no doubt that you believe differently!
      you fuk'n nuts in a bucket to put it mildly! Get help, and stop being such a degenerate on society.

      July 28, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
    • justme

      P P, what was I thinking when I spoke without consulting you? I am so sorry and I will not do that again. please forgive me.

      July 28, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      @justme
      Think as freely as you want, but seriously think for yourself, and not what you've been brainwashed to believe. Stop spewing nonsense as facts until you have conclusive evidence.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Giuseppe, you're of course full of crap. Don't take it personally unless you want to. I was sitting in a bar with your pastor and your mother discussing religion the other day. I was having a diet soda while they were knocking down cold brews. Those two are amazing. Your mom brought your favorite Bibles along, so we used them as coasters. If they smell like beer when you get them back, don't blame me. They got so drunk that our discussion devolved into shouting match–between those two. I sat quietly in amazement as they tried to top each other with outrageous Bible stories. I finally said it was time to go, so they each got a couple of 40s to go and we left going our separate ways.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • justme

      PP; just got back and i wish i had time to share the evidence i have found from studying the bible and related literature since I started in the 60s but time does not allow so if you are sincere go to J W.org and you will learn what the bible really teaches. i will check back in the A.M. to see if you are open to serious discussion. i am not just "spewing out" but have done much research to come to the conclusion that a true God wants you to know him and not just what someone who wants your money says. there is a difference.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Absolutely "just me" im eager to learn. And always interested in facts.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Giuseppe, was grandpa in your story Jerry Sandusky?

      July 28, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
  15. Peepo Pleez

    It's estimated that every month between 1 and 5 children die in the US alone due to the religious "prayers" and "faith healing" beliefs of their parents. We need to change the laws that allow this assault on our children and our reasoning. Please help us by taking part in this important effort.
    STOP THE MADNESS!!! PROTECT OUR CHILDREN FROM THESE RELIGIOUS IDIOTS!!!

    July 28, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • Country Boy!!

      Peepo P. You seem to be a very smart with numbers, you say that it is estimated that 1 and 5 children die every month, due to the religious prayers, To start with I am not religious, but I am a Christian. You are a very smart person, please explain to us, how you know there is no God, and that the Bible is not true, the Bible is the living word of God.
      Since you are very good with numbers, Why don't you tell us just how many innocent Babies, die each month at the hands of Abortion Doctors and Nurses.. Do you have a number for that, Because of people that don't believe in the Almighty God and the Living Word of God, that men did write because they were Inspired by God, Through The Holy Spirt!!

      It took 1500 years to write the Bible. Now give us a No. on Abortions each month.
      Remember God Loves You and I love You!!! P.. Got to go now it is about time for Church!!!

      July 29, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      how can you be christian, but not religious. That makes no sense.
      But I digress!

      However 96% of all abortions in the united states are committed by Christians.
      how's that for numbers for ya?

      July 30, 2012 at 1:51 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Peepo, it is very easy to be Christian and at the same time not be religious. The denominations within Christianity are just groups of the Faithful who just happen to agree on their interpretation of the the Bible text. If your relationship with God is one that you do not want to go to church and that you do not desire fellowship with other Christians then you can still be Faithful to Jesus and God on you own.

      Think about it this way. You can learn a martial art but not be affliated with any set form or dojo.

      July 30, 2012 at 2:01 am |
  16. Stand for JESUS

    God is love and is everywhere. God is a person and wants to have a personal relationship with a person that is willing to listen. God is not at fault with the wrong that goes on in the world, it is our fault for wanting to live the way we please. We all can see where the world is headed and it is not God's fault. Read your Bible.

    July 28, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Many rank and file Christians sincerely believe the Bible is a direct communication from God to man. And from recent conversations with many sincere Christians I know this is currently true for many believers.
      however the Bible is strictly a man-made collection of mythology. When you realize this, the mind loses yet another shackle of "revelation" and is soon on its way to full freedom and progress.

      July 28, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • joseph

      I guess you're mad at everyone involved in religion. The Hebrews, B'hais, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Sikhs, Zorastrians, Jains and Muslims. Einstein believed in God and some say he was the smartest man on the planet. Newton invented calculus the mathematical language that so much of modern science was built upon and he believed in God. Ghandi and King believed in God. They believed but they understood that its alright to explore and search for how things work and if necessary to work for change. I'm sure that like with everything else there are smart people and dumb people in religion, atheism, school, sports, government, business and life.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Im not the one telling Hebrews, B’hais, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Sikhs, Zorastrians, Jains and Muslims, that they are going to burn in hell for all eternity because they dont believe in Jesus Christ. Thats what you do.
      but of course you have to, because they say the same about you for not believing as they do. Thats the problem with religions, they all claim their own is undoubtedly right, yet can provide no facts to support it. And will use it to oppress and even kill those who dont believe as they do.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Lie for Jeebus, sorry to inform you that God and Jesus are no more real than the Easter Bunny and Tinker Bell.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:27 pm |
    • truth be told

      @peteyroo
      Once again you'd be wrong.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      @sleuth be told.

      What proof do you have that peteyroo is wrong?

      July 28, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    July 28, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • niknak

      It changes nothing.
      But go ahead and waste your time doing it.
      But don't let me catch you going to a doctor when you get sick and use science to heal you.

      July 28, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      I see you're still praying for personal wealth and a naked man.

      July 28, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      REALLY?
      ATHEISM WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT FOR THIS CHILD...
      Harrison Johnson. In September of 1998 he was stung by over 430 yellow-jackets. His parents are Christians who believe in "faith-healing" so they prayed for him for seven hours before calling for medical help. Harrison died. His parents actions are perfectly legal in the state of Florida where this tragedy took place. This murderous behavior is also legal in 45 other states in the 50 United States. The only states that are progressive enough to not permit the killing of innocent children for religious "reasons" are Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts and South Dakota.
      MORE PROOF THAT PRAYER CHANGES NOTHING YOU FUK'NG MORONIC IDIOT!!

      July 28, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Amy Hermanson from Sarasota, Florida. She had diabetes. She also had Christian parents. The two don't mix and Amy lost. Amy was visibly sick for a period of four weeks. As many people do who believe in the hocus pocus of faith-healing, Amy's mother was pretending everything was alright. She took Amy to visit a neighbor who encouraged her to take Amy to a doctor. She refused. A few minutes latter Amy crawled into the room begging her mother to take her home. Amy died a few days later.

      More proof that your ignorance is a danger to children. get over your fairy tales and wake up from you zombie state! You've been brainwashed, and youre to afraid to think for yourself. I seriously hope you dont have children. You certainly dont have the mental capacity to care for them!
      PRAYER CHANGES NOTHING!!!
      PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, AND STOP THE MADNESS!!

      July 28, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven conclusively

      July 28, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      I've given you several incidents tonight that proves prayer changes nothing. Scientist have proven time and time again, that prayer changes nothing.
      And you can't offer one smidgen of evidence that prayer changes anything, yet you keep spouting your idiocies!
      Your insane, a danger to society, and have no business having, caring for, or even being around children.
      You're a perfect example of mental illness. Get help soon!!! In the meantime, STAY AWAY FROM CHILDREN!!

      July 28, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Peepo, this spammer is a mindless buffoon who has posts this everywhere. They have been proven wrong numerous times, but they persist. I suspect that the person they are trying most to convince is their self.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Im sure you're right Tallulah! you nailed it when you said "mindless"!

      Its frustrating trying to reason with idiots!! Lol

      July 28, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things
      Proven
      Powerful

      July 28, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • Peepo Pleez

      Prayer changes nothing its been proven weak and unsuccessful!!

      It you want something done, whispering to your sky daddy, is no better than writing to Santa clause.

      However if your a child, putting a tooth under your pillow may bring you a buck or two!! 😉

      July 28, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Theism is not healthy for whatever, I see you've made a slight change in your message although it's still patently false. I'll change my response ever so slightly as well. I see that your idea of prayer is to beg/pray for personal wealth and for a naked man to show up at your door. Has either desire come to pass? One is more likely than the other. Please give us the details. We're waiting......

      July 28, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
  18. Julie

    The Lord doesn't guarantee any us another day – that is why He says Today is the day of salvation. He allows free will. We are just passing through – our real home is not this one – Jesus said we will have trouble but take heart He has overcome the world – Christians go through many trials and tribulations but we overcome them all.

    July 28, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
    • niknak

      Salvation will be when the sheep like yourself finally open you minds and free yourselves from religion.
      The faster we but all these fairy tales behind us the better for humanity.
      Your god does not exist Julie, sorry. You have been fed a bunch of lies by people who prey on people like you for profit.

      July 28, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Foolie, it's so sad to see you so confused. Mother Nature was cruel indeed when she gave atheists all the brains and talent, leaving poor wretched creatures such as yourself with with single-digit IQs and emotional instability. Whenever you have a question, turn to an atheist for an intelligent answer. We are here for you.

      July 28, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  19. JR

    God gave us the choice between evil and good, This person chose evil for that he will never rest in peace. Many complain about GOD in our daily lives schools, money..... And when tragety haappens they take pot shots at him, but when needed ask please help me. God lives within us and when you choose to ignore his wishes then you choose to commit evil and transfer your heart to satan. God bless the victims and familes of the Aurora, Co shooting.

    July 28, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • niknak

      Phuck god.

      July 28, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Junior, there is no God. BTW, there are no unicorns or leprechauns either. Sorry, no Tooth fairy, no Tinker Bell, no Santa Claus, and no Easter Bunny. Let's see. Have I missed anyone? Oh yes, there's no Jesus of Nazareth either. You would make more of your life if you would live for the here and now. Be good for goodness' sake.

      July 28, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • JWT

      What a load of crap JR.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
  20. niknak

    Lets see, I go with option #1, there is no stinking god.
    And lets not start and end with just this.
    Where was your stinking god on 9/11?
    Or Columbine?
    Or Pearl Harbor?
    Or any other infamous date?
    Thats right, nowhere to be seen.

    Open your mind and think for yourself, get free from religion.

    July 28, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
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