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The politics of Romney's Israel trip

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Israel • Judaism

soundoff (47 Responses)
  1. Sergio Roa

    Easy: The enemies of US and Israel are the same....

    August 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • oralisM

      Their lying, cheating ways? "We have met the enemy and they is us".

      August 3, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    August 2, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!-

      August 3, 2012 at 11:28 am |
  3. Who invited me?
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    July 31, 2012 at 10:21 am |
  4. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    We can revisit the erectile dysfunction of all the males I know some other time. Best when my head's not splitting. We should focus on the issue at hand. Do we all see Romney as the lickspittle he really is? Is it clear yet?

    July 31, 2012 at 8:25 am |
    • Leo

      Tom, Please tell us all what Obama's qualifications are? He will go down as the WORST President EVER!!

      The Liberal press coverage is so obvious, but the ignorant will never look into the facts.

      July 31, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  5. neil

    Help us save the jobs of 5 people
    http://www.indiegogo.com/save-our-jobs
    Please help

    July 31, 2012 at 12:34 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Get a job , Neil.

      July 31, 2012 at 8:26 am |
  6. Leo

    Funny how Mitts trip to Israel is Political but Obama's "Evolution" to support Gay Marriage was not.

    July 30, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Who said it wasn't political?

      Putting words in others' mouths is dishonest, Leo the Limp.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Leo

      What words did I put in others mouths?

      July 30, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What? Forgot what you just wrote? You should get checked out for symptoms of Alzheimer's, Leo, dear.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • Leo

      Trying to chase Christians away again Tom?

      What are you so afraid of?

      If you are so right, why do you use such childish tactics?

      Or is that all you can do when you know you are wrong?

      July 30, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What "childish tactics", Leo Limpdick? Tactics like pretending anyone is claiming that Obama's stance on gay marriage isn't at least partly politically motivated?

      Like that, you lame ninny?

      July 30, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Leo

      I don't think anyone thought Obama's change on gay marriage wasn't a political move. I agree with the stance that it should be allowed, but I hold no illusion that it wasn't political, and I don't know anyone who this it wasn't.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What am I "wrong" about, Leo? Go ahead and prove that anything I said was incorrect.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
    • Leo

      Tom, I just proved you wrong that I did not put any words in anyones mouth, as you claimed I was dishonest.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You proved nothing, you moron. You imply that liberals claim that Romney's visit is political but that Obama's change in views on gay marriage is not.

      You lie.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • Leo

      Read the CNN article on Obama and hs support

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/09/obamas-gay-marriage-support-riles-religious-conservatives-but-political-effects-not-yet-clear/

      Now see how they quote Obama. and that his support was "personal"

      "Obama stressed in the interview that his support was personal and that he would leave the issue of marriage to the states. But many conservatives chafed at the idea that the president's personal views would not affect public policy."

      Wake up CNN is one sided and is a bunch of left wing folks, why do you think we have these topics?

      July 30, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • Leo

      At least Hawaii admits it was political, but once again for the pro Obama CNN it was "Personal".

      July 30, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Leo

      In some cases, the president's personal views should not affect his policy making. The president has to follow the laws as well you know. I personally think that since the supreme court ruled marriage a civil right, that it should be a federal issue. The times prsonal views should not affect public policy is when A) It's illegal; B) It is for purely religiou reasons; C) It oversteps the power granted to the executive branch.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
    • Leo

      Hawaii, I don't disagree with you. My point was clear and that was CNN did not come out and say point blank that Obama's move was political as they did with Romney's trip to Israel.

      It is all political they are running for office!! But the followers of CNN will swallow the personal touch!!

      July 30, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      If you dislike CNN's political views, why are you availing yourself of its free website, Leo? If you had any integrity, you'd vote with your fingers and leave for other news sites.

      But of course, you don't have any integrity, so you'll continue to post here for free and then bit@h about the bias.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • Leo

      I am a believer deffending my beliefs, why are you on a belief site if you don't believe?

      Funny how you point out that CNN has all of these Political discussions on a belief site.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      It's "defending", Leo. Why doesn't Jesus give you a brain?

      July 30, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
    • Leo

      Tom, look at how you post, and then come back and tell us all about integrity and honesty.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Go look at your own posts, Leo. You're the one who defends bigots.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • Leo

      Tom, Definition of BIGOT

      a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

      Honestly this fits you more than nearly anyone on thee sites. Wake up and take a look at yourself!!

      July 30, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
  7. Bob

    Since we have "Kindness" dumping her bible bile on us incessantly, let's have a look at what's really in her Christian book of nasty AKA the bible. Fine horrid stuff like this, from both OT and NT:

    Numbers 31:17-18
    17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
    18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

    Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

    Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

    Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

    And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

    So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    July 30, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Your burnt offerings are fragrant and pleasing to me, Bob.

      July 30, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      More troll poop.

      July 30, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • Leo

      Wow Bob still pasting those same verses? Yes God will judge evil, and the Jews were punished for serving false Gods.

      I find it funny how you seem to miss completely the 99% of the Bible that reveals a loving God who is willing to forgive your sins, and provide eternal life to those that only need to believe.

      But keep living your life and use excuses to not follow, we will all see in the end!!

      July 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Translation of Leo the Limpdick's post: "I can't wait to see all of you people who I hate roasting on a spit while I pluck my little lyre in heaven."

      What a guy!

      July 30, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Leo

      Tom do they still let 4 year olds on here?? Do your parents know you snuck on again? Time for your bedtime isn't it?

      Thanks for the laughs though!!!

      July 30, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Leo, are you this limp a dick in real life?

      July 30, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • Leo

      Tom, You better go nighty night, you have kindergarten tomorrow!!

      July 30, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You can't even troll with anything but limp-dick-ness, Leo.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
  8. kindness

    This is my experience... Thank you.

    MY personal testimony.
    A thought to consider without an ego response

    I Accepted Jesus christ as my lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners. Even once we are saved by christs merciful grace we will still experience adversity to mold us to adhering to the truth.
    We will slip... But not fall of the ship ...carrying us onward to perfection in christs grace.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from some other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith ....above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read romans or corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are by faith above reason in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    Romans 10:9

    "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

    July 30, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Bob

      Since we have "Kindness" dumping her bible bile on us repeatedly, let's have a look at what's really in her Christian book of nasty AKA the bible. Fine horrid stuff like this, from both OT and NT:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      July 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
  9. William Demuth

    He is a Pander Bear, who betrays America for votes.

    I hope he gets whacked.

    July 30, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • Thinker22

      "Betray" means putting the interests of America's enemies over the interests of Americans. Are you sure that THIS is what Romney is doing?

      July 30, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  10. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Pity. Haven't read any of your stuff this morning.

    July 30, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You haven't been looking for it, Troll.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So little time... Anyway, troll, Romney has been frenching Bibi Netanyahu, banging his head against the wailing wall and generally partying it up in Israel. What are we to make of this? Will American Jews be best served by this delusional fop?

      July 30, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
  11. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Mitt thinks he is a Jew. Do other Jews agree that he is a Jew?

    July 30, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Not my post.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:27 am |
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