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My Take: Chick-fil-A controversy reveals religious liberty under threat
July 31st, 2012
10:36 AM ET

My Take: Chick-fil-A controversy reveals religious liberty under threat

Editor's Note: R. Albert Mohler Jr. is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

By R. Albert Mohler Jr., Special to CNN

(CNN)–Cultural upheavals often occur in the most surprising contexts. Who expected that a clash between sexuality and religious liberty would be focused on a restaurant company mainly known for its chicken sandwiches?

And yet the controversy over Chick-fil-A is a clear sign that religious liberty is at risk and that this nation has reached the brink of tyrannical intolerance from at least some of our elected leaders.

The controversy ignited when Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy, son of the company’s legendary founder, Truett Cathy, told a Baptist newspaper that he and his company “operate on biblical principles” and “are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit.”

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Defining Chick-fil-A as “a family business,” Cathy went on to say that “We intend to stay the course. … We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”

Media attention to Cathy’s comments revealed a radio interview he had given a few weeks earlier in which he commented that “I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at (God) and say, ‘We know better than You what constitutes a marriage.'

“I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think we would have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about,” he said.

Within days, elected officials in Chicago, Boston and New York were pledging to deny the company access to their cities.

“Because of (Dan Cathy’s) ignorance, I will deny Chick-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward,” Chicago Alderman Proco Moreno said, in a threat echoed by
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

Boston Mayor Thomas Menino was just as blunt: “Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston,” he said. “We’re an open city. We’re a city at the forefront of inclusion.”

But the kind of inclusion he had in mind would evidently exclude Chick-fil-A.

New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who just recently married her lesbian partner, called upon New York University to kick Chick-fil-A off its campus.

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Echoing the Boston mayor’s lack of irony, she also called for exclusion in the name of inclusion: “We are a city that believes our diversity is our greatest strength, and we will fight anything and anyone that runs counter to that.”

Within days, Moreno, Emanuel and Menino had qualified their statements somewhat, promising to operate within the law and constitutional limits. Those clarifications became necessary when legal authorities quickly recognized threatened violations of First Amendment rights.

To his credit, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an ardent supporter of same-sex marriage, warned, “You can’t have a test for what the owner’s personal views are before you decide to give a permit to do something in the city.”

Note carefully that Chick-fil-A was not charged with discrimination in hiring or service but simply with the fact that its president and chief operating officer supports traditional marriage.

Note something else: Dan Cathy’s statements were explicitly religious. He made his comments to the religious press, including a Baptist newspaper. His comments were infused with his Christian convictions, the same convictions that have led the company to close for business every Sunday.

The threats made against Chick-fil-A betray the principle of religious liberty that is enshrined within the U.S. Constitution. Civic officials in some of the nation’s largest and most powerful cities have openly threatened to oppose Chick-fil-A for the singular reason that its president openly spoke of his Christian convictions concerning marriage.

When Quinn, one of the most powerful officials in New York, announces, “I do not want establishments in my city that hold such discriminatory views,” is she also threatening the Roman Catholic Church, Orthodox Jewish synagogues and Islamic mosques?

They, along with evangelical Christian denominations, openly oppose the legalization of same-sex marriage. Cathy’s statements are completely consistent with his own denomination’s statement of faith and official declarations. He was speaking as a Christian and as a Southern Baptist, and he was speaking as a man who does his best to live and speak as he believes.

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When Emanuel and Moreno tell Chick-fil-A to stay out of Chicago, are they audacious enough to deliver that same message to the churches, mosques and synagogues of their city that also oppose same-sex marriage? What do they do with the fact that their own state does not allow same-sex marriages?

This country is deeply divided over the issue of same-sex marriage, and the controversy over Chick-fil-A is an ominous sign that many of the proponents of same-sex marriage are quite willing to violate religious liberty and to use any and all means to silence and punish any individual or organization that holds the contrary view – a view sustained by the voters in 29 states by constitutional amendments.

Addressing the intersection of same-sex marriage and religious liberty, George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley has warned that the government must not be “viewed as unfairly trying to pre-determine the debate or harass one side.”

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That is exactly what some elected officials have just shown themselves ready to do. It will not stop with Chick-fil-A. Who will be next to be told to get out of town?

Disclosures:

I know Dan and Truett Cathy and other members of the Cathy family. Truett has spoken on our campus. I have prayed at the opening of multiple Chick-fil-A locations. I serve on the board of directors of Focus on the Family, which has been supported by Chick-fil-A. My son, Christopher, is a part-time service employee of a local Chick-fil-A restaurant in Louisville. I have not communicated with Chick-fil-A about this column.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of R. Albert Mohler Jr.

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Filed under: Christianity • Church and state • Homosexuality • My Take • Opinion • Religious liberty

soundoff (3,216 Responses)
  1. indogwetrust

    Its a fact that if you don't believe in Sky Fairy's son you're going to burn for eternity. How ridiculous is that statement?

    July 31, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • dave

      About as ridiculous as you could make it, I'm sure. Keep trying.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      It's beyond ridiculous, but much like if you say a common word over and over it begins to sound strange and lose it's meaning, thats religion. Just repeat it enough and simple minds just melt and lose any sense of logic and reason.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • CosmicC

      Who cares if it is? As long as they don't try to force others to believe, discriminate against those that don't, or try to legislate their beliefs, leave them alone with their delusions.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Which sky fairy?

      July 31, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  2. Rainer Braendlein

    Dear gays, your gayness is a clear sign that you life not in God's presence, but in the presence of the powers of death. God still invites you to return into his confident community. By God's overwhelming Life and power of Resurrection you can get released from your gayness, and wait for a beautiful wife. God delivered his precious Son for your sins sake, dear gay, don't you think that he will also give you a wife?

    "Within days, elected officials in Chicago, Boston and New York were pledging to deny the company access to their cities."

    I guess we as Christians should not meddle in public affairs too much. If the temporal rulers want allow gay marriage, let them marry. The only thing what we can do is to tell the temporal rulers that God will not be very enthusiastic about gay marriage, and when God puts his food down in heaven it could cause an earthquake on earth.

    Gayness and gay marriage are a clear indicator for disbelief. Someone cannot be a gay and a Christian at the same time. That is impossible. Yet, one should be aware that there are many other sins which cause God's wrath: glutony, addiction for drugs and alcohol, greed for honor, power and riches, anger, hate, lie, envy, etc., etc.. If someone judges a gay, he should be aware that he himself may be judged by his own sins.

    At any rate we cannot allow gays to be Church members or to frequent church services, or to call themselves Christians. A man must decide, if he wants to be a sinner or a saint. Nobody can be a saint and a sinner at the same time. The Church is the "club" of the saints, but not the club of the sinners. Before a gay can become a church member, he has to repent.

    Concerning ordinary gays which we meet daily like neighbours, workmates, classmates, etc.:

    We as Christians have to treat them kindly. This is the clear will of God. Even if they are not willing to accept Jesus, we still shall treat them kindly. If we love the sinners, we tell them the gospel without words.

    Let us remember that Christ died for us, when we still were sinners, and some of us needed many decades to realize God's releasing Grace in Jesus Christ. As long as we live together on earth we must imply that everybody can still become a believer, even if he is about to die (that doesn't mean that you, dear reader, should not convert right now).

    Let us also keep in mind that our body is still sinful, and by any misfortune we can commit heavy sins too. Don't let us neglect the morning prayer where we invite Jesus to rule us, so that our sinful body may not prevail. Let us remember our King David who made some mistakes (notice: David's mistakes are no excuse for a perpetual sinning; David repented after a while, and his faith was restored; we will meet him in heaven).

    A Christian is only a sinner which is wrapped into God's releasing Grace or into Jesus. Only by God's Grace a Christian overcomes the sinfulness of his body. So, a Christian has no reason to become proud, because all glory belongs to God who releases us. Once, we will cast our crowns before him, if we have deserved a crown.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • indogwetrust

      You are brainwashed. Sorry

      July 31, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      dear Rainer Braendlein

      you're an idiot.

      the end.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Eeeeww

      "A Christian is only a sinner which is wrapped into God's releasing Grace"

      That sounds pretty gay to me...

      Can anyone say pearly gates...?

      July 31, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • phoodphite

      Now bootyfunk – I don't think he is an id*iot. He is rather someone who has been misguided all his life – someone who did not ask enough questions, someone who is too comfy in his easy chair and the that things foreign to him, like gays, make him want to go p00py.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
  3. WASP

    @Romans
    " And where in scripture are these atypical marriages endorsed by God as what was intended??? Don't let your emotions type for you, use sound reasoning. My knowledge of scripture shows me that these marriages you list are FAR from what God has intended as shown from the first marriage between Adam and Eve before original sin and before the fall of man.
    July 31, 2012 at 12:24 pm"
    1) the "first marriage" failed in divorce. lillith; adam's first wife left him seeing "god" and adam wanted her to be submissive, she refused and disappeared. that's the reason adam was searching the garden for "the most intelligent" of the beasts.
    2) adam and eve weren't "married" they were created. humans create humans; doesn't mean your son and daughter are "married" just because you and your wife created them.
    3) on your other post, it doesn't say anywhere in the bible anything as striaght forward as " man and woman only shall be wed." people only interrpt that way due to the whole "adam and eve" story. so no the bible doesn't say same gender marriage is wrong, just unnatural as far as procreation is concerned.
    4) bottom line: religion has ZERO, NADDA, ZILCH to do with marriage other than conducting the ceremony. if you want to get married the government has to give the OK, which is that nice litle marriage lisence they give folks, that said you are legally married. you can have 10,000 ceremonies at any church or religious place you choose, if the state/government doesn't condone that "marriage" you are not married.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
  4. Leon

    Pseudo discrimination rules the nation. Gays werent targeted for genocide quarted off to ghettoes murdered and lynched and disproportionately sent to prison...they're just bullied in school. So was I. thats how I learned to fight until i grew into my big teeth and feet. Are gays that scared of not being excepted that they need there own bill of rights or what?

    July 31, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Let's get spelling working for you Leon. Grammar and ideas may follow.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Jim

      Gays are too busy being the foot soldiers to the atheists cowards that crucified Jesus Christ. The atheists need to repent to Jesus Christ for all their sins, especially loving and worshiping Satan throughout the centuries.

      John 3:1-21

      July 31, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      You seem to be advocating for more abuse for children so they are required to fight for their survival to grow up. I can understand from a person of color claiming gay's don't have it as hard as they did, but that is no reason to continue the cycle of bullying and abuse for gays, it should be a wake up call that says any discrimination in schools is unacceptable.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • toad

      Atheist filth always return to their vomit. Their lies are always the same.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • CosmicC

      Sorry to disappoint you, but gays were sent to concentration camps by the Nazi's. They are still subject to discrimination, verbal and physical abuse.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • VisionFromAfar

      Exhibit A: <a href="http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Police-Investigating-Home-Invasion-Assault–Attempted-Arson-163330006.htmlNebraska woman assaulted, knifed, and burned for being gay.
      Exhibit B: Louisville girl beaten by three strangers for being "out".

      Go on. Tell me more about how tough you had it.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  5. BoldGeorge

    It is worth mentioning, and I'm sure most bible-believing Christians would agree, that this is just the tip of the iceberg in regards to Christians being blasted because of their public stance on Christian values. It's all biblical. I'm actually rejoicing in the fact that the Bible has prophesied about this milleniums ago, once again proving that God's word is indeed 100% reliable.

    But I do not rejoice in the fact that most people still refuse to believe God's word and be delivered by it. Remember, though Christ did come to save the world, those who refuse to believe in Him cannot be saved. Why would salvation be dispensed to someone who refuses to believe that he or she is lost? Pride is a killer, my friends.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
  6. toad

    Don't hate homosexuals. Just expose and deplore the filthy things they do.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • dave

      Get a life, son. Get out and meet some real people. Get laid.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
  7. Mass Debater

    "We’re an open city. We’re a city at the forefront of inclusion.” But the kind of inclusion he had in mind would evidently exclude Chick-fil-A."

    This is like the KKK stating that it feels like people are being prejudiced against them. "We hate blacks and Jew's and don't want them in America anymore, but we are sick of the intollerance being showed towards us and are angry we arent being invited into more American towns..."

    "Chick-fil-A was not charged with discrimination in hiring or service but simply with the fact that its president and chief operating officer supports traditional marriage." And the KKK hasn't been charged with "discrimination in hiring or service" but simply with the fact that it's core is "support" for traditional white supremecy.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • BoldGeorge

      What a comparison! You forget that the KKK is built on the foundation of hatred and wouldn't mind seeing non-whites dead. A true biblical Christian, though he or she may be opposed to sin-nature, does hope and would delight in the salvation of a non-believer.

      I for one hate sin. I have committed it, we all commit it, but I still hate it. So I would not promote it, flaunt it, nor condone any sinful behavior, but I would rejoice to know someone has accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior and has been blessed with eternal life. Anything less than that I would consider to be hateful.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • scott

      That is one of the most ignorant comparisons I've ever seen. As well as being apples to oranges, it's not even accurate. The KKK has repeatedly been charged with discrimination. It's entire core belief is discrimination. The reality is that Dan Cathy hasn't not discriminated against any individuals. I know of two openly gay men that work at our local Chick Fil A.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Jake

      Pretty sure the KKK murdered people and actively sought the discrimination of blacks. Used scared tactics and threats, intimidation and terrorism. In no way is Chick fil a actively discriminating against customers or employees they just support traditional marriage. To equate them to someone like the KKK is ludicrous and does harm to your argument.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      My point was that you cannot claim discrimination while also discriminating or it makes you a giant hypocrite. The only time this doesn't apply is when you discriminate against discrimators. What the Boston Mayor is saying is that they are a city open and welcome to all, all except those who are not open and welcome to all.

      The authors view as well as many sad small minded Christians and republicans is essentially the same as the claims of reverse racism with affirmative action. Whites dominate the job landscape for 150 years so reasonable judges force schools or industry to accept a small percentage of minorities and the whites scream "Reverse Racism!! Reverse Racism!!"

      The author of this article is a bigot and a fool but sadly has plenty of like minded followers who buy up this wormwood and drink it down and will hold on to this verbal poison to their dying breath.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      When they say "support for traditional marriage" how do we know they don't mean in the pre-legalized interacial marriage days as being "traditional"? How is gay marriage bans any different that interacial marriage bans that existed for more than a century in this country?

      Not only is the comparison valid but it's almost exactly the same, there is no difference other than the fact that you have been raised to accept blacks and whites marrying but you find it icky for two men to do so. It's hard to get more bigoted and ignorant than a white Christian republican who thinks they are God's gift to the world, it's just too bad their God isn't real and the gift they bring is that of divisiveness and reduces intelligence.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  8. Ting

    'Gayness is the sin of the people which have lost the control of their se-xuality'

    Ignorance is the sin of the people which have lost the control of their ability to learn.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Tang

      How does one control their ability to learn?

      July 31, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • phoodphite

      Tang

      By not being a lemming when it comes to religion and start asking some questions.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
  9. CosmicC

    I am a strong supporter of marriage equality and an atheist, but I cannot support governmental bans on religion. I do not believe it right that they be denied permits. Let them open stores wherever zoning permits. Sane, loving people can then picket them. I do not doubt that they can last long financially in NYC.
    That said, Chick-fil-a is NOT a religion and comparing them to a religious organization is invalid. It is a company and is subject to the law protecting individual rights without the exemptions granted to churchs, synogogues and mosques. I have to wonder about equal opportunity in the workplace. How high could an LGBT employee rise before being denied advancement?

    July 31, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
  10. PrimeNumber

    Until now, the enemies of religion have simply demanded "don't shove your religion down out throats." Cathy has not forced his views down anyone's throat. But oviously the Cathy's are not allowed to have their opinions, no matter how quiet. This shows the actual intent of the Secular Nazis. They not only want religious people to be quiet, they now want religious people to think what they (the Secular Nazi's) tell them to think. The Seculars have blown their cover, showing us who they really are.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • CosmicC

      ...and that is why many atheists, like myself, defend his right to say what he says. His actions open his company to boycotts by individuals, but not legal action by the government. If you want a reasonable debate the first step is not to generalize about everybody on the other side.
      BTW, please don't use the term Nazi in that way. Until someone tries to commit genocide, find another term to describe them.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      100% with you on that CosmicC. In this situation I'm for just leaving it to the freemarket.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Dan

      "They not only want religious people to be quiet, they now want religious people to think what they (the Secular Nazi's) tell them to think"

      Dripping with irony there Hegel.

      Religious folks are allowed to be simple minded little bigots. I just won't patronize their establishments.

      What is really funny, is the obvious intelligence difference between the two sides.

      July 31, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
  11. indogwetrust

    Religious liberty is under threat because people don't want to put up with a bunch of hate mongers?

    July 31, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Jake

      Explain to me how supporting traditional marriage is a form of hate? Someone please tell me that?

      July 31, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
  12. GlittersnipeMagazine

    I have no problem with Chick-Fil-A or any other company stating their personal beliefs whatsoever. I fully support Mayor Bloomberg's refusal to jump on the bandwagon and ban the company from - further - opening more of their properties in New York City. If you choose to support the fast food chain because you feel the same as stated by the owner of the company then I have no problem with that. I strongly disagree with Chick-fil-A, however, and their opinions and I will no longer frequent their business. And by the way, right reverend, you make some valid points, but let's not lose our perspective - Chick-fil-A is a business and mosques and churches are not. Put your chicken where your mouth is - the real offenders in this debate are the ones who are just too lazy and spineless to take a stand on either side. Chick-fil-A is on the the wrong side of history but denying opening a business to anyone based on religious conviction is equally wrong. We recently published a piece on our on-line magazine called "Buggery and the Bible" - if you Google it, it's the only one there (on Glittersnipe) - we believe it is a fair, personal - and Biblical - assessment of the current overall debate.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
  13. Rainer Braendlein

    Gayness is the sin of the people which have lost the control of their se-xuality in an extremly way. Once a man forsake his Creator, joined the powers of death, and degenerated to a sinner. Gayness is a sign of our degenerated, corrupted nature, which we have inherited from the man who did not stay in God's preserving presence.

    "Within days, elected officials in Chicago, Boston and New York were pledging to deny the company access to their cities."

    I guess we as Christians should not meddle in public affairs too much. If the temporal rulers want allow gay marriage, let them marry. The only thing what we can do is to tell the temporal rulers that God will not be very enthusiastic about gay marriage, and when God puts his food down in heaven it could cause an earthquake on earth.

    Gayness and gay marriage are a clear indicator for disbelief. Someone cannot be a gay and a Christian at the same time. That is impossible. Yet, one should be aware that there are many other sins which cause God's wrath: glutony, addiction for drugs and alcohol, greed for honor, power and riches, anger, hate, lie, envy, etc., etc.. If someone judges a gay, he should be aware that he himself may be judged by his own sins.

    At any rate we cannot allow gays to be Church members or to frequent church services, or to call themselves Christians. A man must decide, if he wants to be a sinner or a saint. Nobody can be a saint and a sinner at the same time. The Church is the "club" of the saints, but not the club of the sinners. Before a gay can become a church member, he has to repent.

    Concerning ordinary gays which we meet daily like neighbours, workmates, classmates, etc.:

    We as Christians have to treat them kindly. This is the clear will of God. Even if they are not willing to accept Jesus, we still shall treat them kindly. If we love the sinners, we tell them the gospel without words.

    Let us remember that Christ died for us, when we still were sinners, and some of us needed many decades to realize God's releasing Grace in Jesus Christ. As long as we live together on earth we must imply that everybody can still become a believer, even if he is about to die (that doesn't mean that you, dear reader, should not convert right now).

    Let us also keep in mind that our body is still sinful, and by any misfortune we can commit heavy sins too. Don't let us neglect the morning prayer where we invite Jesus to rule us, so that our sinful body may not prevail. Let us remember our King David who made some mistakes (notice: David's mistakes are no excuse for a perpetual sinning; David repented after a while, and his faith was restored; we will meet him in heaven).

    A Christian is only a sinner which is wrapped into God's releasing Grace or into Jesus. Only by God's Grace a Christian overcomes the sinfulness of his body. So, a Christian has no reason to become proud, because all glory belongs to God who releases us. Once, we will cast our crowns before him, if we have deserved a crown.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • GlittersnipeMagazine

      The Bible certainly back you up on that - it back you up on a lot of things, as a matter of fact. I think you'll enjoy this article: http://www.glittersnipe.com/2012/06/19/buggery-and-the-bible/

      July 31, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • phoodphite

      "Gayness and gay marriage are a clear indicator for disbelief. Someone cannot be a gay and a Christian at the same time. That is impossible."

      You sir are sadly mistaken, but thankfully part of a dying breed of extremist, fundamentalist Christians. I guess we can, for the most part, blame the self-proclaimed "apostle" Paul for this kind of thinking. The same kind of thinking that keeps women from being priests, the same kind of thinking that is against use of contraception and therefore responsible for countless disease-related deaths. The same kind of thinking that has kept priests from marriage and therefore has invited widespread s*e*xual abuse of minors. I myself am confident that Jesus would not be happy with the political wikedness that developed in the very beginnings of the "Christian" church. (And I don't buy into Paul having a validating vision of Jesus any more that I buy into things experienced by Joseph Smith for instance – let's see – the witness was his secretary – please.) At least with the gospels there is some consensus and that's where we are really just getting the message from Jesus to get along with one another.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • CosmicC

      What about the Christians who do not agree with your interpretation of the bible? What about the billions of non-Christians (okay, keeping it in the US, the tens of millions)?

      July 31, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • Julie

      really???? You know what God thinks, says and feels.....or are they words from a someone who doesn't understand or just simply hates others who are not like you. You did not choose to be straight, it was always who you are. Well gays are the same as you, they did not CHOOSE to be gay, that is who they are. I am straight and Christian, I believe in and have strong faith in God. I know God loves gays, only people spit venom and hateful remarks and then try to label it as God's will. Stop using the bible to fuel your own hatred.

      August 2, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
  14. Reality

    The owner of Chick-fil-A as does R. Albert Mohler Jr suffer from the Three B Syndrome, Bred, Born and Brainwashed in red-neck Christianity. Will sufferers therefore stop going to Christian churches because of this Syndrome? No, but we should try to cure all those who are suffering which effects about 30% of the human race.

    The Cure in less time than it takes to eat a chicken sandwich:

    SAVING 2 BILLION LOST CHRISTIANS FROM THE THREE B SYNDROME:

    THERE WERE NEVER ANY BODILY RESURRECTIONS AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY BODILY RESURRECTIONS I.E. NO EASTER, NO CHRISTIANITY.

    Added details available at no extra charge.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • Altered States

      "Added details available at no extra charge." That's because they ain't worth 2 cents!

      July 31, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Reality

      Actually, the following is "priceless":

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke records it. (Luke mentions it in his gospel and Acts, i.e. a single attestation and therefore historically untenable). The Ascension ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers.

      The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
      http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

      The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,

      p.4

      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      p.168. by Ted Peters:

      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      July 31, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
  15. Keith

    If Dan Cathy plays his cards, he'll own these cities and towns after he sues the crap out them for not giving him a permit because of his "ignorance". Last time I checked, being "ignorant" as defined by the ho.mo-facists wasn't illegal. Besides, Cathy is smart enough to realize that he answers to a Higher Power and will be rewarded eternity for contending for the faith.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Now Keith tell us what you would do if one of your children turned out to be gay. Outside of your buybull what is your personal issue with someone being gay? How do they directly or indirectly affect your personal life? If you are unable to answer that, then you have no right to an opinion on the matter and are quite simply a bigot using their belief wrongfully to deny other people equal rights. Science has stated that being gay is natural and those studies are dated within the last decade...your book is dated 2000 years ago....SCIENCE WINS!!!

      July 31, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  16. Name*gatorrat

    I support Chick Fil A because I support freedom of speech. I do have to ask how many people supporting Chick Fil A are viewing this thread on their gay friendly Iphone or iPad? Ever shopped at Amazon? Ate Ben & Jerry's? It is just a chicken joint. I bet the owner of Chick Fil A himself uses an iPad. Don't get me wrong, I will be ordering my office Chick Fil A sandwiches tomorrow as boycotting American businesses in this economy is brainless.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • CosmicC

      iPhones and iPads are gay-friendly? Please, tell us how. This should be good.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
  17. Jeremy

    If you don't want to be discriminated against, perhaps you shouldn't promote discriminatory views...food for thought.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • indogwetrust

      Amen

      July 31, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • Brian M.

      Strong convictions are not discrimination or hate. Just because I believe drunkenness or adultery is a sin does that mean I hate those who drink or cheat on their spouses? No. Get real and stop overeacting people.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Nourishment

      Speaking of food, I'm hungry for some Chick-Fil-A!

      July 31, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
  18. kindless

    This is my experience. Thank you.

    Atheism is good for children and all living things.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Coward Hunter

      Atheists are liar and thieves as they steal others IDs, use others as foot soldiers to do their dirty deeds because they are cowards. All cowards as they shouted from the crowd to crucify Jesus.

      They need to stop worshiping Satan.

      John 3:1-21

      July 31, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Brian M.

      Sure, just look at Russia to see how good atheism is for people. There is no love for your fellow neighbor in atheism–it just leads to selfishness.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • CosmicC

      @Coward Hunter – Just a quick logic check – to worship satan you need to believe satan and god exist. Atheists deny the existence of god and so cannot worship satan.

      @ Brian M. – First, you need to check out secular humanism. People should not need either a fear of punishment or a promise of reward to do the right thing. Second, I can find far more attrocities carried out in the name of religion than you can find that explicitly were driven by atheism.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • Dan

      @CosmicC

      Why even bother responding to Coward Hunter? Didn't he/she reveal all you needed to know with that post?

      July 31, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
  19. ReligiousPoopShoot.com

    Any religion based on Jesus Christ is gonna lick balls, because Jesus does in fact lick balls.
    Bob

    Fuk Jesus and Mohammed, fuk them up their stupid as.ses.
    LinCA

    Jesus and Mohammed are one-note jokes that only retards follow. They’re fuking clown shoes. If they were real I’d beat the sh.it out of them for being so stupid.
    rAmen

    July 31, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Jesus and Mohammed

      All you motherfukers are gonna pay! You are the ones who are the ball-lickers! We’re gonna fuk your mothers while you watch and cry like little whiney bi.tches. We’re gonna make you eat our sh.it, then sh.it out our sh.it and then eat your sh.it that’s made up of our sh.it that we made you eat!

      July 31, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • kindless

      Please don't refer to retards that way. Thank you.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • ReligiousPoopShoot.com

      Hello kindless!

      Thank you for your comments!

      July 31, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
  20. Jay

    “We are a city that believes our diversity is our greatest strength, and we will fight anything and anyone that runs counter to that.”

    Inclusion by exclusion.... Sounds like discrimination to me. Think like me or get out. Live my principles or youre not welcome? Two sides with the same argument...... This thing is going to boil over.....

    July 31, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Aerocog

      They call for diversity, so wouldn't that include having a large range of political views ranging from support or opposition of not only gay-marriage but other view points as well. He's the guy who isn't promoting strength through diversity.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
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