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August 3rd, 2012
11:54 AM ET

Chicken, with a side of politics

By Emanuella Grinberg, CNN

Atlanta (CNN) - Call it a crisis of faith.

A co-worker and I walked into the office break room Wednesday, national Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, to find a dozen or so foil-wrapped sandwiches beckoning us from the counter. This being Atlanta, home of Chick-fil-A, we recognized them immediately, and a closer look at the puck-sized packages bearing the iconic scribbled red logo confirmed our suspicions - and deepened our paranoia.

"Is this a trick?" my co-worker asked as he stood frozen in front of the counter. "Will someone judge me if they see me eating one?"

We had no idea where they had come from and still don't, but our break room is often the dumping ground of leftovers from business meetings where food is served. I also froze in silence because I knew that the answer was yes, some would judge him, at least for the time being, while the company's stance on same-sex marriage is in the spotlight, sparking impassioned op-eds and fiery debate on cable news networks and Facebook Walls across the country.

Ever since Truett Cathy opened the first Chick-fil-A Restaurant at a mall in suburban Atlanta in 1967, the company has made no secret of its dedication to Christian values. Its corporate purpose is to "glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us" and "to have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A." All of its locations are closed on Sunday.

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  1. tuvia

    SHALOM

    B"H
    MEDIA RELEASE: JERUSALEM, ISRAEL

    The Promised Land given to our forefathers Abraham Isaac and Jacob and is given to us, their seed, as an everlasting Inheritance.
    the Promised Land given to our forefathers Abraham Isaac and Jacob

    September 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • old ben

      This is bull sh it. Also this Jonathan Pollard is a highly unstable traitor. Keep him where he is.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
  2. Chick-a-dee

    Catechism of the Catholic Church

    2357 H o n o $ e x u a l i t y refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant $ e x u a l attraction toward persons of the same $ e x. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents h o n o $ e x u a l acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that "h o n o $ e x u a l acts are intrinsically disordered."141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the $ e x u a l act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and $ e x u a l complementarity. Under no c i r c u m s t a n c e s can they be approved.

    2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated h o n o $ e x u a l tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their h o n o $ e x u a l condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

    2359 H o n o $ e x u a l persons are called to c h a s t i t y. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

    August 6, 2012 at 9:16 am |
  3. Chick-a-dee

    @ oralisM & all christians: Please stop. Continuing to engage those who self identify as atheists is certainly not doing anything to convert any of them...at least not here in this forum. In fact, it looks like you are encouraging them to blaspheme & spew negative thoughts which is exactly the opposite of your objective. May I suggest simply adding this to your morning prayers each day and perhaps meditating for someone in particular. God is better able to soften hearts than any of we are. The most productive thing you can do is to simply love them as they are.

    Prayer for the Conversion of Unbelievers
    by St. Francis Xavier

    O God, the everlasting Creator of all things,
    remember that the souls of unbelievers were made by Thee
    and formed in Thine own image and likeness.
    Remember that Jesus, Thy Son, endured a most bitter
    death for their salvation. Permit not, I beseech Thee, O Lord,
    that Thy Son should be any longer despised by unbelievers,
    but do Thou graciously accept the prayers of holy men and
    of the Church, the Spouse of Thy most holy Son, and be
    mindful of Thy mercy. Forget their idolatry and unbelief,
    and grant that they too may some day know Him Thou
    hast sent, even the Lord Jesus Christ, who is our
    Salvation, our Life and Resurrection, by whom we have
    been saved and delivered, to whom be glory for
    endless ages. Amen.

    August 6, 2012 at 7:47 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      No point in trying to convert us!! If you manage to convert an Atheist, they were never a strong Atheist to begin with. Most of us suffered from the same virus you are inflicted with and we were able to come away unscathed and are living happy, content, fulfilling, non-gullible lives. It is your mental illness, not ours and we choose to live in the 21st century...you have chosen to live in the 1st century...time to move to the present! We are not suffering from the delusions and fear that religion inflicts.

      August 6, 2012 at 7:52 am |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things

    August 4, 2012 at 6:07 am |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      Atheism is fabulous for kids and everyone! Diseases have trouble thriving with atheism.
      Atheism frees up a lot of time for productivity and contribution.
      This is my testament. It Is written. Thank you.

      August 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
    • Prayer changes things

      Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things. Proof provided by response above

      August 4, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Prayer changes things: so praying over dying children is better than getting them needed medical attention? You're clearly delusional and in need of professional help. Please don't ever breed!

      August 4, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      Did you hear the one about the Canadian bully that minded its own F'n business?

      August 4, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      You won't it thinks that someone gives a sh it for its half ass opinion

      August 4, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      "Proof provided by response above". lol. More christarded hard-of-thinking rationalization.

      August 4, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      @Athiesm, et al.

      What brought you to your belief in God and religion?

      August 4, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • another repentant sinner

      God Himself.

      August 5, 2012 at 7:15 am |
    • Beth

      Scientists discovered that the frontal lobe of the atheists is not utilized making atheists not working on all cylinders.

      August 5, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      Beth, please provide a reference to such a study or admit you are just another lying believer.

      August 5, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!#

      August 6, 2012 at 11:39 am |
  5. AverageJoe76

    The rules are: believe or die. No third option.
    If you beloved in spirits, you may believe in ghosts, Why aren't they in heaven or the other place?

    August 3, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      I'm afraid there are some spirits I sometimes believe in AverageJoe76:

      August 4, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      3 oz. 1800 Anejo Tequila with two packets of true lime, pinch of sea salt, thimbleful of water, and 1/2 oz Agavero orange liqueur fully chilled. (I first put the true lime, water and salt in separate mug in microwave for 10 seconds and then add to ice shaker along with the liquors.)

      August 4, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      and secondly (actually my favorite),

      August 4, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      a true manhattan made with 3 oz. bulleit rye with 3/4 oz. sweet vermouth, bitters and these wonderful Tillen farms maraschino

      August 4, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      cherries (with some of the juice), a thimbleful of water slowy swirled with ice till fully chilled (but served in martini glass without the ice). the rye really makes the difference over say a canadian club.

      August 4, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      lol. all that because the wordpress didn't like the word t*e*a*s*p*o*o*n (instead of what I wound up using – "some")

      August 4, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • billdeacons

      Some people think that the reason alcohol is called spirits is that folks who imbibe are seeking that interior spiritual connection that alcohol imitates. Hope you can learn to find it outside of inebriation.

      August 4, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      billdeacons replied:

      "Some people think that the reason alcohol is called spirits is that folks who imbibe are seeking that interior spiritual connection that alcohol imitates. Hope you can learn to find it outside of inebriation."

      I can assure you I am not looking for any kind of "interior spiritual connection". And if I were looking to get inebriated, I would certainly be using much cheaper liquor. lol.

      August 5, 2012 at 12:47 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      No you're just looking to get drunk. But do you ever consider why you want to alter your state of mind?

      August 6, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  6. AverageJoe76

    To be able to think freely, and speak freely is a great human right. Religion is spiritual communism.

    August 3, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
    • .

      You're a joke speaking about freedom of speech on this site when you don't take a stand when Christian IDs are stolen by you atheists.

      August 3, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
  7. 1 Interpretations 6:14-18

    And Jesus looked upon them and He spoke (14). "Take these My teachings and go forth. Use these My words to rationalize whatever fears and prejudices reside in your hearts (15), find thee the ways to twist them so that they may serve to excuse oppression, colonization, genocide, inquisition, and hate and that ye may slay those who are different while accepting no personal responsibility for your acts (16), but yea most importantly do these things with the false humility and smug self-satisfaction of insisting that you know the will of God better than all others and that you will be blessed for eternity while enjoying the slow everlasting torture of anyone who disagrees with your self-righteousness (17). For this is humility and love (18)."

    August 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Brilliant! And apparently the Bible that most Christians actually read...

      August 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • AverageJoe76

      Can I get an Amen?

      August 3, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • .

      You lying atheists cause all the wars in this world, then you hide and cry that you're the victims. You've never been victimized in your lives, but, you cry foul so know one pays attention to your beasts. Just make another movie to spread your lies.

      August 3, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      dot (can we call you dottie?) wrote "You lying atheists cause all the wars in this world". really? i suggest you study some history. You are sadly mistaken. And I suppose atheists were responsible for the various Inquisitions in your book as well? Tard.

      August 4, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
  8. oralisM

    It may take time, and a lot of effort, but it's worth it. Let's work together to build a Christian America, fully conforming to God's will. Let's do it for the children, even William Demuth's. No one is excluded from God's grace.

    August 3, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • midwest rail

      So you want a theocracy....why do you hate the Const-itution ?

      August 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • William Demuth

      I have already trained my kids to crucify.

      I'll bet I have more nails than you have saviors!

      August 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • William Demuth

      As we members of the original 13 colonies have demonstrated, we are QUITE capable of marching south to burn the hearts of the southern red neck societies to the ground.

      And as far as this Yankee is concerned, I am itching to do it again

      August 3, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • oralisM

      You mean the Constitution? What suggests that I hate it?

      August 3, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • oralisM

      My ancestors went South to burn and pillage too William. We have something in common.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • toad

      You teach children to crucify, William Demuth? Cool. You're still atheist filth.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Burn and pillage?

      Seems we freed a few Muslims you guys had kidnapped and made into slaves.

      If that meant a few Baptist churches got smoked so be it.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • Which God??

      So, Oral (ism), are you spitter as well as anutter?

      August 3, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • William Demuth

      toad

      We, as the Romans, only reserve that one for particularly annoying Christians.

      For the rest of them, we usually just lay them off and foreclose on their houses.

      Perhpas a bit more reading of the Mortgages, and a little less Bible next time?

      Or is it just your preference to live in squalor?

      August 3, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • oralisM

      Actually, I'm from Maine. Originally from New Brunswick. Anyway, there are places in the world where real slavers are going about enslaving people. Perhaps you should heed the call and go free some slaves.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • oralisM

      Let's be straight about this, William Demuth. Christ will establish his kingdom. Here and elsewhere. Best we Americans follow him than do the impossible and try to go our own way. That will only lead to disaster. Let's imagine you, William Demuth, trying to stop a train by straight-arming it. That's pretty much your predicament.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>>"Let's work together to build a Christian America,"

      Which denomination of Christianity are you speaking of or do you believe that folks will drop hundreds of years of in-fighting within the Christian faith to adopt a lone interpretation of Christianity?

      Are you also going to do this uniting with the tens of thousands of Gay and Lesbian Christians?

      August 3, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • William Demuth

      So now I am supposed to fear your Jeebus?

      3000 gods before him have fought the collective minds if rational men.

      We non theists have confronted and defeated far strong Gods and churches than yours

      And just as the first 3000 have been cast aside, so shall he.

      He will be lucky to have a bit part in Jersey Shore soon enough.

      Perhaps we might name an SUV after Jeebus, or give him a comic book like we have with the older Gods, but slowly and irreversibly, people will begin to admit they don't believe.

      Then you God goes from being God, to god, to fable and finally to myth.

      You can rail against it, as they all did, but the clock is ticking. Muhammed is the ascendent fable of the month, and Jeebus show is getting dropped by cable.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • sam

      No thanks. I don't approve of your 'lifestyle', oralisM.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • oralisM

      Mark, everyone -gay, lesbian, straight – who acknowledges Christ, the only begotten son of God, as Lord and Savior can work together under God's will and purpose to make America the kind of place it ought to be.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • oralisM

      Fear Jesus, William Demuth? Well that's your problem if you do. I'd suggest you get out of the way of the train. That much is just prudent.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @oralisM

      If you want a theocracy, this is not the place for you. You're immoral religion of death and control will never overcome rational thought.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • sam

      oralisM is too lock-step to take seriously. I know there are kool-aid drinkers out there like this, but this one's too Poe to believe.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Huebert

      How about we work together to make america a place that embraces science and rational thinking, and rejects unsupported supersti.tion.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • William Demuth

      oralisM

      The only "train" in Christianity is the one your preachers throw on little boys.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaiiguest
      To call Christianity an immoral religion of death and control is not rational. How about you begin with a rational approach?

      August 3, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      Is there any point in this conversation? It will go the same way it always does. I will bring up doctrines that you will twist into knots worthy of a pair of earphones in a pocket for days in order to justify it to yourself. We go through this everytime, and is completely useless.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
    • BU2B

      Let's be straight about this, oralisM. Christ is dead, has been for over 2,000 years, and is not coming back. It's time to move on.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • fred

      Hubert
      I agree with you as science and the Bible do not conflict rather complement each other. The rational man understands the need for both. It is irrational to ignore either one.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • oralisM

      Huebert, science and rational thinking are splendid tools, but why embrace them? Love and grace come from God, not tools.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      That's the biggest difference between you and me fred. I'm willing to follow the evidence, the logic, or see things as they are presented, while you feel the need to justify everything to fit within your narrow woldview.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • oralisM

      We probably agree on something hawaiiguest. Your life, as you hope to live it, will end in death.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • BU2B

      fred, a rational person has absolutely no need for the babble, sorry. A 2,000 year old book written by MEN who thought the earth was the flat center of the universe is not necessary. Nothing more than a fiction novel.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @oralisM

      Eery life ends with death.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • Huebert

      I said reject unfounded supersti.tion. Your god is included in that group, along with every other god from every other culture.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • oralisM

      Do you know my God, Huebert?

      Oh, there are several ways to do it, but you can type supersttion.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • oralisM

      Sorry, superstition.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaiiguest
      When you speak of the God of Abraham and the Bible which is our translated docu-ment of the writings from those who knew “their God” it is irrational to have an opinion that is completely contrary to what these people knew. Take the spiritual god of healing from the American Indian that is believed to be a healer. You cannot rationally just come out and say this god is evil because it allowed the American Indian to get small pox. That is not their spiritual god of healing. Your bias has twisted rational thought which can conclude the spiritual god of healing does not exist but you cannot rationally claim that god is evil. If you claim that is just a god created by the American Indian or the God of Abraham is just a god created by the Hebrews that is rational. You might just a well claim the Indian Spirit god is not an Eagle but a car tire and be just as rational as calling the most Holy of the Hebrews evil.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      They made claims, that's it. The ancient greeks "knew" their gods, Hindus "know" their gods, Buddhists "know" Nirvana is attainable. Why do all these people "know"? Because they just accept ancient writings with no evidence. I don't care what assertions youmake any more fred. Until you can actually provide evidence for any of it, all it is is the same old shit. You will continue to repeat it over and over and over, thinking that the more you say it, the more true it will be.
      You have never had rational arguments, and as far as I can see, you never will fred.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Huebert

      @oralis

      Did you miss the part where I said all gods are unfounded superst.ition

      And I can't type that word because i don't have a word press account, and CNN's nanny word filter will not all the o so naughty "ti.t" to appear on this board.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • fred

      BU2B
      The spiritual condition of man has not changed in 6,000 years and is just as relevant as ever. As to flat earth that was never the representation of the Bible. In case you are interested the Hebrew word for circle was not a two dimensional object rather it related to the word used in the wedding dance which was a circle dance that round in all directions (i.e. sphere).
      You are correct in one thing they did get that wrong as the earth is an oblate spheroid …………….silly sheepherders should have known that!

      August 3, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • ChristardMingle.com

      Everyone is excluded from god's grace.

      August 3, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      Are you seriously trying to pass off a word describing a particular dance as "spherical"? I guess those anti-gravity belts allowed them to dance in a spherical shape back then. Why couldn't those plans have survived until today damnit?

      August 3, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Deck-a-dent

      hawaiiguest & fred,

      Human sphere dance sounds sorta like an o.rgy, where folks all roll up together into a ball or something...

      August 3, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    • Answer

      All you religious tools – go and hug your bible – your comfort within those delusions are coming to an end. Fear it or cast more of your hate among society like you always do to protest.

      August 3, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaiiguest
      The Hebrew word when Isaiah described the Lord looking down on the earth was translated as “circle”. The exact translation was that circle tradition had for the wedding dance. That circle dance was an all encompassing sphere that surrounded the existence of the new married couple. This is not stretching things it is what it is. I suppose the original translators could have put a footnote on the page but that is not necessary. You would not believe in the Bible if it opened up with “in the beginning God created an oblate spheroid for man”.
      Even if you were to believe in the Bible because science could prove snakes talk and the dimensions of the ark match the first cellulose structure that held the original DNA strand it would be of no value. Your belief would be that of a mathematician in formula (i.e. head knowledge) lacking the power of the Holy Spirit. It is by faith you are saved not scientific knowledge

      August 3, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • fred

      Answer
      How is my comfort in God (real or delusionary) coming to an end?
      Regardless of what your opinion or faith is Gods plan continues to advance.

      August 3, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      Faith is useless. Every religion claims truth through faith, and I take them just as seriously as I take you fred. Tell me, did the Hebrews have a word for apple? Orange? How about a ball? Those would be closer to the actual shape of the earth than "circle of dancing people" (which by the way, is still not a sphere).

      August 3, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaiiguest
      Yes it is a sphere. The wedding dance is not the two dimensions on the floor as that is symbolic. Take the circle and spin it in all directions from the center and you have your sphere.
      You must agree we are going in circles. The Bible does not hinge on this one point and there are other scholars that believe Isaiah meant to say something else. Faith does not hinge on scientific evidence or choice of Hebrew vs. Greek translation. You have reasons other than objective scientific evidence in your rejection of God. Discover those reasons and you will see the wall the exists between you and God.

      August 3, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      I'm going to say this once, calmly.

      Don't you dare think you know anything about what I think, or my reasons for not believing in god. You do not know me, my life, or anything else except what I put up here.

      August 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      I try to stay calm as much as possible through all of your twisting, and justifications, but I will not stay calm when you attempt to flat out assume what I think. Do you understand me?

      August 3, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • fred

      hawaiiguest
      Sorry, not an assumption. Passion does not flow from fact alone but fact tied with emotion. I remain passionate about Jesus not because of facts alone related to my conversion but the emotion tied to the experience with God.
      One cannot passionately defend the unreasonable position that God is evil based on misunderstanding of the Hebrew God from simply the words in the Bible. That defense position has an anchor. I make no assumptions of what that anchor is only that one exists.

      August 3, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      I could care less whether you think that I have some kind of emotional reason to not believe. Perhaps you should ask instead of assuming like you did once again.

      Misinterpretation according to you and everyone with a hat in the ring to keep it "nice". Sorry, but truth is not subject to "oh you need to read it my way and all these thousands of other ways are wrong. Why? Because I say so".

      August 3, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • Answer

      @fred

      What ... what did want to say/imply dimwit? Haven't committed suicide yet? Well better next day.

      August 4, 2012 at 12:31 am |
    • William Demuth

      Only courageous Christians fought that war. The rest of us atheists cowards hid in bushes. We start the wars, we make sure others fight it.

      August 4, 2012 at 1:28 am |
    • William Demuth

      We're also ushering in the New World Order, where we will lie and cheat every nation. Then when we stole everyone's money and all the countries finally go belly up for not throwing our butts out, our father satan comes to the world to meet all you people, sit on Jesus' throne and we will all kiss his butt, because, that's who we are.

      August 4, 2012 at 1:41 am |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      You spew so much christardation that I don't even know where to begin. But, thankfully to posters like William Demuth, I don't even need to – his words already have all the fish in my fish tank swimming in the same direction.

      August 4, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
  9. just sayin

    Christians have always been at the front fighting freedom and liberty for those different than them. Christians are the ones that point the finger at the few and blame the few for their problems. #1 greatest threat to our liberties and freedom is from Christians and their ignorance.

    August 3, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • fred

      Ok, now you really could not possibly believe what you just said.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • oralisM

      What a subversive thing to "just say". You're trying to undermine the American way of life, aren't you?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • .

      Mel Gibson was right about these atheists.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • sam

      The American way of life is not just christianity. And it never will be.

      Oh, and also – Mel Gibson is a stunningly typical catholic, yes?

      August 3, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • just sayin

      America is a Christian land formed by Christians for Christians. God bless

      August 3, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • just sayin

      Or so my pants told me. The voice...comes from my pants.

      August 3, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
    • truth be told

      It does not take long for an atheist or a qu eer to degenerate from name theft to moral filth does it.

      August 3, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      "#1 greatest threat to our liberties and freedom is from Christians and their ignorance." Very true, except that it's not just ignorance, it's a form of retardation.

      August 4, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
  10. Bootyfunk

    "Is this a trick?" my co-worker asked as he stood frozen in front of the counter. "Will someone judge me if they see me eating one?"

    i will. this company financially supports organizations that enforce hatred and bigotry. if you eat there, part of your money goes toward that campaign of prejudice. effectively, you are giving money toward keeping g.ays from marrying. so yes, i will judge you. i will judge you as the ignorant supporter of prejudice that you are. if you supported an organization that tried to protect rapists, i'd also judge you. see how that works?

    August 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • William Demuth

      What about the church itself?

      Preachers, Priests and similar profession were where men who didn’t covet women were sent to for almost a century.

      The RCC in the northeast knowingly accepted THOUSANS of men into its ranks that they knew had "non-hetro" orientation, because they were having serious issues recruiting.

      While many of the remaining recruits remain closeted, things like AIDS infection rates and assault claims indicate that deviance remain rampant in those professions.

      I would anyone doubting this to speak to your elders. Anyone in their 70’s will laugh at you if you are ignorant of it

      This of course is the terrifying thing, because these gay priests still support an infrastructure that suppresses their brethren

      August 3, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • .

      Are you atheists seriously foolish or are you just pretending to be naive? The Pharisees were the priest and rabbis in Biblical times and hated when Jesus Christ lived with man. Jesus Christ is truth and these men were jealous and hateful and did not want to relinquish their hold on the people in the land with their man made teachings.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • William Demuth

      .

      You bable on about Pharasies in the 21st century, yet you STILL deny both your beloved savior was gay?

      If you have actually read the book on deeper than a fourth grade level you KNOW I am correct.

      Offer one specific instance to even suggest otherwise?

      I bet you even think his mother was a virgin!

      Where do they breed such stupidity? Have you not a single rational brain cell left?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      jesus supported slavery. why would i listen to someone so callous?

      Luke 12:37-38 (New American Standard Bible)
      37 "Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will gird himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and will come up and wait on them.
      38 "Whether he comes in the second watch, or even in the third, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves.”

      August 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • ,

      William Demuth – how can you read anything in depth when you are so superficial and shallow?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • William Demuth

      .

      Let me guess, you have an inferiority complex just because your Mother is also your Sister?

      Don't sweat it, it is the Christian way

      August 3, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Cletus Spuckler

      Bootyfunk~ So, by using your logic in the original post, I say if you do not attend the kiss protest, then you by all means support Chick-Fil-A. See how stupid that sounds.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • William Demuth

      I'm gay, but only gays like Anderson Cooper can announce that he's free to date again because his bf dumped him

      August 4, 2012 at 1:47 am |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      Be careful, William, in replies, to reference the b s that the tards are sprewing when they cowardly only using a dot or comma, etc. (Some might get confused and think that all your replies are to Bootyfunk.) I've started to copy and paste at least some of the junk they write to make it clear what I am responding to.

      August 4, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • truth be told

      It is always best to post a Truth before your bull sh it lie, that way honest people know the difference a lot faster.

      August 4, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
  11. BoldGeorge

    [Wade Pierson said. "As a born-again gay Christian, it saddens me to see Christians feeding into politics.]

    Wow! This is a first. A born-again gay Christian is an uber-misnomer. That's like saying, "I'm a 100% mixed black/white man." Or, "I'm a full-blooded South American Asian man."

    Either you are a born-again Christian or you are gay. You cannot ever be a believer with unbelief.

    August 3, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      I have to agree with you here BG. It's the same as being a gay republican. How can you side with the people that dont want you to exist or have basic freedoms?

      August 3, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • God

      Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. BoldGeorge is not in charge of making up definitions for the universe. There are millions of gay Christians, just as there are 33,000 sects of Christians. Just as BG, each of the sects say they have *the* truth. After one hears the 32,999 th say they have *the* truth, one might just start to wonder, just a teensy weensy. On the other hand, if one is as unobservant a BG, one whistles in the wind.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Or it's like being a freedom loving Democrat. How could you possibly side with a party that wants to control everything in your life?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • sally

      But you can be a divorcee and a Christian? An adultorer and a Christian? A pedophile priest? Someone who lies occasionally? YOU never lie, ever?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      yes, as opposed to the republicans that want to regulate who you can marry, p.ornography, strip clubs, adult stores, alcohol consumption, drugs, abortion, nudity, music, movies, tv, art, speech, etc.

      great analogy.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I agree Bootfunk, but don't think for one second that the Democrats aren't as totalitarian as the Republicans, they just exert it in different ways.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      examples?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • J.W

      So you can't be a part of a group if you disagree on even one issue? That is stupid.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Taxes, gun control, hate speech and inflammatory speech laws, healthcare mandates, affirmative action, enviro-Naziism.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Huebert

      @Rational Libertarian

      I have a question for you, do you think that their is such a thing as reasonable gun control, or limits on gun ownership?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Not with small arms. Explosive weaponry regulations should be stringent.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • Chic-A-Hate

      Sorry BoldGeorge but you are incorrect and of no authority to declare a person christian or not a christian.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      "Taxes, gun control, hate speech and inflammatory speech laws, healthcare mandates, affirmative action, enviro-Naziism."

      taxes? silly. how would potholes in the street get fixed without taxes? how do you pay police officers and firefighters?
      gun control? at some point you agree, don't you? think people should be able to purchase grenades? rocket launchers?
      hate speech and inflammatory speech laws? - need a more specific example.
      health care mandate - i agree with you here. i also agree with the mandate. it's a step toward socialized medicine, which would be great.
      affirmative action - without it, prejudice white people would never have given minorities a chance.
      enviro-nazism - you're against laws that keep poisons out of the environment and people? don't believe in global warming? this is EXACTLY what the gov't should be regulating.

      compare the issues that republicans back and the issues that democrats back. republicans are almost always on the wrong side of the fence.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      "Not with small arms. Explosive weaponry regulations should be stringent."
      sounds like you are against freedom. the 2nd amendment doesn't say you have a right to "guns". it says "arms". why wouldn't a grenade be considered arms? according to the 2nd amendment, why shouldn't i be able to own a grenade?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • Huebert

      What is the definition of small arms, does that include a .50 caliber rifle or a light machine gun? I promise that i'm not trying to be obtuse, I myself am undecided on this issue.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      You've just confirmed the liberal hypocrisy. The word 'liberal' really needs to be taken back by libertarians. Liberal means free, and you've proven that you're against freedom.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I said stringent, as in stringent background checks, I didn't say you can't have access.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Yes Huebert, I'd consider those small arms. OK, I've gotta do some work.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      sounds like you don't support complete freedom either?

      you just said you would restrict people buying explosives. why? what if i want to own a grenade? why can't i? why are you telling me what i can and can't own?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • BigFatLie

      global warming is a big fat lie. All perpetrated by Al Gore and other retired politicians to make a buck off of taxes that will be tied to that lie.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • Primewonk

      If global warming is a big fat lie, you should have no trouble posting the citations to the peer-reviewed scientific research showing this.

      August 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22040-tree-rings-suggest-roman-world-was-warmer-than-thought.html

      This took four seconds to find. Do your own homework.

      August 3, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Chick-a-dee

      @ BoldGeorge et al:
      NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! You absolutely CAN be both gay and christian. Being gay is not a sin. ACTING on that impulse is, just like ACTING on straight impulses unless you are with your spouse and the act is open to procreation. And surprise, surprise....All Catholics must believe the doctrine of the church with states (with regard to gays) "They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided."

      August 6, 2012 at 8:30 am |
  12. Rundvelt

    Having an opinion on someone based on what sandwich they eat is pretty low on the "intelligent thought" meter. If someone was to judge me based on what sandwich I eat, I'd realize that their opinion isn't worth 2 seconds of my time.

    August 3, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      If I see someone eating a ham sandwich, I can pretty accurately judge that they're not Jewish or Muslim.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      you obviously don't realize the power of the dollar. it's the only language a business understands. giving money to an organization that supports hate because you like their product is a lazy form of bigotry. i bet if they were financially against something that meant something to you, you'd change your tune. but since it doesn't affect you, who cares, right?

      August 3, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • ME II

      Agreed. Now get me my dolphin club sandwich.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  13. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    August 3, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      August 3, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      actions cause change; prayer wastes valuable time.

      August 3, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • just sayin

      A good man prays , a great man acts on prayer. God bless

      August 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm |

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