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Pope's butler leaked papers to shock 'corrupt' Church, prosecutor says
August 13th, 2012
05:48 AM ET

Pope's butler leaked papers to shock 'corrupt' Church, prosecutor says

By Richard Allen Greene and Hada Messia, CNN

Pope Benedict XVI's butler will be tried on an aggravated theft charge over the leaking of hundreds of secret papers from the pope's personal apartment to an Italian journalist, a Vatican spokesman said Monday.

The butler, Paolo Gabriele, acted out of a desire to combat "evil and corruption everywhere in the Church," according to a prosecutor in the case.

"I was certain that a shock ... would have been healthy to bring the church back onto the right track," the prosecutor, Nicola Piccardi, wrote in a report released Monday by the Vatican.

A second man, Vatican IT expert Claudio Sciarpelletti, will be charged with aiding Gabriele, according to the Rev. Federico Lombardi, a Vatican spokesman.

Sciarpelletti is not suspected of conspiring with Gabriele, merely assisting him, and is not under arrest, Lombardi said.

The investigation is continuing, said Lombardi, raising the possibility of more arrests.

The trials are not expected to start before September 20, Lombardi said.

Gabriele, one of the pope's closest personal assistants, was arrested in May on suspicion of passing the papers to an Italian journalist. He faces the possibility of one to six years behind bars, Lombardi said.

The scandal has rocked the Catholic Church hierarchy and could even affect who becomes the next pope.

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It could be an effort to unseat Benedict's secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who will run the conclave to choose the next pope if he is in office when Benedict dies, according to the Rev. Thomas Reese, author of "Inside the Vatican."

Gabriele was held in a special Vatican cell for about a month and a half before being released to house arrest in July.

The Vatican said Gabriele cooperated with investigators and admits leaking the papers, which consisted of faxes, letters and memos, including some from a high-ranking church official expressing concerns about corruption within the Vatican.

The arrest followed a top-level Vatican investigation into how the private documents appeared in the best-selling book "Sua Santita" ("His Holiness") by Italian journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi.

The Vatican called the publication of his book "criminal" when it was released in Italian.

Copies of some documents used in the book were found in the butler's apartment, according to the judge's report released Monday.

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Gabriele was not paid for handing over the papers, according to the judge, Piero Antonio Bonnet.

Cardinal Julian Herranz got a "pontifical mandate" in April to uncover the source of hundreds of personal letters and confidential documents that made their way to Nuzzi.

Nuzzi would not confirm the identity of his sources, but he told CNN that his primary source - whom he referred to as "Maria" in his book - "risked life and limb" if ever found out.

The source worked inside the Vatican, according to Nuzzi, who refused to give other details such as the source's gender, age and if he or she was clergy.

Nuzzi's book highlights an internal power struggle within the Vatican through numerous documents, including faxes, personal letters and inter-Vatican memos. He told CNN that he received the documents during a year of private meetings in secret locations.

The Vatican has not denied the authenticity of the documents but instead says the breach of privacy is a criminal act.

–Journalist Barbie Nadeau in Rome contributed to this report.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Belief • Catholic Church • Pope Benedict XVI • Scandal • Vatican

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  1. Kindness

    Kindness
    This is my experience... Thank you.

    MY personal testimony.
    A thought to consider without an ego response

    I Accepted Jesus christ as my lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners. Even once we are saved by christs merciful grace we will still experience adversity to mold us to adhering to the truth.
    We will slip... But not fall of the ship ...carrying us onward to perfection in christs grace.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from some other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith ....above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read romans or corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are by faith above reason in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    Romans 10:9

    "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

    Last eve I passed beside a blacksmith’s door,
    And heard the anvil ring the vesper chime;
    The, looking in, I saw upon the floor
    Old hammers, worn with beating years of time.
    “How many anvils have you had,” said I,
    “To wear and batter all these hammers so?”
    “Just one,” said he, and then with twinkling eye,
    “The anvil wears the hammers out, you know.”
    And so, thought I, the anvil of God’s Word,
    For ages skeptic blows have beat upon;
    Yet, though the noise of falling blows was heard,
    The anvil is unharmed – the hammers gone.

    Truth.. Is exclusive

    October 15, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • .

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      "pervert alert"

      This troll is not a christian..

      October 15, 2012 at 11:52 am |
  2. Jose

    I am a Christian. I am however non-denominational for many reasons. And this whole thing with the Vatican City and the Catholics are exact reasons why I am non-denominational. In the New Testament, Jesus Christ, told his students to never call any other man (regarding the church leaders) the Father because the true Father is the one and only Father from above. God himself. And you should not call any other man (regarding the church leaders) the Teacher besides the Messiah. Jesus said all of this after the High Priest and Rabbis of the Synagogue tried to come into the temple where Jesus Christ was and they tried to question Jesus in front of everyone. They were very proud of themselves if you know what I mean? Which made Jesus tell his student, never call another man the Father because the true Father is the Father from above. So I ask, why do Catholics call Priest Father? This and a lot of other reasons is why I do not consider myself Catholic. But I am a Christian and yes we are all the same and all brother's but if you were to ask a Catholic are you Christian most of them would say no I am a Catholic. Now why is that? Gandhi once said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” And I agree with Gandhi on this. Because us Christians today are so divided and different and always want to be better than other fellow Christians. It's sad. It really is.

    October 6, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • lea Pedrosa Tabbzz

      I agree with you buddy,, i am on the side of Gabriele ...he should be given another chance not to be imprisoned that long because though the action is mistakenly wrong but I believe it will yield good result..if I am in his case and i can have access on it,, I would do the same no matter what it takes,,corruption is corruption it should be curtailed and for God sake please if you considered it a house of the Lord please do what is right...God bless you Gabriele...

      October 7, 2012 at 6:18 am |
  3. Kafshiel

    I'm not an Atheist! Although i believe in the Quantum Mechanics i currently study both Theories: The M theory, recently scoring as evidence of Higgs Boson was discovered, and The String Theory But even the String Theory requires an Explanatory Equation Field to say: why Gravity has two Poles? Space can expand or contract inside of a Warp Bubble This means Gravity behaves as a Magnetic Field only with higher Energies! The secret is: Gravity behaves as a Magnetic Field but instead of a Magnetic Field it behaves as an Energy Field way much more powerfu than Magnetism If we could apply the Maxwell Equations to Gravity we'd have a Beautiful Unified Set of Equations! Mathematics will always be the Ultimate Answer! Take a look around!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  4. Daniel Tade

    Come on Vatican, Pope should just admit the filt inside the Catholic headquarter. After all Christianity is about honesty not lies.

    August 25, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
  5. eroteme

    It may be a little while before the pope resumes his silly grin.

    August 19, 2012 at 11:12 am |
  6. eroteme

    I said at the beginning the butler did it.

    August 19, 2012 at 11:09 am |
  7. Robert

    when this poop sends his people to isrial. from the" cathodrel" and tells the jews that no matter whate the Bible says. the land no longer belongs to them. that the jews are squaters in the land of palastine. and then the catholics are buddying up with the muslims against isrial. but if you compare the catholic beliefes to whate the Bible (christ) says about a true christian.. the catholics are wronge about nearly every thing thay teach. and yet. the world when asked about who a christian is? will first point there finger at the catholics. so misleading. so sad

    August 16, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
  8. hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

    hindu ignorance called catholic ism is handy work of hindu Jew's, filthy secular s, A Koshered pig, Favorite of hindu's ignorant s called Christians.

    August 15, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
  9. niknak

    Man, just look how creepy that dude looks in those photos.
    If that is the face of catholosism, then definately count me out.
    At least budda looks hip and well fed.

    August 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • saggyroy

      The pope eats babies.

      August 16, 2012 at 6:25 am |
    • Tanya

      You know, there are a lot of other fairer shots you could take at the church than that their leader creeps you out...like the content of this article, for example

      August 16, 2012 at 8:50 am |
  10. Rainer Braendlein

    Frederic the Great, King of Pruzzia, on the Catholic Church:

    I have always found it very strange that these who call themselves successors of the apostles, I mean some poor men – preachers of humility and repentance – should possess great wealth, wallow in luxery, and fill posts more proper to satisfy the vanity of the age and the ostentation of the great than to occupy men who must meditate on the nothingness of human life and on the quest for salvation. However, the clergy of the Roman church is extremly rich. Bishops hold the rank of sovereign princes, and the temporal and spiritual power of the first bishop of Christendom renders him somehow the arbiter of kings(“arbiter of kings” means that the pope was higher than the Emperor, and thus the actual temporal ruler of the whole world) and the fourth person of the Divinity (“person of Divinity” means that the pope really presumes to be on a level with God).

    (Catholic) Clergymen and theologians separate the attributes of the body from those of the soul more scrupulously than anyone else, but their arguments might better be applied to the subject of their ambition. You, they could be told, whose ministry is restricted to the spiritual realm, how can you have so grossly confused it with the temporal? You who so subtly employ the distinguo when it comes to the mind, which you do not understand at all, and to matter, which you understand very little, how does it come that you reject these distinctions when it comes to your interest? It is because these gentlemen worry very little about the unintelligible jargon that they spout out and very much about the great revenues that they take in. It is because their fashion of reasoning must conform to orthodoxy and their fashion of action to their passions; and that the tangible objects of nature are as dominant over their intellect as the real happiness of this life is over the ideal happiness of the next world.

    The astonishing power of clergymen as well as everything which regards their temporal government is the subject of this chapter.

    Machiavelli finds that ecclesiastical princes are very happy because they have to fear neither the rebellion of their subjects nor the ambition of their neighbours (neighbouring princes). The respectable and impressive name of the Divinity shelters them from whatever could oppose their interest and greatness. The princes who attack them would fear the fate of T-itans (T-itans were thrown into the Tartarus, a kind of abyss, by the Greek god Zeus; the Catholic equivalent of Zeus is the pope) and the people who disobey them that of the sacrilegious. The pious policy of this kind of sovereign aims at persuading the world of what Despreaux expresses so well in the verse:

    “He who loves not Cotin loves neither God nor king.”

    What is strange is that these princes find enough credulous dupes who adhere blindly to whatever they want them to believe. It is certain, however, that no country swarms with more beggars than one run by priests. There one can see a touching picture of all human miseries, not of those poor attrackted by the alms of sovereigns, or of those insects who attach themselves to the reach, but of starving beggars deprived of necessities by the “charity” of their bishops so as to prevent them from becoming corrupted by affluence.

    It is undoubtly upon the laws of Sparta where money was prohibited that the principles of these ecclesiastical governments are founded, with the difference that the prelates reserve for themselves the use of the wealth of which they most devoutly despoil their subjects. Blessed, they say, are the poor, for they shall inherit the kingdom of heaven! And since they want everybody to be saved, they make sure that everyone is poor. Oh, ecclesiastical piety, is there anything that escapes your wise foresight?

    Nothing should be more edifying than the story of the heads of the church or vicars of Jesus Christ. One expects to find examples of irreproachable und saintly morals there. However, it is just the contrary. There are only obscenities, abominations, and sources of scandal; and one cannot read the lifes of the popes without detesting their cruelty and perfidy.

    One sees there their immense ambition to augment their temporal power, their sordid avarice in transfering great wealth unjustly and dishonestly to their families in order to enrich their nephews, mistresses, or ba-stards.

    Those who reflect insufficiently find it peculiar that people suffer the oppression of this kind of sovereign with docility and patience, that they do not open their eyes to the vices and excesses of the clergymen who degrade them, and that they endure from a head that is shorn what they wold not suffer from a head crowned with laurels. This phenomenon appears less strange to those who know the power of supersti-tion upon idiots and of fanaticism on the human mind. They know that religion is an old machine that will never wear out and that has always been used to insure the fidelity of people and put a brake on the restlessness of human reason. They knew that error can blind the most penetrating men and that there is nothing more triumphant than the policy of those who put heaven and hell, God and the devil into play in order to attain their designs. Even the true religion itself, the purest source of all our good, is most deplorably abused and often becomes the origin and principle of all our misfortunes.

    The author (Machiavelli) most judiciously notes what contributed to the elevation of the Holy See. Hee attributes it principally to the able conduct of Alexander VI, a pontiff who pushed cruelty to the extreme and who knew no justice but perfidy. One could not thus confuse the product of the ambition of this pontiff with the work of Divinity. Heaven could not have played any direct part in the elevation of this temporal greatness, which is only the work of a very vicious and depraved man. One could thus do no better than to distinguish carefully among clergy men betweeen the mark of God when they announce the divine orders and the corrupt man when they are thinking only of satisfying their passions.

    The eulogy of Leo X concludes this chapter, but his eulogy doesn’t carry much wight since Machiavelli was the contemporary of this pope. Any praise by a subject to his master or by an author to a prince appears, what ever one may say, as very close to flattery. Our life can only be judged by posterity, which judges without passions or interest. Machiavelli should have been the last to make an attempt at flattery, for he was not a competent judge of true merit, not even knowing what virtue was; and I don’t know if it is better to have been praised than blamed by him. I leave this question for the reader to judge.

    August 15, 2012 at 9:17 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

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      August 15, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • Guest

      It is apparent you really must think highly of yourself to post such long comments. Do you realize how dumb you look when you do this?

      August 15, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • Guest

      Do we know if Jesus kept a butler? If so, did that man cause any trouble similar to this? If he didn't cause any trouble, then the real question here is how was he kept in line, and what can Pope Benedict learn from that going forward?

      August 15, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
  11. saggyroy

    I truly am astounded that people keep supporting the catholic church. They are morons.

    August 15, 2012 at 6:35 am |
    • kindless

      Well, some rich, smart folk also don't take care of their teeth. They just let them rot away. The human mind can talk itself into into just about anything. My oh my.

      August 15, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • billdeacons

      What a profound insight kindless

      August 15, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
  12. A priest's penis is not healthy for an altar boy's ass

    Prayer doesn't help.

    August 15, 2012 at 6:26 am |
    • niknak

      You rock!

      August 15, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
  13. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things,

    August 15, 2012 at 5:48 am |
    • Simran

      One day, Joe, Bob and Dave were hiking in a wilderness area when they came upon a large, raging, violent river. They needed to get to the other side, but had no idea of how to do so.

      Joe prayed to God, saying, "Please God, give me the strength to cross this river."

      Poof! God gave him big arms and strong legs, and he was able to swim across the river in about two hours, although he almost drowned a couple of times.

      Seeing this, Dave prayed to God, saying, "Please God, give me the strength and the tools to cross this river."

      Poof! God gave him a rowboat and he was able to row across the river in about an hour, after almost capsizing the boat a couple of times.

      Bob had seen how this worked out for the other two, so he also prayed to God saying, "Please God, give me the strength and the tools, and the intelligence, to cross this river."

      Poof! God turned him into a woman. She looked at the map, hiked upstream a couple of hundred yards, then walked across the bridge

      August 15, 2012 at 6:24 am |
    • Simran

      A country preacher decided to skip services one Sunday and head to the hills to do some bear hunting. As he rounded the corner on a perilous twist in the trail, he and a bear collided, sending him and his rifle tumbling down the mountainside.

      Before he knew it, his rifle went one way and he went the other, landing on a rock and breaking both legs. That was the good news. The bad news was the ferocious bear charging at him from a distance, and he couldn't move.

      "Oh Lord," the preacher prayed, "I'm so sorry for skipping services today to come out here and hunt. Please forgive me and grant me just one wish.... please make a Christian out of that bear that's coming at me. Please, Lord!"

      That very instant, the bear skidded to a halt, fell to its knees, clasped its paws together and began to pray aloud right at the preacher's feet.

      "Dear Lord, bless this food I am about to receive... in Jesus' name... Amen."

      August 15, 2012 at 6:26 am |
    • Ryan DuhBest

      Why waste your time making prayers, when you can spend all day answering them.

      August 15, 2012 at 6:32 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ~

      August 15, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  14. Robert

    I just simply want to comment about the Catholic Church and their way of thinking. My Mother passed away in 2004, my wife and I went to St. Mary's church in Norwalk Ct to arrange the funeral services. During the Sunday service the Priest asked all new comers to raise their hands, my wife and I did being proud and thought we would get some sort of welcome.

    We did not, the priest actually asked all people that raised their hands to leave and not to come back, Yes this is a fact and my wife and I were so discussed in the Catholic Churches way of thinking we have converted. But I will add that we have visited the Vatican on many occasions, and would further say that a Priest as such should be removed.

    August 15, 2012 at 2:56 am |
    • saggyroy

      Just xtians being xtians....

      August 15, 2012 at 6:22 am |
    • AGuest9

      Sounds like one that took over where I grew up. For years, the previous monsignor had carefully managed the elementary school, so well, that two other schools were closed and ended up being merged with it. Anything "his children" needed, they received. We had science lab equipment the likes I hadn't seen again until college. "His children" needed a cafeteria, and he approached the Diocese and fraternal groups within the parish and conducted fund-raisers. We had a nice cafeteria built, with the newest cooking equipment, and a large dishwasher to sanitize all of the trays, plates, bowls, utensils, etc. He died as pastor emeritus while I was in college. The monsignor that took over was evil, ran the school into the ground, chased away members in droves. The school eventually closed, even the Boy Scout troop which used the church basement for meetings left. As it also turns out, one of the priests under him was molesting boys. One doesn't need to be religious to be good, but there are also evil people who hide behind their religion.

      August 15, 2012 at 9:23 am |
  15. Henry James

    Believing and Truth are not the same thing. When you believe in spite of the evidence to the contrary, it just makes you confident and wrong. This closed mindedness prevents you from learning the real Truth. If you do not allow yourself to learn Truth then you are swimming upstream against the current of reality and make your life harder than it has to be. Often it is not you that pays the most for your beliefs but those closest to you. Many times the people that realize you are wrong and do not want you ruling their life and making it worse. I wonder how many families have been destroyed due to sons and daughters being shunned out of intolerance?

    August 15, 2012 at 1:07 am |
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