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Atheist group removes billboards targeting presidential candidates' religious faith
American Atheists says it took down billboards critical of the candidates' religions in Charlotte, North Carolina, after threats.
August 27th, 2012
09:55 AM ET

Atheist group removes billboards targeting presidential candidates' religious faith

By Dan Gilgoff and Dan Merica, CNN

(CNN) - An atheist group that raised a pair of billboards taking aim at the presidential candidates’ religion at the site of next month’s Democratic National Convention has pulled the signs after what the group called a “large volume of threats.”

The billboards, sponsored by American Atheists, took aim at Mormonism and Christianity and went up this month in Charlotte, North Carolina, which will play host to the Democratic convention.

Presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney is a Mormon, and President Barack Obama is also a Christian.

The billboard targeting Christianity featured an image of Jesus Christ on toast and this description of the faith: "Sadistic God; Useless Savior, 30,000+ Versions of ‘Truth,’ Promotes Hates, Calls it ‘Love.’ ”

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The billboard targeting Mormonism lambasted - and, Mormons would say, distorted - specific Mormon doctrines: "God is a Space Alien, Baptizes Dead People, Big Money, Big Bigotry.”

The Mormon billboard featured a man in white underwear, a reference to special Mormon garments.

American Atheists said the billboards provoked a “large volume of threats” by phone and e-mail and that the group reported the threats to police.

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“It is with regret that we tell our members and all of those who treasure free speech and the separation of religion and government that American Atheists and Adams Outdoor Advertising have mutually agreed to remove the billboards immediately,” Amanda Knief, American Atheists’ managing director, said in a statement last week.

“No subject, no idea should be above scrutiny - and this includes religion in all forms,” Knief said. “We are saddened that by choosing to express our rights as atheists through questioning the religious beliefs of the men who want to be our president that our fellow citizens have responded with vitriol, threats and hate speech against our staff, volunteers and Adams Outdoor Advertising.”

American Atheists had wanted to put the anti-Mormon billboard in Tampa, Florida, to coincide with this week's Republican National Convention.

When no billboard company in the city would lease the group space for such a sign, American Atheists President David Silverman said the organization decided to focus solely on the Democrats in Charlotte.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Atheism • Politics

soundoff (1,780 Responses)
  1. bostontola

    American Atheists,
    Freedom of speech is fundamental, but you shouldn't put such inflammatory words on the billboard if your real motive is to educate and influence.
    Signed,
    Atheist

    August 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  2. NYOMD

    So much for the First Amendment. This country will never evolve.

    August 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @NYOMD,

      that's because 46% of Americans don't believe in evolution!

      August 27, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • VanHagar

      Nor will it evolve if people don't understand their rights. The 1st Amendment is not an issue here–it only protects us from the government–not from capitalism and public opinion which is what brought the signs down.

      August 27, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
  3. Laurie

    This is a really fun forum. hahaha

    August 27, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • why

      Thanks Laurie. It's a good idea to "be joyful always."

      August 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  4. why

    So is pedophilia wrong? Why? Says who? Some people are born with an inclination to like small children. It's probably scientifically provable by a nano-something in the brain. What should pedophiles do? Self control? That is unreasonable. Not possible. Maybe they should pray about it. No... that would be unreasonable. Besides, who is to say that someone that is born that way can help it? Who's to say that is wrong to begin with?

    August 27, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Is incest wrong? Not accoring to the bible. Lot was "rightous" and screwed his daughters and nowhere does it even imply he was wrong to do so.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • just sayin

      That is because you are misrepresenting the passage and Lot. Lot was innocent of any wrongdoing because he was the victim of a devious plot against him, and totally unaware of what happened. You wrongly assume that Lot was an active participant when in truth he was abused by his children. God bless

      August 27, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Just Sayin,

      Yeah, that is the justification the bible gives but it does not make sense. If Lot was so drunk he could not recognize his own daughters he would not have been physically able to perform a s.e.x act. The fact that he was able to "perform' tells us he was not that drunk. And were his daughters punished for their immoral behavior? No they were not, which also then implies what they did was not wrong.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • just sayin

      @cheese
      Lots daughters were indeed punished as the resulting descendants were destroyed as enemies of Israel. It may be beyond your comprehension but you do not have to be awake for your body to be made to function.

      August 27, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Awake and too drunk to fvck and recognize your children are 2 differnent things.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
  5. why

    What is wrong? Murder? Who's to say anything is wrong? Is there is a standard? Where was that standard created?

    August 27, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • .

      It wasn't by the Christian God since only 2 of the ten commandments became law, our morality has evolved over time.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • why

      Whoops. I guess the mirror neurons are defining right and wrong. Whew. Glad we got that cleared up.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • Adam

      The God of Abraham, quite apparently, has done nothing to inform its followers that making threats against the lives of others is wrong.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • socialsaint

      Every enfranchized citizen has the authority to say what they think is right and wrong in a democracy. The king in a monarchy. The Church in a theocracy. There needs to be some standard of right and wrong, otherwise there is chaos and life becomes extremely brutish and short.

      Here is a riddle for you, who gets to say what is right and wrong if the vast majority of the electorate is religious and votes according to their religious beliefs? Would that be a democracy, a theocracy, or a theodemocracy?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • .

      why, animals groups have shown the same thing in their evolution as well if you actually took some time to look at what's out there in research.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • why

      Umm. Is there an answer yet?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Socialsaint,

      You are impying we live in a strict democracy where majority always rules, it doesn't. We have individual rights and freedoms that cannot be taken away by the majority.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • truth be told

      @.
      1. Blasphemy laws insti tuted and still on the books of many states.
      2. Sunday "blue" laws in effect until recently still on the books and still enforced in some areas
      3. Stealing
      4. Murder
      5. Perjury
      And the others which form the basis for a mult itude of our laws but not worded specifically as in the 10. Obscenity, Family Services, Fraud (idolatry) etc.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Why,

      We say as a collective what is right and wrong. We as humans create the standard and we as humans re-evaluate the standard over time.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • .

      TBT – those types of laws did not come from Christianity and that was the point. Love how you tried to twist it to fit.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @tbt,

      fact check time. Where is there any operative blasphemy statute?

      The last court case on blasphemy was invoked on a 'crime' in Massachusetts, based on a COLONIAL statue before the Congregationalist church was disestablished in 1833.

      The 1st amendmend obviates any blasphemy statute.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • truth be told

      All American law is and was based on the ten commandments, and the Bible.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      More lies from the troll keyboard of truth be told. We should all hope he doesn't really believe the crap he writes, because that would just be really sad.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • truth be told

      The Ten Commandments are from Judaism not Christianity.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • just sayin

      What is not to believe it is all true. God bless

      August 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @truth be told – "All American law is and was based on the ten commandments, and the Bible."

      Nonsense.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
    • just sayin

      @cheesemaker
      Are you saying we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights? God bless

      August 27, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • truth be told

      @reallyo
      Historical fact.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Just Sayin,

      No I am saying the Bill of Rights and the Const.ition is the basis for our laws and protects individuals from the majority. Oh and by the way no where in our Consti.tution is a god EVER referred to. Not once. Nill. Notta.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      The Ten Commandments and U.S. Law:

      1: Have no other gods – NOT A LAW
      2: Make no graven image – NOT A LAW
      3: Don’t take the name in vain – NOT A LAW
      4: Honor the Sabbath – NOT A LAW
      5: Honor thy father and mother – NOT A LAW
      6: Thou shalt not kill – NOT UNIQUE TO CHRISTIANITY (long pre-dated it)
      7: Thou shalt not commit adultery – huge number of Christians commit adultery by LEGALLY remarrying
      8: Thou shalt not steal – NOT UNIQUE TO CHRISTIANITY
      9: Thou shalt not bear false witness – NOT UNIQUE TO CHRISTIANITY
      10: Thou shalt not covet – NOT A LAW

      August 27, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @truth be told

      I would say prove it, but when have you ever actually done that to any moronic claim that you've thrown out?

      August 27, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • just sayin

      Jefferson calls God our creator but does not use the word God. What is your point? America founded by Christian principle for Christians. That is a problem you all face, you are square pegs in a round hole world. America works best when America works Christian. God bless

      August 27, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @truth be told – regarding: "Historical fact."

      I said nonsense, now I'll cut to the chase...bullsh!t. Examples of laws not referenced, explicitly or implicitly, by the ten commandments:

      –Laws regarding ra'pe and child abuse.
      –Laws prohibiting the manufacture, sale, possession, and use of illicit drugs.
      –Contract law.
      –Tort law.
      –Copyright law.
      –Laws prohibiting discrimination.
      –Laws regarding voter fraud.

      I could go on for days, but it's not necessary. You're just blowing smoke, truth be told. And, you're making yourself look foolish and/or dishonest.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Just Sayin,

      The founding doc.ument of ALL our laws never once references a god, a creator or any religious authority. You would think If our laws were specifically based on your religion it would reference the christian god, the bible or Jesus. It doesn't and this is a HUGE problem for your assertion our laws are based on any of it.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • 24shamsky

      How many people supposedly died as a result of the Great Flood? If God did in fact orchestrate their deaths, doesn't that mean that they were, in effect, murdered? Or is there some sort of Divine Loophole that excuses this?

      August 27, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  6. JaneDough

    truth be told

    No shouting simple fact to be a Christian you must be born again not merely say you are one.

    I think most at least hopefully most were born OK the first time around! So sorry you weren't! Sometimes ya need a few rounds to get it right apparently! lol

    August 27, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
  7. why

    Atheists seem to have a sense of right and wrong. It's like they were born with it. Where does that come from? Who put it there?

    August 27, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • .

      Religious people find it very annoying that people don't need God to be good, as science has now incontestably proved.

      For millennia, we've been brainwashed into believing that we needed the Almighty to redeem us from an essentially corrupt nature. Left to our own devices, people would quickly devolve into beasts, more violent, tactless, aggressive, and selfish, than we already are.

      Today, we know that this isn't true. With the discovery of mirror neurons by Italian neuroscientist Giaccomo Rizzolatti in the 1990s, we now have physiological proof of why - and how - our species became hard-wired for goodness. Mirror neurons are miraculous cells in the brain whose sole purpose is to harmonize us with our environments. By reflecting the outside world inward, we actually become each other - a little bit; neurologically changed by what is happening around us. Mirror neurons are the reason that we have empathy and can feel each other's pain. It is because of mirror neurons that you blush when you see someone else humiliated, flinch when someone else is struck, and can't resist the urge to laugh when seeing a group struck with the giggles. (Indeed, people who test for "contagious yawning" tend to be more empathic.) These tiny mirrors are the key to most things noble and good inside us.

      It is through mirror neurons - not God - that we redeem ourselves, achieve salvation, and are "reborn" in virtuous ways once co-opted by religions. Evolution knew what she was doing. A group of successful cooperators has a much higher chance of thriving than a population of selfish liars. In spite of what we read in the headlines, the ratio of bad to good deeds done on any given day across our planet holds at close to zero any day of the year. Although we are ethical works-in-progress, the vast majority of us are naturally positive creatures - meaning not harmful to our environments - most of the time in most of the ways that matter. And God has nothing to do with it.

      Spirituality does but God doesn't. Evolutionary psychologists tell us that our brains are hard-wired with a five-toned moral organ that focuses on a quintet of ethical values - one of which is purity, or sacredness. In a world that can sometimes be disgusting, we evolved an upper tier of emotional longing - the aspiration for purity - to keep us balanced in this satyricon of carnal delights (where animality beckons and frequently wins). Our need for sacredness is part of our ancient survival apparatus, and manifests in what we call faith, the need to connect with that sacred dimension. This has been the primary purpose of religion, of course - to congregate people for the Greater Good - but God has been, in fact, the divine carrot. The important part was communion, a context in which to transcend ourselves, if only for an hour on Sundays. Without this ability "to turn off the Me and turn on the We," moral psychologist Jonathan Haidt tells us, our species would still be wandering around as groups of nomads, unable to create a civilization.

      Aside from mirror neurons, there's oxytocin, the molecule of connection (also known as the molecule of love). It's fascinating to learn that the vagus nerve produces more oxytocin when we witness virtuous behavior in others that makes us want to be better people ourselves. We are wired by nature to be elevated at the sight of other people's goodness, mirror neurons and oxytocin conspiring to improve the species. Miraculous though it is, this natural human phenomenon has nothing to do with theology.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • Laurie

      I'm not an Athiest, but, you ask:

      "Atheists seem to have a sense of right and wrong. It's like they were born with it. Where does that come from? Who put it there?"

      and, all I keep thinking is how many people of all religions, post on these boards, thinking they all know it all. So, that question is out there for all who think they are above all else.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • why

      Oxytocin? That's a great reason to get married. Very romantic.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • truth be told

      Atheist sense of right and wrong allowed atheist Joe Stalin to torture and murder 24 million of his people. Great moral example of what atheism is all about.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      truth be told/HeavenSent continues with weak and very poor thinking.

      Rulers who have sometimes abandoned their religion to kill do not describe atheism. Rather, they define what is typical of all religion – abandon your core doctrines when necessary to wage war. So you are putting your foot in your mouth HeavenSent when you continue to associate ruthless rulers with atheism.

      Hitler: Christian
      Pol Pot: Buddhist
      Stalin: Christian at various stages in life

      It is more important for society to notice how entire religions have killed and disenfranchised people as if it were part of their core doctrine. Just read up a bit on the various inquisitions to get started.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • 24shamsky

      Of course most atheists can readily distinguish what they believe to be right from wrong, but even among non-believers, there's no clear consensus on either one. Ayn Rand was a miliitant atheist, yet as a nonbeliever, I find her belief system to be positively repugnant. I think that our conceptions of right and wrong are shaped primarily by other people - our parents, teachers, friends, role models, etc. - as opposed to having been "planted" in our minds by an invisible supernatural force.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @truth be told

      allowing ... Joe Stalin to torture and murder 24 million of his people

      thank you for recasting your thesis with an assertion that is much closer to consenus estimates.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • 24shamsky

      @truthbetold: Ever hear of a fellow named Torquemada? His devotion to his Christian beliefs led him to systematically torture and then murder over 2000 people, by some of the most godawful, gruesome means ever devised. There will always be examples of extreme behavior on both sides of the believer/non-believer aisle, but Stalinism is no more representative of atheist morality than the Inquisition was representative of mainstream Catholicism.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV: "@truth be told: 'allowing ... Joe Stalin to torture and murder 24 million of his people'
      thank you for recasting your thesis with an assertion that is much closer to consenus estimates."

      Oh yeah – what was the figure she (truth be told / HeavenSent) was using before 800 million? tard.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @why

      you asked: Atheists seem to have a sense of right and wrong. It's like they were born with it. Where does that come from?

      Here's what Thomas Jefferson said on that topic:

      "If we did a good act merely from love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? ...Their virtue, then, must have had some other foundation than the love of God." – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Law, June 13, 1814

      I agree with him. Morality exists in all cultures irrespective of religion. Religion is invented by humans to codify and reinforce morality.

      I saw this on the Bill Nye thread this morning about human behaviors:

      Moral = Doing what is right no matter what.
      Religion = Doing what you are told no matter what.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  8. JaneDough

    montymoose2

    ONE DAY WHEN THOSE WHO PROMOTE ANTI THEISM STAND IN FRONT OF GOD AND HE ASKS THEM
    "WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY HEAVEN "
    It will be very interesting to hear their answers....
    Probably they will say... I didnt know you really existed,,,,
    God might answer...I GAVE YOU A BOOK OF INSTRUCTIONS AND I SENT MY SON TO GIVE YOU THE MESSAGE PERSONALLY . I EVEN PAID THE PRICE OF ADMISSION FOR YOU...
    You refused it.... Now its too late.DEPART FROM ME- Please shut up alraedy and convince somone else about your BS belief!

    PRISM 1234

    Who cares anyway what the atheists say anyway? Let them make fools out of themselves! They can can spend all their money till it runs dry, they can line the highways with their billboards, every one of them to the last bun-dock dirt road, but they'll NEVER do away with God, and His Son Jesus Christ who is the King of all creation.
    And each one of them will squirm like worms in the dust before the glory of His appearance, and will bow their knees in acknowledgment of Who HE IS! So let them rave, let them puff themselves...... time will tell all things. And THAT time will come soon enough!
    Even so, come quickly LORD JESUS!- As far as the COME QUICKLY comment! AGREED! The sooner You and others like you and your religion LEAVE the Happier the rest of us with SENSE and BRAINS will be!! Peace will then be upon us!

    August 27, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
  9. saopaco

    Welcome to America, land of religious liberty- worship our god or else.

    "American Atheists said the billboards provoked a “large volume of threats” by phone and e-mail and that the group reported the threats to police."

    August 27, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
  10. Nietodarwin

    I wonder if atheists need less corrective lenses than the religious population. We certainly have better minds and more vision. I doubt it could be true, but only a scientific study can answer that for me.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • truth be told

      Like the vision of a Stalin who as an atheist is credited with more than 24 million murders.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      truth be told/HeavenSent continues with weak and very poor thinking.

      Rulers who have sometimes abandoned their religion to kill do not describe atheism. Rather, they define what is typical of all religion – abandon your core doctrines when necessary to wage war. So you are putting your foot in your mouth HeavenSent when you continue to associate ruthless rulers with atheism.

      Hitler: Christian
      Pol Pot: Buddhist
      Stalin: Christian at various stages in life

      It is more important for society to notice how entire religions have killed and disenfranchised people as if it were part of their core doctrine. Just read up a bit on the various inquisitions to get started.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • truth be told

      To it that is so impressed with my handle that it imitates it.
      All those were atheists, not a Christian in the group.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"It is more important for society to notice how entire religions have killed and disenfranchised people as if it were part of their core doctrine"

      So, society should only be told of the negatives of a group and any positives should be held from general acknowledgements? If that is the case, say we were talking race, ...lets change the wording a bit. 🙂

      "It is more important for society to notice how "Whites" have killed and disenfranchised people as if it were part of their core doctrine."

      Does that statement work for you. I know a few Black militants who spew this type of statement all day long. All I had to do was drop out one group and replace it with another. Let's try again.

      "It is more important for society to notice how "Men" have killed and disenfranchised people as if it were part of their core doctrine"

      I have run across a few radical Feminist and guess what ...they say this statement.

      Hate is a waste of time ...let it go and find another way.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
  11. JaneDough

    IF tha is so "Truth be told" Explain the dark ages, Salem Witch trials? Oh even Sept 11! = RELIGION All in the name of YOUR god and Their's! TRUTH be told and Showed!

    August 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • truth be told

      Previous thread, close examination proves the perpetrators of such things were not Christian but merely called themselves Christian. Liars atheists agnostics all.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      truth be told/HeavenSent blabbed with: "truth be told
      Previous thread, close examination proves the perpetrators of such things were not Christian but merely called themselves Christian. Liars atheists agnostics all."

      No, this is the core nature of Christianity – jump fence between various conflicting tenets to server your immediate purpose. And thus, a Christian is slightly always offending another Christian, but really just validating poor behavior for all of them. Has nothing to do with atheism. What a tard.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      So Jane are we to follow the model of defining an entire group by the actions of some. Folks like Rev Wright and Louis Farakhann have been doing this your decades. If you talk to them all Whites are racist closeted klansmen. None have done any thing but lynch and burn crosses.

      Christianity has its ones that do negative actions in the name of their relationship with God and some have done positive. For all of the 9/11 terrorist you have two groups that point to that day to justify their hatred. The ones that say that they are evil just because they are Muslim and others that say they are evil just because they were not White. That is why hate is so stupid because in an instant you can find yourself aligned with some pretty nasty folks.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Laurie

      Truth be told: How do you put agnostics in the same category as athiests?

      Previous thread, close examination proves the perpetrators of such things were not Christian but merely called themselves Christian. Liars atheists agnostics all.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • truth be told

      In order to get a number that registers on a percentage scale atheists add agnostics and unalliliated to their numbers all the time.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • 24shamsky

      @truthbetold: You claim that perpetrators of mass murders like Adolf Hitler or Charles Taylor were not Christians but "merely called themselves Christian." Atheists and agnostics, however, do not call themselves Christians or identify with any other religious denomination. We clearly identify ourselves as atheists and agnostics. Thus the people to whom you refer were neither atheists nor agnostics. They were Christians - Christians gone horribly astray, perhaps, but Christians nevertheless.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
  12. Nietodarwin

    CNN had an article calling the internet the new "church' of atheists, (very illogical, but never mind that.) This is why. The religious have been MURDERING non-believers for centuries. The billboard was tacky, but atheists are still quite peaceful, otherwise churches would be blowing up left and right in this country. We are THE MOST POISONED COUNTRY by religion, other than the muslim governments. Xstians are just like the Taliban.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • truth be told

      Atheists have murdered more people in the last 100 years than were killed in every previous century.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • JaneDough

      Christians need their religious beliefs because when it comes time to being accountable for THIER WRONG doings they just point the finger at the "Devil"!! LOL Seriously! Talk about lack of accountability!

      August 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • truth be told

      There is no True Christian wrong doing. People claiming to be Christian have done wrong but close examination proves them to be atheist or agnostic.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      Sorry there "truth be told" you are not telling the truth, and what you've been told in church and sunday school is not truth either.
      Shouting louder and more often doesn't make it true. Get some education.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"The billboard was tacky, but atheists are still quite peaceful, otherwise churches would be blowing up left and right in this country."

      Since Atheist are not getting beheaded by the dozen.... can you point to such an occurrence in the States of this.... then you have to admit that most Christians and other Faithful are still quite peaceful.

      If we were not, then there would be Atheist homes and businesses would be going up in balls of fire. But, that has not happened.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • truth be told

      No shouting simple fact to be a Christian you must be born again not merely say you are one.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • truth be told

      @mark
      Give an atheist rule like a Stalin or Mao and millions will die at the hand of the "peaceful" atheist.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Well, be Told. The desire for power and control is not a Faith based thing. You take Russia, a country of that size, population and access to tons of resources and time and time again you run the risk of ultimate power corrupting.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      truth be told / HeavenSent / james / Peter / Atheism is Not Healthy . . . / captain america
      has once again regressed into the enlightened fortune cookie writing mode:

      "No shouting simple fact to be a Christian you must be born again not merely say you are one."

      @mark: "Give an atheist rule like a Stalin or Mao and millions will die at the hand of the "peaceful" atheist."

      August 27, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • truth be told

      What is asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof, "save the world..." you are dismissed !

      August 27, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • 24shamsky

      "Truth be told": "There is no True Christian wrong doing."

      But aren't all men sinners? If that's true - and it's the fundamental foundation of all Judeo-Christian thought - then by your own logic, there's no such thing as a true Christian.

      Go back and try again.

      August 27, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
  13. JaneDough

    Monymoose2– are you like 5 years old? If you are a GROWN UP ADULT that is a scary ass thought! The thing others have forward to looking to is the world becoming peaceful WITHOUT people like you and your crazy ass beleif! It's so funny how the minute someone is incarcerated into jail or prison they find YOUR god! hmmmmm Imagine that!

    August 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
  14. Bob

    Monymoose2– are you like 5 years old? If you are a GROWN UP ADULT that is a scary ass thought! The thing others have forward to looking to is the world becoming peaceful WITHOUT people like you and your crazy ass beleif! It's so funny how the minute someone is incarcerated into jail or prison they find YOUR god! hmmmmm Imagine that!

    August 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
  15. Atheism is Healthy for Kids and Grown-Ups Too!

    It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. Teaching kids to be agnostic helps reinforce their understanding of the new real things they can see and learn about in life. It helps them properly separate the known from the unknown without confusing them. They just need to be taught things that are unknown, like god, and things that are made up, like all religion.

    Atheists have strong minds, and don't run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, disserving society).

    We have only begun to scratch the surface in using the mind to its maximum. Damaging it with made-up junk that politicians and salesmen dreamed up long ago is senseless, and limits the mind's potential. These politicians and charlatans didn't even do a good job of organizing and being consistent with the stuff they dreamt up to try to control people. Daddy used to say they were caught with their pants down when the bible was first translated so that common folk could read it. Very true.

    Instead of praying to make-believe people, get a good cup of tea or coffee and go on and sit down and collect your damn thoughts. My goodness.

    mama kindless

    August 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • truth be told

      How healthy is torture and murder ?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      Atheism is healthy for kids, grown-ups, and the only hope for the survival of our species on the planet.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • truth be told

      If atheism is so "good" why is it whenever an atheist rules a country millions are murdered?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      It is religions that have tortured and murdered people. Proven.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      Rulers who have sometimes abandoned their religion to kill do not describe atheism. Rather, they define what is typical of all religion – abandon your core doctrines when necessary to wage war. So you are putting your foot in your mouth HeavenSent when you continue to associate ruthless rulers with atheism.

      Hitler: Christian
      Pol Pot: Buddhist
      Stalin: Christian at various stages in life

      August 27, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
  16. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    August 27, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ~ `

      August 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • truth be told

      Prayer caused the walls of Jericho and the atheist lies to come tumbling down.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      Jericho tumbling? hmmm....in your little fiction maybe. but in real life – no. try again and thanks for playing!

      August 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  17. Slyjinx

    SLG, did you even read the article? It's about an atheist group that received threats for putting up a billboard. Your post makes no sense. Atheist groups haven't asked that pro-religion billboards be taken down and certainly not through threats of violence.

    Tell you what, why don't you actually read what it says then get back to me without the anti-liberal nonsense in your post.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • socialsaint

      They are not pro-atheism billboards, they are anti-Mormon and anti-Christian billboards. It's an important difference. Rather than talking about what atheists believe, they talk about why they think Mormons and Christians are immoral and weird.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Emanckin

      Go back up and reread the article. No where does it specify what these "threats" were or if they truly were "threats." We are relying on the word of an atheist group who engaged in publicly calling the Christian God a "Sadistic God" and other inflammatory statements. What did they deem "large volume"? What did they deem a threat?

      If their billboard is any indication, they may have taken an undisclosed number of emails, projected their bias on them, and then concluded it was a "threat." The "threat" to them may be construed as a complaint to others. The group seems to have a penchant for being overly dramatic.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
  18. Bob

    lol

    August 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
  19. Nietodarwin

    Religion is the opposite of education, and the reason our test scores are now so far behind many other countries.
    Xstians think that the 1st amendment that protects their right to have their delusions gives them the right to kill anyone who disagrees, and the right to drag the whole country down with them. RELIGION IS POISON, (and very unpatriotic)

    August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • truth be told

      Religion is the reason there is education. All the oldest and most established universities in the country were established by the church to teach the word of God.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"Religion is the opposite of education, and the reason our test scores are now so far behind many other countries."

      Then why do private Religious based school students test so much higher in the areas of Math and Science than the students in secular school? If Religion was the opposite of Education then how do you account for the thousands of Religious schools? Even Nancy Pelosi was a graduate of a Catholic school education.

      Maybe we are slipping so far behind other countries because our school focus more on social engineering than the Maths and sciences.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Mark,

      parochial schools are not a problem. Clearly they are better funded and able to do a better job of educating their students. No doubt there are well educated home scholars as well.

      I would disagree here with Nietodarwin that it is religion that is bringing down test scores in schools. I don't have an explanation for that.

      From the "Bill Nye" thread it is clear that religion is perverting the beneficial effects of education (in the sciences at least) in adult population the US. People are willing to reject knowledge and replace it with mythology if the latter is consistent with their world view. I can't explain that either.

      August 27, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
  20. Bob

    serewfregrger

    August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • Moaamroei

      Very well said! I agree!

      August 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
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