home
RSS
Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories

In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique

The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter

In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

soundoff (14,640 Responses)
  1. Adam

    How are people so stupid. It is so irritating to be living with people who believe in magical fairies and god. You are not special! This world is part of a system and so are you!

    Stop holding back education and science!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • Carrie

      To Adam, God created science and it confirms who He is. The more we learn about science, the more it proves Him. I don't have enough "faith" to believe it all just happened on it's own. Now, THAT would be narrow minded for sure.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Michelle

      Carrie, can you please point out a singel scientific result that prooved the existance of your god, or any god for that matter?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • Mandy

      Only people who have never REALLY tried to decipher the Bible and truly have a relationship with God say things like what you did adam. I used to not believe and was critical just like you are now. Until God (the triune God of the Bible, that is) revealed Himself to me. What I find to be really irrational is how people throw around hate when they disagree with others views. You don't have to be so stinking ugly just because you disagree.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
  2. Got_You

    Lol! I am so glad there's so few people like you in this world, and fewer all the time.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  3. Colin

    I have a friend who is on an archeological dig in the Republic of Croatia. He emailed me about how they had found the remains of the earliest ho.mo sapiens outside of Africa, dating to a couple of hundred thousand years ago. There is an entire research team there from Oxford University’s paleontology department, the most respected in the World.

    Fortunately, I have a creationist friend who informed me that the entire World began only 6,000 years ago with man already totally evolved (and with a talking snake). So, I am going to write to the team and tell them to all fold up their tents and go home and read their Bibles. The answers to the natural history of the human species are all in there.

    Thanks creationists, you have made me really smart!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • MIchele

      And the saddest part is that we allow them to reproduce.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Even worse... we let them vote...

      August 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Who me?

      actually Praisethe lard..You vote FOR them..

      August 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
  4. Dan586

    “Science is all about theories. Science can be wrong but at least they admit it and keep searching for the truth. Religion we are told is "FACT" and we should stop searching and just take their word for it.

    Science is about smashing locked doors down to see what is on the other side. Religion is about never opening any doors. If there was heaven and I died and God said "Dan welcome to Heaven but see that locked door over there ? NEVER OPEN IT. The first thing I would do is smash it down to see what is on the other side.

    This is the biggest difference between Democrats and Republicans. The best Example of this is "The World is Flat" go to far and you will fall off the edge of the world. Now there was a locked door.”

    August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  5. Rocky Mountain High

    God was made in our image.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  6. 47%? No way

    Thats a crazy about of people!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Yes, it's an awful lot of crazy.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  7. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • snowboarder

      wow. a prayer troll

      August 27, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • Gary

      yeah, the amount of time you could spend doing other things

      August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • DarklyDivine

      does that make you an atheist troll?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • rlj

      Pray for rational thinking

      August 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • Jesus

      `Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ~

      August 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • Observer

      "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

      August 27, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • Michelle

      Proove it.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • ummmm.....

      "Proove it"

      It can't which is why it's posted over and over again.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • David R

      Jesus: Prayer are answered in my life and shows time and time again... Again, if you read the Bible.... Healing or Dying in any matter is based on His Sovereignty not mine... If you pray for the real reason, purpose, and intention, God will answer and He have in my life.. Saving my life is not always God's plan.. Rather, I should be more concerned about my soul and have I truly repented and believe He is my Lord and Savior? I am just saying, your perspective is about saving this life when God even state that He will take your Eternal Life away if you seek to preserve your own mortal life.. Again, if we are truly seeking Him, He will give life and provide grace to extend our mortal lives.. It is not in my hand but God.. That is reality.. Just like you could die today, tomorrow, in the future, etc... We should worry about your position to God and where you believe...

      August 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
  8. Punctus

    Yo "creationists"! Ignorance is not a point of view. It is just ignorance. No matter how long and hard you shout it does not make it reality. Sorry. Your ancestors were proto-apes and your great-great ancestors were single celled animals. Sorry, If it makes you feel any better I have a great grandfather who was a horse thief.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • David R

      But your argument just makes me laugh.. What evidence do you have? The evidence that was determined have all came out to be false.. You have to PROVE YOUR THEORY TO MAKE IT A LAW... But the natural laws seems to validate that evolution does not work.. Genetic mutation does not make us a better creation if anything, we mutate for the worse.. We have no evolved beings and your general relativism that it happens gradually still seems to fail time and time again.. Look, call others ignorant without facts make you as or more ignorant.. I look at all the evidence and it seems to point to Creation.. That is my take but to tell me that I have to keep telling myself that it is reality is absurd.. Isn't it Science that needs to prove I am wrong? But why does science fail to disprove the facts... Evolution is nothing but a theory and that evidence just does not show to be any substance and every finding just points that the specimen is either ape or man.. Not transition..

      August 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • QS

      LOL! Thank for that! :-)

      August 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • rlj

      David R – that is funny! Your arguments sound like you have been playing madlib with a list of words from a science book and a bible.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • Michelle

      David, where was it published that every single piece of evidence for evolution was proven false? For such a finding it must have been in one of the high profile journals like Science or Nature, but I seem to have missed it.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • David R

      Michelle: Genetics would be the first ground of supporting evidence of evolution which Darwin did not know.. Looking at genetics, there has been NO PROOF THAT EVOLUTION has provided a better/enhancement or improvement or new species creation... I believe if you ask a simple question.. Where is your proof that evolution has been proven? The relativism argument has been argued and after much stated, it would show up in some evidence.. All fossil evidences of the missing link has all come up a failure... Again, in actuality.. fossil records seems to contradict themselves.. Again, you have to have evolution match and adhere to natural laws (Which is what Darwin is observing about) and it fails on 2nd law of thermodynamics.. That would require much effort for mutation and natural laws "NATURALLY without effort" make changes.. Look, I have not seen 45 or 47 cell human beings that survive and became a higher being.. Nor has any mutation created a self-propagating species (usually, cross-breeds can't reproduce)... At the end, isn't not EVOLUTION that needs to prove the facts?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @David R

      Seriously, do you actually believe what you're writing?

      August 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • David R

      rlj: I am glad you enjoy it but it does not change the argument.. Evolution has not been proven and why it is still a theory... BTW, yes, I check both.. If I am going to make a judgment call... I want to look at all the evidences and "facts"... If I don't, then I am just prejudice and even more ignorant but investigating.. At the end, evolution is a theory that does not hold water.. Just don't.. The evidences they have provided through the decades fail to support the theory but more like contradict or disprove the theory.. At the end, you could make your call and decision but to call Creationists ignorant is foolishness without substantial investigation.. People just have not..

      August 27, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
    • David R

      hawaiiguest: Being a former strong supporter of evolutionist and believer of Creationist, yes... Again, why don't you look at the facts.. Looking historically and even modern time.. You could even go to both sites and look at the evidences (even if you think they are bias or not).. At the end, evolution just don't add up... That is the simple and straight conclusion in my life.. So yes, I strongly believe what I believe.. You could call me crazy if you like but that does not change the facts and evidences that I have seen... Science has been proven to be wrong (again, not in principle but man's interpretation) and this is one of those that people wish to accept as fact but seems to face the natural reality of evolution now... Micro-evolution has not produces macro-evolution.. A species stay within a species.. But not once a species to another species (and the second argument that could reproduce their own species)...

      August 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • David R

      Some sites about what I am referring to (Which I investigated myself): You might be bias since you think it is based on biblical evidences against evolution but the facts are accurate and confirmed in science.. The change is interpretation and evolution can't deny it...
      http://scienceagainstevolution.info/v13i8f.htm (historical and one author trying to make that argument)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yNju1_-CMk ( the very discussion is about the issue that Information theory have a problem with evolution)
      http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread163678/pg1 –> This was a confirmation from my research in genetics (yes, I have worked with DNA sequencing before)..

      August 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @David R

      Well I ask that because for one, you are completely misuing the 2nd law of thermodynamics, since it deals exclusively with a closed system, and while our universe, as a whole, is closed as far as we can tell, the life on our planet is not closed off, and has no problem with specifically heat entropy (ever hear of that thing called the sun keeping us warm and stuff?).
      I would like to hear you respond to this but I do want to put one thing down before that, and that is that this whole micro, macro-evolution idiocy isn't accepted within the science community at large, and is merely an invention of the creationist. There is no micro or macro evolution, there is just evolution.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • David R

      Just found this site and hits my points.. Evolution could be proven to be false without the Bible.. That is the many points I am addressing:

      http://www.ucg.org/science/prove-evolution-false-even-without-bible/

      August 27, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @David R

      Do you really want me to address these things on that site? It's so ridiculous that I couldn't help laugh.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @David R

      I will give my take on those 5 points there if you want, but I just wanted to make sure you actually put it up to have a discussion.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  9. Colin

    I have a friend who works for NASA. He was telling me how the latest photographs from the Hubble space telescope are revealing galaxies in the early stages of formation, from about 13 billion years ago. The discoveries are advancing science at an incredible rate and helping us develop very sophisticated theories of galactic formation.

    Fortunately, I have a creationist friend from who informed me that the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies, each with billions of stars and planets was all created only 6,000 years ago by [the Christian] god with an emphasis on Earth and one man, one woman and a magic talking snake.

    Thanks creationists, if it wasn’t for you, I would believe people like Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawkins. Now, I just read my Bible.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • truth be told

      The snake wasn't magic, Satan entered it.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @truth be told

      You know, I saw the same thing in -Colin's post. I was going to call him on it too, which would prove all the rest of his posting totally wrong. 8O

      Yikes !

      Peace...

      August 27, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • .

      Oh and this Satan made it talk to, just like there was a talking donkey too, xtians are so gullible.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • Observer

      If Satan can teach animals how to think and carry on conversations, he's sure done something God can't do.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • Colin

      - truth be told – well, that makes the story a lot less silly.......

      August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • Dan

      Funny, Isaac Newton was a creationist.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • QS

      "The snake wasn't magic, Satan entered it."

      Sooo....magic! LMAO!

      August 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Momof3

      All religion is magic(k)...

      August 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • IslandAtheist

      @Dan, and a alchemist.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  10. Dan586

    Science is all about theories. Science can be wrong but at least they admit it and keep searching for the truth. Religion we are told is "FACT" and we should stop searching and just take their word for it.

    Science is about smashing locked doors down to see what is on the other side. Religion is about never opening any doors. If there was heaven and I died and God said "Dan welcome to Heaven but see that locked door over there ? NEVER OPEN IT. The first thing I would do is smash it down to see what is on the other side.

    This is the biggest difference between Democrats and Republicans. The best Example of this is "The World is Flat" go to far and you will fall off the edge of the world. Now there was a locked door.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
  11. Joe

    I like this guy but until science can prove that evolution can not only cause a mutation to the DNA sequence, but actually add elements to that sequence, I am good with believing this is just a hypothesis. I understand that evolution can cause the DNA sequence to mutate, but is is causing mutation to that sequence in the evidence of today's reptilian species. We know that their DNA was mutated and they are much smaller than they were thousands of years ago, however the mutation may have reduced their size, but they overall DNA structure did not change. A gator a million years ago is still a gator today. Man simply didn't come from apes. Nice Try Science Guy !!!!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Gary

      I'd love for you to state how human DNA is exactly the same in every human, first. This oughta be good.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • Carlin123

      That still doesn't prove God did it.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • JPX

      That’s utterly ridiculous. Evolution is not a “theory”, you can see it all the time in the animal kingdom. Just change the conditions of a fruit flies’ environment and they will evolve very quickly. Fruit flies only live for 2 months so it is very easy to demonstrate evolution with environmental change. I amuses me that people are so quick to say they don’t believe in science, which is provable, and instead embrace silliness (i.e. religion), which is not. Why people are so afraid let this ridiculous idea of a magical man in the sky I’ll never know. It’s just embarrassing.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • rlj

      "I understand that evolution can cause the DNA sequence to mutate"
      Joe, evolution doesn't cause mutation – it's random mutations that result in evolution through natural selection.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • Michelle

      Joe, you've kind of got it backward. Evolution does not cause changes in DNA, and nobody thinks it does. Evolution is the result of changes in DNA, coupled with some kind of selection (or not, things can be random). Not really sure what you're getting at with the reptile stuff, but the apes of today, including us, are believed to have descended from an ancestoral proto-ape; some of it's decendants became modern apes, some became us. There is no non-supernatural mechanism for a species to just appear from out of nothing, so the best of our understanding, and mountains of evidence says it's evolution or it's magic. Your pick.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • Just another science guy

      This is not meant to offend you, but this statement is completely incorrect. No animal today looks exactly the way it looked thousands of years ago. You can see evolution, or "natural selection" at work everyday. Members of a species who carry a certain mutation or trait that give them an advantage to survive go on to mate while others fall extinct. Sometimes this is manipulated by humans. An example of this is thorough bred dogs. Many species of dogs that exist today were created through inbredding that selected for a desired trait.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • David R

      JPX: Scientists have done that and natural, a fruit fly does not mutate to its environment... Your point was discussed by scientists and it validates that evolution fails and that is why they went to gradualism afterward and the "leap" concept... All mutation to a fruit fly (using radiation) made them sterile and can't reproduce... Added, all the evolution was if anything MICRO and not MACRO... Again, you have to prove evolution in MACRO sense which is what it is based on to create a NEW species..

      August 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Joe

      My point is Evolution exist, yes, can it create a new speciaes through mutation, No. Reptiles today is proof evolution exist, they are much smaller, however their genetic make up is the same.

      The Proto-Type Ape is a theory. No link has ever been found to prove men evolved from a pror-type ape or any other ape for that matter.

      While I agree there are degrees of evolution, to simply believe that man was formed from a pool of muck in these days and times, with our knowledge of DNA and lack of the missing link is just as absurd as believing birds grew wings because they had to or a giraffe neck is long because that specias preferred the braches on top of trees.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • David R

      Just another science guy: Again, when scientists check genetic material on all fossil... They are able to accurate label the bones Horse, Human, Dog, etc without issue... Again, changes with diversify like hair color does not make that evolution... There is a difference and point you are making ... The issue here is MICRO evolution that should change the genetic material (structure, content, etc.) to create a macro-evolution.. Again, there is no proof or evidence that animals were evolving.. That is the core issue.. Scientifically, you have to refute evolution where their own premise and postulates fail to meet up with natural evidences.. Again, a theory TAUGHT IN CLASS as if it is law..

      August 27, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  12. Adrien

    It states in the bible that one day to God is 1,000 human days. So if God built the world in 7 days, doesn't that mean he built the world in 7,000 years?

    Not that I believe anything written in the bible as I'm opposed to what religion does to people and societies, but I'm just trying to understand (although I'm fairly sure that's impossible).

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Adrien

      Sorry, I meant 7,000 days.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • David L.

      Ok, let's assume you're right, 7,000 days. Less than 20 years. Does the story really seem that much more believable?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Adrien,

      most of the fundamentalist 'estimates' are based on starting with the chronology of the 'sons of Adam' in Genesis in the list of 'begats'. There is a lifespan associated with each of the people listed. When you add them all up and start at some generally accepted historical point of reference, you end up with 6,000 years BC.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • David R

      David L: Again, you are making an assumption... We do not know because science tries to explain all things naturally when Big Bang or anything you want to believe (Creation) is SUPERNATURAL.. Secondly, a big misconception of half-life is the assumption that you knew how much material was present initially (half-life is a relative calculating measurement.. This is what stumped as a chemical engineer until I research to see that it assume you knew what you started out with when you don't.. The technique is correct until you need to place an absolution which is where everyone differs)... Again, we don't know and neither does science.. We could assume but half-life does not tell me how much material was started to start the calculation.. If anything, we have to base it on other evidences as much as limited amount in science..

      August 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • Azhar

      An Earth day has been changing it's length since earth was created. So using an Earth day as long term measurement of time is VERY unscientific.

      August 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
  13. Stan A

    Speaking of beliefs...why is it that Mitt Romney is not speaking on the mormon faith. McCain did not want religion brought into the spectrum neither, so could it be that being a morman, makes you a racist. I did research on the mormon faith and black people and all I see is how mormons consider blacks to be evil and of the devil. Does that mean American people knowing this hurts the campaign, I think so.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • ME II

      Sorry, didn't the rest of Christianity think pretty much the same thing for almost 2000 years?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • ME II

      Oh, and the LDS changed its official stance back in the 70's I think.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • Get a clue

      Evolution or creationism aside. I find it hard to belive that the Earth and all the life it has, is a result of some random cosmic accident that formed the perfect environment to start life that evolved to what we know today.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • Who me?

      @ get a clue..But you have no problem believing that something infinitely more complex (your god),simply created himself.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Lucy

      Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN. Abraham Lincoln who freed the slaves was a REPUBLICAN. We are not electing a spiritual leader but someone to get this country back on the right path. Better a Mormon than a Muslim.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  14. Colin

    I have a friend who works for the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia. He was telling me how a new strain of Bird Flu has evolved with a resistance to the strongest antibodies we can throw at it. The best immunologists in the World believe it evolved in parts of India or China where the regular contact between chickens and humans allows easy vectoring to humans.

    Luckily, I have a creationist friend who has corrected me. Evolution is a lie. All life was created in its current form about 6,000 years ago by a Bronze Age sky god they called “Yahweh,” who we now call “God”.

    So, the Center for disease Control will immediately stop researching the evolution of disease and close down, so their researchers can go home and read their Bibles to find a cure for bird flu there.

    Thanks creationists, you have saved the taxpayer even more money!!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • ME II

      While I agree with your general point, please be more accurate.
      "He was telling me how a new strain of Bird Flu has evolved with a resistance to the strongest antibodies we can throw at it. "

      It's antibiotics, not antibodies. Furthermore, antibiotics don't work on viruses which is what Avian Influenza is, a virus. The word you are looking for is probably vaccine.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • anthro101

      He could be right actually. If he did in fact mean antibodies then they are in fact what your body makes in order to defeat a disease. You're correct in that antibiotics work against bacteria, but antibodies do work against both virus and bacteria.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • ME II

      @antho101,
      I stand corrected. Thank you.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  15. c s

    What the religious want is not hold their views and values, instead they want to impose them everyone else. Nothing has changed in thousands of years, the religious feel totally free to impose their views on everyone everywhere. Whether you or I believe in evolution or not does not really matter. After all, the Pope felt so threatened by the words of Galileo that he was prepared to burn him alive and torture him to death. It is part of the religious mind that deep down they have this doubt about their supposedly deeply held beliefs. Because of this fear, the religious everywhere want to control everything that is said about the world. Whether in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia or the US, the deeply religious always feel threatened by the doubt of everyone else. Nothing anyone says will change it. The Founding Fathers of our country realized it and that is why they opposed any state sponsored religion and passed the The First Amendment to keep it from happening. Too bad the Republicans have sold their soul to the religious fanatics in order to get elected.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
  16. Mark

    It takes more faith to believe in the randomness of our existence than creationism.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • Chris Mankey

      Since evolution, geology or astronomy talk about non random natural process it would bet stupid to say that.

      August 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • J707

      "Randomness" as opposed to what? Your phrasing here contains (besides the mischaracterization of physical laws and natural selection as "random") the assumption that all of humankind has some particular agency or crucial purpose in a plan of some kind that makes our existence attributable only to a planner.

      On what do you base that assumption? It isn't enough that you're personally uncomfortable with an unsupervised universe or that you simply don't like evolution and the origins of the earth and its lifeforms that science has been able to retrace and prove. To rule them out you need to have some evidence to the contrary.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  17. David Bell

    Neil Armstrong. A devout Creationist. A great man and a humble loving man. Not a bad scientist as well. Nye, not so much; but his bow tie is cool.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • Truefax

      Neil Armstrong was a Diest, don't slander him.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • ME II

      @David Bell,
      Creationist?
      What's your source?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'Neil Armstrong later professed no explicit religious beliefs'

      a devout what now?

      August 27, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
  18. Valerie

    Actually, as a catholic I believe God created all living things and the universe HOWEVER, I think that the terms of "6 Days" is just to give a frame of reference that each of the things God created (Heaven and earth, plants, tree, animals people etc...) were created IN STAGES and yes, can be supported by the theory of evolution. It was simply put in terms that simple, uneducated people (who of course were the majority) could understand. My humble opinion, of course.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      Valerie, have you read the theory of evolution?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
    • Aaron Flowers

      Why do we have this notion that only one idea will hold up? I believe that we don't really know as a matter of fact where God fits into the theory of evolution, but why can't it all roll together? How about the idea that some great creator got the ball rolling and life evolved. Creationism and evolution probably goes hand in hand together somehow, but I doubt the Bible has it right. The Bible actually keeps us from being able to look at evolution as being a part of our creators great plans.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • J707

      @Aaron:

      Because something like a "god" requires evidence. If you want to posit that an omnipotent, sentient superbeing controls the universe and kicked off the processes that we know to be responsible for the formation of the earth and all its lifeforms, then you need to have some evidence of it.

      Liking an idea or coming to a compromise between two ideas that people like isn't how science works. There are right and wrong answers, and there are explanations that supported by evidence and there are mythological stories that are not.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  19. Jack Kieser

    I love Bill Nye. I'm glad he said this (even though I already knew it) because people really need to understand that religion is NOT suitable or healthy for children. At all. We think it's weird to have "secular humanist" children, or "string theorist" children, so why isn't is also weird to have "Catholic" children or "Muslim" children? Kids can't really understand ANY of the above, so why should we say it's ok for them?

    August 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
  20. Sisyphus

    My primary issue regarding this, is that creationist seem to bring morality into a science discussion. As such, any denial of that belief is a sin – thus all the comments like 'walk with jesus'. This type of belief resulted in scientist being imprissoned for believing that the Earth was round and that it was not the center of the universe. It also resulted in medical studies being agains 'god's will' according to the religiously correct in the 1400's. I don't see this as any different.

    The way I see it, if there is a greater being resposible for 'creating' all of this it is beyond any human's understanding, including those who wrote the bible. Maybe God's Creationist is Evolution. And by not trying to understand that, it is denying us (mankind) a better understanding of God. If God did create everything, how could a man discover something that wasn't part of the Creationist view?

    August 27, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      First tell me why does there have to be a God and then prove it.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • Sisyphus

      That is why I used "if there is". I would like to just end this attack on rational thought – creationism. I believe if you ever attack the underlying beliefs (a priori) of religion that the default response is always 'faith' and that any positive coversation ends.

      Of course, the other really fun conversation is – the GOP now loves Ayn Rand. And her philosophy completely denies any 'a prior' thoughts and with it all belief in religion. So please explain to me how so many American's can claim to believe in Ayn Rand and Religion at the same time? Completely opposite beliefs.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • martin

      Simple answers at gotquestions.org. Complex answers at discovery.org. Young earth Christians have it wrong. The earth is very old. #$%$ Sapiens are recent. Both views are consistent with scripture and science. Genesis 1:2 "But the earth became a wasteland....". God created every living thing. Duh. See intelligent design. Primordial soup, man from ape? Please! Darwinism is on it's way out. Old theory. Doesn't fly anymore. Don't confuse micro-evolution for macro-evolution. Bill Nye is old school and misinformed. There are tens of thousands of brilliant and genius scientists, in all fields of study, who have serious doubts about evolution. See dissentfromdarwin.org.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • Truefax

      TVA – Something external to the universe create it, internal to the known unverse we have E=MC^2 and this conservation of mass/energy means that all of the mass/energy in the universe had to exist since the begining. So there was this ginormous singularity that lost stablity and exploded to form the universe as we know it.

      The question is how did it get there and how did it kaboom? Science can't answer that question (seriously) so something outside our universe had to set it off (as it would have been internally stable like a black hole). I'm not saying that the xchan fairtail book is right but there HAD to be some mechanic to start it all off.

      Now if we (by we i mean the whole universe we) exist in something' version of CERN, and the existance of our universe is a microfaction of a second in their time, or we're the result of a deleberate creation. No one will ever know the answer, but it's always fun to speculate.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • Sisyphus

      So just because science is still trying to figure out exactly how evolution works mankind should resort to the most simplist answer? Because of god. Hmmmm... does Thor still make thunder? Evolution/Life is incredibly complicated. Does that mean we stop trying to understand it? Or just say 'god did it' and end at that? Because Creationism wont accept any theory that deviates from god – whether it is correct or not. Religion should stay out of science, unless science should be in religion. If you only want to believe in things that 100% correct, with proof, I think that religous beliefs would end. Otherwise why would there be so many different types of christianity alone. With eact of those sects believing that the others are all doing it wrong.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Who me?

      .., %99.9 of scientists believe in evolution.%99.9-.Most scientists that deny Darwin are connected to religious organizations.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165

Post a comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Advertisement
About this blog

The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.