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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

soundoff (14,640 Responses)
  1. John

    Creationist, please walk through the Museum of Natural History in Washington and see the fossils that are carbon dated to 250+million years. These creatures were not created 6,000 years ago. God did not make new things look old to fit your theory. Science and knowledge continously evloves. We need bright minds participating in research. We can believe that something beyond our understanding created the universe and we should be in awe. And we can seek understanding of our world at the same time.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • PumpNDump

      Stop that, you're making logical sense. That's not allowed in their bizarro world. Lol

      August 28, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • ME II

      I agree with your point, just one correction:
      "carbon dated to 250+million years." Carbon dating doesn't work that far back, but other forms of radiometric dating do, so perhaps you meant "radiometric dated".
      Your point is still valid, though.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • John

      Carbon dated? Not so much. Carbon dating is used on relatively newly dead creatures (~2000-10000 years old). The older the data, the more of a shot in the dark it is. Most old fossiles are dated by the sediment layers they are found in. The fossile is millions of years old because it was found in this sediment layer. The sediment layer was formed millions of years ago becuase we found these fossiles in them. Circular argument.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Yoko Phel

      Well said, thank you.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • scottbasham5

      carbon-14 dating is only valid for a few thousand years. This cannot be used reliably past about 20-40,000 years, and even then it goes into question. carbon-14 has a very short half life of 5,730 years. The amount of carbon-14 retained in fossils is very minute. I had to laugh when someone said to go "see the fossils that are carbon dated to 250+million years". Wow.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • ME II

      @John,
      There are more radiometric dateable elements that C-14:

      Parent Isotope Stable Daughter Product Currently Accepted Half-Life Values
      Uranium-238 Lead-206 4.5 billion years
      Uranium-235 Lead-207 704 million years
      Thorium-232 Lead-208 14.0 billion years
      Rubidium-87 Strontium-87 48.8 billion years
      Potassium-40 Argon-40 1.25 billion years
      Samarium-147 Neodymium-143 106 billion years
      (http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/radiometric.html)

      August 28, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • scottbasham5

      Carbon-14 is the only reasonably valid test for fossil dating, since we have an idea of the amount of carbon-14 absorbed by living things (based on the amount of carbon-14 in the atmosphere). I don't believe the other dating methods can be used reliably on fossils since you do not have a good idea of the original amount of material.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:06 am |
  2. really

    Again, the "Bible" has proven time and again its accuracy and worth. We need to respect everyone's right to believe as they desire. We can only hope people have the faculties and take the time to understand what is TRUTH. Once they have found this TRUTH, it will set them free. It is not just ignorance that is bliss, but it is also a lack of ignorance that is bliss. Just sayin'.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • Bob

      Read "1984" for a good presentation of your "TRUTH".

      August 28, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • therealpeace2all

      @really

      On the one hand, you you want everyone to 'respect' beliefs. On the other hand you infer that your *beliefs* are *truth* by putting them in all CAPS.

      Your *beliefs* are not necessarily *the truth* no matter how many times you put them in CAPS.

      Peace...

      August 28, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • JamesKPolk226

      I'm all for tolerance of each others' views....but the Bible is, scientifically not "accurate." Most bible scholars will tell you that.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • ME II

      "the 'Bible' has proven time and again its accuracy and worth."
      As Bill Nye is saying, if taken literally, the Genesis version is inconsistent with the evidence that we have.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Proven to your satisfaction only. The criteria which you implement to reach your conclusions do not stand up to scrutiny.. The only reason you accept what is written in the Bible is because you start first by believing what it says is true. Approached with healthy normal skepticism it falls flat on it's ass.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      The bible is not fit for the bottom of a bird cage. Ever wonder why the muslim world is so behind in technology and science?
      Its because of religion. Imagine what this country would be if it were a christian theocracy as you zealots would like. Believe what you wish... just expect to follow in your forefathers footsteps. The Neanderthals.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • nope

      @atheist steve
      Nope

      August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Moo

      The Bible is about as scientifically literate as my cat. And that's an insult to my cat.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • DanW

      @really, my guess is that your acceptance of the bible as truth came first, and your acceptance of evidence of its truth came later. Or, perhaps what you accepted as evidence was simply statements by others of the existence of evidence.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:03 am |
  3. Olivia

    Did you know that the brain makes up nearly 2% of your body weight? Or that there are about 100 billion neurons in your brain – about the same as the number of stars in the Milky Way?
    Explain that Mr.Nye. Don't tell me what's good or not good for my kids.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Olivia

      'Complexity' doesn't necessarily infer that "God did it."

      Peace...

      August 28, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • PumpNDump

      Great, your pathetic kids will be digging ditches and serving burgers. Good to know. Lol

      August 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • bill

      you are an idiot.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      They let you breed? Thats just not right.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • putty

      Exactly what about that do you want him to explain? Yes, scientists have discovered all sorts of amazing facts about the body, the world, and the cosmos. Did you know that we have only a third the number of genes present in a nematode? Cool stuff, and I'm not stopping my kids from learning it.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • AByronC

      So if Bill Nye can't explain this relatively simple question, then that proves that evolution doesn't exist? This is a very bizarre form of logic that I do not understand.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • Simran

      And God was getting bored. So he started to count the stars of milky way. And then he decided he will make the same number of neurons in his favorite creature's brain (Stupid man)!!! Each neuron is representative of a star in the milky way!!!

      Amen! Where can I donate?

      August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • T-Max73

      So you're saying that evolution is such a complex theory that it HAS to be wrong? Because you don't understand the theory? Because the "numbers" are so large that it's easier to throw your hands up and say that your god did it all? Is that what you're actually saying here? That's childish nonsense.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • LIberal

      Totally agree. I'm socially and politically liberal. I believe in God and evolution has not been observed. It does not mean it's not real, but there's plenty of room for doubt. I find it far more difficult to believe in spontaneous generation and the unique uniformity of creation than a God that always existed. And no one on earth has the right to tell us how to raise our children. If we want to raise our children atheist, theist, or to believe in Santa Claus, that's up to us - even if we're wrong. I will no longer allow my children to be influenced by such a xenophobic and hateful individual.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • tallulah13

      Evolution has been observed in laboratories. Generations of bacteria can be traced over a very short period of time and their changes to environmental factors can be recorded. Evolution occurs everywhere, except, perhaps, in the more fundamental churches, where change is frowned upon.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:08 am |
  4. Ken

    Motive is always the prime factor. If you don't want to answer to a higher power, you will search for alternative answers. Can an evolutionist prove thru scientific method that a brand new Toyota Prius didn't evolve?

    August 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • PumpNDump

      Imbecile, don't confuse organic with manmade structures. Facepalm.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • Bob

      Ken, belief in a higher power without evidence, and when the evidence contradicts your belief such as it does for Christianity, is not an "alternative answer". It is cowardice.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • tallulah13

      Nonsense, Ken. Perhaps you lack the personal integrity to be responsible for your own actions, but most people who don't believe in any god do so because there is no proof to support the existence of any god.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • AByronC

      The Prius, and the automobile in general, has evolved immensely since, say the Model T. Have a look and you'll see how the Prius has evolved to fit it's niche. Of course we know that this evolution was promoted by humans but it doesn't really matter. The Theory of Evolution doesn't exclude the notion of God being in control, it just simply doesn't include that factor in it's consideration. Evolution seeks to use what we can observe and measure to create a model and make predictions about the world around us.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • LIberal

      Exactly.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • Which God?

      Ken, are you really that stuppid, to make sucha comment? Let me guess, it took you six years to get out of high school.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Which God?

      Ken, are you really that stupid, to make such a comment? Let me guess, it took you six years to get out of high school.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
  5. maplemale

    "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution"

    A "scientist" who won't explore all possabilities because well... it's just too "complicated". And he says people who favor creationism are holding us back?

    August 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • Mr. Black

      Too complicated? You really have no idea how science works, do you? The reason scientists don't take creationism seriously is because there is no evidence to support that theory. The Bible isn't evidence. In fact, all the evidence they have discovered points to evolution. They aren't looking for "alternatives", they're looking for the truth. Not wanting to answer to a higher power has absolutely nothing to do with it.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • mmp

      They are holding us back if they try to stop teaching evolution in school. Believe what you want but it's faith and not science. There should be room for both.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Gene

      Science has explored the creationism claims but it is hard to prove a negative there is no evidence to support it. Fossil record, carbon dating and now that we mapped the Gnome...all that is in itself is a lot of evidence to point towards evolution.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • cdknorth

      creationism isn't a "possibility". It's wrong. Irrefutably, undeniably, irrevocably. Scientists don't give credence to the idea or explore it for the same reason that one wouldn't stop to consider the possibility that we actually live on Mars and are simply unaware of it. Creationism is inconsistent, entirely inconsistent, with every single shred of physical evidence available to us. To claim otherwise is simply a sad denial. Fortunately, it is exactly that insistence on delusion and denial, and this refusal to accept or adapt to the realities of the modern world, that is causing organized religion in the US to crumble more and more rapidly.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • Kilgore

      "People who favor creationism"

      This is where there is an error in your thought process. There is nothing here to "favor", evolution is fact, it has been proven time and again to be true. There is absolutely zero proof that creation happened. None. This is not a choice, you cant choose which facts are true. Evolution is not a hypothesis, it is a theory, there is a difference, look it up.

      The difference between a scientist and a religious person, is that a scientist has no problem being proven wrong. The truth is the ultimate goal. With religion, suppression of the truth and advancement of dogma is the goal.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • maplemale

      Agreed with mmp.

      Evidence for the origin of life is scarce. Thus, the reason evolution is called the "theory" of evolution. Making a case that we should completely ignore all other theories is coming from a close-minded fearful viewpoint.

      Like Bill Nye just said "your life becomes fantastically complicated." It's the fear of that complication that drives most of the anti creationistic flaming going on here. If you truly had an open mind, you would have no problem with creationism as a theory.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Stacey

      It's hard to stomach that people take Mr. Nye seriously and are using him to reference what they believe. His knowledge is self-limiting, and anyone who is self-limiting misses out on learning experiences and will essentially have less to offer themselves and society.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Lan

      @maplemale Ever heard of Occam's razor? That is what Nye is saying. People who refute evolution have to provide overly complex and miraculous claims to answer the same questions when evolution does it succinctly.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • Sean

      He is saying that the world becomes fantastically complicated because of all the excuses you have to make to explain the huge mountains of scientific data which contradicts your belief.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • maplemale

      I don't think that's what he's saying at all. But let's suppose he is.

      I could say the same thing about evolution. There are mountains of evidence that support a young earth theory of 6k – 8k years. There is mountains of evidence that support a global deluge. There are huge flaws based on assumptions in carbon dating. There is mountains (literally) of misplaced fossil records which have no explanation that evolution can offer. Yet, due to the closed mindedness of the average evolutionist scientists, we are being held back by the assumption that evolution is fact and not theory. The very premise of something being a theory is that it should be questioned until proven to be fact.

      This is a pointless argument to have when you refuse to look at all of the evidence. Go read some books from prominent scientists who lean towards creationism, refute the facts they present, make whatever “excuses” you want, then come back here and argue with me. I’ve spent the last 6 years being indoctrinated into evolutionary theory in secular universities as many of you possibly have. But, I doubt any of you have spent more than 5 minutes researching the facts presented by prominent creationist leaning scientists. Until you have, you have no leg to stand on.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • maplemale

      I have to say one more thing...

      @Lan,
      You are using the term "Occam's razor" incorrectly. It's like saying irregardless when you mean regardless. And it's really annoying.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:57 am |
  6. Religion Divides Science Unites

    Religions constantly fight within themselves and among each other. Each one declares their's is the only way. They cannot live in harmony or come to a common conclusion that they are all the same.
    Science has been using the same scientific principles and methods across the globe, and scientists join hands to seek the answers yet unknown to them.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • Robin DesBois

      Amen! (that was intentional) Faith is defined as a belief not founded on facts. Certain aspects of faith can make a person better, yes - but it can also be incredibly dangerous because it relegates responsibility and reason. Isn't there something more magical, universal, and unifying in the belief that we don't know why or how we got here? It's terrifying but it's incredible. We are all on this earth, together. We're flying through space on this rock at ... ungodly... speeds. Let's make the best of it!

      August 28, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  7. MasonJar

    Bill Nye is an idiot.

    Einstein didn't believe in the Big Bang Theory. Did that hinder him as a scientist?

    It's not necessary to believe in evolution to excel in science or any other intellectual endeavor. The concept of evolution just isn't relevant for solving most problems.

    To claim you can't understand the world if you don't "believe" evolution is silly.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • PumpNDump

      People like you truly are imbeciles who have no clue what you're talking about. I love "flat earth" and "new earth" creationist cretins like you who don't understand science. Evolution is a scientific fact. Accept it.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Whiteman

      I don't think you know much about science, biology in particular. I would liken the importance of evolution to biology to that of the periodic chart to chemistry.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • Simran

      Big Bang is not the theory of evolution!

      August 28, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Which God?

      S'matter masonjar. Bad bacth again? You are no scientist, I'm calling you a liar. You are just another fool who can't chang his viewpoint. You are totally afraid you will go to some hell, and fervently pray you will go to a heaven. Your delusions are scary. You need a god. You learned nothing of science, let alone enginnering.You did, however, learn alot about a mythical story called creationism. Did that come from the Mahabharata?

      August 28, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • putty

      You don't need knowledge of how everything in the world works to function. No one knows everything. But you can't hinder others from learning and pursuing that knowledge just because you don't want to. Einstein was a physicist, not a biologist. We need both physicists and biologists for our society to continue to make progress. Preventing your children from learning about evolution is definitely going to prevent them from becoming biologists.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  8. JDJ

    Belief in creationism, if the world continues to exist, will continue for as long as people believe the Bible. This is a perfect example of how someone so smart (which intelligence was given to him by the God of Creation) can believe in an out and out lie.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Which God?

      I was in a rice paddy, with some other guys, who were looking for your god. Never did find it. Didn't want to in the first place.I knew it could help me if I got shot or blown up. God does not exist.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • tallulah13

      JDJ, "Smart" isn't learning science from your preacher, or from a book written thousands of years ago by men who know relatively little about the natural world. "Smart" is looking at verifiable fact before drawing your conclusions. And frankly, champ, you can't even prove your god exists.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:02 am |
  9. Jon Matthew

    No pee brains listed here; just saying. If you want to see the full list click on this link: http://www.reviewevolution.com/press/pressRelease_100Scientists.php
    A Scientific Dissent on Darwinism
    "I am skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."

    Henry F.Schaefer: Director, Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry: U. of Georgia • Fred Sigworth: Prof. of Cellular & Molecular Physiology- Grad. School: Yale U. • Philip S. Skell: Emeritus Prof. Of Chemistry: NAS member • Frank Tipler: Prof. of Mathematical Physics: Tulane U. • Robert Kaita: Plasma Physics Lab: Princeton U. • Michael Behe: Prof. of Biological Science: Lehigh U. • Walter Hearn: PhD Biochemistry-U of Illinois • Tony Mega: Assoc. Prof. of Chemistry: Whitworth College • Dean Kenyon: Prof. Emeritus of Biology: San Francisco State U. • Marko Horb: Researcher, Dept. of Biology & Biochemistry: U. of Bath, UK •

    August 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Huebert

      Darwin's theory has been more carefully examined than other scientific theory in existence. As a result of this intense scrutiny It has been honed and modified and become one of most widely supported and accepted theories in the scientific community.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • DC

      Careful examination of Darwin's original theories have been taking place for over 100years. Despite this intense examination the theory has only strengthened and solidified as scientific knowledge has expanded. The great thing about science is that it will continue to do so.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Jon Matthew

      Really is that why evolution itself keeps evolving in it's theory in the last 100 years? From slow progression to now sporadic! Reference Stephen Gould.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • CRasch

      Quoting Stephen Jay Gould:

      In the American vernacular, “theory” often means “imperfect fact” — part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus the power of the creationist argument: evolution is “only” a theory and intense debate now rages about many aspects of the theory. If evolution is worse than a fact, and scientists can’t even make up their minds about the theory, then what confidence can we have in it? Indeed, President Reagan echoed this argument before an evangelical group in Dallas when he said (in what I devoutly hope was campaign rhetoric): “Well, it is a theory. It is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science — that is, not believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was.

      Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world’s data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don’t go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein’s theory of gravitation replaced Newton’s in this century, but apples didn’t suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin’s proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.

      Moreover, “fact” doesn’t mean “absolute certainty”; there ain’t no such animal in an exciting and complex world. The final proofs of logic and mathematics flow deductively from stated premises and achieve certainty only because they are NOT about the empirical world. Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us falsely for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science “fact” can only mean “confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional consent.” I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.

      Evolutionists have been very clear about this distinction of fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory — natural selection — to explain the mechanism of evolution.

      http://atheism.about.com/od/evolutionexplained/a/fact_theory.htm

      August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Jon Matthew

      What forced scientists to change their thinking from slow progression to sporadic? That's the really question? And you have to admit that's a pretty big shift in the theory. Hint: false record.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • CRasch

      The theory of evolution explains the observational fact of Evolution.

      Theory doesn't mean guess in the scientific vernacular. Theories are a body of evidence and hypothesis that explain an observation fact.

      Second, Evolution has been observed in both the lab and in nature.

      Third, there is more than one mechanism for species to evolve: natural selection, genetic drift, migration, and mutations.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Primewonk

      Please! Not the discredited and refuted petîtion from the Disco Instîtute again.

      99.95% of ALL relevant scientists in the fields related to evolution agree that the Theory of Evolution describes the diversification of life on earth.

      You might want to google "Project Steve".

      August 28, 2012 at 11:21 am |
  10. Tom Cruisy

    If you're going to teach the Bible's version of how the earth was started, why not also teach the Scientology version where an evil alien impregnated a volcano and then blew it up with a nuclear bomb?

    August 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • richunix

      Could happen, I'm just saying...

      August 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
  11. an0thr1

    What we observe is species going extinct, not species evolving into new species. Bill is an idiot.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • DC

      can you please elaborate?

      August 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • wayne

      Speciation happens all the time. Look up ring speices.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Luke

      Evolution or complex animals can not be observed in the single lifetime of a human. Calling him an idiot shows the extent of your debate skills. To see evolution on a time scale humans can comprehend we only need to look at bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • ReasonableXX

      Apparently, you believe that at some pointin the past, far more animals existed, including every animal that exists today and slowly we have just been reducing the number and variety of animals on the the planet ever since. Makes perfect sense!

      August 28, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • uhh..

      Species going extinct = part of evolution.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:02 am |
  12. Jimmy B

    For all the believers in creationism? I think you should study and have faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There is just as much foundation and support for the Flying Spaghetti Monster as that is available in your belief system. Check out "http://www.venganza.org/about/" for more information on same.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  13. richunix

    BDizzle,

    I went to Athiest.org to check the listing on when the next sermon was and were was the closest church , so I could attend. Sadly I found none, so your point was again?

    Atheism is not a religion nor is it a belief.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  14. Ken

    Scientists constantly change their advice on whether trans fats are good or bad, coffee is good or bad, eggs are good or bad, etc.. How the heck can I believe in evolution that occurred millions of years ago when scientists can't even prove what living humans eat is healthy or unhealthy? They have a fricken working model right in front of their faces and their advice changes every year!

    August 28, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • wayne

      So proud to be so ignorant. So explain the diveisty of life on this planet sans evolution.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Alex

      Can't remember the last time the theory of evolution flip flopped,

      but as to your point, there are no good or bad foods. It all depends on how much you eat and your own body. Eggs would be very good food for underfed people to eat, but not necessarily so for a 250+ lb American. As demographics change, so will dietary recommendations.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Richard

      I believe that is why it's called evolution, things change, people adapt, animals change, animals adapt. What was once good for you may not be now and vice versa.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • Bill O'Reilly

      The tide goes in, the tide goes out. No one can explain that.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Stoo

      ha, ha, ha, ha! So I take it you don't fly in planes or if you were to have an attack of appendicitis you wouldn't go to the hospital because you can't trust science. Let's see what prayer does for you.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • DC

      Talk about disagreement, read Genesis. The Bible cant even get its own account of creation straight.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Ken

      What "proof" do you look for Wayne? Your own intelligent thoughts and emotions should be all that is needed. If your wife dies, do you just think, well, I'll just get another mate to carry on my genes. Or would you feel a tremendous loss? There is an amazing ability for each specie to change and adapt, that is for sure. But God created them according to their "kinds", after that, they adapted to changing weather patterns and certain threats. Simple. The real truth is, we don't know exactly how God created everything. We don't need to know right now. Not everything was recorded in the bible. Some go beyond it and say six creative days. God's days are not as man's so we don't know how long they were. You are battling against false christian beliefs.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Yet you believe in creationism that has no verifiable evidence to back it outside of a book written 2000 years ago by 40 men who never met one another. Pathetic that you can't join the 21st century!

      August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • nope

      @liar prevails
      Nope !

      August 28, 2012 at 10:57 am |
  15. Silent Dogooder

    Bill, I appreciate the knowledge you have and share. It allows me more of a range to base my own opinions on, but don't tell me what's good or not good for my kids.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • Jesus Christ

      And yet...you are telling Bill what to say or NOT say. Interesting and hypocritical.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Jesus freaker

      Keep your kids in the dark. The rest of the planet needs to move forward into the 21st century.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Silent Dogooder

      " Bill, I appreciate the knowledge you have and share. It allows me more of a range to base my own opinions on, but don't tell me what's good or not good for my kids. "

      You appreciate his knowledge, which allows you to have more information in which to base your own opinions... so, why is that not valid regarding your children ?

      It's not like he's stripping you of your own opinions... you still have that choice.

      Peace...

      August 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Silent: Someone has to because you're obviously not capable of raising them properly. You do not have the right to lie to your children...brainwashing them to believe without evidence is child abuse!

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
  16. Turtle

    CREATIONISM RULES!!!!!!

    To the evolution deniers: Just give me ONE fact that proves evolution, just ONE. Don’t reply with a link. Don’t reply with a with a long tirade. Just reply back with a fact that proves your point and I will re-evaluate my opinion.

    Of course, what I’m asking for is IMPOSSIBLE as creationism is the real truth.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • Huebert

      We share approximately 98% of our DNA with chimps, the species we most recently shared an ancestor species with. As you move down the tree of life we share less and less of our DNA with each subsequent species.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Nick-o

      Even turtles have evolved over time, say...except for one

      August 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Jimmy B

      Rules what? The terribly narrow and exceedingly small span of your imagination and mind?

      August 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Turtle

      Huebert,

      Thank you. Well that did it. I guess I was wrong after all. I didn’t think that you all would be able to squash my viewpoint so quickly and easily but you’re all right. I will now change my viewpoint.

      I am not being sarcastic.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      To believe in creationism means you accept incest as being okay. You wanted one fact...look up Lucy-he 3.2-million-year-old ape. With a mixture of ape and human features—including long dangling arms but pelvic, spine, foot, and leg bones suited to walking upright—slender Lucy stood three and a half feet (107 centimeters) tall.

      Recreations based on other A. afarensis skulls later found nearby reveal an apelike head with a low and heavy forehead, widely curving cheekbones, and a jutting jaw—as well as a brain about the size of a chimpanzee's.
      A number of factors point to Lucy being fully grown. For one thing, her wisdom teeth, which were very humanlike, were exposed and appear to have been in use for a while before her death. In addition, the sections of her skull—separated in children—had grown together.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • AtheistRepublican

      First one that comes to mind is bacteria that's evolved to be resistant to antibiotics...Wasn't that hard.
      Your turn, proof that Good created the earth (I won't even ask about how he did it in 6 days) and life on earth? No quotes from a fairy tale.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Turtle

      I admitted I was wrong. There is no need to continue with your viewpoint.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Dude

      Does the fact that you are an id1ot count?

      August 28, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • Turtle

      I admitted I was wrong. There is no need to insult me.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • bqt

      The fossil record...check it out, it will blow your mind.

      PS. THere is so much evidence to support evolution that to call it a thory instead of a fact is ignotant.
      PSS. Don't pull the 'there are gaps' argument, because there really aren't any.
      PSSS Don't use the 'god put fossils in the groud to test your faith' because if you do, I've got a bridge to sell you

      August 28, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  17. amanda

    Right...but telling them they came from apes and monkeys is working out really well for our Country...LOL.

    People aborting their babies, raping and kill one another as if we are all animals. There is a reason God created man and exhaulted man above the animals....we are to be held to a higher standard. We are not apes.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • Huebert

      Actually we are. Genetically we are in the same family with chimps and gorillas.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      amanda: You're not very intelligent!! Your statement proves that! 96% of our DNA is shared with chimps! If you understood a thing about evolution and how it works, you'd understand how wrong you truly are.
      The following is a basic course that any 10 year old could get through...I suggest you study it and get some updated facts: http://sciencenetlinks.com/esheets/history-of-evolutionary-theory/

      August 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
  18. Moderate

    There are plenty of great stories in the Bible for children and adults alike. The only issues I have are when Bible scholars and Churches are adamant in defending every biblical word as fact and try use it as a crystal ball similar to Nostrodamus disciples. Also, they need to update to have women on equal par with men.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  19. steve

    "We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems" hey heres a problem to solve take evolution and prove it. I guess all of us who are creationist cant vote or build things.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • Bill

      You can build things, but please don't vote.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • CRasch

      Hi Steve,

      First, Evolution is Fact. It has be observed in both the laboratory and in nature.
      The SCIENTIFIC THEORY OF EVOLUTION explains the OBSERVATIONAL FACT of EVOLUTION.

      Second, a scientific theory is not just a best guess. It's a body of evidence that has been tested and explains a observational fact.

      Third, there is so much evidence for Evolution that it is the paradigm for all of biology and modern medicine.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • CRasch

      In reality, evolution is both a fact and a theory.

      To understand how it can be both, it is necessary to understand that evolution can be used in more than one way in biology. A common way to use the term evolution is simply to describe the change in the gene pool of a population over time; that this occurs is an indisputable fact. Such changes have been observed in the laboratory and in nature.

      Another way the term evolution is used in biology is to refer to the idea of “common descent,” that all species alive today and which have ever existed descend from a single ancestor which existed at some time in the past. Obviously this process of descent has not been observed, but there exists so much overwhelming evidence supporting it that most scientists (and probably all scientists in the life sciences) consider it a fact as well.

      So, what does it mean to say that evolution is also a theory? For scientists, evolutionary theory deals with how evolution occurs, not whether it occurs — this is an important distinction lost upon creationists. There are different theories of evolution which can contradict or compete with each other in various ways and there can be strong and sometimes quite acrimonious disagreement between evolutionary scientists regarding their ideas.

      http://atheism.about.com/od/evolutionexplained/a/fact_theory.htm

      August 28, 2012 at 10:53 am |
  20. Doc Vestibule

    Not a single Creationist has answered the question I've been posing:
    Why should the Abrahamic creation myth be the only one taken seriously?

    There is a Chinese creation myth that says the ancestors of mankind were the fleas and lice on the body of the God Pan Gu.
    In the beginning, Pan Gu escaped from the great universal egg by cracking it open with a broadaxe. The light part of the yolk floated up and became the heavents while the cold, hard part stayed below to form earth with Pan Gu standing between them like a pillar to keep the separated. When He died, His breath became the wind and clouds, His voice thunder, His eyes the sun and the moon, his beard and hair turned to the stars in the sky, His blood the water. His veins became roads and his muscles fertile land.

    According to Ja.panese Shinto Mythology, at the beginning of time, the heavens and the earths were mixed together in a great cloud. Slowly, the clearer, lighter parts of the cloud rose up and became heaven. The heavier parts of the cloud descended and became an ocean of muddy water. Between the heavens and the earth, a pale green sprout began to grow. It grew swiftly and was extremely strong. When the plant’s flower burst open, the First God emerged. This First God then created Izanagi and his wife and sister Izanami. The First God gave Izanagi the task of finishing the creation of the world.

    The above examples are just as credible as the Genesis account.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • rstrahs

      Valid Points.... I think everyone should have an open mind to all of these as well, since Christianity in it's young form is mostly based on more Ancient Religions such as some of these and others like Hinduism. All try to explain how we exist.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:46 am |
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