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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

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  1. cwa

    Jamming unproven theory down our kids throats in a manner where it is almost always presented as a hard-core incontrovertible fact is the real shame. Interesting how the news outlets never report on the hundreds of scientists who also believe that God had something to do with evolution or who simply bail from the field every single year because the idea that life on this planet, intelligent life, just happened on its own is ridiculous. That's the real sham.
    Besides, Nye isn't a biologist, archeologist or any other kind of scientist related to this field, so why is can giving him so much credibility? He's a mechanical engineer!

    August 28, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      A scientific theory, by definition, is proven.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • mike

      CWA – there is FAR more REAL evidence of evolution than creation. That is indisputable.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  2. justme

    all of the evolutionists here need to go to jw.org or watchtower.org or talk with one of Jehovah's Witnesses. all of the creationists here need to go to jw.org or watchtower.org or talk with one of Jehovah's Witnesses and that should be the last word on this.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Bill's Brother

      You're right. Talking to a Jehovah's Witness would prove that crazy people actually do exist.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • ReasonableXX

      I love the audacity of one religious person calling another person's religion crazy. They are all equally crazy.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Bill's Brother

      Just goes to show you don't know what you're talking about. Since you lump all religions together, your inane statement makes sense to you. Can you see how one religion might be different from another.

      Idiot.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      You guys have tried and failed over and over to predict the end of the world, why would anyone trust you for information on anything?

      August 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Bill

      Your religion is just as much and unproven myth as any other.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
  3. rob

    rob
    What a moron! It is easy for idiots to spout off scientific (so-called) "facts" about events "millions" of years ago, but if you ask one of them to quantify that, in a year by year basis, that is, this star was here, that star was there, they just keep running into trouble about 2012 years ago. Start just aren't lining up the way they thought they should or something, I guess. Jesus said, "I am the bright and morning star". The next time some idiot talks about stuff that happened millions of years ago, I'm going to ask them if they mean millions of years by the Julian or Gregorian calendar. What's that? Huh? You don't know which calendar? There is a reason for that, Jack*ss!

    August 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    Bill T.
    Wrong.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    Wrong? That's all you got? Why don't you try to quantify that, moron? You can't.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses
    Scary wrong even!

    August 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    Anthony
    Well seeing as how the Julian and Gregorian calendars only differ by a few years here and there, I hardly see how that matters. You don't measure marathons by millimeters.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    Mark
    By the way, historical studies have shown pretty conclusively that Jesus Christ was born bout 2018 years ago, not 2012.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses
    rob ... it's impossible to answer since your post is so full in jibberish ... but it's millions of years by the orbiting of the earth around the sun not by the calendar, sheesh, think before you post.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    What do you think a calendar is, moron? It is a chart of what you just described. And there are more than one used in today's society. Which one are you referring to? Millions of year by the Julian, or by the Gregorian? It's a very simple question, but you have not considered it before!

    August 27, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    sqeptiq
    Your post is a perfect example of the arrogance of ignorance.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
    Anthony
    I guess you didn't read my response.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    Bill T.
    OK, I'll play, "... they just keep running into trouble about 2012 years ago ... ", cite just ONE peer reviewed paper indicating that the apparent positions of stars in the sky are not calculable past the year 0 C.E. (your discussion is garbled but this appears to be your claim).

    August 27, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
    A Frayed Knot
    rob,

    Yes, read Anthony's response.

    The Julian and Gregorian only differ by 3 days every 4 years. I don't feel like doing the math, but going back a million years, the difference might be a couple of MONTHS – W.T.F.!! I don't recall any scientific dating that specifies, say, 4.673456249 million years ago such and such occurred.

    August 27, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    Apologies, Anthony. I'm at work, takes me a moment. So, in response, there are MANY people who just don't care where the stars were around the years of 0 to 40. So, what's a few millimeters in a marathon? Not much, until you realize it is the starting line. THAT's my point. You have not considered why time is counted forward AFTER Jesus, and counted backward AFTER Jesus. I would say that the fact that your watches and calendars are BASED on these calendars, would therefore mean that I could rip the floor out of ANY argument you make regarding this world to be more than 5773 years old. But, this post is ONLY for the intelligent, who can understand dependencies, and how crucial they are....

    August 27, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    jennymay
    What a godly person you are in your posts. Idiot, moron and jack@#$. You've got self righeousness down pat huh?

    August 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    There is a REASON they differ by some years. And until you research this reason, you will probably go on believing that these past 60 years have proven the past 5000 years are a bunch of bunk. I mean, honestly, when was the last time you saw a scientific study that took in account for spirits? Yet "spirit" is a word in the dictionary. A REAL word, with a REAL meaning. Not my fault if you don't believe. Just would like to point out that it seems pompous that 5000 years of people believed in spirits existing....

    August 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    JennyMay, those words have meaning. They can be found in any dictionary. Are you my mother? I don't see you pointing out any calendar references..... You are not adding, you are taking away... (and running away, I might add....)

    August 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    squptic, you called me a name and ran away like a child. If you can't quantify your response, good riddance! Again, I ask, "In what way? By which calendar?" And yet again, no valid response. They run from me, like they run from Jesus. Anyone else wanna lip, and then run away?

    August 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    A Frayed Knot
    rob,

    "Delusion" is in the dictionary too... and so is "Fantasy".

    I don't think that people are running away from you for any validation of your credibility in this matter. You just have shown no purpose for this calendar schtick.

    August 27, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    Isn't "schtic" a Jewish word? Hmmmmm...... Don't the Jews say the world is 5772 years old? Hmmmmm..... Wasn't Jesus a Jew? Hmmmmm.... More than one calendar? Hmmmmm....

    August 27, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
    Nissim Levy
    What are you babbling about?

    August 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    They edited my response. Guess it was just too much for them to bear...

    August 27, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    rob
    Bill T, I just sited two of them. Are you also a moron? The Julian and the Gregorian calendars. Then there is the Jewish calendar, the Chinese New year, etc. But ALL of them run into some kind of seeming un-explainable calculation problems somewhere about 2012 years ago, don't they. If I created some tech tv show that stated that this and that happened a gaggle-ga-zillion years or after something else, it would make no sense, because it does not relate to the time at hand, that is, the time on your watch right now, based on some calendar. Which one? Can't tell me? (Oh big surprise), but you think you can spout off "facts" about stuff a million years ago? That is STUPIDITY.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |

    August 28, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Bethany

      rob: false.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • rob

      Ladies and gentlemen, another idiot who claims that I'm wrong, but does not answer the question. That is because YOU CAN'T. You cannot answer the question because I am correct and you are wrong.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • Candice

      rob is an idiot and has an envy problem.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Spawn of Satan

      Just because Europe adopted christianity and then dominated the world taking the calendar with them isn't proof that jesus exists or that creationism has any merit

      August 28, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • Navin R. Johnson

      rob, Here's the deal:

      "I know we've only known each other four weeks and three days, but to me it seems like nine weeks and five days.

      The first day seemed like a week and the second day seemed like five days.

      And the third day seemed like a week again and the fourth day seemed like eight days.

      And the fifth day you went to see your mother and that seemed just like a day, and then you came back and later on the sixth day.

      In the evening, when we saw each other, that started seeming like two days, so in the evening it seemed like two days spilling over into the next day and that started seeming like four days, so at the end of the sixth day on into the seventh day, it seemed like a total of five days.

      And the sixth day seemed like a week and a half. I have it written down, but I can show it to you tomorrow if you want to see it."

      August 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • rob

      Troll.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • rob

      LinCA, that's a lot of talk. But I noticed that you didn't attempt to answer the question. Just another who spouts off, ignores truth, and refuses evidence. Millions of years on which calendar? Duh... buhhh... Di donno? Never taught of dat afore.... uh... you know da one on my wall that starts with the year zero based on someone's life. Who could dat be??? You sound stupid when you don't answer the question.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Time is fun when you're eating flies

      rob,

      Are you having a nice "Tuesday" (named to honor the Norse war god, Tiw (Tyr)) in this fine month of "August" (named to honor Augustus Caesar)?

      August 28, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • Time is fun when you're having flies

      (at least I caught my error in a timely manner!)

      August 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  4. justmetoo

    Do creationists have ANY valid arguements at all? If so, name one.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Bill's Brother

      http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/august/sun-082310.html

      Moron.

      I've never seen such entrenched cases of normalcy bias.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • rob

      yes, above

      August 28, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Spawn of Satan

      How does that article support creationism?

      August 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • wayne

      That article says nothing to suggest the age of the earth would shrink for 4.6 billion to six thousand years old.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • Simran

      @Bill's Brother,
      I read the article. Now please explain how it helps your case?

      August 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • rob

      For those who can't understand, I'll dumb it down for you. It suggests that 5772 (of those millions of years) actually occurred. The rest of them simply do not exist anywhere except in your imaginations. And when you see what you have created (conceived of) I hope you get to rule over all of it.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Simran

      Your argument is just like that of Brahmins in my country who used to scare people that solar eclipse occurs bcoz we made the gods angry and lightning strikes for the same reason. Anything which is not known today is an inspiration to search further, not become stagnant with "Goddit/it"

      August 28, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • LinCA

      Bill's Brother thinks he's found the smoking gun that will cause the scientific approach to be irreversibly damaged. He thinks that by showing that an assumption used in science may not be 100% accurate, he's proven that science is not to be trusted. And of course, if you can't trust science, fairy tales must be true.

      He conveniently neglects to point out that the seasonal variation observed was less than 0.1%, and that the measure variation linked to solar flares was less than 0.5%. He also neglects to mention any studies that show that it isn't quite as clear cut as he would like it to be. Here is a study that questions the whole sun-distance influence on decay:
      http://donuts.berkeley.edu/papers/EarthSun.pdf

      August 28, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • rob

      LinCA, or whatever your name is, that's a lot of talk. But I noticed that you didn't attempt to answer the question. Just another who spouts off, ignores truth, and refuses evidence. Millions of years on which calendar? Duh... buhhh... Di donno? Never taught of dat afore.... uh... you know da one on my wall that starts with the year zero based on someone's life. Who could dat be??? You sound stupid when you don't answer the question. You are RUNNING from my truth!

      August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • LinCA

      @rob

      Jesus H. Fucking Christ! Are you feeling OK?

      You said, "But I noticed that you didn't attempt to answer the question."
      I wasn't answering your question. You are obviously off the deep end. I recommend that you report to your nearest mental health facility and voluntarily commit yourself.

      You seem to claim something like only the 5772 years that some lunatic came up with as the timeline for creation is in any way based in reality. You are completely off your rocker. There are trees that are older than that. Calendars are a human invention (the one in use in the US is a spin-off of the Roman one, with Norse influences). There were vastly more years before the first calendar was invented than have been recorded on any calendar.

      Now, don't get me wrong, you are free to believe whatever bullshit you want. Whatever gets you through the day. Stupidity isn't illegal. You are free to believe whatever you think is in your book of fairy tales. You are free to believe in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus. Just don't be under the illusion that it convinces a rational person.

      You said, "You are RUNNING from my truth!"
      If you had any truth, that might be the case, but since you don't, of course not.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • rob

      LinCa, you have ignored truth, once again. Your wonderful method of dating trees does not hold true in a lab. It breaks down and becomes inaccurate after 2000 years. That's not good enough. Now, I suggest you either come up with some viable theory that holds water, or shut it. AGAIN, I can use my simple Hebrew calendar (not Roman, but the calendar that influenced the Roman calendar and is still in use today by practicing Jews) my simple Hebrew calendar can chart out when all of this "scientific half-life CRAP" came into existence. However, you couldn't use all the science in the WORLD to chart out the beginning of the Hebrews. YOU are based on US. Simple truth. And when your bullcrap ends, we can mark THAT on the Hebrew calendar too. Your precious "theory", is but a blip on my calendar, as is your pathetic atheist existence. All of you. How can you refute that fact?

      August 28, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • rob

      And while I'm at it, Saint Nicolas was a third century catholic priest known for giving his inheritance money to poor, orphan children. Just because your folks didn't tell you the truth, does not mean that he didn't exist. You MORON. You are not 7 years old anymore. Why don't you grow up and recognize the difference between a fairy and a saint. One is real, the other isn't, and if you can't tell the difference, then no one probably ever told you what your little weiner is for either. Moron atheists.

      August 29, 2012 at 7:44 am |
    • rob

      You moron atheists think saint Nicolas never existed? He wasn't always a saint, you know. He was a man. And I've about had it with you idiot morons who can't tell the difference between saint and fairy, or between miracle and magic. If you don't know the difference, then you probably think NEITHER exist, sonyou get what we have here, so grown-up, moron, who never took his head out of the science book to seek real truth, and probably doesn't think spirits or souls exist either. In fact, these poor idiots probably don't even know what a blessing is, or even what the word means, but they are REAL QUICK to start pointing out definitions of words like "theory" and "guess". Well, that's probably what you will end up with in life, a bunch of theories and guesses. And if one more IDIOT asks me again, "which god?", I will still not cease to be astounded that after 2000 years, you still have not received my message. The Lord God, you fools! Many gods, yes. Only one Lord God. Where did you come from? I know where.

      August 29, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • rob

      Now, I'm gonna say this one more time. You are running from my truth. I know the one who created the first tree, and it is not more than 5772 years, 11 months, and ten days old. And that tree is the FIRST tree. First it was created, and then it was made. There is a difference. Who is "making" you right now? You better think REAL hard before you curse me like that again. You are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, the Lord! And except my kindness to point this out, you would get exactly what comes with that! And your next response, if you dare, will determine you eternal future. So, why not do me a favor and lip off a little more, fruity tootie.

      August 29, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • rob

      It's a VERY simple question with a VERY simple answer. Which calendar are you using to say, "millions of years". No such calendar exists because there. IS NO SUCH THING AS MILIONS OF YEARS IN THE PAST! Hence, you CANNOT quantify the statement, "millions of years". And hence it is bullcrap. No such measurement can be linked to any REAL measurement of time. For this link to occur, you MUST say, at 8:26 am, on August, 29, 2012, I discovered that millions of years exist. Do you see that your findings are based on a calendar that is based on the Lord? YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THIS TRUTH.

      August 29, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • LinCA

      @rob

      Get help.

                  ------------------------------------------–
      If there is anyone reading this who knows rob, please get him to a mental health facility.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Rob
      What about culture that don't use the Gregorian calendar?

      August 29, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • nope

      @doc vestibullsh it .
      nope

      August 29, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Rob
      Noah was born 126 years after Adam's death at age 930, which brings us to the year 1056.
      Gen 7:6 tells us that Noah was 600 years old when the flood came, which brings us to the year 1656.
      If the Earth is 6,000 years old, minus 1656 gives us 4,344 years since Noah built the Ark.
      The oldest living tree thus far found (measured by ring count) was a Great Basin Bristlecone Pine which was 4,862 years old. That means the tree was around 400 years older than Noah's oldest son Ja.pheth when the flood happened.
      In California there is a colony of Palmer's Oak trees called Jurupa Oak that has been alive 13,000 years through clonal reproduction.
      Professor Frank Vasek confirmed the age of a Creosote bush in the Mojave Desert known as "King Clone" using two different methods. His project counted rings and measured the distance of annual growth, and then used radiocarbon dating on chunks of wood found in the center of the ring. Both dating methods yielded an age of 11,700 years.
      That makes the plant more than 7000 years older than Noah's flood.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • nope

      @doc vestibullsh it .
      nope

      August 29, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • rob

      LinCa, you chicken. You didn't even attempt to try to tell me why Saint Nicolas never existed or why miracles are not any more real than magic. What fun are you? You didn't even try to tell me why all of mankind (up until the past sixty years) were idiots for believing in God, or why Father Abraham and Noah never existed. Did your parents ever exist? Why not at LEAST tell me why you calendar can't be any good, because it is based on Jesus, and does not have millions of years in the past. Really? You are a liar and a chicken.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • rob

      DocVestibule,
      There are MANY cultures with MANY calendars. And, yes, MANY of those cultures have adopted the Gregorian, due to the oppression of the Catholic church and it's powerful, misinformed saints, and their propagation of lies. In fact, there is only ONE calendar that has a true beginning of time, and that is the Hebrew calendar. All other calendars have a beginning based on someOne's time. My father established all of the nations that way. As such, the one that goes the farthest back, is the Hebrew. All other calendars have a later starting point. That is, sometime AFTER Adam. Perhaps this is a good time to tell you that the USA is not a nation, it's a country. All NATIONS were founded by God. That's why all the people look alike. That is, any pyramids on THIS continent, belong to the non-European cultures. Their starting point is their (IDOL) god. And their ending point is sometime before the end that the Lord God holds, with Jesus. The USA HAS no idol god, so they adopted the Egyptian pyramid on the back of their money, to worship the gods that Moses was delivered from. The USA is drunk with spirits. They know not whom they serve. I hope Jesus has mercy on you people.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @rob
      All calendars have a starting date after Adam?
      What of the Yugabdha sanatan Hindu Calendar that says its the year 1986772928
      And human civilization began 6,000 years ago, how do you explain sites like Cueva de La Pasiega that contain cave painting dating back tens of thousands of years?

      August 30, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • rob

      @DocVestibule.
      Please, please, please. Will you ATEMPT to understand? First of all, I did not say that all calendars start after Adam. I said all calendars EXCEPT the Hebrew Calendar start after Adam.
      Now, a calendar has a beginning and an end. Obviously, you don't know the end yet because you are not there yet. However, I only know of one calendar that has a beginning that is before man existed, and that is the Hebrew calendar. All other calendars are branched off of that chart of time. If it were not so, we would not have a Euphraties river, which we know existed before ANY man, even Adam. ALL other calendars are based off of the life of a man, and those who follow said calendar, look like that man. Myan, Christian, Chinese, all based on the life of a man. Even Hindu. Usually, the author of that calendar is who they look like. So, as you seek out the beginning of that calendar, you will likely start looking like it's author. What was the exact beginning of that calendar you mentioned above?

      August 30, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
  5. Seriously though

    If you can delude yourself into believing one fairy tale, what is stopping you from believing them all?

    August 28, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • rob

      For you MORONS who don't know what a FAIRY TALE is, you probably can't define the difference between magic and miracles either. Yes, little children, the words "magic" and "miracle" actually exist in the dictionary. You can look them up, and when you realize the difference, you can take your "millions of years" and shove 'em! 5772 years is what we got. Get it? And if you are gonna reply, I sure hope you got something intelligent to say, like telling us the difference, because you already look so foolish, it is astounding.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
  6. Bill's Brother

    Come on all you weekend warrior scientists – refute the link below. What's wrong? It's from a valid, well respected University, from well respected secular scientists, who are all "peer reviewed" since that means so much to you. What say you?

    That's what I thought. You see, true scientists, like the guys in the article, can stomach change, even if it rains on their parade. You're nothing but a bunch of secular atheists posing as scientists, or "really smart people." I'm sick of it.

    http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/august/sun-082310.html

    August 28, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Spawn of Satan

      What has that got to do with evolution – all the known facts support evolution and no facts support creationist views

      August 28, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • ReasonableXX

      There is nothing to refute. What's your point?

      August 28, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • anon

      this has nothing to do with evolution. nothing.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • Clayton Colwell

      Uhhhh, even if 100% true, how is this a refutation of evolution? A detection of a small seasonal change in radioactive decay rates doesn't translate in the slightest to "the universe must be only 6000 years old."

      August 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  7. Patriot

    You could go on and on on this topic but it comes down to this. Who do you think Jesus is? Was he just a good guy but a liar or is he the Son of God? Answer that question and your on your way to which direction you go with this article. Just because you believe in God does not mean you don't have an understanding or trust in science. We can create things from materials and substances we have, know of now or discover in the future but if you believe that God is who he says through his inspired word then you believe he created all things from nothing.

    Sometimes in our quest for knowledge we try to make ourselves God.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • ME II

      Or he might have just been a good guy that a lot of people made up stories about.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  8. Wayne Gregory

    Some of the leading scientists of the world got together and summoned God. "God, they said, we don't need you. In fact, we can
    now create life on our own." God than challenged them to a creating contest. God told the scientists to go first and creat life.
    The scientists huddled together and after a few minutes they said the were ready. One of the scientists bent down to pick up some dirt and God said, "oh no, get your own dirt!!!!"

    August 28, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • Pliny

      Wayne....welcome to 'being part of the problem'.

      This 'god' that you talk about....does not exist.

      And until you accept that....you will continue to poison the brains of our children.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • Spawn of Satan

      But which god "owns" the dirt? People believe in 1000s of gods.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • rob

      Awesome, Wayne.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Candice

      Awesome, Spawn.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Some of the leading scientists of the world got together and summoned God. "God, they said, we don't need you. In fact, we can
      now create life on our own."

      God then did not answer....he never does.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • CosmicC

      I'm going to forgive Wayne for repeating such an old joke. I can't forgive the rest who have no sense of humor.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  9. God

    WHY!!!!

    August 28, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Because you wrote a crappy book....

      August 28, 2012 at 11:57 am |
  10. Laura

    God Bless You, Bill Nye!

    August 28, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • ABMiller

      God Bless You Bill Nye. And forgive you. As he will. You're a bloviating fool. But God allows fools. More importantly, in this realm, you don't mean jack squat to me and my family. I will teach them what I want, and allow them to believe what they want. And you and your "tax" motives be damned.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
  11. Gavin

    I remember Bill Nye the Science Guy. Happened to work on a set with him. A guy who came out of the closet and discovered himself. He has been irrelevant for years now since his kid TV show. Looks like he is trying to gethis name back in the limelight. Nice guy, but I'm not sure he is plaing with a full deck.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Truth

      Bill Nye never became irrelevant and has been working to increase kid's knowledge of science for decades unlike organized religion which is attempting to dumb down our children so they can be fooled into repeating the same mistakes as their parents, those of prejudice, exclusivity, hate, greed and ignorance.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:53 am |
  12. CassCass

    Flatfish have a pretty cool evolution.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  13. I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

    I wonder how quickly this topic will hit 10,000 posts?

    August 28, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      It did before 12:20 EDT!

      August 28, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
  14. King Johnny

    This is frankly embarrassing that Nyee has to dance around the fallacy of creationism in relation to hard scientific fact.
    Were the only country in the world, who has to pander to such non nonsensical ideology.

    Congrats to the far/religious right for the dumbing down of America..

    August 28, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • tomparis

      this

      August 28, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Truth

      "Were the only country in the world, who has to pander to such non nonsensical ideology."

      Wrong. Ever hear of a little place called Iran?...

      August 28, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Turkey and Afghanistan rank there with us too. We're not in good company on this. Shameful.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Stephen H (charlotte, NC)

      I risk my life to get away from a communist country because i am not allow to think and speak without permission. Being able to express your ideas is an important part of the great U.S. of A. Love this country!

      August 28, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • sumday

      you want to talk about dumbing down lets go. What are the statistics that intelligent life exist in this universe? Now what are the statistics that the conditions were just perfect for “evolution” to happen naturally and continue from simple creature to complex creature for million to billions of yr? Come on lets compare the statistical results! Notice that life only occurred 1 time in earths history- IE biology show all life shares 1 common ancestor, but if life is naturally occurring shouldn’t there be several different life forms that randomly came into existence and separate (not having any connections) from other life forms? All I’m asking from you is to give me a testable model of random evolution, be able to explain what causes it, and a mathematical model of it. You claim it’s hard science but EVERY field of science requires the things I just mentioned, yet evolution has failed to produce any of them. We have micro observations of mutations, but no macro evidence, explanations, or mathematical model for it. During the same time period that the theory of evolution has been around we have created computers, sent a man to the moon, done heart transplants, discovered quantum physics, proven entanglement theory, ect but evolution still has no explanation for it and no mathematical model of it occurring randomly and naturally. Statistically it is much more likely that we were created by other intelligent life than that we randomly evolved to this state. I’ll even offer observations- humans have manipulated existing organisms dna, created new virus and bacteria, clone animals, and attempt to create new animals- yet simple minded folks still reject the idea that another more intelligent creature might have done the same thing and created life on earth in the same fashion while at the same time acknowledging that there is a strong likelihood of other life existing in this universe- talk about being dumbed down and arrogant.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • palusko

      @sumday If the statistical probability for the creation of less than perfect life is pretty much non-existent, than I wonder what the statistical probability for existence and creation of the absolutely perfect God is... Any statistics on that?

      August 28, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Thale Deletethisofcourse

      "For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution." This is partially incorrect. 'Deep time', as Nye calls it, is technically possible until verse 19.

      "Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years." Likewise, the phrase 'the age of the earth' is misleading. When there is no sun or moon, t difficult to say that 'evening and morning the nth day' was 24 hours, especially sourcing a book that also claims the sun stood still on two occasions to extend a day beyond that (josh 10:13, 2 ki. 20:10-1). In the creation account there is plenty of room for the earth to grow old, just not for the origin of phylums to grow old, and that's where the real contention lies.

      I still have yet to find one scientific benefit of either creation theory or evolutionary theory. I suspect they are philosophies, neither suitable for a primary school classroom. Call me when scientists harness evolution to produce a better refrigerator, or evolve a crow that can solve P=nP.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • CosmicC

      @Sumday – just because you aren't aware of a theory does not mean it does not exist.

      @Thale – No use for evolution? All modern biology is based on this, including the development of many medical treatments. It has allowed us to develop genetically modified crops (let's not debate the wisdom of that move here) and has allowed us all to argue in this forum (just for fun since no one voicing an opionion is likely to be swayed in the least).

      August 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
  15. Stephen H (charlotte, NC)

    Don't get MAD!
    Bill Nye suggests to keep an open mind about everything and you will see other possibilities. don't get lockup in the thinking that creationism is the absolute and stop exploring.
    Heck, if you are a scientologist nut who believe in some form of alien in a vocano controlling your body, that's your choice. if it makes you happy to believe that, go for it.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:45 am |
  16. Greg E

    As a US citizen, I'm ashamed of the rampant ignorance that pervades our nation. There is plenty of solid scientifically-based evidence that various life forms have evolved on Earth for billions of years.

    Accepting the Book of Genesis as absolute fact is pure folly. Genesis mentions several people by name (Noah, Shem) living 700 or more years. Even with today's advances in medicine, it is impossible for a human to live even 140 years, and very few of us reach even 100.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:45 am |
  17. Beam

    So those that believe in creation aren't taxpayers? Wow. None of them work and pay taxes? mmm. I hate to break it to the science guy but there are many in the field of science that also don't believe in Darwin's evolution. What makes this country great is being able to believe differently on all sorts of subjects! 🙂

    August 28, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Beam,

      The scientists who reject evolution are not taken seriously because their rejection is based on religion, not evidence.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:47 am |
    • Spiffy

      I have no idea what you are trying to get at by saying creationists are taxpayers. Also you will find that those who don't think evolution is true are in the small minority within the scientific community.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • ME II

      @Beam,
      Not certain what paying taxes has to do with this.

      As for the scientist who believe in Creationism, the article did specify mainstream:
      "The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced 'The Origin of Species' in 1859. "

      August 28, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • mynamehear

      And apparently one who can't read.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Kate

      Beam, science doesn't involve belief. Please educate yourself.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • putty

      That's part of his point. You as a taxpayer and a voter have the power to impede progress in this country due to lack of understanding of scientific concepts. Science relies on tax dollars for progress, and the purse strings are controlled by the people you vote for. Science also requires an influx of new, educated young scientists, and poisoning American children's brains through miseducation has resulted in cell and molecular biologists being imported from Asia.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:54 am |
  18. Deadlift

    I think God would be highly offended at the suggestion that his planet is only a mere 6-10k years old... just saying.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:44 am |
  19. What does denying Evolution as fact have to do with...

    i am not sure how admitting evolution is a theory, and not a proven fact equates to someone not getting a job in future.

    There are many Christian and or intelligent design acceptors who work in the medical field/science field. Look at your own history Bill. I guess Bill never read up on the fathers of science like Isaac Newton, Johannes Kepler, Robert Boyle, and Galileo to name a few. All of theses guys are on record and in print in defense of their faith and acceptance in a creator of all living things.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • setnommarih

      Look I'm an atheist, but I do not have a problem with people's beliefs as long as they are not hypocrites. Maybe ina afew centuries Bill Nye won't be around either. I believe kids can absorb both ideas and determine their beliefs, I did.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • putty

      Please look up the definition of theory. Were any of these people alive today and involved in molecular biology in addition to physics, they would be amazed at the facts we have managed to gather about the world and probably independently come to the conclusion of evolution by natural selection. They would then be sad that they wasted all this time coming up with said theory because Darwin already published it.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • DC

      Evolution is a scientific theory, not a theory in the sense of the everyday use of the word. In science, a scientific theory is the graduation point of well researched and collaborated facts and evidence that explain something. You are getting your terms mixed up.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  20. Wayne Gregory

    Billions of years ago there was basically nothing. Than over billions of years things began to evolve. Rocks were eventually formed and stars and more matter. Billions of years later cells were formed than more complex cells than life in the form of a man. What in the world would the odds be for human life to eventually come from "the theroy of eviloution?"
    I would say there would be so many zeros involved that mathematically it would be considered "impossible".

    August 28, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • EnjaySea

      You were almost there, Wayne. You had nearly fully described what transpired over those billions of years. But then your inability to grasp how immensely long "billions of years" is, caused you to choke at the last minute.

      The chances of life forming after all that time, were actually quite good. How do I know that? Because it did.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • Saul the Finance Guy

      Wayne, first of all, you need to understand a little about evolution if you wish to disprove it. First of all, rocks do not evolve. A rock remains a rock, may erode, but it does not have offspring, thus evolution cannot apply. The idea of DNA forming is the most "unlikely" chance scenario, but still this does not yet involve evolution. The chances are very very very low, but when you apply the vast amounts of matter in the universe over the entire history of it all, and apply the fact that we have seen organic materials in comets and Saturns moons, not to mention the undeniable evidence that we are here talking about it, those numbers become very likely. Evolution takes place between first cell and current beasties on the planet, including us. Things happen that kill critters. Those who do not die reproduce. If a critter happens to have mutated into something that is beneficial, it could survive better. An example is: Imaging we have a bunch of rats and one that developed wrong, became a super fat rat. It has kids which are super fat. Somehow the fatties still can survive in the world and have fat baby rats. Now imagine we go into an ice age. The skinny rats could die earlier, but the fatties survive. The rat did not evolve fatness to survive, it just happened, accidentally. But it was beneficial, and that rat lived. The animals and people currently on the earth did not evolve so we could survive here. We are only what is left after the universe killed off almost all of us.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Wat

      So, a statistical improbability (that you are admitting is possible implicitly) makes less sense to you than "God did it"

      Where did God come from?

      August 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • Jeremy

      What are you talking about? Evolution doesn't have anything to do with rocks!

      August 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
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