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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

soundoff (14,640 Responses)
  1. Pablog

    Here is the reason why Christians (and myself included) believe in creationism: The Bible is the Word of God, believing just a part of it means that I don't believe that the Bible is the Word of God. Here is a book that describes why the Bible is true http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Believe-Genesis-Charles-Sanders/dp/1603834257/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346174459&sr=8-1&keywords=did+jesus+believe+in+genesis%3F and why evolution is a false theory. Enjoy it!

    August 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • rAmen

      so you believe bats are birds and insects have four legs? also leprosy can be cured by spreading bird blood?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Pablog

      Not sure where you are going to with your questions... any of these premises are stated in the Bible.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Brandon

      @Pablog, he's saying that if you believe that the bible is the literal, inerrant word of God, then you can't pick and choose what parts you want to believe. There is a lot of stuff in the pentateuch that is pretty hard to swallow.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      If that's the word of God, God's stupid. Most of it's untrue. I'd rather assume it was poorly translated.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
  2. Pika

    Trying to convince the existance of evolution to a creationist is like trying to convince an Islamic extremist that women should be allowed to sleep around.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  3. shawbrooke

    Beliefs on how the world began are irrelevant to most people's decisions, and completely irrelevant to kids. If 46% of people in the world's most technologically advanced and free nation don't agree with Mr. Nye, then he needs to think that over. Maybe the fact that people disagree with you (gasp! how can they!!) isn't influential. Why argue with success?

    Kids need loving parents who provide necessaries of life, protect kids, and provide structure and appropriate expectations. Kids do better when the home is stable and there is an extended family and community. Almost any education system that is structured and actually rewards learning will do. A country with political and economic stability is a real support to kids. Better yet is one that also provides health care, education and financial support to the family when parents cannot. Maybe he can work on that if he wants to help kids.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Brandon

      But then you get to one of the problems in our country. There is an over relience on God. Why should the government provide a safety net. If we are a just country He will guide his invisable hand over our economy, and provide us with the means to support ourselves. If we are unjust, well, we have hurricanes.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
  4. Brandon

    Evolution is not a "law" because scientific laws are almost all related to physics. People need to understand that evolution is fact. It is proven time and time again in the fossil record. It is proven in observations of insects. Until people understand this, we are going to continue to fall behind every country in science and math. Creationism does nothing but teach ignorance of science and fact. What type of god do creationist believe in? Do they believe that God put biology, geology, physics, and astronomy on earth just to lead people to hell? If that's the god that you believe in, why would you want to worship it. I'm not a believer, so I would honestly like to know. The mental gymnastics that people have to go thourgh to say that every science, the things that we can oberve here and now are wrong, and that a book written two thousand years ago that has no varification as being historically, much less scientifically accurate, has the answer to everything.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  5. deepthunk

    I think its bad for children to teach them that anything imaginary is real if you believe in it hard enough, that’s why Christianity is like Santa clause for grown-ups.

    My real issue with Christianity however has nothing to do with believing or disbelieving, it’s the fact that churches take the loyalty, money, and volunteer work of the poorest people in the country, then stab them in the back by helping to convince them to vote for politicians that cut the throats of the poor for the sake of the wealthy. These churches do this because their leaders are in fact, themselves wealthy so they’ll always pretend like issues such as “gay marriage” are vital issues for the church while ignoring issues like corporate outsourcing thanks to the sweetheart trade deals our corrupt officials pass with bi-partisan support.

    But all that really means nothing, just two days ago I got into a debate with a Christian who believed dinosaurs went extinct because people ate them. He simply could not understand how fossils could be dated and was just positive that man ate all the dinosaurs, and no matter how hard I tried to explain how sediment layers build up at consistent rates, how radio carbon decays at a predictable rate, how fossils form and why we know this, nothing I told him could convince him that T-rexs did not run the earth in the “time of Adam and Eve”. In other words people believe in these fantasies because 1. They want to believe with all their hearts, and 2. They are simply too freaking stupid to understand why this simply cannot be real.

    I didn’t try to explain why it’s a physical impossibility for two of every land dwelling animal to fit inside one tiny wooden boat.

    Pardon me for being a bit tongue-in-cheek about it, but I really want to get off this planet, theirs a whole bunch of hairless monkeys running around screwing up the place.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Noah_Adams

      Your friend may actually have more scientific evidence than you think.
      Read the following... http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/

      August 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Illegal Memes

      @Noah_Adams

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      August 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • wisdomVS

      He would have lost his mind if you tried to explain fossil fuels ot him. Not to mention the fact that dinosaurs existed BEFORE man arrived.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Noah_Adams

      I can assure you this site is not a virus... it's a reputable source. Something in which you are obviously lacking.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
  6. wisdomVS

    You can't force ignorant religiously fanatical Nascar fans to get an education and expand the brain that they belive God gave them. If they would read the scripture carefully it also says that a day with the Lord is as a thousand and a thousand as a day... which means... time is irrelevant to God. Therefore evolution via a guiding higher power should be their belief.... not a six day creation period. by the way... he rested on the seventh day, which means he didn't stop with us. So, I'm expecting aliens any day now.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
  7. pat

    Teach creationism to your children to help keep the wages high for my children, should they enter a career in science.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
  8. NorthVanCan

    When, (not if) scientists are able to create life from the basic elements on earth, the religious believers will come up with some other ridiculous reason "god exists". You can't argue with a nut job. They can't see past their nose.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Noah_Adams

      How about you try to create matter from non-matter and energy from non-energy? Then we'll see who's God.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • rAmen

      yep, it's that "god of the gaps" thing

      August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • nasa35

      So scientists CREATE life and you're an evolutionist? If scientists have to "CREATE" life how is that NOT creationism?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • Noah_Adams

      LOL interesting comment! I'm just saying creationism account for much more of the big picture than evolution could ever dream of. How do you suppose a matter formed? How do you suppose energy formed?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      "How about you try to create matter from non-matter and energy from non-energy? Then we'll see who's God." That statement makes absolutely no sense. You seem to confuse real scientists with the ones in your comic books.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
  9. mnfolkgirl

    Religion (no matter what religion) exists to explain the things we cannot, such as "Why am I here?" and "What happens when I die?" It used to explain things like thunder and lightening and that we are at the center of our universe. Science has proven what these things actually are and we now accept that lightning doesn't come from Zeus and that our planet actually revolves around the sun and is far from the center of anything. Genesis is a story that explained how mankind wound up on Earth before we understood evolution. To ignore science and claim that evolution is a farce is simply ignorance. If you feel that you still need God to have a hand in how we came to be, give him or her credit for the Big Bang, evolution and for the crazy statistical hurdles we've overcome just to exist. You can't deny the scientific evidence that continuely points to the creation of the universe millions and millions of years ago and evolution of humans from apes unless your intention is for the U.S. to continue to fall behind the rest of the world in math and science and become the villiage idiot.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's evolved Son

      So why am I here? What happens when I die?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • rAmen

      as an actual scientist, it's more important to ask "how things work" than to ask empty meaningless questions like "why are we here" or "what happens when we die". I really, really, really don't care

      August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Jesus

      You are here because your mother could keep her legs closed.
      When you die, you body rots away and becomes worm food.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • mnfolkgirl

      Those are still left up to your own interpretation – I think all of us look at our own personal existance and go, "Whoa!". But, science can certainly give a good theory of how humans came to be – evolution over milllions and millions of years based on the fossil record. It's the "why here?" and "why us" that you can look to your Gods for.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Rodboy

      MN, it would be a great answer but the athies do not and can tell us where matter came from. Their pat answer it has always been here, so why could not have God always been here. Evolution has more holes than cheese, when you ask questions like , how did this happen in spite of the laws of physics, the answer is I do not know. How come survival of the fittest only works now and not during the old times , good question huh.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's evolved Son

      so when i die you're saying I will be worm food that used to know how things worked!

      August 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Rodboy

      MN, it would be a great answer but the athies do not and can tell us where matter came from. Their pat answer it has always been here, so why could not have God always been here. Evolution has more holes than cheese, when you ask questions like , how did this happen in spite of the laws of physics, the answer is I do not know. How come survival of the fittest only works now and not during the old times , good question right.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Jesus

      Yes Tom Tom...your body will be worm food. But your mom's legs will probable still be wide open.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's evolved Son

      Hey, the worms gotta eat...

      August 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • mnfolkgirl

      "MN, it would be a great answer but the athies do not and can tell us where matter came from. Their pat answer it has always been here, so why could not have God always been here. Evolution has more holes than cheese, when you ask questions like , how did this happen in spite of the laws of physics, the answer is I do not know. How come survival of the fittest only works now and not during the old times , good question right." A) All scientists are atheists? How self-righteous of you to think so. B) If you've ever watched even the most simple programs on cable TV regarding the Big Bang, the scientists are the first ones to admit that these are questions they can't answer...yet. Why do you think they built that accelerator at CERN? Because they have an unyielding desire to study and learn more about our world and they know there is a LOT more to physics than what we currently understand. C) I'm not quite sure what you mean about survival of the fittest not working in the "old times". Natural selection is constantly going on and always has been since organisms existed. Those organisms with the most useful traits for survival had the better chance of passing on those traits to offspring and so on and so on. Maybe you meant the opposite and were talking about humans: those humans who aren't so bright tend to reproduce more because their God told them to or because they won't use birth control and now they are overpopulating the planet leading to a loss of natural resources and the ultimate demise of the species due to ignorance.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's evolved Son

      In all seriousness though.. If I say that I believe we were created by a devine being *cough, cough* God and I try to live everyday observing what's around me, learning what I can, and wanting to help others and care for others with what I have learned why does that make me the village idiot??

      August 28, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Truth

      "So why am I here? What happens when I die?"

      According to some Christians, you are here to play a part in a grand game of "Who is the Universal Sovereign?" otherwise known as "Who Get's to Tell Me What To Do?"

      And once our part is played with stakes supposedly as high as "Eternal Bliss vs Neverending Torture" we get to stand up and gamble on who we think should get to tell us what to do. A large majority of the world has already chosen sides between the big deity's that have survived the longest in mankinds imagination, but don't get to find out whether they won or not until after their game is over.

      And the what happens when we die part is apparently far less important to God then what happens when we live.

      Sadly the only winners are the ones who followed their instinct and realized, much like Willow Ufgood did, albeit too late, that the power is in your own finger...

      August 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • mnfolkgirl

      If your belief is that our world is only 10,000 years old because God got bored and magically created all living things exactly as they are today over the course of a week, you are basically calling all the work and discoveries by archaeologists and anthropologists a bunch of baloney. Like I said, no wonder the U.S. is falling behind the rest of the world in math and science. I don't quite understand why the overly religious can't see religion for what it is. It is no different than Greek mythology. Myths weren't created just so we could study them in junior high school and laugh at how stupid the Greeks were for thinking that Zeus was throwing lightning bolts because he was mad at his people. Myths exist for the EXACT same reason the Bible exists – to explain what we don't understand. But, because humans are supposed to be intelligent, we can dismiss some things as we do figure them out...such as evolution over a week of magic. Like I said, if you want to believe there was a divine hand in our creation, fine – but accept that it happened a lot longer than 10,000 years ago.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
  10. Conroebird

    A housefly lives for about 10 days and lays 900 eggs in its life. So you have 900 new flies available every 10 days or 900 X 36.5 = 32850 new flies every year ......from each fly.
    If evolution has been taught here since 1880, that is 132 years. In that time, each fly would've generated 4,336,200 flies.
    Imagine the billions of flies and multiply that by 4,336,200 new flies each.
    Still it is a fly. You would think by now evolution would've allowed it to walk, talk, or at least stay away from my fly swatter. Evolution is harder to believe than God. God shows himself every day to those of us that are willing to believe.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • TheChosenJuan

      That is the stupidest analogy I've ever heard.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • jimbo913

      Holy crap. No wonder you don't accept evolution. You haven't the foggiest idea of how it works. Please educate yourself on a topic before you form an opinion. Here is a hint, whoever has been teaching you this about evolution has no idea how it works either.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • Angel

      You can find evidence that your astrology reading for the day is spot on if you look, too.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Recent work by Richard Lenski has shown new bacterial species evolving in the laboratory. Lenski and his student Zachary Blount note that "E. coli cells cannot grow on citrate under oxic conditions, and that inability has long been viewed as a defining characteristic of this important, diverse, and widespread species." They then exposed several identical populations of E. coli to an environment high in citrate and low in other energy sources. "For more than 30,000 generations, none of them evolved the capacity to use the citrate. … [O]ne population eventually evolved the Cit+ function [a gene that could metabolize citrate], whereas all of the others remain Cit− [unable to metabolize citrate] after more than 40,000 generations." Given that the Cit- trait is a defining feature of E. coli, the population that gained Cit+ could be considered a new species.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Elwood P. Dowd

      "God shows himself every day to those of us that are willing to believe."

      So does Harvey, my 6'2" invisible rabbit friend.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Wow are you stupid!

      A year is still a year. You have no understanding of evolution and what prompts change over time.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • ME II

      Evolution is not goal-oriented, i.e. it is not progress toward some objective. In your scenario, those flies that survived best reproduced more, it's that simple.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Conroebird,

      funny you mention it, but fruit flies have been used to prove evolutionary changes in the lab.

      I don't have references handy, but google is your friend.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • dave

      Wow. That's stupid.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • NorthVanCan

      You don't know much of anything , do you?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • mnfolkgirl

      LOL! We used fruit flies to study genetics in high school. Meaning, 20+ years ago, flies were used to explain how genetics can change a population over time...evolution, natural selection. What decade or century are you living in? Certainly not this one.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  11. ThisLady

    Christians and scientists alike need to realize that The Big Bang Theory and Evolution are NOT the same thing. A LOT of Christians believe in evolution, following the initial creation. There are also a lot of Christians that do NOT believe that the six days were a literal 24 hour period. Which also leaves room for evolution. The statement that Creationism leaves no room for evolution is categorically incorrect.

    And parents are allowed to teach their children whatever they feel is right. No TV science guy, or anyone, should be sticking their noses in it.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Angel

      If it were just parents teaching their own kids, that would be one thing. But this is being forcefully inserted into public education. Sunday school, NOT public school, is the place to learn about creationism.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • ThisLady

      Angel – WHERE did you go to school??? Cause they most certainly don't teach Creationism where I went! That at a little thing called separation of church and state makes it illegal to mention God in school.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Simran

      @this lady,
      The whole debate is about this only – the Christians are trying to get a backdoor entry into public schools by incorporating Creationism into science textbooks!
      http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827833.000-creationism-lives-on-in-us-public-schools.html
      http://gawker.com/5901588/new-law-says-creationism-is-a+ok-in-tennessee-public-schools

      August 28, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
  12. ERH

    Hey Mr Scientist try this little feat of your competence, make a tree from a rock. Call back when you get that one figured out.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • lar9166

      hahahaha what????

      August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • jimbo913

      Hey genius, have god spin the world backwards for a couple hours. Call us when you have that figured out.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
  13. Saul the Finance Guy

    In the beginning, God already existed? So that's not the beginning, right?

    August 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Billy

      They have no response. Well done!

      August 28, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  14. Fred Moore

    Bill: "Creationism", or the belief in an uncaused cause for all that is, doesn't rely on the the pre-history of Genesis. The six-day creation may be laughable from a modern scientific standpoint, but it repersents the scenario of creation to the level of comprehension of those to whom God revealed it. And that incudes us, since we're not inherently any smarter than our forefathers. We know a lot more, but to say that we know enough to dispense with God is just arrogant ignorance.
    I'll tell you what, though. I'll be happy to have our school teachers teach evolution to our kids if they can explain to them in a scientifically valid way how the evolution process works. I don't mean taking for granted things that are totally unproven, like the fundamental process of complex organisms spontaneously emerging from simpler ones. When the teacher can explain away the 2nd law of thermodynamics then we'll have something worth teaching.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      The 2nd law of thermodynamics applies only to closed systems.
      Life is not a closed system.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • ME II

      @Fred Moore,
      "...like the fundamental process of complex organisms spontaneously emerging from simpler ones. When the teacher can explain away the 2nd law of thermodynamics then we'll have something worth teaching."
      I'm not sure what you mean by "spontaneously emerging", but I don't recall that being part of evolution theory.

      Also, Evolution does not violate the 2LOT. For one, the Earth is not a closed system and for another, the 2LOT describes entropy overall, but does not preclude localized decreases.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Joseph Smith, Jr.

      Creationism = religious mythology trying to be science (http://atheists.org/content/creation-science-and-fact-evolution)
      Creationism, far from being a science, is actually a special department of fundamentalist apologetics. Its commission is to defend the biblical book of Genesis, which posits the magical and sudden creation of all forms of life on the planet just a few thousand years ago [1], teaches that all human beings are descended from one pair of white people, and claims that all but one boat-load of the living things on this planet perished in a world-wide flood in the year 2,348 B.C.E. (Before the Common Era). As believers in the literal truth of Genesis, creationists attack any discipline which, in its discovery of truth, exposes the absurdity of the biblical mythology. Despite the camouflage of speciously scientific terminology, the real raison d'être of "creation science" apologetics is the defense of the fundamentalist interpretation of Genesis. Creationism exists for religious, not scientific, reasons.
      (....)
      It misuses the term theory. Creationists either use the term pejoratively ("evolution is only a theory"), or they misapply the term to creationism. In scientific usage, a theory is the highest form of scientific understanding. A theory is an explanatory hypothesis which has passed test after test, and is still the best available explanation of the facts in question. In the case of creationism, however, those components of the apology which can be tested (e.g., the idea that the earth is only six thousand years old and was covered by a shell of water in the year 2,348 B.C.E.) have been tested and found to be demonstrably false – showing that creationism is not a viable theory, because viable theories have to pass tests. On the other hand, those components of creationism which involve certain types of magical events (e.g., the divine creation of a young universe with all of its components bearing the false imprint of great age) make the claims of creationism untestable – making creationism not a theory at all, because theories must be testable!

      August 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Jeez Fred – even fundiot nutter sites like AIG tell their minions not to use the tired old 2LoT argument.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
  15. Take it easy

    I think to deny every existence of evolution is a mistake, however, the first rule of science is that there are no absolutes. This is why eventually the theory of relativity overtook the original theories of gravity. So to rule out God, is beyond ridiculous and against the rules. In all of my religious study, I believe the story of Adam and Eve to be true, but that many of their details are symbolic. Did Satan and the snake ruin God's plan there? Not a chance. Adam did what he had to do. There may be no greater example of the importance of freewill in God's plan than that story.

    That said, science has done amazing things to uncover truths about the way we live. However, the further science goes, the smaller the probability that the universe was created by chance. When the probability gets to be 0.000000000000000, mathematicians start to say the chance is reasonably zero. Any science expert to violate the first rule of science to say there is "absolutely" no creator with the probability of chance being so ridiculously tiny would be to stare logic in the face and lie to yourself.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • ThisLady

      Thank you for your intelligent comment. I am getting so sick of scientist acting as if they know everything. When it is clear that new discoveries are made every day. The fact that they explain away God because he can't be proved is ridiculous. How many things were we unable to explain 100 years ago? How many things are we still unable to explain today? Science is not an absolute.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • Closet Atheist

      Most atheists don't deny the "possibility" of a creator. They just want one bit of evidence to even begin to validate that position. Until then 0.00000000000000000000001 is still a better alternative.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • Jesus

      "How many things are we still unable to explain today? Science is not an absolute."

      ---------------

      Good point...hey I have an idea. Lets make up something that we can save did everything we haven't been able to explain yet. Yea, we'll call this thing God...and I'll pretend to be his son...we could get as rich as Mitt Romney from this idea and then we would only have to pay 14% in taxes.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Take it easy

      I wouldn't say such a small probability is a better alternative. I would think that mathematically, you would go the other way. In business statistics classes, you would definitely say go the other way with your belief even if you have not found direct evidence. Mathematically, you would say we must be looking in the wrong way. Which also makes sense if you think about it. If there is a being who is God who is so much greater than we are – and he wants to be found ONLY in the way he says which is through prayer and a humble heart, then it would make sense that our baby toys we use to detect God will never find him. Thus, statistical probability shows a 99.999999999999999999999999% chance that there is a living creator of our universe.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
  16. ttwp

    "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution."

    He's lost, blind, and has no understanding, which isn't surprising...for the person without the Spirit cannot understand the things of God. Namely that in and through Jesus all things were created and exists. You must become a fool to become wise. Pride will keep you from knowing God...for God gives grace to the humble, but opposes the proud.

    Also, please teach your children the love Christ has for them. The world is lost and doesn't know the love God has for us found in Christ.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • KOOL AID

      I COME IN MANY REFRESHING FLAVORS

      CONTINUE TO DRINK ME

      August 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • max3333444555

      yeah, i can see how nobody could believe the bibles version without blind faith.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • lar9166

      Yes, good idea. Let's all go back to the dark ages, when the only thing we can rely on is an imaginary friend whom we have never seen. We only hear stories from our parents who heard stories from their parents etc. This is what will save us!
      But don't put one foot out of line, for you will burn in hell for all eternity!

      August 28, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    • Jesus

      ttwp, I'm putting you in charge of the collection basket this week. Make sure you rake it in. The Pope has his eye a new peice of expensive art work.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • ttwp

      The above responses prove that God's word is true. Those without His Spirit have no discernment. They are still worldly and speak from the view of the world. No surprise then that those who don't know Jesus heap abuse and mock you.

      But those who trust in the Lord will never be put to shame. I pray that you come to the knowledge of the truth.

      August 28, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
  17. Ndjr

    "Faith is a device of self-delusion, a sleight of hand done with words and emotions founded on any
    irrational notion that can be dreamed up. Faith is the attempt to coerce truth to surrender to whim. In
    simple terms, it is trying to breathe life into a lie by trying to outshine reality with the beauty of wishes.
    Faith is the refuge of fools, the ignorant, and the deluded, not of thinking, rational men.”

    August 28, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • brixtonboyo

      The dictionary defines faith as "complete trust or confidence in someone or something". So what you are saying is that you don't have that (faith) in anyone or anything? Not in your family? Friends? Evolution? Tell me...how is it more likely that an entire, expanding universe; full of intricacies that we have only scratched the surface of on our own planet, came into being completely on it's own (from nothing), than for an intelligence to create it? Doesn't scientific hypothesis take a certain amount of "faith"?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Patrick

      I did not come from some primordial soup, nor did my ancestors!, examine the flawed, conjectured hypothesises that Charles Darwin started-then jump on the wagon as the flight of fancy takes YOU to where ever YOU wishto go-YOU are in control,
      YOU create what you want, the laws of nature are at YOUR fingertips, why YOU can probably create a tree, or fill an ocean-freeze the polar icecaps– Lets all bow to YOU MR. SCIENTIST. YOU have solved the age old questions of the origins of the universe. NOT!!!!! Some questions are simply out of the realm of Human capacity, and I am fine with that. put your faith in science/man or GOD!! I have made my choice, and I am at peace–are you?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • Take it easy

      Some evolution appears to have happened, but if you look at the scientifically agreed upon probability that the creation of the universe was unguided, it is like 0.000000000000000000276 or something. Maybe it can be googled. But when you are that close to zero when discussing statistical probability, it would suggest that the chances of there being no creator is pretty well zero. Thus, someone had to do something. And many of the head scientists suggest maybe aliens. Now who is silly?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  18. hrm?

    At most, evolution is an important discovery that led to what science is today. It is important, just like many other scientific discoveries.

    While that is great, disbelief in this scientific idea does not render you into an incapable member of society, or bar you from being able to raise children the way that you want. That is a moral and governmental issue, not scientific.

    "Science" is the new religon and I am not a believer.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • OOO

      ""Science" is the new religon and I am not a believer."

      You are proud to admit this? OMG

      August 28, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • jimbo913

      argggggggghhhhhhhhh. I hate people. Science is not a f-ing religion. Either you can accept facts or you can't. I know where you fall, but stop it with that hogwash. Science is the very opposite of religion. Science is verifiable, testable, open to replication. Religion is none of these things. Because I believe in what I can see, touch, feel, I don't have to go around justifying my beliefs when they are inconsistent with the evidence.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  19. the light

    all the koolaid drinkers are on this forum and what a dangerous talk to deny th evediance of christ..ill i can say is you will find your way whether its now or at your old age...just remeber that god holds all the peices on this chest bored..so go on convince the world of your anti religious veiws i forgive you all!!

    August 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • wackyjabber

      You're not helping your argument.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Illegal Memes

      You are aware that the term "kool-aid drinker" derives from an event on November 18, 1978 that was driven by religious beliefs?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Greyhound37

      Ah the irony of your choice of metaphors.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • JP

      too bad god hasn't tought you how to spell and use correct grammar

      August 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • max3333444555

      even according to the bible, the snake gave us the greatest gift, knowledge. for his/her efforts she was puniished by god along with adam and eve. why does god consider knowledge so dangerous?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Athiest

      Religion is a social virus with symptoms including loss of ability to critically think, and lowered IQ.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  20. Pika

    It is completely scary and hilarious that the country I live in and the people that surround me every day are so STUPID they will just toss out all scientific studies just to believe some book and so called fake scientist that try to prove creationism. Yes "FAKE SCIENTIST" that try to prove something they want to believe based on spiritual beliefs. They want to find a certain answer a cerain way and will toss out all evidence that proves their beliefs wrong and will piecemeal together bogus discoveries and try to spider web together some complete hogwash and then teach it to kids, it is 100% lies and the ignorant people in this country eat it up and want to believe it so bad so they shut off their brains. DUMB DUMB DUMB

    August 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • Simran

      Yes Pika,
      It is astonishing indeed. And really dumb. I thought problems existed in my country only, but at least the religious zealots on my country do not confuse science with religion. Whatever they do, they do not enter our public schools.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
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