By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."
"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.
Nye – a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" – said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."
"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.
Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.
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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.
For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.
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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.
During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.
Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins
"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.
"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.
Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.
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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.
The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.
"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.
This reminds me of when I was at the park the other day and the sun was peaking out from behind the clouds. It cast rays down and looked beautiful. Suddenly, a bunch of children began running around saying Jesus was coming. Logic would have allowed them to realize it's sunlight, not a mythical creature descending from the sky. All I can do is raise my child correctly...and laugh at the follies of other parents.
again, id rather be wrong and cease to exist, than be wrong and burn in hell for eternity
I wonder do your kids believe in that other mythical creature from the sky t hat comes down every year at christmas? Santa Claus? Or maybe the easter bunny?
Arrogance is a folly also, Katherine. Maybe the children didn't believe that Jesus was returning at that moment, but referring to a future event as told in the Bible.
disgarding basic intelligence and reasoning because a book says you may suffer after death is just silly.
No, I'm pretty sure my child does not believe in any other mythical creature seeing as how he's still developing. And I played along as those kids came up to me, I'm no arrogant jerk. I'm just saying when my child witnesses a natural occurrence, I hope his mind will not immediately explain it as a type of god or prophet figure's work.
Closed minded petty tyrants such as Mr. Nye have successfully pushed G-d out of the public school and thus created a generation populated with teenage berserkers. To paraphrase the father of one of the Columbine victims before a senate hearing – when those children were hiding under the desks as Columbine, there was prayer in the public school that day. We've come a long way since the Scopes trial, but this day was inevitable. The war against G-d has begun.
You can believe in creationism (which is the truth, and still go to hell). So I m going to comment on the heart of the matter. Life's purpose. Here it is: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9
I prefer to think there's more to life than saying some words that have no meaning to me.
Sounds to me like Bill should have stayed in the closet... anyone so blinded as not to be able to see the ARTIST the lord was is just simply BLIND... Children's are GOD'S gift to us and should not be lead astray from the Truth..
be saved from the god that created hell?
I think thou dost protest too much. Who are you trying to convince? Maybe yourself? Life will never be created by man. The wisdom of God is foolishness to those that are perishing. You want to speak in certainties? You will certainly die. When (not if) you find out that there is a God it may be too late. Maybe Bill Nye or some other genius (who by the way cannot even explain their own existence) will save your soul.
Why should I assume that my soul needs to be saved?
Joel – You should assume that your soul needs to be saved because you are in essence turning your back on the God that created you by saying – I don't believe in you and I don't need you – So when you die and you no longer have the amazing grace of God that keeps us all alive here on earth and provides for all of your needs (whether you acknowledge Him or not). All bets are off when you die and have given up your chance to acknowledge that you do need Him. You will have the rest of eternity to try to make it on your own without Him. Without his air – His sun – His life – His blessings – His protection. Not because He doesn't love you but because you chose to live without Him. Pride – the most evil of all sins. It's what caused Eve to bite the apple(the desire to be God – to handle life without God) and it will be the demise of everyone who does not acknowledge their need for a savior and a God. God's grace even allows you to be smug for a season but everyone will have to face Him. No exceptions. Not believing in a bullet rocketing at your skull doesn't negate the effect it's certain to have on it's target. Hope you wake up soon.
Why are atheists so arrogant and unable to accept that some people have spiritual needs and a belief in a higher power? I don't impose my Christian beliefs on anyone but have consistently been attacked by atheists dozens of times over my life.
You need the truth more then a friendly story to keep you warm in bed during the dark cold night.
Religious people can vote and effect the lives of millions, based on half truths and outright lies. The future of the country is effected for the worse by people who essentially believe in fairy tales.
Religion is a social virus, and it must be stopped. The people within it must be saved. Future converts must be stopped.
I understand if you have dedicated your entire life, the truth may be a hard pill to swallow.
We all have fun with our toddlers believing in Santa Claus, but eventually they have to grow up.
I bet, though, if some guy was getting paid to trick our kids into believing theres a Santa Claus, then he'd find elaborate reasons why Santa Claus really did exist, even though he's never around.
Voters can only vote based on their own personal bias. There are atheists out there that will not vote for a LDS Bishop simply because they cannot understand symbolic underware. You sound like the CNN reporters that claim they are the only un biased people on the face of the earth.
Just because believers can see the spiritual side of existence and you cannot does not change their comprehension level. It actually is a more rounded view because their perspective is limited to the materialistic.
No one is treading on your right to believe whatever you wish. I'm tired to death of those of Christians and religionists who keep spouting this claptrap. No one's coming into your home or church or religious-affiliated school and ordering you to stop your religious practices. NO ONE! Yet, militant right-wing Christians, in a most uncharitable and un-Christian manner are working through the ignorant Tea Party and narrow-mnided GOP party to try and legislate morality and take away others' freedoms who do not believe as they do. To wit: Gays, liberals, women, atheists, et al. America WAS NOT founded on Christian principles, despite what the Religious Right has deluded itself into believing. And for you to deny proven science is a folly of the highest order and that folly will continue to lead this country down a tragic, educational path. Our public school education is already ranked lower than 30 among 1st World nations. We can partially thank the Texas Taliban (School Board) and Kansas, for this state of affairs. In my mind, militant right-wing "Christians" (i use the term loosely), are little different in their fanaticism than the radical zealots many Muslim madrassahs turn out. Mark my words, this kind of radical Christianity is the harbinger of disaster for our country and our way of life.
Believers have just as much right as non believers. I assume you personally feel someone is takeing away some freedom you enjoy. The Greeks enjoyed the pleasure of pederasty and decent parents offered up their young boys to these old men for their own social status. That was wrong all the way around and it is a good thing Christians stepped up and put an end to it.
I suggest you search your heart and find out if what you believe is not taking you down the wrong path.
"The good thing about science is that it's true, whether you believe in it or not." – Neil deGrasse Tyson.
It is still known as the "theory" of evolution. Not all theories are true. Believing in creation by God is not denyng the truth of science. When will atheists understand this?
It will always be known as the "theory" of evolution. Much like gravity. Like relativity. Like quantum theory. Scientific theories do not work the way you think they do. "Theory" does not mean "unproven guess."
Joel, good point, but "theory" is also not absolute truth.
Believing in a Creator does not mean you don't believe in science. God created science. People like Bill Nye are trying to compensate for how little they really know by spouting their warped theories as truth. Perhaps hoping to make a name for themselves. Go back as far as you can and you're still left with something that came from nothing. They have no answers for that outside of God and they never will. Why do people who don't believe in God and a higher purpose for human life even want to live at all? Why follow rules, or love anyone, family , children, nature , why make any plans, or value anything at all. They're outlook is dark and evil and comes straight from the pit of hell. Do they all hope that they will figure it all out and invent some way to live forever? I don't get atheists. The only thing that explains their relentless attacks on people of faith is that they want to believe more than us all but they are too arrogant to accept the need for faith. They want to be God. They want to know all, have everything in the palms of their hands and put all things into an explainable box so that it is easily understood. Many of the most stubborn atheists in history have come to their senses and realized that all that this awesome world is can be explained in no other way than it was created. before it's too late, shut your mouth, humble yourself and open your mind.
We need more science advocacy campaigns and supporters and public attention to why science works.
We need people like Bill Nye to be there garnering support for science.
Even if they're not explicitly saying why creationism is bad, it should be saying why science, such as evolutionary science, works and why it's good.
There is no reason to debate, believe as you will. The REALITY is all things evolve. Anything is else is there to make you feel better about dying.
agreed..... even We Christians do no deny that species evolve. We just dispute that evolution is the end all be all beginning of all.
Bill Nye fails to understand (or is pretending not to know) that the discussion is almost immeasurably more nuanced than simply writing off all theists who believe God created everything. Not surprising, but disappointing.
Actually, until you provide some evidence for the existence of your god, the discussion really is that simple.
Steve, you are WAYYYY too stuffy. Open up that collar a bit and get out in the world.
Steve – " . . . fails to understand (or is pretending not to know) that the discussion . . ."
Who's discussion, Steve?
What I find disappointing is that grown adults can see that after centuries of evolution, in which we have grown taller on the average, our brains have enlarged, and technology has altered our everyday way of life... can sit back and say stupid stuff like that.
Steve – " . . . fails to understand (or is pretending not to know) that the discussion . . ."
Whose discussion, Steve?
(word correction by me)
watch out for the trolls Steve. They try to feed on the belief bloggers – must be searching for something more...
"Evolution" only sees the effect, only one part of the picture. In order to fully understand something, you have to take the entire picture into account, which "evolution" doesn't do.
Then please enlighten us o great sage. What does evolution not account for?
Evolution does not account for the following:
Thy shalt drown in a cesspool of religious rhetoric specifically designed to mentally snare the ignorant masses.
Yes, please paint this entire picture for all to understand.. Tard.
Evolution explains everything. You can believe God guided it if you choose, but there is no more proof of a god having a hand in it as there is of Santa Clause having a hand in it.
Brandon... If that's what you really think, then why don't you read the source I've provided.
It is quite disgusting how non-christians claim to be the "superior" person and try to prove their point through vicious attacks. As a fellow scientist and christian, I would not consider myself as "scientifically stupid". Being a christian doesn't mean you believe some of the garbage being created to prove creationism exists. I think believing that God created the world and set it up for creatures to evolve is not that stupid. To those who think attributing scientific results to God is a poor argument, just think about the big bang......it probably happened but where did the atoms come from to create the big bang? Where did the something come from out of the nothing? Many scientists just claim that the building blocks were "just there" in the beginning. Sounds like a just as bad as a cop out.,,,oh wait, perhaps God had a hand.
Here's why you're a bit off. As a scientist, you use facts, evidence, and proof in order to create a process, explanation, theory, etc. You actually use your brain, and critical thinking. But you read one book, that tells you there is a man in the sky and he snapped his fingers and created everything in 7 days and you go "Oh yeah, I'll buy that, without evidence". You cannot claim to be a scientist and a person of faith in the same sentence. A scientists needs evidence. You believe in god because you have faith that the Bible is true, without evidence and without any proof that there is a God...
How exactly do you keep your brain from destroying itself?
Christians are not stupid at all ... just delusional.
Please explain.........In the beginning there was NOTHING.......Then it exploded,
YES! but then things got interesting . . .
NorthVanCan...really?? "When scientists ****CREATE**** life from the basic elements??" That's what creationism is. Do you realize how dumb you are when you are arguing against yourself? Who's the nutwad? YOU.
Scientists replicating natural processes in a laboratory environment != creationism
wow nasa35. a child can go to wikipedia and do 200% better than you just did. lol.
Take a thousand non religious people and a thousand religious people and test their IQ. See which group scores higher, (hint, its not the religious)That will end this debate once and for all.
I can't believe we are having this discussion in this day and age. Ever wondered why we have so many problems in the world today? People are stupid and religious.
What a ridiculouos rant – being a Christian hasn't stopped people from becoming engineers, scientists or taxpayers. Is Bill Nye an atheist? "Your world becomes complicated if you don't believe in evolution" is what he says, and I say, "your world becomes complicated if you don't believe in God." He rests his "beliefs on the IDEA of deep time" – yet another theory which is a belief yet to be proven, so he is accepting it on faith rather than proof, and this freedom of choice is exactly what he'd like to deny to others.
OMG you're not an ACTUAL nurse, in charge of helping people with modern medicine, are you ?!?!
Whether you and they acknowledge it or not, those people have to put aside or ignore their beliefs to properly practice healthcare, else they'd have to follow the violent demands of the bible such as these, rather than actually curing people:
17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”
Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.
Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.
And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.
So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.
Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
Actually, I think most people find non belief easer than belief. Believers constantly have to justify their beliefs to themselves, even if it means rejecting science. Non believers only have to accept the proven science.
People, no matter how me times you quote your preachers, not one of you here truly understands the impossibility of the doctrine that is evolution.
Stop talking about the Bible as if its perceived deficiencies, somehow bolster a useless childish credulity at its best fairy tale that is evolution.
Do keep on calling people stupid, in that way, you are the exact representation of the religious zealots you seem to hate.
Ok, dang, many....
Gravity is also a theory. Referring to explanations for set of facts as theories allows for modifications as sceintific knowledge expands, it does not change the fact that apples fall to the ground, or that lifeforms descend with modification over time, or that the Earth has been dated to be approximately 4 billion years old.
Indeed, I have often wondered why Christians do not oppose the theory of gravity as "just a theory", as it disproves the possibility of Jesus having walked on water. Or, more to the point, why Christians do not willfully ignore the facts supporting the theory of gravity despite it disproving part of a Bible fable, yet willfully ignore the even stronger set of facts proving the theory of evolution because these facts disprove a Bible fable.
Evolution is a strong scientific theory based on evidence and facts. Evolution has been proven. It has also been proven that the Earth is much, much, much older than 10,000 years.
Creationism is religious pseudo-science, not even worthy of being referred to as theory in the scientific sense. It is based on the mythology and religious writings of an ancient desert people who had no knowledge of science. Creationism is more or less a set of mental gymnastics, necessitated by a dogged refusal to accept or admit that anything in the Bible might be inaccurate, untrue, or mythological.
The bottom line is that Bill Nye is right in that American children need to be taught real science, not science that has been amended and censored so as to satisfy a religious conclusion bias.
Gravity is "a theory"? Oh really? LOL, ok go jump off a building and see what happens. Then you'll see whether it's a theory or not.
Can people not discuss one or the other? Discuss evolution on its own merits. It is a silly, childish little fairy tale. Please, not interested in hearing about how much people dislike or disbelieve the Bible, has NOTHING to do with evolution.
it isn't called the theory of gravity – it is the LAW of gravity – it has been tested and proven, hence a law. That is why Jesus walking on water was a miracle. The Big Bang theory and the theory of evolution cannot be proven so they are not scientifically proven laws and are accepted on faith as true by some. Go watch Dr. Horner's TED talk on dinosaurs – what scientists called evolution may indeed be age related changes in far fewer species than those "scientists" had named after themselves.
That's really all you took away from the post? Not the fact that it's referred to as a scientific theory but apples will still fall to the ground? Hows about we mark you down for a reading comprehension class huh?
It's actually a theory and a law. The law of gravity applies to objects on earth and is pretty immutable, however the theory of gravity applies to cosmic objects and theoretically what happens to an object around a large star, or a black hole, or when two galaxies collide, etc....
Your point however trying to state that gravity is a law and so jesus walking on water is a miracle is doubly ridiculous when compared to evolution and its creationism counterpart (though calling creationism a counterpart is a disservice to the word). Evolution has been back up with mounds and mounds of evidence. It's proven creationism wrong at every turn and the reason you don't apply the word "miracle" the creationism is because the church allows you to willfully ignore evolution in favor of another side. You can't ignore gravity, it's pretty damn clear it exists and has effects on just about everything, so you use the word miracle to reconcile the idea that gravity does indeed exist but also jesus can still walk on water.
Sure Bill, but it's useless to explain science to cavemen. They can't learn. Explain Obama's birth certificate to them as a warmup, 'kay? Good luck with that. I never even try, because they have to be taught young before their minds freeze.
It said in the Bible, old to young, rich to poor, good to bad would be fooled. I think Bill Nye is incorrect to think there is no God.
p-z, since you are referencing the Christian book of nasty, AKA the bible, let's take a closer look at the horrors of that book, in both OT and NT:
You are correct... we are likely in the time period of 'revelation' in which the Bible states there will be scoffers in those days.
Where did he say there was no god? You only firm up my belief that the creationist are sub-smart since you can't even comprehend a simple article.
Okay you people who believe in evolutionism how did our universe begin. Some claim it was the big bang. Okay so how did that first little atom decide it was going to become let us say a star. And then where did the other atoms come from to decide upon other living things. According to the big bang, where did the first atom come from. Then when you do things you claim you created something. How can you create anything from nothing.
Also you talk about the Bible stating that God created the world as we know it within six days. Why not. We have to remember that God's time is different than our time. He can do things in a blink of an eye. These are things that we can only have faith in. Does a child question why their parents brought them into the world. The child just know it without question. When you question things like this you are taking away the beauty of it.
When some of you say the Bible should be banned. Why does it scare you. God revealed in the Bible on how things like banning the Bible and such would happen in the End Times. It also states when you take away something from the Good Book things would be taken from you. When you add things they will be added to you. Why do you want to ban the Bible but apparently want to accept the Koran.
If a person wants to believe in God and the Bible and they are doing nothing wrong to you leave them alone. Granted their are many Christians who do not walk the walk of God but that is between them and the Maker/Creator. We cannot see the wind but we can see what affect the wind creates. Does that mean that we should not believe the wind can do what it does. No we just Know the wind is there. Creationism being difficult for a child? Know it is letting them know God is there holding the Earth in its axis. Since Obama took office and declared this nation is not Christian has allowed the destruction of our Nation as it is. One day you will have your day of reckoning and that will be between you and your Maker.
You do understand that evolution in no way tries to explain the beginning of the universe right?... RIGHT?
science fail. evolution (a biology theory) has nothing to do with how the universe begun. try Big Bang/ M Theory/ Zero Energy Model
In the beginning, Pan Gu escaped from the great universal egg by cracking it open with a broadaxe. The light part of the yolk floated up and became the heavents while the cold, hard part stayed below to form earth with Pan Gu standing between them like a pillar to keep the separated. When He died, His breath became the wind and clouds, His voice thunder, His eyes the sun and the moon, his beard and hair turned to the stars in the sky, His blood the water. His veins became roads and his muscles fertile land.
The above is Chinese mythology, believed by many for longer than the Bible has existed.
"Okay you people who believe in evolutionism how did our universe begin. " Get your mommy to explain to you that there is no such thing as "evolutionism." I won't waste time trying to bring you up to high-school level so I can explain grad school stuff to you. Hint: there's no simple answer like "a god did it duh what else" like there is in religion, because scientific inquiries are not a religion.
Evolution and the big bang are not really related. No one knows yet how the universe got here, and the big bang theory is no where near as accepted by scientist as evolution is. But just because we don't know how it happend doesn't mean that we can just attribute it to a diety. Saying "God did it" is too easy, and it will eventually lead to a much more difficult question-where does God come from?
Funny, we have more evidence of the presence of aliens than that of any god. In fact the most likely rational explanation of humankind's fascination with gods is visitation by aliens. wont it be a hoot when Jesus returns and we all get to learn he is a being from another planet in the "heavens". just another conqueror from across the sea with gifts of advanced weaponry and disease, while we welcome him with open arms and awe for his glowing, immortal form made of holograms.
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