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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

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  1. ArthurP

    Genetics Proves Evolution: The Creationist's Galileo Moment

    When chicken embryos start to develop they have teeth buds and the beginnings of multi segmented tails. As they develop their DNA tells the developing embryo to absorb them. Much like human embryo's absorb the so called embryonic gill slits. Now if you turn off the genes that control this absorption instruction you get chicken embryos that develop long multi segmented dinosaur tails and meat eating dinosaur teeth complete with the serrated inside edge. Other studies have also been successful in regressing feathers into scales.

    This is not hypothesis. This is not supposition. This is not interpretation. This cold hard, hold in your hands see with your own eyes type reproducible proof. It has already been done and is doc.umented and reproducible. No DNA was ever added to the bird DNA. This was done using 100% pure chicken DNA.

    August 28, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
    • JesusNotReligion

      Really AP? I have a sof.tware program on a "CD" that was clearly manufactured (intelligently created with form & function) and it some how ("accidentally", in your view?) runs the hardware program on my computer (that was also created – designed & manufactured with form & function)...So, my question for you is: Where did the INFORMATION come from, and WHO put it there? You're NOT going back far enough in the "creation"/"adaptation" process my fellow bloggernaut. Nice try...You'll need more faith than you already have...

      Btw...Christian's believe in "adaptation", which re-writes the DNA code (thanks for the scientific explanation and evidence, if I understood you correctly)...no argument there...(to the best of my knowledge)

      Try believing in JesusNotReligion...He will explain it all to you...believe it or don't believe it.

      "COMMUNICATION" IN ANY FORM, SUCH AS CREATION, LANGUAGE, or MATHEMATICS, EVIDENCES AN INTELLIGENT BEING...

      I CAN HEAR ALL THE "PRO-ABORTION ACTIVIST'S" NOW IF JUST "ONE CELL" IS FOUND ON MARS: "There's LIFE there!, There's LIFE THERE!"

      August 28, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Duker

      So what your trying to say is that using DNA they have been able to make more chickens from the current chickens. That's wonderful.

      August 28, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      @Duker

      If that's your best reply then you're as stupid as they come.

      @JesusNotReligion

      If you know of a way to test for Intelligent Design with quantifiable methods, then science can go about doing that. If you're just declaring that "stuff seems so cool that my invisible sky wizard must have made it with magic spells" then it's just more fairy tale fanaticism. So, what do we measure to determine how "intelligently designed" an organism is?

      August 28, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • JesusNotReligion

      Moby, Moby, Moby...You are full of intelligent design – that's my point. Louded with unexplainable information that demands the logical conclusion that we would use for any "scientifically explainable" form of "communication", as I have been stating in all my recent posts. A simple study on the "human eye" would hopefully floor you...and you can look it up on the web...Just Google somehing like, "The Amazing Eye", then get off the "Schtick" and read it...

      I believe the Bible is credible and reliable for saving faith and practice (i.e. Knowing the One True God of Creation & Loving Him in accordance with His revealed/written will). You are not able to see that truth and cross that bridge out of this "Matrix" of darkness and blimdness into Biblical salvation. I do pray (seriously & whole-heartedly) that God would speak within you "let there be light"...See 2 Corinthians 4:3ff

      JesusNotReligion...A PersonNotaProgram

      August 28, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
  2. Bob Christian (aka: Christian Bob)

    REAL ANSWERS (instead of Darwin Dummy nonsense):
    http://www.EvidenceforChristianity.org
    http://www.GenesisVeracityFoundation.com
    http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org

    August 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • secondchance4u

      Seriously? Lol.

      August 28, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
  3. secondchance4u

    All I could say is embarrassing! How could you live in this day and age and not believe in evolution? Religion has consistently suppressed science, this is just one more example.

    August 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      It is beyond embarrassing, I can't find the right word, the closest would be repugnant.

      August 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • Athy

      It's shameful and embarrassing. The Europeans must be shaking their heads in disbelief. We have to do better in our educational system, but it will be tough with the fundies and vangies so prevalent in our government. All we can do is vote for science-oriented candidates.

      August 28, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
  4. meks

    ... actually, i think my opinion of nye might have fallen for the first time because of this. Why does he feel the need to add to the beating of the dead horse, and furthering the belief that the Rightwing fundies represent the entirety of a complete religion?

    Not.. Not all who believe in creation are New Earth thinkers. In fact – for what i know of my fellow christians, most of us are not [New Earth]. We don't all outright dismiss the big bang. There are a great number who believe in both. yes – some are on the fence about macroevolution, but most completely accept microevolution, and honestly don't see the difference between text book big bang and Genesis' creation story. One says nothing exploded, the other said God Said. Seems like the same idea to me.

    August 28, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Drew

      The problem is that creationism clashes with science, a methodical process that offers knowledge based on evidence. Creationism is also gaining a disturbing amount of momentum and prevents kids and students from actually understanding a fundamental fact of biology. It basically hurts critical thinking and the understanding of the scientific method. If you notice, one of the points Bill was trying to make is that if you choose to believe this, fine, but for the sake of your (everyone's) children's future, my future, and the future of this country, don't teach children about faith and confuse it with science

      August 28, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
  5. J

    Bill Nye needs a history lesson. Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Gauss, Faraday, Maxwell, Lord Kelvin and dozens more of the most noted pioneers of modern science were deeply committed Christians (and believed the Biblical account of creation). They believed that there was order to the universe because it was created by a God of order (not chaos), and they sought to find out what that order was through, astronomy, mathematics, physics, biology and more. We would not have the advances in science that we have today if it were not for these committed Christian men of science. To say that one cannot be a scientist and believe in creation shows nothing but a completely ignorant and arrogant mindset.

    August 28, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • donna

      He said nothing to contradict that. Hey, how did going against the status quo work out for Galileo?

      You don't know what they thought and it's not really relevant given that they didn't have the same evidence or access to information we do.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      The modern equivalents of Copernicus and Newton and the rest believe in evolution wholeheartedly as would Copernicus and Newton if they were alive today and had access to the fossil record and the genetic data. Educate yourself.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • One one

      What is your point ? Yes, believers can engage in science. But it's not a requirement. Religious belief changes with the times because it's all opinion that reflects the times. But scientific facts don't depend on the times, the cultural beliefs and practices, or who is in power at the moment.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Benno Von Archimboldi

      Had they admitted otherwise they would have been executed. It is hardly uprising that they would have been Christians publicly; their lives depended on it. Were they Christians when alone? More likely the laughed at the sniveling fools scraping the ground before the feet of the pope.

      August 28, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Benno Von Archimboldi

      Had those brilliant people admitted otherwise they would have been executed. It is hardly surprising that they would have been Christians publicly; their lives depended on it. Were they Christians when alone or did they they privately laughed at the sniveling fools scraping the ground before the feet of the pope? I'm guessing the latter.

      August 28, 2012 at 8:27 pm |
    • Drew

      These men of science made observations and breakthroughs in fields that they were capable of revolutionizing. If they had the evidence, they would probably also agree with evolution. The key point about this is that evolution is based on evidence, creationism has no evidence.

      Let's not forget about how the church also threatened Galileo and forced him to recant his views on heliocentrism (the idea that the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around). That's one of the problems with man and progress, we often think the universe revolves around us, or was made for us, and it's just so hard to give that up.

      August 28, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
  6. One one

    Not to worry. In a few hundred years creationists will come around and acknowledge evolution is true. Like they did in finally acknowledging the earth was not the center of the universe. But as usual, it will only be when their position makes them look completely unreasonable and stupid. And once again, science will have to drag believers into reality, kicking and screaming.

    August 28, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
  7. Woot

    12000

    August 28, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
  8. foxsoxcox

    I'm floored by the statistic that "46% of Americans believe in creationism". So, almost half of all American's discount the theory of evolution in favor of the thought that a Devine being created the entire solar system (including earth) and all living creatures (in the entire universe) a mere 5,000+ years ago)???? There are hundreds of scientific FACTS that clearly prove the existence of the universe for 100's of millions of years ago. Is half the US population stupid? I guess so....

    I understand the concept of faith, but simply wishing something to be true doesn't make it so.

    August 28, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @foxsoxcox,

      Yup, AND they vote!

      August 28, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
  9. Teacher

    I guess I just live in a bubble. A bubble of intelligent people. If creationism is 'true' because the bible says so then why isn't the Universe being created by Ronald McDonald anymore true?

    August 28, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • Cq

      There have been hundreds of creation stories throughout world myth, why is this particular one any more true that any of the others?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • David Larimer

      These Christians forget that they're only 1/3 of the world's population. There's 2/3 more crazy creation stories out there. Christians have good company, but they're the tail wagging the dog. Actually they're all wasting their time ... and ours.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      ::+::

      August 30, 2012 at 10:34 am |
  10. PRISM 1234

    Man's knowledge profits some, but it puffes up those who pursue it in thinking to gain answers to questions to life's deep mysteries...They will search, but will never find... because they have excluded Him who is the Creator of all that was, is and ever will be. But to KNOW HIM, God our Creator, through His Son Jesus Christ, is THE GREATEST KNOWLEDGE OF ALL!

    August 28, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • Lisa

      Why? Why is this the greatest knowledge of all?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • David Larimer

      bible babble

      August 28, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      Lisa
      Becuse just like a branch of a tree that is withers and becomes lifeless, being severed from the tree which is conected to the root, so is our life without our Lifegiver. Because in Him we live, move and have our beings. And without Him we are empty wessels void of life, the REAL LIFE, which only He can give.
      There is a void, an empty vacuum in every human heart that can never be filled, unless God Himself comes to dwell in it, because He created this void so that only He could fill it to make us complete..
      But man has always attempted to fill this void with many wortless things, only finding disapointmet, sense of emptiness and dispair. To say anything else would be of no avail, unless you really see the meaning of what was arealy said. I surely hope that you do!

      (*If there are spelling mistakes, I apologize, because my spell-check is malfunctioning)

      August 28, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • Lisa

      PRISM 1234
      Using your tree analogy the seeds and fruit must be severed from the old tree for new life to develop. Otherwise all you've got is an old, useless stump. We atheists are the seeds of the new making you part of the deadwood, friend.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:26 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      No, Lisa... Dead branches which are severed from a tree do not bloom, nor do they produce fruit and seeds.They wither and die. You atheists have not the life of God in you, and therefore whatever you produce will be cut off from Life and the true Source of it.
      But that's the problem you atheists have... You don't understand the ORDER OF THINGS Then you have to pretend, there isn't any. Very shallow, even cowardly...

      August 29, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      +::+::+

      August 30, 2012 at 10:35 am |
  11. Luther

    The Galileo affair was a sequence of events, beginning around 1610, during which Galileo Galilei came into conflict with the Aristotelian scientific view of the universe (supported by the Catholic Church), over his support of Copernican astronomy

    In 2000, Pope John Paul II issued a formal apology for all the mistakes committed by some Catholics in the last 2,000 years of the Catholic Church's history, including the trial of Galileo among others

    wikipedia 🙂

    It took 390 years, but the church FINALLY admits the sun is the center of the solar system, not the Earth. Notably then Cardinal – now POPE – Ratzinger did not hold the enlightened view that the church was wrong to persecute brave old Galileo. Tell me again how religion doesn't hold back humanity's progress....? sheesh Last in a line of popular sun gods, get over it and move on.

    peace

    August 28, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      ===+===

      August 30, 2012 at 10:36 am |
  12. XL

    Here's my problem with evolution: If it was so rampant wouldn't there fossil records of it? We have had over 150 years of fossil digging and no concrete proof that I came out of the trees and according to the discovery channel I even went into the ocean for awhile and decided to grow gills and fins and live life as a merman!!!!??? .....and dont even get me started on transitional fossils........so many holes in that I could serve it with a nice red wine....for every argument that evolutionists bring up there is one that debates it. I was raised religious...never forced...at one point I had a conflict in my head so u know what I did...i did research myself. Read alot ....i mean alot. everything from the Koran to Darwin to Einstein do minekompf...and everything in between.....read bible twice as well. U r able to pick apart anything if u search hard enough. Darwin in his later years even questioned everything he wrote which u can decipher how u want....but bottom line is before i go off on a rant is that neither should be taught in school. Thats why this country suffers scholastically year after year cause useless topics are discussed. Someone on here said that evolutionists have been proven smarter then the "others".....u know Hitler had the same reasoning......im just saying:-].....bill nye is an idiot....u know how many things in the bible that were written 4000 years ago are things that mainstream humankind didn't figure out until the past 400 years. Believe or dont believe the bible...but there's alot to be said about the bible....for all the "fairy tail and magic" that it's said to be.....theres alot in there that's been proven to be true too.....but hey according to commenters on this board " im uneducated so i have no clue"...........

    August 28, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
    • David Larimer

      So get educated. It takes some effort.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      So, so, sooooo much of what you wrote is so, so, sooooo wrong. Look it up.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • Cq

      XL
      Name some things that the Bible shows advanced knowledge of?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • XL

      Ok...what part?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
    • XL

      k...the most common one is that the world hangs from nothing

      August 28, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • Cq

      XL
      While Job 26:7 does say “He… hangeth the earth upon nothing.” Job 9:6 actually said previously “He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.” It also reaffirms with

      “When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm.” Psalm 75:3 and

      “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? … Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened?” Job 38:4-6

      So, it's three verses to one. If the Bible authors happened to hit upon the correct answer once why did they go out of their way to contradict it?

      August 29, 2012 at 12:22 am |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      ::+::+::+::

      August 30, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  13. God is the Creator

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videoseries&w=640&h=360]

    August 28, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Creationism is not good for children..

      ..because we want them to be taught the truth about evolution.?!?!?!

      Now prove to the CHILD that the cosmic system all came into existence from nowhere, nothing, no cause, nada, zilch.

      Prove it or Zip it!

      August 28, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      No. Those statements have nothing to do with evolution. Do you also want us to teach children that the space shuttle was made from red solo cups?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      ++.++

      August 30, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  14. hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

    Wheels of Nys brain are stuck in hind mud of hinduism, denial of truth absolute, not ready to accept truth absolute of creation but always trying to justify , not justifiable with facts but with his hindu soul, desire.

    August 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • David Larimer

      Please don't beat me anymore – I laid off my hinduism.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • sam

      More hinds?? Again?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      –+–

      August 30, 2012 at 10:38 am |
  15. One one

    Which army will win the battle ?

    A. The one with the most weapons
    B. The one with the most prayers

    August 28, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • Russ

      @ One One: and what is the battle you're seeking to win?
      a) the eventual, meaningless heat death of the universe
      b) the purposeful redemption of his creation by the God who won through losing on the cross

      August 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • One one

      @russ, the battle that exists in reality as opposed to fantasy.

      August 28, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
    • Chris P

      The One with the most guns

      August 28, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
    • Russ

      @ One One:
      The irony of your position is how confidently you assert your view of reality. We are floating through *space* in an array of star clusters we call galaxies. we can't even see beyond quasars. we have no idea what's out there, how big this place is or what even orients us in existence. we might as well say we're in the "Matrix." But you are supremely confident that all there is to existence is the material, even though you have no idea where it came from? That's not science. That's faith.

      As Nietzsche said so clearly: "it is still a metaphysical faith that underlies our faith in science." (the Gay Science) Do you know what your metaphysical basis is? or are you unaware that your position is self-refuting (the pot calling the kettle black)?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
    • One one

      @russ, I know what I know. The rest I don't know. But unlike science, religions claim to have the answers, when they don't .

      August 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • Russ

      @ One One: but that's exactly what you're doing. you can't have it both ways. either you *know* they don't have the answer or you *don't know*. you can't have your cake & eat it, too.

      you are making a strong statement about what you CAN *know* about reality. that is a metaphysical claim (since it can't be proven). to put it in religious terms: you are making a doctrinal statement. and yet you are trying to say "well, I don't know." that's a fake humility that is actually anything but.

      so do you or don't you?
      if you do, that's a faith (metaphysical claim) – not science.
      If you don't, you can't make exclusive statements about the nature of reality.
      so which is it?

      August 28, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • TR6

      "God fights on the side with the best artillery" Napoleon Bonaparte

      August 28, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      >+<

      August 30, 2012 at 10:39 am |
  16. JBW

    "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." – THIS is patently ABSURD!
    1.) This flies in the face of our most basic liberties
    2.) There have been many Christians through out the ages that have advanced the cause of science
    3.) There are many flavors of Creationism out there, not just YEC.
    4.) Irregardless of the veracity of the YEC position, this is a patetly obvious political and ideological attempt to vilify Christians, conservatives and republicans, et el. considering the timing (RNC, hello!)

    August 28, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • One one

      "There are many flavors of Creationism out there, not just YEC."

      Which one is correct ?

      August 28, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      >>+<<

      August 30, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  17. JayJ7

    Either every physical rule we have ever observed is wrong, or religion is wrong. I bet on the physical world with odds of billions to one.

    August 28, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
    • .

      Pay up!

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      August 30, 2012 at 10:41 am |
  18. One one

    What country is more likely to advance ?

    A. The one that teaches children to believe in science
    B. The one that teaches children to believe in magic

    August 28, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Depends,

      If the magic actually works, well then that country is going to advance A LOT, something tells me though that since magic does not exist, you were going for A.

      August 28, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
    • nojinx

      You cannot prove Harry Potter does not exist!

      August 28, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • fred

      The very idea of magic and wonder releases the mind of a child so that dreams which often become reality through science can lay the foundation. Man dreamt of flying horses long before the airplane became reality.

      August 28, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • fred

      nojenx
      Sorry, the person who made him up is still around to prove otherwise...........next

      August 28, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • One one

      @fred, "man dreamed of flying horses". Nonsense. Don't you think flight may have been inspired by man observing birds ?

      August 28, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • fred

      one
      no, it is one thing to observe birds flying yet another to see a man or horse fly. This is what makes us different than animals. We can visualize that which does not exist in the physical. God would be an example.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      @fred, Imagining how cool it would be if we had flying horses is very different than pretending they really exist.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @fred,

      The shape of experimental aerofoils was developed by examining birds' wings.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
    • Cq

      fred
      Isn't your argument good for demonstrating that God is purely imaginary, like flying horses? It would be great to have a flying horse, or person, just like it would be great to have a God. So, we invent them out of our creativity, right? Some things we can create with our imaginations we can actually construct, like airplanes, but some other things we cannot because we don't have the means, right?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • fred

      GodFreeNow
      In context with the post the advance of our civilization depends on our ability to see something that does not now exist. Thomas Jefferson would say that ability given by the creator is self evident.
      When an individual or collective dreams they reflect the freedom and ability to bring about that which does not now exist. You are suggesting limits on dreams which is not what we have observed over time. Reservations are being taken for the trips to mars in our generation. Is it not better to dream about heaven rather than nothingness at the conclusion of this physical existence?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      @fred, I make no suggestion to limit imagination. I'm an artist. I encourage all kinds of wackiness and outrageous fantasies. I enjoy reading all kinds of mythologies and fantasy stories. The difference is that I don't pretend that it's real or can somehow violate the laws of physics. Personally I have a very healthy fantasy life and I strive to keep it vibrant by letting it go wherever it wants to wonder. Again, that's very different than believing the fantasies are real.

      August 28, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • TR6

      @fred: ". We can visualize that which does not exist in the physical." God would be an example.

      EXACTLY!!! We can visualize that which does not exist. God is an example.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • nojinx

      Just because an author claims to have created him in a book does not mean Harry Potter dose not exist somewhere. If he is divine, why can't he exist in some spirit realm?

      You can't disprove there is a teapot orbiting the moon!

      August 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      **+++**

      August 30, 2012 at 10:41 am |
  19. Robert

    Thank you Science Guy, there isn't anything wrong with evolution that's how we came about. Beside, if the Great Flood destroyed all the people of the Earth except Noah and his family, then creationist should draw a stronger linkage to humans coming from Noah and not Adam and Eve, after all, all of Adam and Eve's children except Noah perished, right?

    August 28, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
    • One one

      Right, because they were all wicked 🙂

      August 28, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
    • Observer

      Right. After the flood, it was all incest.

      August 28, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      Observer, I'm also amazed by god's love of incest. It's really disturbing to think about.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • JesusNotReligion

      Observer...We meet again...If abortion isn't a problem for you surely incest shouldn't be, right? I hope you aren't slipping in and out of a monotheistic worldview whenever it serves your position.

      So, do you think incest is wrong? immoral? If so, why? Fifty years ago hmosxuality was not just considered Biblically wrong but deviant behavior by the majority – Perhaps in another 10 years, given access to blog-info like this one, and bloggernaut's like yourself that seek to negate the Absolute Source of truth behind any and all "truth", morality & love (for that matter), incest will be the norm, and brother's will be demanding their right to marry their sister's.

      "COMMUNICATION" IN ANY FORM, SUCH AS CREATION, LANGUAGE, or MATHEMATICS, EVIDENCES AN INTELLIGENT BEING...

      I CAN HEAR ALL THE "PRO-ABORTION ACTIVIST'S" NOW IF JUST "ONE CELL" IS FOUND ON MARS: "There's LIFE there!, There's LIFE THERE!"

      Lord have mercy before you carry out your full blown justice!

      JesusNotReligion

      August 28, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      @JesusNotReligion,

      So you're saying it's better to have se.x with your daughter than to abort a zygote? I hope the FBI is listening.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • sam

      @JesusNotReligion

      If you like birth defects and inbreeding, well, have at it. Keep them all chained up and try not to let them out into society when you're done, though. We already have the South.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • JesusNotReligion

      No Mr. (or Mrs.....or Ms.) Godfree, who avoided answering my question though not directly addressed to you...What I am saying is that to be free from God (as you think yourself to be) is to, by neccessity, embrace "moral relativism". So, don't YOU be surprised (or appalled) if in 10 years we see the scenario of "incest marriage rights" – perhaps your son screaming for his right to marry your daughter. Strap in my Godless bloggernaut, for you will reap the so called "free society" & "free of God" civilization" that you want...Hence, my ending prayer: Lord have, mercy!

      Now answer my question(s) so we can all see where YOU stand on incest and abortion...and...if YOU will be screaming "There's life on Mars!" if they do find a single cell there...? Trust in Jesus and be free of man-made religion!

      Btw...If God commanded Noah and his family to be "fruitful and multiply", then for those eight who were saved it would not be sin if they obeyed. And if you don't like it, take that up with Jesus (who validated the historicity of Noah and the flood) when you meet HIM...and you will be meeting Him – The Bible guarantees it!

      "COMMUNICATION" IN ANY FORM, SUCH AS CREATION, LANGUAGE, or MATHEMATICS, EVIDENCES AN INTELLIGENT BEING...

      I CAN HEAR ALL THE "PRO-ABORTION ACTIVIST'S" NOW IF JUST "ONE CELL" IS FOUND ON MARS: "There's LIFE there!, There's LIFE THERE!"

      August 28, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
    • .

      http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm

      *+*+*

      August 30, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Sharting on your Jesus

      Some people couldn't think their way out of a wet bag of cat cr.ap.

      August 30, 2012 at 10:51 am |
  20. Jack

    Greetings. Everyone is cordially invited to visit – thestarofkaduri.com

    August 28, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
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