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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

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  1. ArthurP

    truth be told

    So why does God allow atheists to become Pope which are the largest docu.mented mass murderers in the Christian Church. Don't tell me let me guess. He enjoys the killing. Either that or God is an atheist too. Oh wait by definition He must be.....

    August 29, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • truth be told

      the chaff grows with the wheat until the final harvest.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • Huebert

      @Arthur

      TBT is the arbiter of who is and isn't a christian. He is also the ultimate authority on atheist as well. His opinion is never wrong and he is a imbecilic, banal, little sh!t.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      "until the final harvest."

      This is christian terminology for their god ultimatly becoming the biggist genocidal, mass murdering dictator.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • truth be trolled

      TBT was let go for silly behavior at the Pat Robertson Enlightened Fortune Cookie Co

      August 29, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • ArthurP

      the funny this is in doing so he is damning himself to eternal damnation.

      Luke 6:37:

      "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.:"

      August 29, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  2. God is not real

    "with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years."

    I am so sad at this statistic. Nearly HALF of Americans think that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old and we have not evolved one bit.

    Wow......

    August 29, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • ArthurP

      Yea, God is crying in his beer because they just squandered away the intelligence that he gave them.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Granny Gribblegrunt

      You keep your hands off my poor little God! You know He can't defend Himself without us little old ladies behind Him. We'll save you, Jesus! Quick, run away while we beat the atheists with our canes.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  3. Henry

    How do you creationists explain Lucy (Australopithecus).

    August 29, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Huebert

      The devil put it their to fool you.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • truth be told

      The same way Dr Leaky ultimately did. By acknowledging that "lucy " was not what it first appeared to be neither in age or ident ity.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:35 am |
    • Henry

      It has the pelvis of a human. How does this not show evoluation?

      August 29, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • God is not real

      Johanson recovered Lucy's left innominate bone and sacrum. Though the sacrum was remarkably well preserved, the innominate was distorted, leading to two different reconstructions. The first reconstruction had little iliac flare and virtually no anterior wrap, creating an ilium that greatly resembled that of an ape. However, this reconstruction proved to be faulty, as the superior pubic rami would not have been able to connect if the right ilium was identical to the left.

      A later reconstruction by Tim White showed a broad iliac flare and a definite anterior wrap, indicating that Lucy had an unusually broad inner acetabular distance and unusually long superior pubic rami. Her pubic arch was over 90 degrees, similar to modern human females. Her acetabulum, however, was small and primitive.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • Major

      I Love Lucy.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • Simran

      No, she just escaped them, and then made THE LUCY SHOW! God I used to love that show.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Primewonk

      @ Truth Be Told – Any chance you could post the citations to the peer-reviewed scientific papers that support your contentions about Leakey and Lucy?

      It's funny, we keep asking you nutters to post the citations that back up your claims. And each time we do, you fundiots refuse to do so. It's almost like you morôns are just making this crap up!

      August 29, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Primewonk

      @ Truth Be Told – Any chance you could post the citations to the peer-reviewed scientific papers that support your contentions about Leakey and Lucy?

      It's funny, we keep asking you nutters to post the citations that back up your claims. And each time we do, you fundiots refuse to do so. It's almost like you cretins are just making this stuff up!

      August 29, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • niknak

      The nutters will never post citiations to anything that they claim refutes evolution.
      Because they have no citations, or experiments, or data or anything else of any validating proof.
      Evolution is wrong because they say so, period.
      Just like their god. It exists because they say so.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
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    August 29, 2012 at 11:24 am |
  5. Obama = Atheism = Stalin

    The mass murders of the communists may not have been motivated because they were atheists, but it was because of their clear lack of morals and ethics. Christians murdered nowhere near the amount communists did in the 20th century. Its because religious people have moral boundaries and ethics, while atheists lack it.

    August 29, 2012 at 11:07 am |
    • Huebert

      I wish Obama was an atheist, but unfortunately he is a christian, like you. Oh and the "atheist have no morals" is rather trite, try something original.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • ArthurP

      And the Christian Church gave over an entire race of people to be slaves, to be used and disposed of as their Christian owners saw fit, so your point is??

      August 29, 2012 at 11:16 am |
    • Alex

      Don't forget the churches that protect pedophiles and rapists!

      August 29, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • ArthurP

      Alex: But rapists are doing God's work so it is OK, Rick Santorum says so.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • malianel

      The Catholic Cruzades killed an estimated 30 million Muslims in the name of God. The Catholic Catholic Inquisition killed an estimated 20 million people in the name of God. They both killed more people than the Nazis and Communists together.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • nojinx

      Hundreds of thousands of boys felt the morals of religious people from the backside. Religion and morality are two unrelated things. Most of us have our morals 90% set before we can even say the name "Mohammed" much less talk about Judeo/Christian/Muslim ethics.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Fishstorygetsbiggerandbigger

      nojinx is telling fish stories and there is no final amount because it gets bigger and bigger each time he tells his silly story.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @malianel

      While I am happy to refute @truth be told's exaggerations, I think your numbers here are unreasonably high.

      The population of Spain in 1500 was 7 million. The wikipedia page for the Inquisition estimates cases handled by the inquisition at 150,000 resulting in perhaps 5,000 deaths. Certainly the inquisition tortured and killed in the name of religion, but I don;t think you can substantiate 20 million deaths.

      This number is as ludicrous as the 800 million deaths @truth be told attributes to Mao.

      I haven't looked into your number of 30M for the Crusades, but this seems unrealistically high as well.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Are you saying that Christians are more moral because they've killed less people than communists? That's one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in a while because A) the statistic is untrue and more importantly B) saying you've killed less people makes you more moral is akin to saying you've stolen less stuff than the other guy so that makes you honorable.

      Please reread your statement and understand that arguing who has killed more tacitly implies that you've accepted murder but just not a lot of murder.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • nojinx

      I think this commented is impeded by the handicap of partisanship. Religion is the best antidote for critical thinking, but political partisanship is a close second.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • donna

      Atheists don't need to fear a god's wrath if they hurt others to be moral. But it sounds like Christians are all really wanting to murder and steal but only hold back because they're afraid of getting into trouble.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      You DO realize that Hitler believed he was working in line with the desires of God, right? A cursory search of Hilter's writings in Mein Kampf as well as his speeches to the Reichstag makes this abundantly clear. So while Atheist loons don't kill because of Atheism, Christian and Muslim loons CLEARLY believe they are doing God's work.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      "religious people have moral boundaries and ethics, while atheists lack it" And yet it is you, the "Religious guy," calling us names for no special reason. When you say I have no moral boundaries and ethics, although you do not know me at all and have no basis to judge, you are demonstrating that it is you who have no morals or ethics. I bet you could go on for an hour about Rev. Wright, and then turn around and call Obama an atheist, and then wonder why we have little or no respect for the effect your god has on you.

      August 29, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  6. Atheism is the natural state of all living things

    To believe in something that has no evidence requires a form of oppression born of the mind.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • donna

      To believe in something that has no evidence is crucial to human success. Our ability to learn this way is why we have these computers and homes and medicine. If we had to learn everything from direct experience we wouldn't have the technology and understanding of things like evolution that we do.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  7. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    August 29, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • TROLL ALERT

      Please don't feed it.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • Atheism is Healthy for Kids and Grown-Ups Too!

      I see that idiot girl put extra bath salts in her coffee this morning. my goodness.

      It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. Teaching kids to be agnostic helps reinforce their understanding of the new real things they can see and learn about in life. It helps them properly separate the known from the unknown without confusing them. They just need to be taught things that are unknown, like god, and things that are made up, like all religion.

      Atheists have strong minds, and don't run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, disserving society).

      We have only begun to scratch the surface in using the mind to its maximum. Damaging it with made-up junk that politicians and salesmen dreamed up long ago is senseless, and limits the mind's potential. These politicians and charlatans didn't even do a good job of organizing and being consistent with the stuff they dreamt up to try to control people. Daddy used to say they were caught with their pants down when the bible was first translated so that common folk could read it. Very true.

      Instead of praying to make-believe people, get a good cup of tea and go on and sit down and collect your damn thoughts. My goodness.

      mama kindless

      August 29, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  8. ArthurP

    An Atheist is someone who has the strength of character to do the right thing without the threat of divine retribution hanging over them.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • truth be told

      An atheist like Joe Stalin who tortured murdered more than 24 million innocent people.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • WASP

      @ never telling the truth: how many times do we have to go over this you little sticking troll, stalin, mao, pot, hitler all the ones that you religious freaks like to try and use as "tokens of athiest evil" fail to realize a couple things
      1) start from the years 330C.E. and move forward through real history of the church they have wiped out whole countries, billions of people sacrificed to your war god.
      2) each of those people your war popes and the likes of stalin did all that for power and control, not for any god or lack there of, they killed for themselves!
      3) oh yeah almost forgot the most important thing NONE OF THOSE GUYS WERE ATHEIST AND WE HAVE NO DOGMA TO FOLLOW THAT WOULD LEAD US TO COMMIT SUCH AN ACT!.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • Primewonk

      Truth – Why do you nutters lie? He didn't kill folks because he was an atheist. He killed because he was a power-maad despot.

      You might as well claim that Stalin killed because he was right-handed, therefore all right-handed people are evil.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • ArthurP

      truth be told:

      And the Christian Church gave over an entire race of people to be slaves, so your point is??

      August 29, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • truth be told

      Better a slave to Christ than a corpse created by an atheist.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • truth be told

      @wasp
      atheists murder because they can and they enjoy it. If you closely examine the murderers who hid in the "church" you will find a real surprise, they were not Christians at all they were atheists., who lied their way into the Church to indulge their lust and greed for power.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:26 am |
    • truth be told

      It wasn't just Stalin every atheist dictator did the same thing the estimates on Mao range close to 800 million murdered.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      "Better a slave to Christ than a corpse created by an atheist."

      Your Truth is Mold,

      Well this at least explains your beliefe in an immoral dictator for a god.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      "Better a slave to Christ than a corpse created by an atheist."

      Your Truth is Mold,

      Well this at least explains your belief in an immoral dictator for a god.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @tbt.

      Bullshit!

      Are you a compulsive or a pathological liar?

      800 million represents one in every three people in the world in 1950. This number is off by a factor of 10.

      The upper estimates of excess deaths in China during the Mao era are 80 million, most of whom died from famine, particularly during the great leap forward.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • Lisa

      truth be told
      You're taking the total that Stalin is said to have killed during his tenure forgetting that a big chunk of those were German Nazi soldiers that we were also killing by the millions. Stop misrepresenting everything like creationists always do.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
    • WASP

      @TB: "murderers who hid in the "church" "
      well nice to know you have just denounced every pope for the last oh........................one thousand years or so.
      i love how well informed you are on whom was a true "christian" and whom were athiests in disguise.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • actually

      Stalin was a Georgian Priest who originally used religion as a tool to gain influence on people. As you can see by the education of our own population, it is still being used as a tool to control us and hold us back.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      Hey, cheese, you're already a slave to Mr. satan himself. And what's with you God haters, anywsay? You seem to be driven to call God's people degrading names....! It is always "us who are stupid" ....LOL!....
      But you NEVER see your own pitiful shape, how desolate you are, being prisoners in the grip of the enemy of your souls!

      August 29, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Simran

      TBT and PRISM are just like the kids who want to have their cake and eat it too. Whenever we show them the glorious history of the church they follow – they come up with the argument that those people were actually atheists and wiggled there way into the church!!! And then comes in the SATAN – I wonder how shi,tty god must feel in front of satan!

      Now what kind of fallacy would this argument fit into I dont know, but surely I will say:

      HOW STUPID CAN STUPIDITY BE!!!

      August 29, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Hey, cheese, you're already a slave to Mr. satan himself.

      Prism,

      Satan is part you your delusion, not mine.

      And please point out the post where I called all christians names. Chistians are not stupid, they are wrong to accept the bible and the information whithin to be a moral guide from a god.

      August 29, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      "An atheist like Joe Stalin who tortured murdered more than 24 million innocent people." Here you go again, lying for Jesus. Does He like it when you honor Him by lying? Heck, of course not, and you know as well as I do that He's never going to come around and tell you not to use His name for your lies. When you don't believe it yourself(obviously), and yet you keep trying to lead others into it, I gotta wonder what's in it for you? Minions?

      August 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  9. Average Joe

    Bill Nye telling me how to raise my children is even less appropriate than teaching them creationism.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • Lisa

      It's just good advice, like telling parents to feed their children healthy food. If you want to reject some advice just because it comes from someone else why do you bother going to church, where that's all they ever do?

      August 29, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • donna

      People give advice all the time. You are the one who is taking the time to listen to it and respond to it. No one is forcing you.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
  10. nojinx

    Go Bill! We need ten thousand more like you.

    Don't give children fist. Just teach them to fish for themselves.
    Don't give children what they should think. Just teach them to think for themselves.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • nojinx

      Whoops, I meant to say "Don't give children fish," but don't give them any fist, either.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • donna

      Kids need you to give them fish before they can learn how to fish or they can't develop into fisherman. It is crucial to teach children how to think for themselves, but if you are expecting young children to do their own research, you aren't being realistic. They deserve good information from day one. Then they deserve to be taught how to evaluate evidence and form beliefs based on evidence and not tradition or dogma.

      But it's not reasonable to answer every question from your child with: "Well what do you think?" Even the big questions. Tell the truth based on the evidence we have- no reason to pretend we don't have a lot of answers...

      August 29, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • nojinx

      " Tell the truth based on the evidence we have- no reason to pretend we don't have a lot of answers..."

      The danger is that some of us will not accept that our children's answers may be different than ours, despite the fact that we have some. That is why we teach them to reach their own conclusion.

      If you don't think kids can reach conclusions themselves, why do you think you can? It is not about answering informational questions. It is about determining value from the world we experience around us.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • donna

      When did I say I didn't think kids can't think for themselves? You are talking as if all kids are in the same stages of development- but you don't really believe that do you? Developmental biology is crucial to understanding how children process information.

      If you constantly refuse to answer your children's questions and tell them to figure it out for themselves, they are going to come up with a lot of wrong information. Humans are designed by natural selection to learn from the people around them as they develop their own critical thinking skills. It's a matter of biology- you can't just decide that your five year old should have the reasoning ability of a 15 year old.

      Human children must have input from the people around them to develop their world view- a world view that is crucial to becoming critical thinkers.

      Tell me, if your children asked which food was safe to eat, would you say "figure it out for yourself"?
      You would end up with a lot of dead kids if that was your strategy.

      If your kids asked how people get pregnant, are you going to say "figure it out for yourself"?

      By your logic, you oppose the vast majority of education, and I think that's as foolish as teaching them myths are true.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • nojinx

      Who is talking about ignoring the questions of children? Who is talking about them being in the same developmental state?
      The point is: when you answer their questions, how are you doing it?

      Do you think there is some point when children are not capable of developing thought or mental skills?

      "By your logic, you oppose the vast majority of education, and I think that's as foolish as teaching them myths are true."

      I oppose much of how that education is provided, not the education itself. It is not a question of whether or not you are going to help your kids find out the answers. It is a question of what they learn when you show them how to find out the answers.

      Let me know if you have any other questions. I can help you.

      August 29, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • donna

      You sound very defensive in that post.

      You were the one who said NOT to give them fish, but only to teach them to fish. Were not not talking about knowledge?
      Do you know how you teach children to come to their own conclusions? By modeling.

      "Do you think there is some point when children are not capable of developing thought or mental skills?"

      No, and you either aren't reading my comments or perhaps you just don't understand what I meant by biological development and how the human brain works.

      "Let me know if you have any other questions. I can help you."

      Given that you didn't answer the questions I asked before, it's a rather pathetic thing to say on your part, don't you think?

      August 29, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
  11. Thinking Person

    Way to go Bill....!! It takes a lot of courage to say the king has no clothes in our society.. Hopefully you will be still be able to earn a living or have some good savings after you get black balled by the right. The United States will not elect a secular president for another 200 years. Mind blowing that a culture can hold on to ideas conceived thousands of years ago before the age of enlightenment. I guess old habits die hard. Maybe we should reinforce the concepts that Santa Clause brings presents at Christmas, The Easter Bunny brings chocolate and The Tooth Fairy gives money for teeth in our schools as well?
    Not trying to be mean...I like all of those imaginary people.
    God created Dinosaurs.to inhabit the Earth for 180 million years. 65 million more years goes by and the first humans appear on earth 2 million years ago. Glad he finally got around to it.
    Thousands of years from now we will all be long gone and the Earth will be spinning around with something else that can survive on whatever is left of it to survive on. Probably huge intelligent Roaches that will dig up our bones and wonder if we had feathers or not.
    Do your children a favor and teach them that they are creatures that inhabit the Earth like any other. It is... what it is.

    August 29, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  12. Communism = Atheism = Stalin

    Atheists were the worst mass-murderers under Mao and Stalin. Killed more than any religion.

    August 29, 2012 at 9:56 am |
    • ME II

      Atheism, a lack of belief, does not lend itself to justifying atrocity, that takes a philosophy or religion.
      Stalin killed in the name of Communism and/or power, not atheism.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    • TROLL ALERT

      $5 says that it is prayer troll, please, don't feed it.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • Warchief

      How is this a troll? I'm stating facts. Seems like you atheists are scared to admit you are the cause of the largest mass murders in human history.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • Huebert

      I have never caused any murder, it is highly immoral to try to blame any group of people for actions they had no part in.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • nojinx

      White males were the worst mass-murderers of all time. Obviously we should eliminate all white males.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • truth be trolled

      Rubbish. Everyone knows Stain was a Christian outwardly during various parts of his life. You've tried this many times before and were brought down, so you're really showing stupidity by continuing to post "Communism = Atheism = Stalin" / truth be told / HeavenSent / just sayin / captain america / ! / james / Peter / etc. etc.

      Defining the characteristic of anything by a few of the world's most ruthless rulers is ludicrous. What is or much more importance is the murder and disenfranchisement of many that has always occurred on the part of all religions throughout their entire existence.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Mao and Stalin built cults of personality.
      Becuase they put themselves in the Godhead position, they were technically autotheists, not atheists.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • truth be trolled

      type correction: "What is of" not "What is or"

      August 29, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • ME II

      @Warchief,
      "Seems like you atheists are scared to admit you are the cause of the largest mass murders in human history."

      Are you the same Warchief that said below, "Hope this man dies."?

      August 29, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • donna

      Communism is a common life style for many Americans, but we just don't call it that. There's nothing wrong with sharing and working together for a common good.

      August 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
  13. Kristina

    Go Bill! Keep up the good work!

    August 29, 2012 at 9:46 am |
  14. Warchief

    Hope this man dies.

    August 29, 2012 at 9:28 am |
    • Huebert

      Are your beliefs so fragile that they can't take even the smallest of challenges? You must have very little faith.

      August 29, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • Warchief

      I'm just sick of atheists. They claim they don't believe in anything, but, they argue against the bible and God. So it seems they must acknowledge some sort of higher power while claiming not to. Fu-ck atheists, fu-ck muslims

      August 29, 2012 at 9:34 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      So people who argue against the existence of, say, The Loch Ness Monster actually have a belief in the Loch Ness Monster? Do you see the logical fallacy here?
      And it's nice to see such love and tolerance – phukk anyone who doesn't believe as you do.
      I'll have to read through the Sermon on the Mount again – I don't recall the bit about "blessed are the xenophobes"

      August 29, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • Huebert

      Why must I acknowledged some some higher power in order to take the position that the bible and creationism are false?

      August 29, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • Warchief

      Science is just a theory, just as well as religion. Claiming that you know which one is true or false makes you either arrogant or extremely stupid.

      August 29, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • justmetoo

      A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment." By contrast there is no scientific theory of creationism. There is loads of evidence for evolution and little to none for creationism.

      August 29, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • sam stone

      Gosh, warchief, you sure are a mouthy little b1tch, aren't you?

      August 29, 2012 at 9:56 am |
    • Huebert

      @Warchief

      Science test its theories. Religion screams it is right until enough people believe it, and then threatens the ones who know it's full of cr@p.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:28 am |
    • Cq

      Warchief
      We all die. That's about as certain as the truth of evolution. Hoping that somebody dies prematurely just because they disagree with you is not only pretty mean-spirited, but it's also petty.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @warchief
      Do you think astrology and astronomy are equally valid?

      August 29, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • Animal

      Hope your mom dies.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • tallulah13

      We'll all die, warchief. It's inevitable. We all die, and we decompose (or get cremated) and in a few generations we are pretty much forgotten. Our existence is ends, but there is nothing to fear about it. Accepting death is certainly more natural than clinging to unsubstantiated myths of superbeings and eternal life.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • donna

      Ah-ha! You were the one who started the twitter rumor that he died the day this article came out, aren't you? I see you like to rely on wishful thinking...

      August 29, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Frank

      Here's the problem Warchief. Science isn't a theory, it's a procedure. This would be like calling driving your car a theory. It's not, it's a procedure. Now, the procedure of doing science derives theories from evidence, this is true. But when you try to compare it to religion, you wouldn't even consider religion a theory, it hasn't even come close to being a theory, it's at best a somewhat poor hypothesis. As you probably have no idea what a hypothesis is, it's simply an idea for which there is no evidence to support. Now if you would like your religion to become a theory instead of a hypothesis, all you need to do is to gather evidence of it's validity, test the evidence for repeatability, have the results peer reviewed and published. Then your ideas would be a little more than just a hypothesis. It may even move up to the theory category.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
  15. Tom, Tom, the Piper's evolved Son

    Occasionally I like to poop in my hand and throw it at other evolved monkeys

    August 29, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • justmetoo

      You don’t sound too evolved to me.

      August 29, 2012 at 9:27 am |
  16. Reality

    CALLING ALL NEADERTHALS!!!

    You might be part Neaderthal and for $99 actually find out:

    As per National Geographic's Genographic project:
    https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/

    " DNA studies suggest that all humans today descend from a group of African ancestors who about 60,000 years ago began a remarkable journey. Follow the journey from them to you as written in your genes”.

    "Adam" is the common male ancestor of every living man. He lived in Africa some 60,000 years ago, which means that all humans lived in Africa at least at that time.

    Unlike his Biblical namesake, this Adam was not the only man alive in his era. Rather, he is unique because his descendents are the only ones to survive.

    It is important to note that Adam does not literally represent the first human. He is the coalescence point of all the genetic diversity."

    For your $99 and a DNA swab:

    "Included in the markers we will test for is a subset that scientists have recently determined to be from our hominin cousins, Neanderthals and the newly discovered Denisovans, who split from our lineage around 500,000 years ago. As modern humans were first migrating out of Africa more than 60,000 years ago, Neanderthals and Denisovans were still alive and well in Eurasia. It seems that our ancestors met, leaving a small genetic trace of these ancient relatives in our DNA. With Geno 2.0, you will learn if you have any Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA in your genome."

    August 29, 2012 at 8:30 am |
    • justmetoo

      I'm in!

      August 29, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      This is all a part of an Illuminati plot to identify all of the “extraordinary” people on the planet that are descended from the inhabitants of Atlantis that escaped the destruction of the island (which was really a spaceship). They will then use biological weapons that target all non-special people for termination.

      Don’t be fooled people!!!

      August 29, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @honey Badger
      But you and I both know that the human Illuminati are only puppets of teh Lizard King and his army of anthropomorphic reptlies who in turn are working in tandem with the Galactic Overlord Xeny.

      August 29, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • MoronBuster

      Atheists sending in $99 dollars to find out they have ice water in their veins.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:06 am |
  17. toongoon

    "The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution." ~ Bill Nye

    Translated; Consensus proves science.

    Al Gore made the same argument for global warming. Whether or not the globe is warming or evolution is true, people who want to convince us that science is real and not political should show us the scientific evidence, not tell us that most people believe it so you should too.

    August 29, 2012 at 8:15 am |
    • Len

      There is as much consensus about evolution being true as there is in the theory that the Earth revolves around the Sun, so yeah.

      August 29, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • justmetoo

      His point is that few scientists believe in creationism. If there was valid reason to believe in creationism, more scientists would be on board. Are there any scientists that believe in creationism? If so, name them.

      August 29, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • toongoon

      Thank you for making my point justmetoo. That nasty word belief creeps up with scientists just as it does with religion.
      Now you are arguing faith in science as well as popularity of an theory, but you are not making a case for evidence.

      August 29, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • justmetoo

      The scientists do not have a personal vendetta against creationism. Rather they obtain their opinion on the facts, data, and research done that points toward evolution. If they felt the facts prove toward a literal interpretation of the bible then that would have been their opinion.

      I also notice that you seem to demean evolution by calling it a theory. However, a scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment." By contrast there is no scientific theory of creationism.

      If you want evidence then just do a simple google search. You don’t need me to point them out to you.

      August 29, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • toongoon

      Quite the contrary, as Bill Nye distinctly pointed out, they have much animosity toward creationism and when politicized, it becomes hatred toward those who believe.

      Don't be offended, all science is based on theory, any scientist will tell you that. Science can change with new evidence and frequently does. The evolution of evolutionary science is a prime example.

      I am quite informed on evolution, I don't need you you send me any google searches. Thanks anyway.

      My concern is the politicization of science, which is what most posters here do not seem to understand, including you.

      August 29, 2012 at 9:11 am |
    • justmetoo

      You point is well understood but I can understand the distain that a number of scientists have for the viewpoint of creationists. A number of individuals want this to be taught with evolution in the schools when the evidence just isn’t there for it. Science is based on evidence and not theology. Why should we teach students denounced by most scientists in a science class?

      August 29, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • justmetoo

      Also, I hate to say that parents are corrupting their child but they seem to be teaching them to shun away from science. When a kid hears one thing in the biology classroom and at home, they’re not going to have a high regard for science. That is why I can understand Nye’s viewpoint.

      August 29, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      Occam's Razor is pretty sharp. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably not a duplicate constructed by Satan designed to snare you into heresy. If you look foolish insisting the world was born yesterday, then you probably ARE being foolish.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • donna

      If it were true that consensus proves science, based on the last gallup poll described here, the overwhelming consensus from the peanut gallery is that Creationism is accurate. But since Nye isn't changing his opinion because of the opinion of the masses, I guess that means you are wrong.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
  18. stupid followed to its logical conclusion

    becomes atheism .

    August 29, 2012 at 7:37 am |
    • justmetoo

      I'm a Christian that believes in evolution, is that a sin?

      August 29, 2012 at 8:10 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      Not according to Catholic teaching

      August 29, 2012 at 8:54 am |
    • justmetoo

      Is it a sin for other denominations to believe in evolution? Is it a sin for Presbyterians, Lutherans, and Episcopalians?

      August 29, 2012 at 9:06 am |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      It would be interesting to understand whether rejection of evolution has a roots in specific doctrine. We can do a simplistic analysis of the data presented:

      No evolution ................... 46%
      God Guided evolution ..... 32%
      -------------
      Sum of the above ........... 78%

      Evolution (no God) .......... 15%

      Curiously 78% of Americans are Christians*. I propose that this is highly correlated.

      * From the Pew Forum.
      http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

      Given this breakdown:

      Catholics ............. 24% (most likely accept 'God guided evolution')
      Protestants .......... 51%
      Other Christian .... 04%

      Evangelical Protestants ..... 26% (most likely reject evolution)
      Mainline Protestants .......... 18%
      Historically Black ................ 07%

      Making some gross assumptions about these numbers, it would appear that Mainline Protestants (Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc) are split on evolution.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      And yet I am apparently a lot smarter than you are, so go figure? You seem to be wrong a lot. Think about that.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:51 am |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    August 29, 2012 at 7:34 am |
    • Colin

      Praying hey? Isn't that where you think silent thoughts like "please God help me pass my exam tomorrow" and an immortal being that created the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies about 13,720,000,000 years ago, reads your mind and intervenes to alter what would otherwise be the course of history in small ways to answer your request?

      That we still believe this utter garbage in the 21st Century is astounding and disappointing. If it is not proof that our education system has been a train wreck for at least a generation, I don't know what is.

      August 29, 2012 at 7:36 am |
    • nope

      @colin
      nope

      August 29, 2012 at 7:37 am |
    • Colin

      Really nope, and what did I get wrong?

      August 29, 2012 at 7:39 am |
    • nope

      everything

      August 29, 2012 at 7:42 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I don't know if there is a God that could at once be the Creator of the Universe and caretaker of the least details. I only know I'm not suited for the job. Regarding prayer, if you want to establish telepathic contact with an invisible being it would be best to wait for it to call first.

      August 29, 2012 at 7:46 am |
    • ArthurP

      I am sorry but God is busy right now but your prayer is important to us so please hold the line and God will get to you as soon as he is free. You are currently 2,345,678,534 in line.

      (angels singing ..... )

      I am sorry but God is busy right now but your prayer is important to us so please hold the line and God will get to you as soon as he is free. You are currently 2,345,678,530 in line.

      (angels singing ..... )

      I am sorry but God is busy right now but your prayer is important to us so please hold the line and God will get to you as soon as he is free. You are currently 2,345,678,519 in line.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @ArthurP,

      that's a hilarious post. I'd suggest a slight modification:

      I am sorry but God is busy right now but your prayer is important to us so please hold the line and God will get to you as soon as he is free. You are currently 2,345,678,534 in line.

      (angels singing ..... )

      I am sorry but God is busy right now but your prayer is important to us so please hold the line and God will get to you as soon as he is free. You are currently 2,345,678,536 in line.

      (angels singing ..... )

      I am sorry but God is busy right now but your prayer is important to us so please hold the line and God will get to you as soon as he is free. You are currently 2,345,678,539 in line.

      August 29, 2012 at 11:21 am |
  20. atheism is

    When captain kangaroo does your thinking for you

    August 29, 2012 at 7:33 am |
    • Len

      How?

      August 29, 2012 at 8:22 am |
    • Frank

      Well that's just funny as hell. Bob Keeshan aka Captain Kangaroo, was actually a theist, Catholic to be exact.
      So a better comment would be that Christianity is what you get when you let Capt. Kangaroo do your thinking for you.

      August 29, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
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