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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

soundoff (14,640 Responses)
  1. lamb of dog

    Rosemarie you have been thoroughly brainwashed.

    September 1, 2012 at 2:07 am |
    • Athy

      And the sad thing is, she doesn't even know it. She will blissfully live the rest of her life in happy ignorance. The real shame is the effect of her stupidity on her children.

      September 1, 2012 at 2:12 am |
  2. rosemarie robson

    Bill Nye I can't wait until the end of the world comes, i would love to see the way you would re-act and tell JESUS all your obnoxious way of thinking about creation and evolution then. All of you that make fun of GOD will have your day on judgment day. I think you all are on some sort of drugs with your un-intelligent views. You all think your so smart now, just wait the end is coming all the signs are here. GOD knows what you atheist are saying about him and you all will be held accountable for your obnoxious way of thinking. Bill Nye keep your remarks about our children to yourself, it's people like you that will poison the minds of children. JESUS loves little children and he will not let your way of thinking destroy their precious minds.

    September 1, 2012 at 1:06 am |
    • EnjaySea

      Your anger, rosemarie is a direct result of your childhood indoctrination into the Christian religion. From the viewpoint of one who is completely, hook, line and sinker brainwashed into believing in the miraculous divinity of Christ, your comments make sense. To those of us free of that indoctrination, your comments sound like nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic.

      No offense.

      September 1, 2012 at 1:17 am |
    • Athy

      Oh, blow it out your ass. There is no god, for cryin' out loud. Fuck god. There, bring your god's wrath on me. When are you idiot bible lovers going to wake up and see the truth? Can't you think for yourselves? You behave as though ignorance is virtuous.

      September 1, 2012 at 1:18 am |
    • trying to believe

      Jesus said take no thought for tomorrow, so I guess my children will have to figure it out themselves, ........I hope you are right and jesus Takes care of them

      September 1, 2012 at 1:22 am |
    • Simran

      Dear Rosemarie Robson,
      You seem as vindictive as the interpretation you give of your god. You can't wait to see the end, wow! Is that what Jesus taught you that you should just wait to see your opponents suffer? And indulge in pride (Well, isn't sin a pride too?) Well, but I guess your sins have already been paid for by your god!

      September 1, 2012 at 1:33 am |
    • lamb of dog

      Are you off your meds again?

      September 1, 2012 at 2:01 am |
    • lamb of dog

      Are you off your medication again?

      September 1, 2012 at 2:01 am |
    • Peter

      Poe's Law?

      September 1, 2012 at 2:47 am |
    • Kenchandammit

      Does Jesus love little Chinese children, too! Bummer for them that they get Buddha and rot in hell, huh?

      September 1, 2012 at 2:50 am |
    • Paul

      Athy – Good luck with that!

      September 1, 2012 at 8:35 am |
  3. pezz

    discounting the countless scientific advancements that have been made by creationists, makes Bill Nye so ignorant that he is actually dangerous for our children

    August 31, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
    • Lisa

      Not doubting you, but can you name a few examples?

      September 1, 2012 at 12:12 am |
    • Athy

      Pezz, you are so right. Creationists have done so much to advance science we shouldn't even consider that evolution is true. How could we be so stupid and be totally misled by the all the evidence favoring evolution. Internal leg bones in whales, gills in mammalian embryos, all those strange fossils. Man, were we ever stupid. How can we ever recover and get back on the right track? Can you help us, please? You are obviously so smart.

      September 1, 2012 at 1:08 am |
    • EnjaySea

      I'd be glad to discount the "scientific" advancements made by creationists. Thanks for offering.

      September 1, 2012 at 1:24 am |
    • trying to believe

      My kids know Noah went all the way to Australia and picked up the Kangaroos and then dropped them back off becaues that's what Jesus wanted.

      September 1, 2012 at 1:35 am |
    • Peter

      Yes, creationists discovered genetics, DNA, virology, natural selection, general and special relativity, the photoelectric effect, quantum mechanics, plate tectonics, celestial mechanics, the formation of stars, the laws of planetary motion, the cosmic microwave background radiation, and string theory. Without their contributions to learning, we would all probably still be sitting contentedly in the Garden of Eden.

      September 1, 2012 at 2:54 am |
    • donna

      What modern creationists are making great scientific advancements?

      September 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Peter, how many of these 'creationists' had access to the discoveries of science that have occurred in the past 50 years?

      September 1, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
  4. JPopNC

    Nye says, "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution" where the fact of the matter is that Creationism simplifies things quite nicely. God created the world and everything in it in 6 days. There, done.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      hindu's, ignorant believer of hinduism, evolution are hind, stuck in hindu filthy mud of hinduism, denial of truth absolute, God, wasting their life like they never existed.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • Athy

      Admittedly simple. Great for simple people. Easy to understand and you don't really have to think. Evolution just isn't for simpletons and apparently there's just no way to dumb it down enough for them to understand.

      September 1, 2012 at 12:46 am |
    • Simran

      JPopNC,
      Life also pretty simple when we just accepted that disease was caused by god's wrath. Why didn't we stop at that point only?
      Life was also very uncomplicated when we had no electricity, when we didnot have phones and computers, when the only means to travel were on foot. Now god didnot give any of the above things to us, so why did we modify his world?

      September 1, 2012 at 12:56 am |
    • Peter

      The day you stop looking, because you're content God did it, I don't need you in the lab. You're *useless* on the frontier of understanding the nature of the world.

      –Neil DeGrasse Tyson

      September 1, 2012 at 2:57 am |
  5. Shawn Irwin

    There are about 7,770,000 species on the earth. If there are 90% insects, and we consider them to be all very small, (which we know they are not), we could say that each pair, in order to fit on the "ARK" would need 4 square inches for two of them, plus their food for more than 40 days (Actually I think it was about a year, but we will go with about 40 days just to give the bible thumpers a chance, it supposably rained for 40 days). Since 12 inches squared = 144 cubic inches, 144 cubic inches / 4 cubic inches = 36 per square foot. We know that, the insect population is about 80 – 90% of the entire 7,770,000 species, so making a conservative estimate, we will say it is 90%. 7,770,000 * 90% = 6,993,000 insects. 6,993,000 insects / 36 insect per square foot = 174,250 square foot needed to house all of these insects, and their food. Now the animals. 7,770,000 – 6,993,000 = 777,000 animals. We will again be conservative, and say that each animal requires only 3 cubic feet living space and three cubic foot for 40 days supply of food. 9 cubic feet total for each pair of species. They say the average size is actually that of a sheep, which would be more like 9 cubic feet for the two sheep alone. So, 777,000 animals x 9 cubic feet = 6993000 cubic feet required to house them. Now we will take the total needed for the insects and the total for the animals and add them together. 6,993,000 square foot + 174,250 square foot = 7,167,250 square feet needed on the whole "ark". (We will not even count the space needed for the humans, breathing space for all of the animals, and space needed for the structure of the "ark" itself.) Now the dimensions of the "ark" are well known. The length of the ark – 300 cubits, its breadth 50 cubits, and its height 30 cubits". This is equivalent to a length of 450 feet, a breadth of 75 feet and a height of 44 feet (assuming an 18" cubit); or 500 Feet, 83 feet and 49 feet (if it was the Egpytian 20" cubit). (We will use the larger size, just to give the bible thumpers a better chance) 500 x 83 x 49 gives 2,033,500 cubic feet. But wait, we needed 7,167,250 cubic feet! That is 3.5 times more space needed than the "ark" provided! And, we did not calculate for breathing space, space for humans, or internal structure of the ark itself! So, bible thumpers, please tell me, what did "god" do, shrink the animals?

    August 31, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • ArthurP

      You do realize there are two different Noah stories in the Bible, each one with a different number of animals.

      G:6-20Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive.

      G:7-2 Take with you seven of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate,

      August 31, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • JPopNC

      They could have survived on floating matter or by burrowing in the mud. Many species are dormant for years buried in the ground or underwater. Some of the insects may have been on the ark in the fur of the animals or in nooks and crannies of the ark. The Bible does not teach that they had to be on board.

      As for the animals themselves, nowhere in the Bible did it state the animals were full grown. Lion cubs could sleep right alongside zebra colts. And of

      September 1, 2012 at 12:06 am |
    • JPopNC

      @ArthurP: These are not two separate stories...the clean animals were ones they could eat so they brought extra of those.

      September 1, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • redzoa

      "17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die."

      Sorry, but the plain text indicates all "flesh, wherein is the breath of life...that is in the earth shall die." Of course, you are free to argue all manner of magic to desperately attempt to account for the impossibility of the Noah account. With magic, anything's possible! But then there's that pesky fossil record which clearly demonstrates a progression of forms which cannot be explained if all organisms co-existed and they all were drowned and buried in a single event. Floating biomes, hydrological sorting, etc, all fail for reasons middle-school children understand. Then there are the issues post-flood in returning these various "kinds" back to their distant homelands in the absence of their specialized food sources. Then there's the issue of "hyper-evolution" required to account for present biodiversity resulting from only paired kinds (for example, founder effects and loss of genetic variability, increased rates of extirpation). Etc, etc.... But let's not forget the moral issue in drowning children, infants and babies still in utero. Your notion of God as the divine water-boarder of the children is truly abhorrent...

      September 1, 2012 at 2:21 am |
    • Hello

      no, he shrunk their little bitty non thinking brains....

      September 1, 2012 at 7:11 am |
  6. ArthurP

    y2kpastor:

    "Show me your Bible or Book of Evolution and I will be able to read the citations for the comments you are making as well."

    Well for starters it is not a Bible it is not even a book, it is not even a shelf of books it is a freking library full of books. With each one representing a different piece of the puzzle.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
  7. ArthurP

    "Tens of thousands of years ago modern humans crossed paths with the group of hominins known as the Neandertals. Researchers now think they also met another, less-known group called the Denisovans. The only trace that we have found, however, is a single finger bone and two teeth, but those fragments have been enough to cradle wisps of Denisovan DNA across thousands of years inside a Siberian cave. Now a team of scientists has been able to reconstruct their entire genome from these meager fragments. The analysis supports the idea that Neandertals and Denisovans were more closely related to one another than either was to modern humans and also suggests new ways that early humans may have spread across the globe."

    http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/08/genome-brings-ancient-girl-to-li.html

    August 31, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      How about translating word modern for other's to understand your hinduism evolution and see how educated, knowledgeable you are to be an anthiest, self centered, assuning yourself to be truth absolute, god.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • Kenchandammit

      You are mistaken, sir. Neandertals are not extinct. They are among us and they refer to themselves as 'creationists'.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:03 am |
  8. hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

    Every hindu, ignorant is stuck in hindu filthy hind mud of hindu ignorant hinduism denial of truth absolute, human can never be atheist, self centered assuming to be truth absolute, god them self, only in their hindu soul, filthy desire, because every thing is dependent on truth absolute, THE GOD, one has to be a hidnu stupid to believe otherwise.
    Truth absolute, God, granted gift of choice to every human, "HIS DESIRE", right of choice comes with accountability, deny HIS, commandments of truth absolute and follow hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism, secular ism, and accuse truth absolute God, for your own hinduism, criminality does not make no sense to a educated person, but to hindu, ignorant hind, sunk in hinduism, criminality of atheism. secularism. Mayhem among humanity is created by human and no one is accountable for it, but human themselves.
    Genesis is hinduism absurdity of Egyptian hindu's, pagans, and hinduism, corruption of truth absolute reviled in original Torah, reject of son of blessed Mary and accepted as truth by follower's of hindu Mithra ism pagan savior ism labeled as Christians, gentile's, slaves of hindu Jew's, criminal slaves.

    August 31, 2012 at 10:54 pm |
    • Athy

      You didn't use the words hinduized, hinduported, hinduframmed, hinduplexed, hinduporated, hindumolized or hindustated. Maybe next time, OK?

      September 1, 2012 at 12:56 am |
  9. ArthurP

    Lets see. Genesis says birds before land animals.

    Then bird fossils should be found in rocks older than land animals. However, they are not. Bird fossils are not found except in rocks way younger that the rocks where the first land animals are found.

    Therefore birds were not created before land animals. This is further confirmed via genetics.

    Therefore Genesis is wrong. Now, if Genesis, essentially the first book of the Bible, is wrong what else is wrong in the Bible.

    August 31, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • 633music

      Now, now, no need to jump to such drastic conclusions.
      Genesis was written by Moses, was he truly trying to write a scientific journal or simply attempting to recount how man plunged themselves in to misery.
      It has fascinating details that most people miss...
      You do yourself a disservice to dismiss it so quickly.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Genesis is hinduism absurdity of Egyptian hindu's, pagans, and hinduism, corruption of truth absolute reviled in original Torah, reject of son of blessed Mary and accepted as truth by follower's of hindu Mithra ism pagan savior ism labeled as Christians, gentile's, slaves of hindu Jew's, criminal slaves.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
    • Athy

      That's easy. Nothing! It's just a collection bronze-age myths, written by barely literate camel-herders, and translated and modified by who knows how many "scholars". In other words, it's a pile of bullshit.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • Athy

      Sorry. I meant everything is wrong in the bible.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
  10. hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

    Every hindu, ignorant is stuck in hindu filthy hind mud of hindu ignorant hinduism denial of truth absolute, human can never be atheist, self centered assuming to be truth absolute, god them self, only in their hindu soul, filthy desire, because every thing is dependent on truth absolute, THE GOD, one has to be a hidnu stupid to believe otherwise.

    August 31, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
  11. 633music

    Hi welcome.
    I am a spokesperson for the adherents of evolution.
    They hired me because they cannot explain anything without being completely offensive.

    Here is what they would like you to know.
    While they respect your opinion and your right to believe as you desire, they want you to know that they feel differently.

    It is their position that if there truly were a god, he would not allow all the suffering that mankind has experienced.
    No details required.
    If there were a god, why would he allow so many different religions to speak for him and commit so many bad deeds in his name. And why are his reps. so divided?
    They readily admit that they have no idea how life got here, but they feel that evolution offers the best explanation.
    They wish you and yours the best in life.
    Thank you.

    August 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • 633music

      Wow, atheists and evolutionists are the sweetest people in the world. I am tearing up.....

      August 31, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Truth absolute, God, granted gift of choice to every human, "HIS DESIRE", right of choice comes with accountability, deny HIS, commandments of truth absolute and follow hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism, secular ism, and accuse truth absolute God, for your own hinduism, criminality does not make no sense to a educated person, but to hindu, ignorant hind, sunk in hinduism, criminality of atheism. secularism. Mayhem among humanity is created by human and no one is accountable for it, but human themselves.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
  12. ArthurP

    Christian Fundamentalist: Life only exists on Earth. God made it so.

    Scientist find life on another Planet.

    Christian Fundamentalist: Intelligent life only exists on Earth. God made it so.

    Scientist find intelligent life on another Planet.

    Christian Fundamentalist: Intelligent life with a soul only exists on Earth. God made it so.

    Alien missionaries arrive to save the souls of the people of Earth by spreading the word of the True God who's only daughter was born, preached, and died on their planet.

    August 31, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      If Arthur is done with his Science fantasy story line, I'd like to say that Nye's remark about our society badly needing all those kids that Christian parents produce to become scientists and engineers is a red herring.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • ArthurP

      Right because the United States really needs more people to work in the service industries. You know the ones that require phrases like, "Welcome to WalMart", "Paper or Plastic", "Cash or Charge" and ofcourse the ever popular "Would you like fries with that?".

      August 31, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      I don't know if Wal-mart is short on help at the moment, but I have noticed that a lot of good construction jobs have been going to non-English-speaking Latinos for many years now.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      And speaking of immigrant labor, when it comes to high-tech jobs, the US is one of the most popular countries on earth for highly-trained legal immigrant foreigners to brain-drain into.

      If you want to speak the truth re labor-shortages, it has more to do with lack of population replacement (low birth rate) than anything else.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      b4, if Walmart needs help, you should definitely apply.

      It's the only thing you're qualified to do.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
  13. Bev

    I have the right as a citizen to believe what I want. I go to church. I take what the bible says on faith. I believe that God created the earth, then he created the animals and then man and woman. As a parent who is a citizen, I have the right to teach my child what I want. If I want to teach them that monkeys run the government, I can do so. This is called freedom OF religion and freedom OF speech. If you want me to believe that the evolution theory is correct, explain why monkeys are not in DC? I CAN choose what I am going to teach my family, and there is not a lot you or anyone else can say to prove me wrong. Faith is a mighty thing. Its bigger than science, doesnt cost a dime, and is faster than a speeding freight train. I will take my faith and save my dollars for something important, like feeding the monkeys that run our government

    August 31, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bev, I can't do a thing to prevent you or your kids from being ignorant azzholes.

      OK? Happy now?

      August 31, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Bev,

      I'm quite sure there are monkeys in the Washington Zoo. It's quite a prestigious zoo.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Bev,

      here's a couple of black howlers for you:
      http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/SmallMammals/Exhibits/HowlerMonkeys/default.cfm

      August 31, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'll bet any one of those monkeys is smarter than Bev AND her kids put together, times two.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Bev sounds like she cares about her faith a lot more than she cares about her kids. Poor things. I hope their father is rational.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • Bev

      actually my son has a 175 IQ, and his son is as smart or smarter. We believe in God. We recognize that science has tried proving for thousands of years that God doesnt exist. I believe he does, and nothing science does or says can prove otherwise. We have recieved countless blessings on faith. Faith can move mountains. And monkeys are in Washington, as I said earlier, running our government.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bev

      Do you even realize that's a shifting of the burden of proof? Or perhaps a better question, do you care?

      August 31, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Also, science doesn't try to "disprove" god, that's just a straw man.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • 633music

      @bev

      You have just entered the evolution cult zone, nothing you say will matter.
      Note, the cult has many different sects, much like the "god stores" many call houses of worship.
      If you ask a valid question, it will no doubt fall out of the "scope" covered by evolution.
      I did learn something here today, evolution is not the source of life...not sure all the believers follow that belief, but some here do.
      They act as if they were there when say, blue whales began, but cannot answer a single question about what, why, or how they came to be. Not what evolution says, "get and education".
      Also, they use infantile name calling and bullying, much like their church counterparts...
      Don't believe, you are stupid, going to hell...
      Evolution is a pseudo religious, god surrogate, rife with its own crusaders...

      I have heard more recantations here than the inquisition.
      They only confirm this, evolution is responsible for nothing, answers no questions, and truly serves no purpose.
      It is in fact a religious surrogate for the disenfranchised, pseudo religious superfluous clumsy noise.
      God or no, evolution and its crazed adherents offer no explanation for how life began.
      Further, they talk of all these amazing things around them never seeing them as evidence of anything, and all came about by some mystical chance..yet not one of them has ever written, invented or created anything original.
      How do I know this?
      Because anyone who has ever created something even remotely difficult has respect for other complex things.
      Science is amazing.
      Evolution does not deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence.
      Ok, bring it on disciples, I know you are starting the fires up right now...

      August 31, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      LOL @633

      Are you trying to be as ridiculous as possible now?

      August 31, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      633 music doesn't need to 'try' to look like a complete imbecile, HG. It is second nature to the dolt.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • 633music

      @hawaiiguest
      This blog has been an eye opener for me.
      It is my sincere hope that the people who post here are just crack pots who do not truly represent the rank and file supporters of accidental creation.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Using the word creation automatically implies a creator, which has not been proven to exist.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • ArthurP

      Bev: "Faith can move mountains"

      What mountain has faith ever moved?

      August 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • heathanMike

      Bev, you are absolutely right that no one can ever convince you of something you don't want to believe, because you'll just refuse to consider any evidence that offends you. You talk about how smart you are. Interesting, because I think of myself as pretty smart as well, and when I was a devout Christian I knew some other devout Christians whom I still think of as pretty smart people. But intelligence doesn't equal infallable. Humans will tend to look selectively at information besed on our own starting perspectives and experiences and look more critically at information that challenges our worldview. The smartest person in the world can't persuade by rational argument someone who simply refuses to listen. So congratulations on your steadfast devotion to ignorance of biology science!

      August 31, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      hawaiiguest: Also, science doesn't try to "disprove" god, that's just a straw man.

      Why do atheists claim that holding a belief in God is silly make-believe fantasy?
      Why do they demand physical proof of a non-physical ent ity in order to believe it exists?

      August 31, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • ArthurP

      You can believe what you want but you can only practice what the society you live in deems acceptable.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      HeathenMike: "...intelligence doesn't equal infallable. Humans will tend to look selectively at information besed on our own starting perspectives and experiences and look more critically at information that challenges our worldview. The smartest person in the world can't persuade by rational argument someone who simply refuses to listen. So congratulations on your steadfast devotion to ignorance of biology science!"

      The Christian could correctly use your exact same words to apply to the atheist by replacing
      the phrase "ignorance of biology science" with the word "materialism".

      August 31, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • Athy

      Bev. You may want to think twice before you biblewash your innocent children. You will hobble them, possibly for the rest of their lives. Let them think on their own about religion. If they're as smart as you say they are, they will see the truth.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
  14. WASP

    @y2k: "You probably won't see any human bones among the those of the elephants either"
    1) yeah you do find neanderthal tools with mammoth bones and weapon marks on those bones.

    "Show me your Bible or Book of Evolution and I will be able to read the citations for the comments you are making as well."
    1) we are atheist, we don't have a bible.
    2) the O.T. is the jewish torah the revised version due to comparing scripture from both books.
    3) the N.T. was the result of the cannon which emperor constantine paying priests to vote on the books to include.
    4) there are multiple books published from top named scienctists yearly, start with basic biology combined with history of the old world.

    " Can you prove that the cavemen and Prehistorical Mankind did not live among the Dynasaurs, just because no fossil evidence can be found. Who said that GOD even wanted them to be found."
    1) "cavemen" as you phrase them couldn't have exsisted with DINOSAURS (atleast spell the name correctly) due to the fact if you dig through the layers of rock you are moving back in the earth's history, you will not find human bones with dinosaurs.
    2) you have what is called the K.T. boundry, it's a line of dust from the yukitan meteor impact that contributed to the extinction of dinosaurs, you don't find any human bones anywhere near or below that area.
    3) the whole "god" thing is what is in question, so just as in court the thing in question can't be used as evidence that it is true.

    " Perhaps it missed Noah's Ark. or maybe it is in reality a rhinosteros. That has nothing at all to do with whether or not Creation should not be taught."
    1) seriously? tht is your explaination as to why there are unicorns in the bible but not in real life; it missed the ark leaving "honey i told you it was a right at aberkery, not a left now you made us late and doomed our children." ROFLMFAO!
    2) i will agree a unicorn may be the misidentification of another horned animal, that is possible.
    3) this has everything to do with why creation shouldn't be taught; none of this BS makes sense, without your god to fill in the blanks your hypothesis doesn't pan out it simply flops when compared to TRUE science that has been tested and retested........and retested some more. creation/ID was thrown out of court as being silly and misleading not to mention it violates seperation of church and state; if you want to confuse your children, then send them to a private catholic/christian school or home school them but when they come back at you for filling their heads with things that they will be laughed at for believeing as adults.............well we told you so. lmfao

    August 31, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      God, meet Science. This is where assumptions go to die.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • ArthurP

      Fundamentalist Christians do not realize that their Bible is a government publication.

      August 31, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Pssst: maybe if you stop running words together (atleast), he will agree to check his spelling....

      August 31, 2012 at 10:54 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      WASP: "...things that they will be laughed at for believeing as adults.............well we told you so. lmfao"

      Seeing as how everyone gets laughed at occasionally, and seeing as how the only people who might laugh at a person for rejecting crass materialism is the atheist minority [in your case foul-mouthed], then I don't see any reason to fear derision coming from your particular peanut gallery.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • WASP

      @b4b: lmfao foul mouthed? i don't remember saying a single curse word. if being foul mouthed is telling you the truth of reality insetad of endorsing your fantasy horror land. if you look at the shear number, atheists/agnostics are increasing in numbers due to a realization that humans built this world, not your war-god.

      you religious people can't even figure out that your "holy book" is a work of fiction, ery well done fiction to play on fears and show unattainible rewards to coers your obedence.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
  15. John P. Tarver

    Radioactive dating is only good back 16,000 years. Why is Bill Nye trying to fool us?

    August 31, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Cause you're dumber than a box of hair. Plus it's entertaining.

      August 31, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      It's kind of like watching a cat chasing a laser light. Fun, but sort of sadistic.

      August 31, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • chris hitchens

      Tom tom gets its current events from Captain Kangaroo and its science from Bill Nye, it can understand better and does not have to take its thumb out of its mouth

      August 31, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • Athy

      Carbon dating goes back about 60,000 years. Other types can go back much further. All you need to do is Google it, but you're probably too fuking dumb to do that.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      A little reading will help you avoid embarrassment. What you're referring to is Carbon-14 radioisotope decay. There are more isotopes that decay at much longer half-lives that scientists use to measure longer time spans such as potas.sium and ura.nium.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • WASP

      @tom tom: ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!! OMG THAT WAS SOOOOOO FUNNY.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • nope

      @wasp
      nope

      August 31, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Athy

      Sorry. Meant to say "fucking".

      August 31, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Radiocarbon and radiometric dating are not synonymous. Radiometric dating is any dating that is based on measuring the decay rate of radioactive isotopes, and includes Ar-Ar, U-Th, K-Ar, 14C, and other methods. Radiocarbon dating is one form of radiometric dating that is based on the half-life of 14C (5,730 yrs), and is good to about 45,000 yrs ago (up to 60,000 years using accelerated mass spectrometers). It is used on organic matter only – not rocks.

      Smug condescension from people who actually don't have a clue is a hoot.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • 633music

      @chris hitchens Nice.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
  16. Diana

    THAT many people still believe in creationism? I feel like a lot of "Christians" have never read the Bible and just believe what they are told Christians should believe. Within the Bible, there are two contradicting versions of the creation story–one says Adam and Eve are created at the same time, the other says Eve came from Adam's rib, etc. Obviously one of them at least must be wrong. Even in the early days of Judaism, people understood that these stories were allegorical and NOT meant to be taken literally (otherwise, how could they reconcile the contradicting stories?). There's nothing wrong with a Christian believing in evolution.

    August 31, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • heathanMike

      I'm agnostic, but about Christians believing in evolution: Well said! America is a "special" place. The vast majority of Christians in Europe can't fathom how anyone could reject the overwhelming evidence of evolution. Something else is definitely going on in America. I suspect the whole evolution battle–going back at least as far as the Scopes monkey trial, is perhaps more about providing fundamentalists an excuse to stir up fervor for their movement by using science, gay rights, abortion, and perhaps other social issues, as fearsom bogey-man targets to keep the rank and file fundies believing that Satan is waging war and that therefore nothing less that unquestioning loyalty to their crusade will assure them of ending up safely on the side of Jesus and salvation. What a waste of emotional energy to let fear run one's life so thoroughly. Wouldn't a Christian faith that emphasizes God's grace and affirming the value of all God's children be a more meaningful and constructive faith?

      August 31, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
  17. Lifetraveller

    Thank You Bill Nye !!!! You are a sorely needed voice of reason and intelligence!

    August 31, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • LittleHero

      I see Neil deGrasse Tyson as Batman and Bill Nye as Robin (Nightwing for you X-gens). The new Dynamic Duo of science education!

      August 31, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    • Athy

      Yeah. We really do need some charismatic TV science educators to make our children think and get them away from biblewashing parents.

      August 31, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
  18. Jim

    All I know, after reading many many posts, is that I am a believer, I am at peace with my God and Jesus, and what others think is nothing to me. I will pray for non-believers but that is all I can do. My soul will be at peace.

    August 31, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • LittleHero

      Do you want your kids to be taught ID/Creationism in public school? If not, then fine – live and let live.

      August 31, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
    • die die

      keep telling yourself that.

      August 31, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
    • Athy

      I wouldn't base my believe-it-or-not decision on what I read on these posts. Throw out your 2000-year-old book of fables and read some 20(or less)-year-old science books. Of course this presumes you can read and think clearly without being influenced by your biblewashing.

      August 31, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      All I know, Jimmy, is that I would NEVER want your spawn to be my doctor. Fortunately for me and everyone else, your kids aren't likely to become much more than low-level menial workers who don't have much of an impact on anyone's health or wealth,

      August 31, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
  19. ArthurP

    Why do Christians worship a mass murdering terrorist:

    "And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." (Exodus 12:29-30)

    (terrorism – killing those with no political power to force political change by those with political power)

    August 31, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • Jonathan

      your too easy..... read the entire story and try not to pick out the sections that only fir your political agenda. Thank God there is gun laws in place for people like you

      August 31, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • psst's understudy

      "your" is a possessive.

      "you're" is a contraction for "you are."

      Try to learn the difference. Otherwise, you look illiterate.

      August 31, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • psst's understudy

      "your" is a possessive.

      "you're" is a contraction for "you are."

      Try to learn the difference. Otherwise, you look illiterate.

      Here's an example: "Your intelligence is questionable when you're unable to write well."

      August 31, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  20. funnyguyd

    You are all being trolled. It is hilarious to watch you people comment.

    August 31, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
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