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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

soundoff (14,640 Responses)
  1. Jfizzle11

    People are so fricken stupid... no proof of evolution? Look at sharks.... insects... bacteria and possible millions of other species. Oh wait i forgot according to you church going folks only humans are worthy enough for heaven and for consideration. Also most people don't know what theory means so here. A coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:

    August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
  2. Gingeet

    Bill is the man! We need to get the people in this country to stop with this ridiculous creationism state of mind! How can anyone in this day and age deny the overwhelming evidence that evolution is true? As Bill says, it's the underlying foundation for all of our Biological sciences. To put this into perspective it is like someone denying number theory and stating that 2+2 does not equal 4 because their "holy" text says something different. I mean come on people let's get with it!
    And stop with that "Belief" cr#p too. To believe in something that has no, none whatsoever evidence to back it up is just total foolishness!
    And Bill is right when he states that it is wrong to teach children such foolishness! We need them to make the big decisions in the future and if they are taught that it is ok to believe in fairy tales and make bad decisions based on them is ok then where will end up?
    If your beliefs can not hold up to scrutiny then it's not scrutiny that is the problem!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
  3. DaBadAss2000

    Evolution does not exist! Wake up people. Viruses don't evolve, God throughs a new one out each time. I personally can't think on at least 1000 examples of evolution. You people just don't know what faith is. Don't you remember when adam and eve met the dinosaurs? Jesus had one and I saw a photo of it. They had cameras too right? Keep denying the earth is round.... Prayer heals all and if it dos not just saw it was not in the plans!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
  4. Bryan

    Don C,
    Actually, what you are saying has no basis in fact. Something being called a theory and a law in scientific terms means something completely different than what you think. There is actually mountains of evidence, research, experiment that prove beyond a doubt that evolution exists. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it untrue. I don't have an inkling how quantum mechanics works, but it does. You should really consider reading a little more and repeating a little less.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  5. drewthinks

    The theory of evolution is not 'just a theory.' It is a SCENTIFIC theory. What this means is that upon review upon review, upon test upon test, upon new evidence and newer evidence, there has never been ANYTHING that has been able to refute evolution–unless you recount the fairly tales of varoius religions. While evidence and peer review of evidence has helped to modify and enhance evolution since its original proposition as a HYPOTEHSIS (look it up; it's the scientific term for what others call 'just a theory') and mature it to a SCIENTIFIC THEORY, no sound, reasonable, VERIFIABLE alternative has ever survived the merciless review of the scientific method.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  6. Punctus

    The United States: leading the world in ignorance production for over 200 years! U...S...A! U...S...A! U...S...A!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Stefanie

      Oh yes... I so agree with you Punctus! However, we can stand proud of our newest evolutionary - sort of creation ... "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo".... I am certain the "creation" of this "show" alone could deny further evolution of the human species!

      August 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
  7. CS

    Even pope John Paul II believed in evolution. Wake up people!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
  8. rob

    The religious nuts in this world, especially the U.S., are getting crazier by the day. We need to rid society of this dangerous vermin.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • MormonChristian

      So just what are you proposing? A Final Solution for all religious people? Only this time with crosses and crescents as well as stars of David. Sounds crazier than what you are condemning.

      You may be kidding, but this is where the dialog is heading...

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
  9. Ron from Jersey

    Origin of Species: written by a man who was ill all of his life, lost a parent at a young age, and lost two children in their young age. Perhaps his denial of God was personally based which would have influenced his NEED to create such an off-the-wall theory.
    Think about it: "natural selection" in of itself reeks of an intelligent designer.........DUH!!! Nothing is "selected" by itself. To believe ALL came about by accident completely denies true scientific application.............DUH again!!! It's all about belief and if you believe everything is an accident, you have more faith than Christians.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • IthinkItThrough

      This is the most idiotic statement. Origin of the Species is by far the most rational account of natural history. Certainly more sensible that the magic wand theory. Uneducated religious nuts say the believe in god. How do YOU KNOW god exists? Have you seen him personally? I don't think so. The only thing you KNOW is what your five senses tell you. This is exactly why people BELIEVE in god... BELIEVING IS WHAT YOU DO, WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW!!! Science neither proves or disproves god, but certainly disproves creationism (aka magic wand theory). CLEARLY RELIGION POISONS THE RATIONAL MIND. Also, SCIENCE HAS PROVEN THAT THE EARTH IS BILLIONS OF YEARS OLD... IS CALLED CARBON DATING. Clearly this is beyond your level of comprehension... keep living in the stone ages.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      well for starters he started work on his idea of natural selection before he even met his wife, let alone lost any kids so you are off to a shaky start before you even try to claim anything else about evolution. but that itself is just an attack on Darwin and not on evolution so its a pointless argument.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
  10. Raymondo

    Why did God create tapeworms? Why did God create earthquakes? Why did God create cancer? Why did God create murder? If I was God, I would have made a world with no murder, no jerks, no hunger, and no mosquitos. That seems like a no-brainer.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • MormonChristian

      ...and no school, no work, no exercise, etc.

      Ever watch a movie with no protagonist, no bad guys, no challenge to the main character?? Pretty boring...

      August 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • Raymondo

      I'll take blissful boredom over people getting shot in the head for no reason.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Ron from Jersey

      Earthquakes are a necessary feature of earth that allow for mountains A.K.A. land. You wouldn't be here if they didn't exist. No one forces people to move to L.A. or SanFrancisco. People move there due to pride and selfish reasons. Why else would anybody more to an earthquake prone area? Most cancers are caused us, not God. I can't tell you why 5 year olds die of cancer but then again I know very few children that die of cancer but I know tons of people that smoked themselves to death. God gives you and I a choice to do what HE says is right. We ignore him and choose to murder.

      As far as tape worms go, I have no idea. Maybe God is telling us to stay away from pork?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
  11. liverleef

    Don C. Yes, Evolution is a theory. The germ theory of disease is also a theory yet I assume you still take Antibiotics. You seem to think that a theory is little more than a Guess. A hypothesis is more of a guess. Once plenty of evidence is acquired you now have a theory. The more evidence you have, the more likely your theory is to be correct. In the case of Evolution, there is a tremendous amount of evidence but none of it contradicts the existence of God. I don't believe you don't have to embrace ignorance to be religious.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
  12. MormonChristian

    Thanks, CNN for hosting another (daily) blog that polarizes us – "You must choose: Science or Religion". I choose both.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • truth be told

      You cannot be a Mormon Christian, you are either one or the other. As to science, science is given to mankind by God so there is no choice.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
  13. Rob-Texas

    I have to say this about people but Nye's views are moronic. When in the 19th and 20th centuries has the creation views ever stopped the US from producing top scientists in every field. It doesn't stop anything in terms of learning and it doesn't hurt our children, it never has in the past. Weather you believe the the fact that from the point of the big bang in space, at that location, 7 days = billions of years on earth, or God's days are not 24 hours. Time in relative to the Earth and there are very few Christains that believe the Dinosaurs didn't exist or that the earth is 10000.00 years old. Someone needs to take Nye down a peck or two.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      You need to have better information, get educated, read more, learn the truth and expand your world view there Tex

      August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • ChristardMingle.com

      Tex, so you think lying and deceiving children and brain washing them into insane cult belief systems is ok?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • gert612

      "It doesn't stop anything in terms of learning and it doesn't hurt our children". Two words for you – climate change.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • John

      Rob, you are a perfect example of "moronic".

      August 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • Dale in Austin

      Truly the post of someone living in the dark ages or here in Texas where we deal with this kind of stupidity every day.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • Phoenix05

      Where is the faith?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • fastball

      Yes, there are some high-level American scientists out there.
      But imagine how many more there COULD be – if 46 percent of the population didn't have closed minds?
      How can you say that indoctrinating your children with MYTHS doesn't do them any harm? If mom and dad say God put us here, and my teacher and my schools says otherwise – how can that NOT mess a kid up??

      August 27, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      My views developed and my education proceeded in spite of constant attempts at indoctrination by the faithful I grew up among. Those "faithful" included teachers who were basically feeding me lies along with the things I actually needed to know. I did become a scientist, but I should never have had to learn to discern lies from fact in the way that I did: on my own, learning not to trust anyone's "facts".

      August 27, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  14. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things ,

    August 27, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • Dan

      Religion is not healthy for little altar boys.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Bermille

      Prayer is a fantasy that you tell children before bed.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • snowboarder

      we've heard that lie before.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ~ ,

      August 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • DERP

      Prayer does nothing, nothing at all.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi prayer-bot

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • John

      You represent the worst of America.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • fastball

      If praying helps you get through your day – great.
      But 99.99 percent of the time, it's just as effective as crossing your fingers.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • IthinkItThrough

      This is the most idiotic statement. Uneducated religious nuts say the believe in god. How do YOU KNOW god exists? Have you seen him personally? The only thing you KNOW is what your five senses tell you. This is exactly why people BELIEVE in god... BELIEVING IS WHAT YOU DO, WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW!!! Science neither proves or disproves god, but certainly disproves creationism (aka magic wand theory). CLEARLY RELIGION POISONS THE RATIONAL MIND. Also, SCIENCE HAS PROVEN THAT THE EARTH IS BILLIONS OF YEARS OLD...IT'S CALLED CARBON DATING. Clearly this is beyond your level of comprehension... keep living in the stone ages.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • Michael

      Atheism only came about because people became Theists when the invented gods. Non believers can be moral good people.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
  15. Ph.D._and_Believer

    This debate has gone on for so long and the primary outcome is anger and hate. The only true statements in the debate between creation and evolution is this: Evolution is still a theory otherwise the scientific community would refer to it as fact. Nobody debates the Laws of Newton because they are fact. Evolution is a hypothesis based on numerous observations but has not been proven. Those who believe in evolution are constantly seeking answers and missing pieces to the puzzle. They won't be satisfied, and neither will the scientific community, as long as the evidence which fully proves evolution is yet to be discovered. As a scientist, I'm always asking questions about the world we live in and I don't fault other scientists trying to prove evolution because that is the question they are passionate about. As for creationists, they don't need to seek for evidence to prove God created us. We just believe. So although I believe in creation, that doesn't mean I'm going to stop asking questions about the world and universe we live in. I'm just humble to the fact that we as humans may never get the answers to all our questions. And that's ok with me.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Dear Doctor,

      do you believe that the earth is between 6k – 10k years old?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • QS

      "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it."

      You are precisely who Mr. Nye was speaking about and to.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Nissim Levy

      You really have a PHD? I don't believe it. You have no idea what a theory means in science. Ever hear of the theory of Relativity? Why is that called a theory when it is accepted universally by Physicists?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Jim

      Please read the attached and enlighten yourself about what "Theory" means in this context:

      http://www.notjustatheory.com/

      August 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • johnfrichardson

      The scientific community does refer to it as fact, because it is indeed a totally estabished fact that guides all biological thinking and has for well over a hundred years.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Sorry, 8k – 12k years old?

      (adding the 2k years since the rule of Augustus)

      August 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Ph.D._and_Believer

      " As for creationists, they don't need to seek for evidence to prove God created us. We just believe. "

      The majority of your posting is about seeking, science, etc...and yet the sentence I quoted of yours above, how do you reconcile that with scientific scrutiny ?

      Peace...

      August 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      The question here isn't whether you believe in God.

      Lots of people synthesize a belief in God with evolution – 32% of Americans accept that the earth is 4.5B years old and that "God" formed his "creation" using evolution as his method to create man in his likeness. This synthesis of science and belief is reasonable (stipulating a belief in God).

      The insanity here is the 46% of Americans who claim to believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old.

      Surely our good Doctor does not list himself in this group?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • Ryan K

      I greatly appreciate your understanding that science and Christianity are not mutually exclusive. I, too, believe that God created everything. I do not believe that evolution doesn't exist. There are countless examples of living things adapting to their environments through changes in genetics. The difference is that I don't believe evolution is how life originated.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • biology_phd

      You don't sound like a Scientist, Scientists do not use words like "prove" or "fact" even when discussing Newton's Law of Gravity or Einstein's Law of Relativity. Scientific Laws are statements that predict a wide range of phenomena, a framework in which to develop hypothesis. What is your PhD in?

      Scientists seek answers to difficult questions, we do not put faith in belief systems.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • miketol

      Scientific laws are descriptions of nature. As such, they are inferior to theories, which are explanations of nature. The "theory" of evolution is superior to any scientific law you can name. It is also a fact – we can see it happen in the lab and field and we have the evidence of its effects in the past. Bill Nye (R.I.P.) had it spot-on.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • gert612

      "they don't need to seek for evidence to prove God created us. We just believe".

      So by this standard, every god anyone ever believed in existed.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • Tiff

      So I'm curious now... Are you of the belief then that the world in only 6000-10,000 years old? Do you believe that God created the heavens and earth in 6, 24 hour periods?

      We know from science that our "day" is constantly changing. Even today a day is not a consistent 24 hours.. so why is it hard to grasp that thousands of years ago a "day" might have held different time?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • Jason

      I refuse to believe your phd is in a science. This "theory vs. fact" argument is nonsense. You're using a non-scientific definition of theory (here's a hint, what you really mean when you say that is, 'hypothesis') and it's inconsistent.

      To be clear, http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6024&page=2

      –Also a PhD

      August 27, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • True PhD and a believer.

      Ugh, once again, people don't understand law vs. theory. There is no hierarchy of knowledge and a law is not better than a theory. You know that much, right?

      Laws tell us WHAT happens, theories tell us HOW it happens. We still have the germ theory of disease, and the DNA sequencing theory, even though they are widely regarded as fact.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • Doug from Seattle

      As a Ph.D. you should recognize the difference between a hypothesis and a theory. A hypothesis is a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences. A theory is a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principal or body of principals offered to explain phenomena. In other words, a theory is consistent with the facts as we know them. Creationism is a hypothesis that is not consistent with the facts and, therefore, is not scientfically considered to be a theory. The theory of relativity, the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, and so on are fundamental scientific pricipals that are consistent with the facts as we currently know them!

      August 27, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • ange8

      you expect people who believe in creationism to blindly accept god as the divine creator of all based on nothing more than faith. why can't evolutionists feel the same passion based on their faith in science and technology to form the logical conclusion that evolution is a far greater possibility than a deity that has never been seen or spoken to having created everybody and everything??

      August 27, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Ph.D._and_Believer –

      I, also, suspect your handle is an attempt to lend authority to your post. You state that you are a scientist (perhaps in the social sciences? Although, most Ph.D. candidates in the social sciences have well developed writing skills, which you do not), yet your post is peppered with terms used in ways no natural scientist would use them. I offer the following link from the National Academy of Sciences explaining why evolution is both a theory and a fact. Read. Think. Learn.

      http://www.nationalacademies.org/evolution/TheoryOrFact.html

      August 27, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      "Nobody debates the Laws of Newton because they are fact. "

      like Newton's theory of gravitation?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • Ph.D._and_Believer

      To all those asking how old I "believe" the earth is? Well that is not my field of expertise so I cannot comment on the supporting evidience. So if there is conclusive evidence saying the earth is X number of years old and the methods of obtaining this information is sound, then I accept the earth is that X years old.

      Now those challenging my terminology in this INTERNET BLOG FOR ALL AUDIENCES, I apologize for not being precise. Writing just the abstract for a journal takes me many revisions until I know I have it perfectly correct. This is not a journal so I was just trying to make a quick point about the topic of discussion.

      As for the examples of fact and theory:
      FACTS
      1) Law of Newton
      2) Earth is not flat
      3) The universe is expanding

      THEORIES still being debated::
      1)Evolution
      2)Theory of Relativity
      3) String theory

      Finally, as for those arguing I cannot be a scientist because I believe in God or wondering how I explain that to the scientific community.............I'll leave those unanswered questions for you to be upset about.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Ph.D_and_Believer – regarding "THEORIES still being debated:: 1)Evolution"

      You're incorrect. There is no debate in the scientific community about whether or not evolution occurs...it is a fact. There are several theories as to how evolution occurs, but it is a fact that evolution does occur. How can you be a scientist if you do not understand what the term theory means in the sciences or that evolution is a fact?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Ph.D._and_Believer

      For the sake of clarity, why don't you simply disclose in which field of study you received a Ph.D.?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Ph.D._and_Believer

      I understand very well the difference between a theory and a fact. Simply put, theories are thoughts about why things are the way they are. These theories can change and be adjusted as more EVIDENCE comes into the picture. So theories are adjustable and dynamic. But the reason evolutionists must call evolution a fact is because there is no way to go back and modify your original thought. The moment they do, evolution is dead in the water. As much as you want to deny it, evolutionists do alot of cherry picking when it comes to presenting evidence. They can't present contradictory evidence because there goes the whole argument. A scientist who studies the galaxy will fight hard to prove his theory is correct, but the moment there is evidence to show otherwise, they adjust their original theory. Evolutionists refuse to do this. Generally, credible scientists will base conclusions on what a significant portion of the evidence suggests, not based on the outlier data which is presented in evolutionary studies.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Ph.D. –

      I've been patient and courteous, but no longer. You, sir, are simply full of crap. If you have a Ph.D., it stands not for Doctor of Philosophy, but rather Piled Higher and Deeper. Get some education.

      August 27, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
    • Ph.D._and_Believer

      Ok ok. Take a breath guy. No need to get all bent out of shape. Oh and Piled Higher and Deeper is actually a pretty funny comic so don't knock it. Thank you for your input to the conversation and we'll just agree that we disagree. Like I said, this debate will go on till the end of man's existence on earth. Have a laugh and check out this comic http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1077.

      August 28, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • DeJure

      True PhD and a believer,

      Yes, there is a hierarchy of knowledge. Philosophers have used such models for a long time, and it's also relevant in the more practical aspects of science and learning.

      August 28, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
  16. Heather

    Nye, only a scientist would think that we could come from monkeys. Ooo-oooh! Ah-ahh!

    August 27, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • .

      And only an immature adult would believe they were created by their imaginary friend.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • fastball

      Heather, if you had a single clue about the theory of evolution – you'd never have posted that (semi)thought.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      And a person named Heather sounds like a blond.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • Mark

      We didnt come from monkeys. Obviously, you do not understand evolution. Monkeys and man have a common ancestor. Try to understand something before bashing blindly

      Your Welcome!

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • Heather

      That's funny.... You are calling me names because of what you think I believe and I am the immature one? Yeah, okay.... Want a banana? Oooo-oooh!!

      August 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Dan586

      That's right ! We all know Odin and all the other Gods created man.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • Heather

      I find it hilarious that you people seem to think you are so smart that you know everything about the world. Answer one question for me, were you there?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • adam

      Heather, with all respect, most people would agree that taunting your audience with monkey sounds is rather immature...

      Also, it seems that you revel in your ignorance rather than attempt to have a rational discussion about the facts.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • Heather

      Answer the question Adam.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
    • adam

      What question?

      August 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Michael

      You are the epitome of ignorance of science and evolution. I hope you don't have children.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'Answer one question for me, were you there?'

      yes i was. I dont have to prove it, you just need to have faith that i was.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
  17. Nissim Levy

    A person cannot believe in Creationism and be an excellent scientist.

    You cannot be a good geneticist and believe in Cretionism because you would be denying the fact that genetics and DNA point clearly to Evolution. You cannot be a good Astronomer and believe in Creationism because you would be denying the fact that stars ar observed being formed even to this day and not just when the universe was created. You cannot be a good Physicist and be a Creationist becasue then you would be denying the very physics that explains the creation of stars and the conclusion that it is a process that takes millions of years. The list goes on and on...

    August 27, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Ph.D._and_Believer

      I'm sorry but that is absolutely untrue. A good scientist is one who follows the scientific method and uses quantifiable measures and observations to support a conclusion. You may say that creationist scientists refuse to see evolution as an explanation but you should know that some evolution believing scientists immediately jump to the conclusion that evolution must be the explanation for an experimental outcome. A good scientist neither jumps to conclusions or ignores possible explanations. A good scientist lets the evidence at hand make the conclusion.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • Ken

      Here's what many people do not understand, or fail to acknowledge, about DNA and genetics research: You say that all of this scientific research and observation points to the fact that we share very similar DNA to primates, but everything that scientists find is only within the extent of human knowledge and technology. You are basing your entire hypothesis in what human beings have found, not what you truly believe in your heart. The so-called "missing link" will never be found because it doesn't exist! There are so many things that humans will never know about our origin because God did not design our minds to possess such knowledge. God instilled within us the ability to have faith and believe in what he has done for us, he did not design us to find flaws and faults about how we were created. Do you actually believe we came from monkeys??? If that is so, then why are there still monkeys around...why have they not evolved into humans yet??? That is one question that evolutionists can, and will, never answer.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • Chance

      @Nissim
      A narrow minded comment; there is another side to your list. For example the observable fine tuning of our universe to give intelligent life a opportunity to exist. The fact that arbitrary constants exist, for example the strength of gravity; through science we know that these values can only be near the observable constant or human life would not exist. The laws that govern physics for a believer are fingerprints of God. So the pursuit to further understand the universe is a must for a believer; the more we understand the more we see the designer. I could go on...

      August 27, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
    • Nate

      I beg to differ...check out Ken Ham and Jason Lisle. Dr. Lisle is an astrophysicist and could run circles around Nye defending creation. DNA isn't just chemcials...it works much like a language...as the spoken word works. It pieces together letters, words, sentences, paragraphs to form a complex code which builds....YOU. It is loaded with information, and the scientific laws of information state that all info comes from a mind. Even if the parts of your body evolved...where did the info in DNA come from. The laws of information science say they must have come from a mind...couldnt just evolve.

      Astromony? Astronomical science says the average life span of a comet is less an 100,000 years. If this is true...why do we still have comets today? The observation of them suggests that the universe is much younger than evolution claims. Evolutionists just say, "well comets are created from somewhere else", but there, to this day, is no scientic proof or observation of this happening. C14 dating also suggests the the universe and Earth are relatively young campared to time lines given by evolution. Even if the whole Earth was made of Carbon 14, after about a million years, it would be completely gone based on how fast it decays. Why do we still see so much Carbon 14 then...we still find it in everything. If the universe and Earth are so old, we shouldn't see any Carbon 14 anymore.

      and physics?? The main four laws of physics (1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics, law of cause and effect, and law of biogenesis) all support the biblical view of creation...infact in order for evolution to be true...it would have to contradict these main four laws of thermodynamics. The bible practically teaches the 2nd law of thermodynamics in the "fall of man" story. Fits perfectly as to why this law exists, that all creation is slowly winding down into less usable energy.

      I wish evolutionists actually did more research and science that they claim to do. Then they wouldn't believe this foolish theory.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'There are so many things that humans will never know about our origin because God did not design our minds to possess such knowledge. '
      and you base this argument on what evidence?

      'Do you actually believe we came from monkeys??? If that is so, then why are there still monkeys around...why have they not evolved into humans yet??? That is one question that evolutionists can, and will, never answer.'
      oh jeez, are you seriously asking this as a question? honestly? Sigh, we did not come from monkeys, we share the same common ancestor. And evolutionists will tell you over and over and over why the monkeys around today have not evolved into humans.

      'The fact that arbitrary constants exist, for example the strength of gravity; through science we know that these values can only be near the observable constant or human life would not exist. '
      poor argument. human life exists the way it does because of its environment, not the other way round.

      'Astromony? Astronomical science says the average life span of a comet is less an 100,000 years. If this is true...why do we still have comets today?'
      *facepalm* really? for starters where are you getting the information that you think they say the average life span of a comet is 100,000 years? and do you think all the 'comets' were created all at the same time and once only?

      'and physics?? The main four laws of physics (1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics, law of cause and effect, and law of biogenesis) all support the biblical view of creation...'
      oh crap, it just gets worse. do tell us how you think they support creation and contradict evolution.

      'I wish evolutionists actually did more research and science that they claim to do. Then they wouldn't believe this foolish theory.'

      i wish those that bash evolution did the same research and science then maybe they would know what they are talking about.

      August 27, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • Chance

      @ Ceder
      "poor argument. human life exists the way it does because of its environment, not the other way round."
      Yes, because of these condition we exist.
      The point remains; there is observable fine tuning. Your counterargument is my argument genius. The conditions we live in are are observable fine tuned conditions.

      August 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
  18. HeavenSent

    When will you athiests start your walk with Jesus. One of these days you will realize your eternity will be spent with your father satan, who is the devil. My pee soaked granny panties are so stiff they can stand in the corner alone. I come on these blogs to tell you Jesus' truth, but you spit in his face.

    Amen.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @HeavenSent

      LOL ! 😀

      Man, I love this particular -HeavenSent.

      Peace...

      August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • QS

      LMAO!

      August 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
    • fastball

      If you're a sterling example of the type of company one can expect in heaven – I'll pass, thanks.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
  19. xirume

    Funny how creationists adamantly refuse to accept that they evolved from something so almost human as monkey, but have absolutely no problem blindly believing that they came from a mud dummy blown to life by a bearded old white guy. What incredible stupidity.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Tim D.

      Refusing to believe we came from apes is like refusing to believe we grew up from children. Look at those stupid smelly uncoodinated ignorant short children! How dare you compare me those ridiculous creatures! God created me in his own image which is nothing like of a child.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
  20. SAS6907

    Look at the scriptures closely and you will see that He said, In the beginning the earth was without form and void.
    He did not say what He made the earth from, only that it was without form and void.
    The Creation

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was [a] formless and void, and darkness was over the [b]surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was [c]moving over the [d]surface of the waters. 3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

    August 27, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • W

      So what?

      August 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Except that the scriptures have no evidence to support them and they have been proven false. The Universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old, the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years...these are scientific facts based on peer reviewed evidence, they are not disputable. Quoting scripture proves laziness and lack of intelligence.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • QS

      "Look at the scriptures closely and you will see that He said....."

      Look as closely as you want, it won't change the fact that all you believe that is written in that book was said by man, and man only.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • pmmarion

      And as I've said many times in the past and will continue to say until I die....This is utter and absolute nonsense.

      August 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
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