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Bill Nye slams creationism
August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET

Bill Nye slams creationism

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."

"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.  The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.

Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."

"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.

Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States.  Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years.  In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine.  But don't make your kids do it.  Because we need them.  We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.  We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.

Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.

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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge."  Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859.  By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist.  There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Creationism • Science

soundoff (14,640 Responses)
  1. ArthurP

    Where are the fossilized bunny rabbits? Why are there no bunny rabbit fossils among the dinosaurs? All animals were created a the same time (day) weren’t they?

    August 27, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • Blame the deserving

      Duh; Them mean old dinosaurs done ate them bunnies all up. But Noah saved a few.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
  2. Ed M.

    Creationism is a religious view, not a scientific one.

    Only teaching every view of "creation" would qualify as a scientific study, meaning Baal and Ishtar and Quetzecoatl and Jupiter and Tiamat and Shiva and Odin and Tiki and Quan Yin and The Great Spirit and Ahura Mazda/Ormuzd would have to be included with Yaweh (who is all "creationists" mean)

    August 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
  3. Jane

    Love you, Bill Nye the Science Guy!!! Thanks for teaching our kids all about science in the most groovey, creative and fun way! Awesome!!! We all love you in our family.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Boing

      HEAR, HEAR!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  4. Alicia

    Moby babe.... evo simply doesn't "close".... and to be fact, it has to close. (Close: look up "circle", they close)... it's a THEORY and a favorite THEORY because "someone said it was so"....LOL, LOL...

    August 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      You'll need to make some sort of sense, dear, for me to be able to respond. Less gibberish, please.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • sbp

      Wow, that was incoherent.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I can only hope Alicia is a Poe, but I fear she is not.

      "It has to close."

      What a doofus.

      Alicia, do you know how the definition of the word "theory" as it is used in science differs from the way you probably use it in casual conversation? Did you look it up? Because I don't think you have a clue.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      @sbp: everything that chicky writes is incoherent.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
  5. Marv

    all things were created by nothing with nothing and for nothing.......that takes more faith than i have......i prefer to believe in Jesus Christ – the one and only who rose from the dead – the most astounding historical fact ever recorded; Christians don't have all the answers but as the author Don Miller noted: 'I can no more understand the complexity of God than the pancakes I made for breakfast can understand the complexity of me'

    August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'Marv' is an instance of the Argument from Ignorance fallacy.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      August 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      What about Lazarus?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Spawn of Satan

      So your god is going to eat you?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      So your alleged "god" was created by NOTHING for NOTHING just so it/he/she could allegedly create all that we currently know as the Universe just to trip us up in order to BURN the majority of us for eternity?! HOW DUMB CAN YOU BE?!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • SciGuy

      zeus, the eternal one was not created. He is self-existent, while all else derives its being from him.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Can't be self-created. No such thing, dolt! Every effect must have a cause! Don't just be content to fill in the gap with your lazy "goddidit" phony-answer. Learn, dolt!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • Spawn of Satan

      @sighguy. So why can't a universe be self-existant?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Douglass

      Any evidence that Jesus actually "rose from the grave" is what we whose job it is to prosecute people call "hearsay". It won't get you very far in a trial where facts are valued. And claiming it must be true because it's in the Bible is useless. That book contradicts itself multiple times. Even the guys who supposedly followed Jesus around fail to tell the same story! In any court, such testimony would be disregarded.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • SciGuy

      zeus, you are correct that every effect has a cause, by definition. Your mistake is in claiming I said God created himself. He is the eternal, self-existent one who had no beginning. God is not an effect. He is the self-existent cause of all that is.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • G. Baez

      When Jesus was invented the Romans took the Jewish faith and twisted it with Roman mythology, inventing the catholic church. Christians themselves violate their own commandment.
      #1, worshipping other Gods, like Jesus and some holy ghost and all the goofy saints and then the "graven image part with the cross and the dead guy.
      What a mess.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Sorry, dude. Your "answer" is self-conflicting! You lose!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      So special pleading fallacy. Got it.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
  6. Graham Moore

    Bill,
    "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," ?
    With all due respect, that couldn't be farther from reality. My children have no problem understanding the biblical truth of intelligent design. In other words, God as the creator of all that is.
    Trying to explain how something evolved from nothing, however, is not possible. At least not so far as I have found.
    Without a "Creator", there couldn't have been anything to evolve from.
    I love you Bill, but I can't be on board with this one.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'Graham Moore' contains yet another instance of the Argument from Ignorance fallacy.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      August 27, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • ME II

      @Graham Moore,
      Sorry, but in addition to everything the science has learned you also add a infinitely complex being that exists outside of known reality.

      Science or Science + supernatural

      How is that not more complicated?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Evolution doesn't deal with "nothing," dipsh!t, it deals with living organisms.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • Spawn of Satan

      So who created the creator? If a creator can just exist – why can't the universe?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Graham Moore –

      Perhaps Mr. Nye might have chosen his words more carefully. Perhaps he should have said, "If you allow yourself to accept fantastic, unsupported claims as explanations for natural phenomena, your world becomes complicated in that natural phenomena that conflict with your nonsensical beliefs are constantly being presented to you."

      Does that make more sense?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • Andrew

      "Try explaining how something evolved from nothing"

      See, this is the problem with creationists, you've become so warped with your own delusional religious fantasy that you've ceased to even CARE what scientists say. You don't have any interest in listening to opposing views, you've just distilled it into this typical nonsensical 'explain how something evolved from nothing'.

      No one claims anything of the sort happened. Physicists, who deal with the origins of the universe, do not comment on ANYTHING prior to a planck time, because we do not currently have a model of quantum gravity, so we fundamentally cannot explain the universe prior to a planck time. We just don't know enough.

      That means the actual origin of the universe is a big question-mark. It could be literally anything, from your god, to two branes colliding, to an extremely massive quantum fluctuation of a high entropy universe, or, who knows, maybe there really was a state of 'nothingness' and it was highly unstable and collapsed into our universe, physics does not comment on it, scientists say 'we don't know'. Your god may be a comfortable answer, but it's an unsupported answer nonetheless.

      After a planck time, however, physicists have a pretty good idea of what happened.... well, ok, we have 'an' idea of what happened during the GUT epoch, a decent idea of what happened during the inflationary epoch, and a good understanding of the electroweak epoch. Past the electroweak epoch, coming up on the release of the CMB after nucleogenesis, physics describes the evolution of the universe remarkably well.

      Then we come nearly 5 billion years ago to the formation of the earth. Physics does a great job describing accretion, as well as origin of our solar system, but past that, it becomes the chemist and biochemist jobs to explain abiogenesis. Once you have the first living cells, it FINALLY becomes a biologist's field to describe biological evolution.

      If you notice, the theory of evolution is a biological theory, meaning it doesn't need to explain 'how something came from nothing', that's a strawman of what physicists describe. All biologists need to do is show that 'given life, this is what explains the diversity of it', and that they do in remarkable stunning detail.

      You want to imagine scientists have some kinda 'theory of everything', but science is a process that involves more questions, some of which are never answered, than it does 'describe everything'. Your story of genesis attempts to explain the world as people 3000 years ago would have needed it explained, and so you treat scientists as trying to give you the same type of story. They aren't. They have wildly different fields, with different starting postulates, and different lines of evidence. Science is a patchwork, not a single narrative.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Cardiac50

      I suspect they understood the "truth" of the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus as well at some point in their life.. doesn't mean they need to remain ignorant their entire life.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:34 am |
  7. RichardSRussell

    So, if you're a Bible-believing evangelical Christian, riddle me this:

     • Muhammad, founder of Islam, dictated the Koran and claimed it was directly from the creator of the Universe. Do you believe him, or do you think it was fiction?

     • Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonnism, discovered the Book of Mormon and claimed it was directly from the creator of the Universe. Do you believe him, or do you think it was fiction?

     • Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science, wrote Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures and claimed it was inspired by the creator of the Universe. Do you believe her, or do you think it was fiction?

     • L. Ron Hubbard wrote Dianetics, which morphed into Scientology, which he claimed had deep insight into the creator of the Universe. Do you believe him, or do you think it was fiction?

    So here comes the riddle. If your answers to the above were "fiction", "fiction", "fiction", and "fiction", why would you expect any of the rest of us to have a shred of respect for you when you quote the BIble as if it were fact instead of make-believe?

    August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Talmid

      There are many reasons, for the sake of brevity, I'll name two.
      1) The Bible has many authors and one consistent message.
      2) The Bible predicts future events. Here's one example: The predicted return of Israel as an independent and sovereign nation. It was predicted to the day, May 15, 1948.
      http://www.grantjeffrey.com/pdf/JeffBIBLE-EzekVision2.pdf

      August 27, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
  8. Phil Barnhart

    WAIT!!! There is solid experimental proof of creation – just announced by the folks running the large hadron collider. Within the vibration of the neutron. Its not random. By comparing it to the standard photon model, it reveals the message that the Universe was create by the Lord . . . um Brahma? Who is Brahma?

    August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • t3chn0ph0b3

      Nah. Shiva. He's cool. He must've done it. He'll also undo it and laugh. He's way cool.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
  9. niknak

    Not only is science right, but it is so much more interesting than religion.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • JAM

      ...and produces results that every creationist can't live without!!! They use science to communicate and then bash the very medium of their communication as wrong! Hilarious and sad at the same time.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
  10. Reason225

    Creationists need to evolve – thats all

    August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • niknak

      Not likely to happen.
      In fact, they are "doubling down" in Tampa right now at their backward nomination.
      Have you seen what they are putting in their convention language?
      They are going after anyone who has more then a high school diploma as an "elitist."
      The repub party wants to take us back to the 50s, 1850s.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • Reason225

      Well we know what happens when things dont evolve, they tend to get left behind,
      unless you are as efficient and adaptable as sharks. 😉
      And we know Repubs are neither efficient or adaptable.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Bibletruth

      LOL...thats a good one.....where do folks think evolution is heading in say 1000 years...a million years...a billion years, etc.?

      August 27, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Bibletruth

      Virtually all mega atrocities in the world have been perpetrated by the most educated and "civil" people in the world at the time. What does evolution have for us re the H Bomb? The bible is more up to date, always, than any think tank, magazine, newspater, scientific journal, etc. Its obvious that many commenting have little peace including most of the professed Christians commenting. What a shame. The focus of all scripture is Jesus Christ, and He promises "his" peace to all that truly desire it, just as He promises "his" rightousness.

      August 27, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • Bill Who?

      Bibletruth: Are you at peace? I truly hope so. I am not so sure criticizing other christians will gain you the points you may think it des with the evolutionists. I think people have a right to be a bit concerned about the effect the opiion of a TV personality from the past may have on their children's education in the future. It is an important issue and if you look around, the fanatics are the ones who put their faith in theories like evolution and they are forcing themselves on every aspect of life and Bill said it himself, he wants your child taught evolution and the evolutionist will fight to indoctinate every child.

      August 27, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
  11. OrthoPA

    No....that is your assumption... my point is that it seems easier to simplify a potentially inexplicable event into something as simple as... wait, one day there was nothing and nothing created something. Why can't people be satisfied with their own beliefs, because one will never be able to explain the other away, not yet in our "knowledge evolution". And is it your demonstration of intelligence to make a joke of what others post? It has been my experience that people who cannot come up with a truly intelligent response resort to bashing the other person. I never said anything about a Wizard...and boy wont' you be embarrassed if that were ultimately true...Christians and non-believers alike..its a futile endeavor to expect a consensus...

    August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • OOO

      There is a reply button, you know.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      OrthoPA, there are two huge problems with your approach to this issue. First, if you believe in God, there is no reason to seek out the truth about the nature and origin of our universe, whatever that truth may be. Second, if you believe in God, you are compelled to bring others into believing as you believe. Every major religion extols believers to do this. So, THAT is why your view is such a problem.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Al

      exlonghorn, there are two huge problems with your assessment of OrthoPAs approach to the issue. First, all because you believe in God doesn't necessarily mean you do not seek out the truth about nature and the origin of our universe. Second, if one believes in God, he/she is not always compelled to bring others to believe in what he/she believes. And I'll throw in another one. Third, any ideology, religious or otherwise, tends to do the things you describe religion of being guilty of.

      August 27, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • Bibletruth

      "simple" ???? Creationism is a trillion times more complex than the foolishness of evoloution

      August 27, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Considering you can't even manage to spell it, I doubt very much you have the first clue as to what evolution theory says, you simple-minded ninny.

      August 27, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
  12. Barry

    Who is Bill Nye to slam creationism, he's just a mortal man who will die one day and regret his lack of faith in God like all the rest of the fools who go down to the pit.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • sbp

      What makes you think there is a pit? Because your knowledge of your own religion is based on cartoons?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      What a disgusting god you serve.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Prove it.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • Smoothshocker

      I hope in hellthey have an open bar!!

      Hail imaginary, Middle Ages created satan!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'Barry' is a form of the flawed argument known as Pascal's Wager.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Smoothshocker

      I hope in hell they have an open bar!!

      Hail imaginary, Middle Ages created satan!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • UncleM

      And you're just a deluded fool who believes fairy stories. Creationism is not worthy of comparison with the scientific canon of knowledge.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • OOO

      Barry,
      Oh my god, Bill didn't believe! He didn't believe, so lets send him to a pit of fire for eternity. In fact, that's too god for him, I just can't think of anything worse at this time.
      Well anyway, he deserves it! Forget about the fact that I gave him no evidence either. That's just a silly excuse.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Actually hell, and satan were cooked up long before the Medieval period. Angels came from the Sumerian myth, and hellwas o combo meal..Egyptian, Greek, and late Hebrew period. Gehenna was the trash dump outside Jerusalem ,where all the dead carcasses were dumped. The fire was kept buring all the time, and it stunk to high heaven. That got merged with Haedes, and Sheol.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Barry

      If there is no God, then we all have nothing to lose, but if there is...you unbelievers have hell to look forward to for the rest of your days and then some.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • niknak

      What pit?
      What proof do you have of a pit?
      Yes, Bill will die. And so will you.
      And there won't be anything waiting for you.
      Just like there was nothing before you were conceived, there will be nothing after your death.
      Sorry this is so hard for you to understand.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • Smoothshocker

      I know about the history of satan, I am just particularly fond of the Middle Ages, Dante version.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • Barry

      It's unfortunate that Bill Nye didn't start his campaign many years ago, maybe he would have caught you as a child in time before you were brainwashed by your Marvel Comics of Religion parents. People like you scare us Normals....because presented by undeniable evidence of the earths age you continue to stick to your fantasy. I am a Christian...deeply Christian...meaning I believe in those very values of humanity that say I should care for the weak, downtrodden, and poor ..... and not on some fantasy book that was compiled by a bunch of politically motivated Romans that distorted it to their own ends.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • OOO

      You have just as much to worry about because even if there were a god he almost certainly would not be the one you believe in.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Subsequent post by 'Barry' is again a form of the flawed argument known as Pascal's Wager.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      August 27, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • niknak

      So Barry, the only reason you believe is to curry favor with the magic man?
      Don't you think your magic man would know that you really are only "believing" in it because you are hedging your bets?
      If it is all powerfull and all knowing like you said, then it knows you are a fake.
      But go ahead and keep wasting you time, and that of your children beleiving is fairy tales. In fact, keep feeding them religious dogma instead of facts and actual learning, because me kids will be competing with them for the good jobs and the more time they waste with the bible the better.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Barry

      @ niknak – Before you were born you were not a living soul, accountable to God for your actions while in the body, of which you became upon birth. So who doesn't understand? You need the salvation that Christ provided upon Him being sacrificed in your place, without it you are toast. Without accepting Christ in your heart as your Lord and savior then there is no other alternative but hell and separation from God for eternity.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • mnooning

      As a fundamentalist (not literalist) Christian, I see Creationism as a tool of Satan. It all comes down to the fear that Satan instills that the bible may not be true if it cannot be taken literally. Even my literalist friends will say about different scriptures "Oh, well, we know not to take that literally". For instance where they read that the Sun is between the land we stand on and a water dome that the ancients thought was over the earth, above the atmosphere. As children learn the simple Trigonometry with which to measure the millions of light years distance of stars, they think they have to chose between accepting math or Christianity. They leave the church in droves. Satan wins hands down!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
  13. b4bigbang

    sbp

    No, a SCIENTIFIC theory is not just a supposition. It's been tested and confirmed by FACTS. How easy to claim the alternative is "omnipotence." OK, then please explain the mechanism – the physics – of ominpotence. How does god turn Lot's wife into a pillar of salt? How did he turn the Nile to Blood?

    You can't compare a pathway which can be put to the test with one that is, by it's own admission, based on magic.

    The Bible explanation for creation [ie, God created] is actually *less* magic than the current scientific theory.
    The Bible has a designer and builder whereas the naturalistic idea is that the universe just popped into existance for no apparent reason caused by no one – this is the basis of magic.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why do you lie, b4? You have been told repeatedly that this is NOT what those who accept evolution think at all, and yet you continue to vomit it up.

      If you have to lie to make your point, you don't have a point worth making.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      You say "godidit" because you need an explanation to feel better. The honest person says, "I don't know why the universe is here" and deals with the mystery like a grown up. Spit out the pacifier, b4.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • sbp

      Uh, and that "designer and builder" did it HOW? Magic. Or do you have some other mechanism you don't want to divulge. Some sort of NEW physics. Or how about turning Lot's wife into stone? Or the Nile to Blood? "He was able to do it because he can do anything he wants" is saying "he used magical powers."

      August 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Tom tom, the only refutation of my above statement that I remember seeing on these boards was a video provided by one of the commenters where the video guy tried to convince us that because of 'quantum' theory nothing is actually something and something is actually nothing [!].

      If there's another theory re where the big bang came from and what caused it [and of course what caused the cause, ad infinitum] then I would be happy to hear you explain it.

      Otherwise, I think any honest person having common sense would agree that there's merit in my above statement.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
    • sbp

      There's a world of difference between "no one has figured it out yet" and "the only explanation is magic." I don't know exactly how to make a hydrogen bomb. I would say I don't know enough yet, but I could learn it. You would say a hydrogen bomb works by magic.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You must be delusional, b4, or you are simply lying. Either way, you wart, atheists have never said that something came from nothing. What atheists say is that while we do not yet know and may never know what preceded the Big Bang, that does not mean a god must have done it.

      How can you post such drivel? You are as dishonest as HeavenSent.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      b4bigbang, you're aware that mathematical models predict all kinds of fun things like parallel dimensions, black holes, warping of space-time, and the like? How do you think science won't some day fully explain how all of that plays right into how the universe was formed?

      Besides, if God created the universe, what created God?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      @b4

      Big invisible magic man chanting magical incantations does NOT provide any sort of meaningful answer that answers any relevant questions. You know it, and THAT is the truth you cannot escape.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I am so disgusted with you, b4. You really are beyond the pale.

      If you want to argue your belief, go ahead. Don't lie about what atheists think or say.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      @SBP: So you think that by merely removing an intelligence from the creation that the same events are more believable?

      Remember Arthur C Clarke's 3rd 'law': "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

      This 'law' makes perfect sense to millions of theists/agnostics, yet it must be restricted to men and space-aliens?

      Even Einstein was a non-religious theist, and yet i suppose most of the commentors here would interpret that as a flaw in an otherwise superior intellect.
      Sad. An intolerance to any philosophy outside of pure materialism that borders on taliban-level.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      When you lie about what your opponent says, you have already lost the debate, jackazz.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      exlonghorn

      b4bigbang, you're aware that mathematical models predict all kinds of fun things like parallel dimensions, black holes, warping of space-time, and the like? How do you think science won't some day fully explain how all of that plays right into how the universe was formed?

      And if they run the collider at a high-enough energy level and come up with more math to make sense of it all [not necessarily in that order], are you implying that there won't be yet another cosmological frontier to push back even further to?

      If they discover that a primordial cosmegg explodes every 13.43 billion years or so and generates 42 dimensions, won't that merely create more questions ad infinitum?

      On the other hand, the philosophical idea of an architech for existance makes better philosophical sense, and this may indeed be why Einstein was a Theist rather tan an atheist.

      Besides, if God created the universe, what created God?

      God, by definition, is eternal, having no beginning nor end; that's the beauty of this philosophy; it solves 1st cause for existance.

      August 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
  14. Chris

    Evolution does not disprove a creator.

    I've watched the video and Bill Nye never said anything about creationism. He was talking about people who deny evolution.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
  15. jltdubs

    Evolution is a testable, observable phenomenon. Creationism is not. Plain and simple. Go on ahead and believe what you want, but one can be proven through science, the other cannot. In the past, religion and myths and miracles were used to explain what we did not understand, could not explain. We now look to logic and particle science and laws of physics to explain–with scientific evidence–what we could not in the past. Technology has helped tremendously with this endeavor.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • OrthoPA

      You are correct. Evolution is testable. What isn't testable is what occurred before the "first"... whatever? Perhaps we CAN trace everything back to "the beginning" but what occurred to make "the beginning" possible? Where there is an event, there is also a precursor.......

      August 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      OrthoPA,
      Nope. At, (or a singularity time does not exist. There was no "before" time existed. Too bad. No "procursor" needed,

      August 27, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Bibletruth

      Evolution is a testable, observable thing?????????????????? Wow. Gone with the need for billions and billions of years and into realty. My multi-PHD scientist friends (Geology, archeology, physics, chemistry, genetics and things you havnt even heard of) just smile and shake their heads. Yes, the ones I am talking about are Christians. My how definitions change and criteria are fluid. lol

      August 28, 2012 at 1:29 am |
  16. Smoothshocker

    I have seen Jesus!!!!

    He works at this bodega down the street from me that makes a killer rice and beans! Yummy!

    August 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • t3chn0ph0b3

      ...and he's one hell of a bowler.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • OOO

      ... and a pedder too. 8 year olds.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • Smoothshocker

      Actually he is a stand up famiily man, overall great guy. How very Christian of you...

      August 27, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
  17. malw

    ok, still doesnt alter my view. God is great. No one can definitively say when/where/how it all began with regards to the origins of earth and man. God knows though.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • t3chn0ph0b3

      Which god?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'malw' contains an instance of the Argument from Ignorance fallacy.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • ME II

      The Theory of Evolution doesn't say anything about God. It does not preclude God, it just doesn't require one.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • sbp

      How do you KNOW that god knows? What is your basis to believe God would know such a thing?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Not if she doesn't exist.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Fallacy spotting, I'm enjoying your posts.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
  18. t3chn0ph0b3

    If God exists, He's a big-time frigging jerk.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • Smoothshocker

      Yes, yes and yes! God lets little kids suffer and die of cancer. God needs a good butt kicking!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Diablo135

      Mr Nye, if you want to live in your world, that fine. But don't tell me and 4 Billion other people that we are wrong. Who are you to tell me I'm wrong for believing in God?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • mydogbill

      All war is a result of mans sins. If the whole world struggled against their sins the world would be a much, much better place.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
  19. 22X Richer

    Billy, you should stay out of politics. We all know that is what it comes down to – politics.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I know I'm going to regret asking this, but how does this come down to politics?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • 22X Richer

      So, according to Billy here the possibility of a scientist discovering great things while still believing in a higher being of sorts is inconsistent. He may be a mechanical engineer but he isn't much of a history buff. Quite a few scientists have religious beliefs yet still manage to tie their shoes and advance scientific knowledge. Amazing.

      Dad always told me engineers were the worst sort of people who thought they knew literally everything. Dad was right.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You said a bunch of nonsense, but you didn't answer my question.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
  20. evilroyslade

    The Bible(s) STORIES give us hope, science gives us theories with facts but no hope.

    August 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • t3chn0ph0b3

      Science gives us the hope that humanity can survive beyond this planet, which is the only way humanity can survive in the long run. If we're counting on this tiny bubble in space being habitable, we're not going to be around for long.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • Bob

      Slade, that's only the case if within your definition of "hope" you include some pretty horrid violence, which the Christian book of nasty has plenty of. Fine stuff like this:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      August 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      What the hell are you people hoping for anyway?

      August 27, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • sbp

      In other words, you admit you believe BECAUSE it makes you feel better. Maybe you should believe WWII never happened.

      August 27, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • HahaUrFunny

      @Bob

      love the reply and scripture quotes ... wish I could list ALL of them too. Then again, they would find some way to say the NT overrides the authority of the OT, and it goes on and on and on ... great post, thanks!

      August 27, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
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