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August 30th, 2012
03:53 PM ET

Convention’s Mormon speakers expected to shed light on Romney’s faith life

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) – Mitt Romney is famously quiet about his Mormon faith, but his campaign has said that some of Thursday’s speakers at the Republican National Convention will shed light on the candidate’s role in the church and that Romney may open about his faith, too.

Thursday’s invocation will be delivered by Ken and Priscilla Hutchins, Mormons whom Romney befriended in their Massachusetts ward the word Mormons use for church. Another Romney Mormon friend and former co-worker, Grant Bennett, will deliver a prime-time speech.

The speakers are part of the campaign’s broader attempt to humanize Romney at this week’s convention, which has played host to a prominent speech by Romney’s wife, Ann, and will feature speeches from more Romney friends on Thursday.

Campaign aides have hinted that Bennett would talk about Romney’s leadership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Bennett was a bishop in Romney’s ward, serving after Romney had been bishop the rough equivalent of a minister or priest in the early 1980s. The Romney campaign has said that a church leader would speak Thursday about the experience of trying to “"fill Gov. Romney's shoes."

That leader appears to be Bennett, who talked to CNN’s Gloria Borger this year about following Romney as a bishop.

As soon as he stepped into the bishop’s role, Bennett told Borger, he was moved by his predecessor’s humility. Romney had just stepped down as a Mormon stake president the rough equivalent of a bishop in the Catholic Church. But Romney immediately approached Bennett about his next assignment, saying he’d “look forward to any assignment that you’ll give me.”

That first post-leadership assignment turned out to be Sunday school teacher.

“It was a wonderful example of the idea that in the church we rotate and serve each other and learn from each other,” Bennett said.

He also spoke of Romney’s frugality. After a busy day of church meetings, a volunteer would always be tasked with making sure every light was turned off and that all the doors were locked. Romney has a “sort of a visceral dislike for waste,” Bennett said, and “would never leave the building without walking through every room and turning off every light.”

A key episode in Romney’s stint as bishop was a destructive fire at his ward’s almost-completed Mormon meeting house in Belmont, Massachusetts. It was a suspected arson, though the cause of the fire was ultimately unknown.

Following the blaze, various nearby houses of worship Catholic, Protestant and Jewish invited the Mormon ward to meet in their buildings while it rebuilt. Bennett said that Romney’s response was telling: He decided that the ward would meet in a handful of different houses of worship as a way to build ties in a community that seemed suspicious of Mormonism.

“He did it that way both to express appreciation to accept the offer of help but also to simply get to know our neighbors. … He saw this as a bridge-building opportunity,” Bennett said. “And it really did set the stage for the church being in Belmont, perhaps more actively involved really in interfaith kinds of relationships certainly than we had been.”

Bennett worked under Romney at Bain Capital but said he was always impressed with Romney’s emphasis on family and service rather than just making money.

Could some of those themes emerge in Bennett’s Thursday speech? He didn’t reply to requests for comments this week.

Ken Hutchins, who with his wife will give the invocation Thursday, is not expected to speak specifically about Romney’s faith. But he told the Deseret News this month that Romney, while serving as stake president for the church, tapped him to be a bishop. The Deseret News paints a nice picture of the relationship:

… (T)he two men could not have been more different. Romney, the son of an auto industry CEO and former governor, was the CEO of Bain Capital. Hutchins, the son of a union organizer for mill workers in Massachusetts, was chief of police in a small town. … Together, he and Romney carted Mormon teenagers all over Boston for youth activities, figured out to build congregations for a burgeoning community of foreign-speaking Mormon immigrants in inner city Boston, and helped bring a Mormon temple to Boston.

"We had some just outrageous, wonderful, memory-stoking youth events," Hutchins told the Deseret News. "Mitt was an integral part of those memories. I spent time with him there and talked with him and got to live with him so to speak. He was a terrific leader."

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Mormonism • Politics

soundoff (552 Responses)
  1. SteveG.

    Does Mr. Romney dutifully wear his "sacred undergarments"? If so, what sort of protective properties will they provide him if he occupies the Oval Office? Heh. Mormonism is funny ; )

    August 30, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
  2. magnum12

    Why are some Mormon beliefs harder to accept than other Christian beliefs, such as Moses talking to God as a burning bush, Moses parting the red sea, a donkey talking to Balaam, 3 people do not burn in a furnace hot enough to melt steel, Jesus walking on water or feeding 5000 people with 2 fish and 3 loaves, changing water into wine, or bringing the dead back to life and many more such examples throughout the Bible?

    August 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • Martin

      Easy, because the Christian ones are right and all other ones are wrong.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Hoos

      They both are beliefs in the supernatural. The difference is that with Mormonism is that we still have some of the evidence of their supernatural claims. You can find a copy of the scroll that Joseph Smith "translated" their book of Abraham into. The actual translation and Smiths are quite different among other evidence to the contrary to of their scriptures.

      Hence... they are easily provably based off a false prophet.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
  3. Gregery

    I'm pretty sure you're wrong.

    August 30, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
  4. doug

    To all the idiots who think Obama is NOT a Christian but a Muslim – Romney IS a Mormon which IS a cult and NOT Christian!!! So put that in your religious bias and smoke it......

    August 30, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      Let us not forget that he is a liar and he surrounds himself with liars.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • king

      Define religion? Define God...

      August 30, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      @king
      "Define religion? Define God..."

      That sounds like a really good rainy day project for you there kingy, have at it!

      August 30, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • KRC

      You are spot on, Doug, thank you!

      August 30, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • KRC

      VERY good one! The sheeple always want those "christian" folk (of the RIGHT KIND) as the President!
      Unfortnately, Mr. Romney brings a truly BIZZARE belief system to the White House!
      (Fortunately – for Romney – NO one has even brought up those bizarre "extraterrestrial" links in Mormonism).

      August 30, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
  5. chris

    The difficulty is this: Mormonism has a unique view of itself in American history. This is not like the “Catholic issue” when John Kennedy was running for president in 1960. Kennedy was able to look the press straight in the eye and tell them that if he were elected president, he would not be allowing the pope or his archbishop in Boston to dictate how he would run the country. That satisfied the press and pretty much quelled the Catholic issue. There was hardly a peep during the 2004 election about John Kerry's Catholicism (unfortunately!).

    But Mormonism is different, and Mitt Romney's roots run deep into the LDS religion. It could be argued that Kennedy was a lousy Catholic. Both he and his father Joseph Kennedy were notorious philanderers and adulterers. But Romney takes his faith very, very seriously.

    Like his father, George Romney - who ran unsuccessfully for president a generation ago (1968) - Mitt is a high priest in the Church priesthood hierarchy. What cost George Romney the candidacy was the LDS Church's stand on race. Until 1978, the LDS Church taught that black people were “loathsome, filthy and lazy” (Mormon leaders' words, NOT mine) and that no black could ever hold the priesthood until all white men had received it. But, in 1978, the Church received a “revelation” changing that teaching. However, young Mitt Romney grew up believing this loathsome doctrine about blacks! That belief alone might be cause for concern.

    August 30, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • deecoastal

      The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints never taught or believed those things about Blacks. That doesn't mean that some lesser members did. That is not acceptable. Please stop saying that the Church did or does. Yes, the Church did not move forward as quickly as it should have, but it is not perfect. The situation was not only rectified, but the Church has a huge missionary effort throughout Black nations in Africa and is growing exponentially there. We have no prejudice. Except as individuals who fail miserably as people and as all Christians do.
      Christianity is about trying harder to be better people. Mormons do that. And they believe without reservation that Christ is our Lord and Savior. Mormons follow Christ's example and try to do better – BUT, the LDS Church will never compromise the word of Christ and the gospel teachings of Christ to pacify the masses.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • skarphace

      deecoastal: "the LDS Church will never compromise the word of Christ and the gospel teachings of Christ to pacify the masses."

      That is a very good argument as to why Romney should not be allowed to run for POTUS. Thank you.

      August 30, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
  6. bryes

    There sure is a lot of Hate in these comments. I hope it makes you all feel more Christian.

    August 30, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      If you want real hate become a Christian.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Or an Atheist. Hate is not limited to one belief or non-belief. It's just disliking someone because they do not look, believe, love the same as you. I have seen post from some Atheist here that would make Rev Terry Jones proud but I have also seen Atheist post that would make Mother Teresa proud.

      Atheist or Faithful have both shown their positive and negative sides. Maybe its because we all humans.

      August 30, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
  7. chris

    The pious world of BYU was expected to spawn the man who would lead the Mormons into the White House and fulfill the prophecies of the church’s founder, Joseph Smith Jr., which Romney has avidly sought to realize.

    Romney avoids mentioning it, but Smith ran for president in 1844 as an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church. He had predicted the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong” — a leader who would “set in order the house of God” — and became the first of many prominent Mormon men to claim the mantle.

    August 30, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
  8. deecoastal

    It never ceases to amaze me the length people will go to spew hatred and bullying. People who make completely wrong, hateful, ignorant and prejudiced comments about the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints, do so while decrying that very hate, deceit, bullying, inequality, prejudice, etc. etc. etc. If you have any understanding about Christianity, you will need to admit that you are demonstrating the most UN-CHRISTIAN behavior possible. Mormons have the 4th largest membership of any church in America. Mormons' first, foremost and singular belief is that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior.
    If you want to dispute anything about the LDS Church's doctrine, please compare and contrast it against the 3 larger churches of membership, including Catholics, Methodists, and Baptists. These churches have doctrines that have been less than perfect throughout their histories. Please – try to show that you have a brain, and not shame yourself with your demonstration of sheer ignorance, stupidity and bigotry – all in the name of Christianity.
    I'm tired of hearing it. Mitt Romney has more integrity, character, class, generosity of spirit and material goods than most and can stand among the greatest of Christians. If you want to chastise Mormons, and MItt Romney, you need to clean your own houses first. No Christian is perfect, but really – is this how you compare yourselves?

    August 30, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • peter

      christendom rejects the koran and the book of mormon as the word of God–you sir are not a christian–you believe that the book of mormon written by joespeh smith and published in 1830 is the word of God–you believe in that testament of jesus christ that joeseph smith proclaimed to you–the truth is the book of mormon is not the word of God and the jesus christ you believe in is false and cursed as is your prophet

      August 30, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Lew

      How funny your words sound, I was in the church for 36 yrs, did you know that Elder Delbert Stapley sent then gov George Romney a letter warning him not to support the civil rights law, and even quoted Joseph Smith as saying the following, " lets sell the land the Nefgros are on and send them back from whince they came" Now deecoastal, time you get out of the fog, that letter can be found in a PDF go to George Romney on wippedia, scroll down to bnumber 125, it will read Stapley letter, KIMBALL, BENSON, HUNTER, HICKLEY, MONSON, WERE ALL APOSTLES BACK IN JAN 1964 WHEN THIS LETTER WAS WROTE, AND KNEW OF IT.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • college_student

      I used to have a good impression of the Mormons until the following happened to a neighbors' daughter a few years break. She was a 16 year old pregnant child. Neither she nor her parents believed in abortion. They would put up the child for adoption. They approached a Mormon agency. Initially their agent visited the family. Initially he said there would be many families who would want to adopt the child of this blue-eyed, blond teenager. When he found out the baby was bi-racial his tune changed that there were not so many black mormon families waiting to adopt. When my neighbors expressed surprise his comments was "you want her to be with her own kind, don't you." Is this not raciast? Her own kind? I know this for a fact. Ever since I have lost my respect for Mormons. And these people want to spread their message to all the world and convert every last soul.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  9. ldean50

    After the speach, I'd encourage you to go to thesalamandersociety.com and read under the heading of "Features," the Black Sheep Roster. These are first-person stories from people who have suffered under the LDS Church and by the grace of a non-mormon god managed to escape and start a new life. Then decide who you want to be your president. Mormonism is a corporate cult.

    August 30, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
  10. TG

    The 1st century Christians had no part in politics, closely adhering to Jesus words to be "no part of the world."(John 15:19) In the book A History of Christianity, by Francois P. G. Guizot, in the introduction, it stated that "There were many reasons which led the populace to hate Christians, whom, first of all, they regarded as being unpatriotic. While among Romans it was considered the highest honor to possess the privileges of Roman citizenship, the Christians announced that they were citizens of heaven. They shrank from public office and military service."

    However, beginning in the 2nd century, the Christian congregation that Jesus established in 29 C.E., began to apostasize (comes from the verb a·phi´ste·mi, literally meaning “stand away from") or fall away from Jesus true teachings. Jesus had given an illustration concerning this apostasy at Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, fully expecting this to happen and warning his genuine disciples ("wheat" in the illustration), whereby counterfeit "Christians" ("weeds" in the illustration, "tares" in the King James Bible) would be noted as having been planted by "an enemy" (the Devil, Matt 13:39) in among the "wheat" or genuine Christians, with these growing together until "the harvest".(Matt 13:30)

    Thus, Mr Romney and the Mormon faith is a part of the counterfeit "Christians" who have veered off the course that Jesus gave to his disciples, following the course that Satan the Devil has laid out through the "weeds" or "tares", apostate Christians, who have accepted politics as part of their "Christian" faith, despite the fact that Jesus said concerning his genuine disciples that they were to be "no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world" to his heavenly Father, Jehovah God.(John 17:16)

    August 30, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
    • deecoastal

      You present a seemingly substantiated argument. However, you are mistaken about why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was established on this earth. It is actually about that very apostasy, that the Church was re-established following closely the original church that Jesus created himself.
      To understand this, you have to seek personal confirmation. You may not believe that the LDS Church is what it claims to be, but you cannot condemn the principles upon which it is founded without condemning the very name of Christ. The total Bible that you read today – if you even read it in the King James Version – was compiled a thousand years after Christ. The "new" Bibles that you read today are even further interpreted by "scholars" with questionable understanding of the ancient Greek and Hebrew languages from which it is translated. The Bible itself wasn't even read by the public until about 400 years ago when the printing press made it possible.
      The LDS Church and its members – Mormons – actually adhere more closely to that original church than almost all other churches today. Believe it or not. That's your choice. But your condemnation and reference to the adversary, only serves to create the hateful atmosphere that Christianity is supposed to abhor. Be careful when you quote scripture to your own end and purpose. Christ never professed that you do that, but made it clear that your actions will speak louder than words. But, your words obviously reflect your thoughts and – in no way are they Christian in nature.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • KRC

      The absolute "truth" will NEVER be found on anything even remotely linked to the GOP!

      August 30, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
  11. Aren't Christians Supposed to be like Christ

    Captain Moroni – Your quotes from the Book of Mormon do sound like Gospel and they do speak of God.
    Having studied religion in College it seems to me that all religions have certain aspects which in modern values are disgracefull.
    The Old Testiment has God's Chosen people doing very bad things: Killing Women and Children.
    The New Testiment has a Man holding the coats for some men as they kill others but then he repents and uses his Status as a Roman to forward his new found religion.
    The Catholic Church has it's Paid Indulgences, where a man could pay money in advance for repentance from a sin he is going to committ.
    The Lutherin Church would not be proud of Martin Luther pushing the princes to kill all people who burned catholic churches after he returned.
    It goes on and on...
    You should not judge the past by the Values and Morals of the Present or you will always be disappointed.
    Some persecute the Mormon Church for Feeling the Blacks were inferior, yet forget that not to much earlier this country had passed laws to provide seperate drinking fountains and schools and busses, etc... Why are Modern Mormons Bad, but Modern Americans Good?
    I beleive Being Christian has more to do with Doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, than vilifying any person or group. Christ did teach by their fruits shall ye know them. Not by their beliefs but by their fruits.
    Christians need to come together in Unity regardless of their beliefs.

    August 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • peter

      First off you are a member of the lds–second the reason why the lds aka mormons are not christians has nothing to do with blacks–The book of mormon is not the word of God–it is blasphemy–It is not another testament of jesus christ–the koran nor the book of mormon is the word of God

      August 30, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • Norm

      peter – I'm pretty sure being christian means that you worship christ retard. Mormons believe in the bible, book of mormon, and christ. So therefore they are Christians. Congratulations on not knowing jack now GTFO. – A person who used to be Mormon and then quit.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • peter

      norm–the book of mormon does not preach jesus christ–It is a false antichrist–But i am glad you rejected that cursed religion and out of darkness–Thats where the prophet and his cursed christ lead people–into darkness. A lot of people write books and claim it to be another testament of jesus christ–joeseph smith is by no means the first or last–but it would of been better for joeseph smith if he was never born

      August 30, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      LOL @peter

      August 30, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
  12. alpg49

    I used to think Mormons were really moral, ethical people. Now Romney has exposed them as a bunch of serial liars. Lying to themselves, as well as others.

    August 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • Matt

      What an idiotic statement this is. Well, maybe it's true since Harry Reid is a mormon and he's the biggest liar in Washington.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • Sorry to Hear That

      I am sorry that your entire view of many people are based on a politician. I would personally never stereo-type anyone from any politician.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Wow

      So, based on your logic, I should conclude that all people of your religion, or lack thereof, are bigots who judge millions of people on the behavior of one.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • engineerfla

      By what do you mean he is a serial liar? Please explain to us instead of throwing out insults.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • ThinkClearly

      Don't project your perceptions of one individual onto a whole group of people. Think clearly.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • engineerfla

      Let us hear your infinite knowledge alpg49 instead of trolling CNN stories and throwing out random statements. Stand by your stance.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
  13. The Sealed Seven

    When we have control of the White House, a new age of prosperity will arrive for all true believers of New Jerusalem.
    The Bishop will become our Pope, and our wealth will increase a thousandfold.
    All the unbelievers and others of that ilk will be punished and everything will be taken from them.
    Hail Romney! Our Holy Bishop is near His Throne!

    August 30, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Golob of Kolob

      Mrs. Romney reports to me and don't you forget that.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
  14. TalibanTabernacle

    Why apologize to people whom god has cursed? They are only useful as slaves for the Mormons, God's Chosen People.
    Mormons are the New Jews who are blessed by money through useful lies. The old Jews had better look out.

    August 30, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @TT,

      curiously enough, 1.7% of Americans are Jews and a separate 1.7% of Americans are Mormons.

      The idea that one can be as influential a group as the other, is quite sound.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • Stephanie

      That's definitely not what the LDS/Mormon church believes... Please tell me that you're joking.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
  15. Bman

    Romney has no faith he just was raised by Mormons and he wants to be president. He'll say or do anything to get elected. That's the story. One thing I do find interesting is in many of the pictures I have viewed of him, he is not looking at the camera. That means one thing only to me, Deception.

    August 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
    • peter

      bman–no–he believes in the false religion of his fathers–If it was true what you said he would of rejected the cursed religion of his fathers and converted to christendom because he has to know that there are republicans like me who will sit out the gen election because of his lds religion. So, in my opinion he really believes that the book of mormon is the word of God as all mormons. Which is why he will most likely lose–This is a base election

      August 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • engineerfla

      How is that different from anyone else? I'm not saying I am for or against but you provide absolutely no facts or argument in your statement. Say something useful instead of sitting on your $$$ watching America's got talent.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Please Dont Contact ME

      Do you know why he was born in Mexico? Because his mother and father were living in a polygamous community where they would not be prosecuted in Mexico.

      August 31, 2012 at 1:10 am |
  16. Willis

    It is Amazng that the lds never did formaly apolagize to the African Americans for all the SEVERE Racist Scriptures of the Horrible men of dark Skin. Yall Tabby Nackles are not the face of Cristianity in any way shape or form!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    August 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Howard

      AMAZING HOW LIBERTARDS LABEL EVERYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH THEM AS RACISTS ...
      AND, YET THEY ARE COMPLETELY INTOLERANT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S BELIEFS.
      MORE LIBERTARD HYPOCRISY !!!

      August 30, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
  17. SafeJourney

    Google white horse prophecy, Dont you think Bishop Romney really believes this. While you are at it google lying for the lord.
    Its a mormon thing

    August 30, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • Howard

      THE MORMONS NEVER FLEW PLANES INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ... OR ENGAGED IN HONOR KILLINGS ... AND, THEY NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE CRUSADES, OR THE INQUISITIONS EITHER !!!

      August 30, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Bman

      They have unfortunately committed the unforgivable offense of Cap-locked commenting. Give them time they'll find a way to do all those infamous things in the name of their supposed god.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • TR6

      @Howard: "THEY NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE CRUSADES, OR THE INQUISITIONS EITHER"

      Google "The Mountain Meadows Massacre". Mormon hands are just as bloody as every other religion

      August 30, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • engineerfla

      He is not a bishop, he was a bishop.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • SafeJourney

      thanks TR6, I did not know about The Mountain Meadows Massacre.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • SafeJourney

      engineer, my mormon friends still call him bishop Romney

      August 30, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • engineerfla

      @safejourney, well in that case......

      August 30, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
  18. Seyedibar

    great. So yet another ridiculous religion joins the club at clouding political effectiveness and social progress. They should just call the GOP the "We'll Believe Anything If It's Written On a Scroll or Golden Plates" Party.

    August 30, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
    • Howard

      SPOKEN LIKE A TYPICAL IRREVERENT DISRESPECTFUL LIBERTARD A HOLE !!!

      August 30, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Seyedibar,

      the GOP is the party of "we'll tell the believers anything they want to hear to get elected".

      The price they pay for this is that the American Taliban (who really owns all the believers' votes) holds the leash to their choke collar

      August 30, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Seyedibar

      Religions deserve contempt, not respect. We shouldn't reward people for their delusions.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
    • Stephanie

      Just like to point our that the Mormon church does not support any party or candidate. There are democrat Mormons...
      http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/official-statement/political-neutrality

      August 30, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Stephanie,

      of course there are Stephanie – like Sen. Harry Reid, Dem.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
  19. skarphace

    The real problem with America is that 40-47% of Americans, when polled, consistently say that they believe that the Earth was created less than 10,000 years ago.

    These people are voting people into office who believe the same way they do and they are basing their policies on this misguided faith. How are we to claim that America is an intellectual leader in the world when almost half of us do not believe in basic science?

    August 30, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Stephanie

      I'm Mormon and I don't believe that the Earth was created less than 10,000 years ago. Scientists estimate that the Earth was created (or came about) about 4.5 billion years ago, and the evidence shows that they're probably right.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Yup, scary isn't it.

      In a democracy even the stupid can vote. The Const'tution tried to fix this with the creation of the Electoral College. Now we have the science of electioneering where by application of clever analysis we can determine that a handful of such potentially stupid people in a couple of counties in OH and PA will elect our next President.

      I vote for the 28th Amendment – abolishion of the Electoral College and Presidential Elections by popular vote!

      August 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Stephanie,

      presumably you are one of the 32% of Americans who believe that God used evolution as his process of 'creation'?

      August 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Ooops – "Abolition" of the Electoral College

      August 30, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • Bman

      I was reading an article today about Yosemite National Park and a possible super volcano erupting from that caldera. Isn't that close to Utah? I might have to augment my all time favorite sport of hurricane season with geology and hope for a double play!

      August 30, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Bman,

      perhaps you mean "Yellowstone".

      It is not particularly close to Utah and the jet stream will carry the ejecta east rather than west. If there is a major eruption of the Yellowstone caldera, it will be a disaster of biblical proportions.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • engineerfla

      I do not understand how you are making the connection to America's lack of scientific knowledge, which I completely disagree with you, to political understanding. I guess I sort of understand how you are trying to state that American's are scientifically stupid to our inability to vote according to your standards. Please do enlighten us to how we should vote utilizing some sort of factual statement instead of a pathetically researched topic on Wikipedia.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • engineerfla

      @Bman, yes, on a certain scale Utah is close to Yosemite, but holy canary you are geographically stupid. Do us all a favor and google your comments prior to posting them. Wow, and these are the people throwing their opinions out on how they think the rest of the nation should vote. Bman's comment validates a lot of other opinions on this site.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @engineerinfla

      I assume through your handle, you claim you are an engineer. Do you believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old?

      46% of Americans believe in Creationism – the notion that God created the world "as is" less than 10,000 years ago.
      32% of Americans believe that God used evolution as his process of 'creation', which to me seems like a reasonable synthesis of belief and science.

      46% of Americans are willing to ignore what by any objective standard is reality and replace it with a literal translation of a translation of cosmology myths borrowed from ancient Mesopotamians – and they vote. That doesn't frighten you?

      August 30, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • engineerfla

      I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV: First off, thank you. Thank you for being one of the first intelligent posts on this article. I am not disagreeing with you. What I am disagreeing with is random "experts" posting what they think is the best course for us to vote BUT providing ZERO evidence or proof to back it up. Again, I do not disagree with you. Also, I do not claim to be an engineer, I am one by trade. Thanks again for posting a useful explanation of your beliefs.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • Stephanie

      @I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV:
      Personally, I don't know how man was created. There is evidence to support the theory of evolution, but right now, my opinion on it is that I don't know, because I wasn't there.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @engineerinfla,

      the percentages come from here:
      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/27/bill-nye-slams-creationism/

      Where almost 14,000 votes have been compiled. @skarphace's comment is spill-over from there.

      I have seen these statistics elsewhere. If you break it down according to religious demographics, most of the 46% are likely to be Protestant Christians. While not saying they vote en-bloc, by amount, they represent half of the vote.

      August 30, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Ooops – 'posts' not 'votes'. Freudian slip there.

      August 30, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • engineerfla

      @Stephanie, you seem like a realistic person and that is great. I don't know for a fact as well, I was not there either!
      @ I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV, thanks again for your comments utilizing some facts instead of the typical baseless comments from a bunch of bored lazy folks at home (which I am trending in that direction right now)

      August 30, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
  20. No Longer a Mormon

    Folks – the day I learned that:
    a. there was no way in the world that a submarine filled with Jews and landed in Central America,
    b. and the Jews were greeted by Jesus Christ
    c. that the Native Americans were somehow decendents or related to the Jews from the sub

    I gave up my Mormon faith and began to carry the cross of Jesus Christ of Christianity. And I'm extremely happy!

    August 30, 2012 at 8:27 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      I hope that in a short while you will complete your deprogramming and fully extract yourself from the christian cult.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      You men you had to actually learn that ?
      I have news for you. You have a few more things to lean.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • Seyedibar

      It's quite normal for people to leave one cult for another.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    • Howard

      GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE ... YOUR CONDESCENDING SUPERIORITY IS NAUSEATING.

      THE MORMONS NEVER FLEW PLANES INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ... OR ENGAGED IN HONOR KILLINGS ... AND, THEY NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE CRUSADES, OR THE INQUISITIONS EITHER !!!

      August 30, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
    • fp737

      Your sensationalized description of the Book of Mormon account of the Jaredite migration to the new world is dishonest and beneath you. It's too bad you choose to resort to these kind of distortions.

      If Jesus Christ whom you worship could:

      1) Be born of a virgin.
      2) Turn water into wine.
      3) Walk on water
      4) Bring a dead man back to life.
      5) Harness an astronomical amount of energy to halt a storm and waves on a large body of water.
      6) Read people's minds.
      7) Come back to life after being subjected to Roman crucifixion – - one of the most brutal forms of execution imaginable.
      and 8) Ascend into the sky after said resurrection – - – -

      paying a visit to the Americas would seem to be a walk in the park for Him.

      There may be several reasons to not be a Mormon, but the ones you gave are not valid in light of the equally if not more supernatural belief you profess.

      August 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • Bman

      Great, I salute you as a free person, but did you have to give up one set of chains just to take up a different set?

      August 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
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