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Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video
"The idea of deep time ... explains so much of the world around us," Bill Nye said in the viral video.
August 31st, 2012
04:34 PM ET

Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - Bill Nye's viral YouTube video pleading with parents not to teach their children to deny evolution has spawned an online life of its own, with prominent creationists hitting back against the popular TV host.

"Time is Nye for a Rebuttal," Ken Ham the CEO of Answers in Genesis writes on his website. Answers in Genesis is the Christian ministry behind the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky.

Nye's criticism of creationism went viral earlier this week, after being posted last Thursday.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it," Nye says in his Big Think video, which has been viewed nearly 3 million times.

Ham writes that Nye is joining in with other evolutionists who say teaching children to deny evolution is a form of "child abuse." That idea comes in part from the atheist scientist Richard Dawkins, who in his book "The God Delusion" argues against exposing children to religion before they are old enough to fully understand it.

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"At AiG and the Creation Museum, we teach children and adults the truth concerning who they are in the Creator’s eyes — and where they came from," Ham writes. "We tell people that they do have purpose and meaning in life and that they were created for a purpose. "No, we are not just evolved animals as Nye believes; we are all made in the image of God."

Ham is the public face of a group that academics call Young Earth Creationists, though they prefer to be called Biblical Creationists. They believe in a literal interpretation of the creation account in the book of Genesis found in the Bible.

The Creation Museum also produced its own rebuttal video on YouTube that features two of their staff scientists, both Ph.Ds, David Menton and Georgia Purdom.

"[Nye] might be interested to know I also teach my young daughter about evolution and I know many Christian parents who do the same," Purdom says in the video. "Children should be exposed to both ideas concerning our past."

For the past 30 years, one popular method for Creationists to advance their cause has been to make an equal-time argument,with Creationism taught alongside evolution. In the late 1980s, some state legislatures passed bills that promoted the idea of a balanced treatment of both ideas in the classroom.

In 1987, the issue made it all the way to the Supreme Court, where a Louisiana "equal-time law" was struck down. The court ruled that teaching creationism in public school class rooms was a violation of the Establishment Cause in the Constitution, which is commonly referred to as the separation of church and state.

A key point between most scientists and many creationists is the timing for the origin of the world.

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Nye's argument falls in line with the vast majority of scientists, who date the age of the earth as 4.5 billion years old and the universe as 14.5 billion years old.

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye says in his viral video.

Young Earth Creationists say the weeklong account of God creating the earth and everything in it represents six 24-hour periods (plus one day of rest) and date the age of the earth between 6,000 and 10,000 years.

"Yes we see fossils and distant stars, but the history on how they got there really depends on our worldview," Purdom says in the museum's rebuttal. "Do we start with man's ideas, who wasn't here during man's supposed billions of years of earth history or do we start with the Bible, the written revelation of the eyewitness account of the eternal God who created it all?"

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Polling from Gallup has shown for the past 30 years that between 40-46% of the survey respondents believe in Creationism, that God created humans and the world in the past 10,000 years.

The most recent poll showed belief in atheistic evolution was on the rise at 16%, nearly double what it had been in previous years. The poll also found 32% of respondents believe in evolution guided by God.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Creationism • Science

soundoff (5,973 Responses)
  1. inachu

    The only thing I do not like about fellow christians is all they are concerned about is faith when they go to church on sundays. In the Bible it says you must worship in spirit and in truth but today they all just owrry about the spirit minus the truth. Science is truth and they get all hush hush hush about it.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
  2. crabcorewat

    "Do we start with man's ideas, who wasn't here during man's supposed billions of years of earth history or do we start with the Bible, the written revelation of the eyewitness account of the eternal God who created it all?"

    This had me rolling on the floor. An "eyewitness account", thats rich, I'm going to write an amazing fantasy and say its true. What? You don't believe me? Trust me guys, I saw it happen, I swear

    September 6, 2012 at 11:54 am |
  3. jake

    So they're attacking a scientist's criticism of creationism with more creation theories. I guess there's no accounting for belief in fairy tales. I went to junior high at a private christian school in MS, and they taught creation as fact. Evolution was considered an abomination by our "science" teacher. The facts of science do not match up with the the beliefs that creationists have. I personally like to stick to the facts. Some people like to just believe things happen in a mystical way, so let 'em. I don't let it bother me. I'll teach my children facts and science and let them decide if religion is worth their time.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:10 am |
  4. HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

    USGS:" Nevertheless, scientists have been able to determine the probable age of the Solar System and to calculate an age for the Earth by assuming that the Earth and the rest of the solid bodies in the Solar System formed at the same time and are, therefore, of the same age."

    September 6, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

      Notice the mighty big assumption paid for by the Masters.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • Huebert

      When is that quote from the 1950's?

      September 6, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

      bert, http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html

      September 6, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • Huebert

      My mistake, I understand now. Yes it is true the earth formed at about the same time as the rest of the solar system. I thought it said the earth is formed at the same time as the universe, hence my wt-f moment.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  5. HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

    USGS:"So far scientists have not found a way to determine the exact age of the Earth directly from Earth rocks because Earth's oldest rocks have been recycled and destroyed by the process of plate tectonics. If there are any of Earth's primordial rocks left in their original state, they have not yet been found."

    September 6, 2012 at 11:07 am |
    • Huebert

      That is why we tested moon rocks. The moon is made from the same rocks as earth but it is geologically dead. The moon is about 4.6 billion years old so it is easy to as.sume the earth is about that old.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:14 am |
    • where does god go for vacation

      Examination of DNA shows the earth is older than the 6000 years you are trying to say. Even if the age of the earth is off by a few million years that doesn't discredit the facts of evolution.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:50 am |
  6. Zan

    Creationists believe the world started 10000 yrs ago? So do creationists believe that dinosaurs lived with man like the Flintstones or do they believe that dinosaurs are a myth? Seriously though, Nye was critical of literal interpretation. If you want to believe god created the world, that's alright but don't teach your kids he did it in 10000 years based on 2000+ year old stories transcribed by oral traditions that have been altered, twisted and mistranslated countless times over. Taking stories written to teach morals as fact is just plain foolish, especially since much of those morals don't even apply to modern society.

    September 6, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Jesus Christ

      Dude one of these bizarre christian stories that are taught to kids that I have heard/seen is that jesus was in the united states 5000 years ago, the world was created in its entirety 6000 years ago, and god put dinosaur bones on earth to test man. Look up mormon beliefs (http://exmormon.org/d6/drupal/fourteen) and read some fu***ery. The way mormons sells their story is by saying that they are christians. I agree its one thing to believe these things but its a serious injustice to feed it to the next generation. We did that last generation and gave rise to the tea party.

      September 6, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

      If Jealous gave the earthlings all the details they could have built the bomb sooner, thwarting His purposes. You think He's that nutso?

      September 6, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    • catholic engineer

      Genesis was not interested in the origins of mankind as in the nature of mankind. In a sense, Genesis and evolutionists agree. Apparently, evolutionists believe that humans originated from the primordial slime. Genesis says man came from the dust of the earth. The ideas sound similar. Evolution minded atheists insist that belief in God is a delusion. From Darwin's theories it is a short step to the idea that man is nothing more than a biochemical machine that can process data from the senses. But what works better? A delusion that teaches we should treat each other as children of God? Or Social Darwinism with its idea that "mongrel" humans are not fit to survive and therefore disposable?

      September 6, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • where does god go for vacation

      @CE. That is a false choice. Do you really believe one needs religion to have morals, ethics, etc

      September 6, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      @CE,

      It doesn't sound like you care so much about what is true, as what is comforting.

      Some of us care about what is true.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  7. Jesus Christ

    What most people don't think about is that your religion and set of beliefs is not absolute and is determines highly by you geographical birthplace and time. Say I was born in the middle east most likely I would be Islam or Hindu if I was born in India worshiping gods that is different from yours. If i was born in ancient Rome then Zeus would be the one true god. Just a small factoid to keep in mind before you say that your god is the true and absolute god. Because if your god is then who are Hindus praying to? And if you say a false god, then what do you think they say about your magic god?

    September 6, 2012 at 10:06 am |
    • 1+1=2

      @JC. Ummm you forgot the "H Fukking," as in "jesus h fukking christ." There, fixed it for you.

      September 6, 2012 at 10:31 am |
  8. Dawkins

    Must watch for all creationist trolls...
    Richard Dawkins demonstrates laryngeal nerve of the giraffe

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0&w=640&h=390]

    September 6, 2012 at 9:22 am |
    • tuvia

      ?>>>

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVw3EQ3-Ndw&w=640&h=390]

      ??

      September 6, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • tuvia

      ??

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVw3EQ3-Ndw&w=640&h=390]

      September 6, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • tuvia

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsCSlXe4Vc&w=640&h=390]
      ??

      September 6, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • tuvia

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsCSlXe4Vc&w=640&h=390]

      ??

      September 6, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • tuvia

      B"H

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsCSlXe4Vc&w=640&h=390]
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU

      September 6, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • Clay

      So how does this prove evolution? It was designed that way and has worked perfectly for the last 6000 years! You are also assuming that we think the same as God and you are also assuming we know all. The fact is we don't. Only a few hundred years ago, the human race still thought the world was flat. Besides all of that, if you google this topic, you will see MANY sites refuting this claim scientifically... I doubt you will read it!

      September 6, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • where does god go for vacation

      That's right Clay don't let facts and evidence get in the way of your delusion.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:55 am |
  9. ROMNEY2012

    Democrats are godless heathens

    September 6, 2012 at 8:58 am |
    • Ethel the Aardvark Goes Quanti-ty Surveying

      Troll

      September 6, 2012 at 9:05 am |
    • Dawkins

      Mormons believe in a con artist called Joseph Smith. Christians believe in a fraud magician called Jesus.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • sam stone

      romney is a diseased inbred mother mounting gash

      September 6, 2012 at 9:37 am |
  10. TparTpatriot

    Good! It's about time we fought back against these secularists who think that their religion is the only one that matters! Enough is enough! You have woken up the sleeping creationist giant!

    September 6, 2012 at 8:57 am |
    • Cq

      You mean that the "creationist giant" has slept through the past 200 years of scientific discovery, right?

      September 6, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • sam stone

      tparttpatriot: secularist religion? wow, aren't you the bright one....

      September 6, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • 1+1=2

      You haven't learned to think in a cogent manner, let alone write coherently. Sad. Ignorant fool.

      September 6, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Athy

      "woken up"? Wow. Sounds about third grade level, doesn't it?

      September 6, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • OTOH

      Athy,

      In all fairness, "woken up" is a tricky one... and I'm not all that sure that it is incorrect here (and there is even a different British take on it).
      http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/notorious/wake.htm

      September 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
  11. Greg

    "Nye's argument falls in line with the vast majority of scientists, who date the age of the earth and the universe as 4.5 billion years old."

    That's not true; the vast majority of scientists date the earth at roughly 4.5 billion years, but the universe at much older, roughly 13-14 billion years old.

    September 6, 2012 at 7:55 am |
  12. HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

    Course, you could always have the child genetically tested before birth and kill it if it flunks. That saves a lot of work for allah's devotees. 911 everyday and 20 per cent of americult's population dead! The downside is Jealous might not approve.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:07 am |
    • Ethel the Aardvark Goes Quanti-ty Surveying

      Umm, MUDDY DEAR? If your god does exist, then your god is obviously responsible for doing just what you've described – genetic screening. Do you know what "spontaneous abortion" is? Where the pregnancy self-terminates? For a number of reasons, of course, but primarily because the fetus is not viable. A recent University of Ottawa study estimated the rate of spontaneous abortion to be approximately 50 %. So what's with that? Why is your god putting women and families though the mental, emotional and physical risks and stresses? It doesn't sound like an Intelligently Designed system at work here.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:34 am |
    • Simran

      Anencephaly (without brain) is a neural tube defect that occurs when the head end of the neural tube fails to close, usually during the 23rd and 26th days of pregnancy, resulting in an absence of a major portion of the brain and skull. Infants born with this condition are born without the main part of the forebrain-the largest part of the cerebrum. Infants born with this condition are usually blind, deaf and unconscious. The lack of a functioning cerebrum will ensure that the infant will never gain consciousness. Infants are either stillborn or usually die within a few hours or days after birth.

      Now, if a mother has given birth to a previous child with anencepahaly and she wants to know whether the second child is afflicted or not, and decides to terminate the pregnancy in case the prenantal screen is positive for NTD -– you recommend that she should continue through 9 months of hell, only to deliver a baby who is either born dead, or is a vegetable and will die soon!!!

      September 6, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • Cody

      20? Try 80 in America.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:58 am |
  13. HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

    You guys just want to marry your nieces like Darwin did. Inbreed a little and pop out some bleeders just like European royalty. BGB's, yeah, that's it. Breed, Greed, Bleed!

    September 6, 2012 at 2:42 am |
    • Ethel the Aardvark Goes Quanti-ty Surveying

      Who are the "you guys" referenced in post, MUD? And once you've identified who it is you are referring to, you no doubt will be able to provide us with clear and cogent evidence to support your assertions. You DO understand the concept of requiring sufficient reliable, credible and probative evidence to support a claim or as-sertion, don't you? And I'm sure you also understand that the quality and quanti-ty of evidence required rises as the claim becomes more extraordinary.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:39 am |
  14. Rene

    The religions of Abraham are based on fear. It is no different than terrorism. Imagine telling a young child that unless they follow what you tell them is the word of their god, they will be punished and will go to hell. That poor child, scared out of its wits. So much blood has been spilled in the name of this so called creator. How awful!

    Creationists must believe the dinosaur bones were manufactured by evolutionists and not scientifically dated.

    When John Lennon wrote "Imagine", he said it all:

    "Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace"

    Let us all hope our species wakes up before we kill ourselves in the name of religion.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:41 am |
  15. BILL GATES

    SUN GOD

    MOON GOD

    FISH GOD

    DOG GOD

    CAT GOD

    TREE GOD

    OCEAN GOD

    SNAKE GOD

    FISH GOD

    YES, 1OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OF GODS.....

    YES. there are 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 of gods...

    LOVE THE SNAKE GOD.. SNAKE GOD LOVES YOU...

    SNAKE GOD LOVES YOU.. SNAKE GOD SAVES YOU

    September 6, 2012 at 2:24 am |
    • Simran

      Come to India, WE WORSHIP SNAKE GODS HERE! We actually have an entire festival for them google Naag Panchmi) – but we only love the cobra. Nope, other snakes not worthy of our worship.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:55 am |
  16. napo_leon

    Whatever it is you believe in becomes your reality. Take this story of a group of vultures circling a carcass. After circling for some time, they alighted beside it. Seeing that it wasn't quite dead, the head vulture said to his companions, "A few more circlings should do the trick."

    September 6, 2012 at 2:21 am |
    • Cq

      It becomes your reality, but that doesn't make it the actual reality that all of us live in, right?

      September 6, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • napo_leon

      Cq,

      Exactly.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  17. ScottCA

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQgI4bHpAlA&w=640&h=390]

    September 6, 2012 at 1:25 am |
  18. ScottCA

    A collection of evolution evidence
    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tQIB4UdiY&w=640&h=390]

    September 6, 2012 at 1:05 am |
  19. HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

    Scientists are mere technicians engaged in reverse engineering. Many have seared consciences. Keep em on a short leash.

    September 5, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Ethel the Aardvark Goes Quanti-ty Surveying

      Which supposition does not disprove or negate evolution in any way, shape, or form

      September 5, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
    • Gadflie

      Yep, they can find no evidence to support your cherished myth so there must be something wrong with them.

      September 5, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • deserthermit

      Thinking to much can make you question your faith. Better stay ignorant.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:17 am |
    • ScottCA

      You clearly lack even a child's understanding of the logical use of reason to deduce objects and predict events in the natural world, Otherwise known as science. Science explains discovers objects and predicts events. Religion predicts nothing and explains nothing. Religion is a failed science.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:24 am |
    • Beez

      Perhaps, one day, they may even be able to reverse engineer an M&M large enough so that J.C. may eat it without it falling through the hole in his hand. Oh, I hope so.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:40 am |
    • Ethel the Aardvark Goes Quanti-ty Surveying

      @ Beez; Jesus walks into a hotel, puts a couple of spikes on the reception counter, and says to the manager; "Can you put me up for the night?"

      September 6, 2012 at 7:42 am |
    • HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

      ScottCA, You talk like a man who thinks he invented reason......'Isa 1:18 ¶ Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.'.....That's only a few K years ago.

      September 6, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • HAVE MUD WILL TRAVEL

      Using an evolutionary clock that's like 5 min ago.

      September 6, 2012 at 10:06 am |
  20. chiz3914

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejFDw4yz56o&w=640&h=390]

    September 5, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Sammy

      Try this one, it's more on topic.
      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tapt3XHJO8E&w=640&h=390]

      September 6, 2012 at 1:01 am |
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