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Can Mitt Romney’s evangelical ambassador seal the deal before Election Day?
Mark DeMoss and Mitt Romney at Liberty University, where Romney delivered the commencement address in May.
September 1st, 2012
10:00 PM ET

Can Mitt Romney’s evangelical ambassador seal the deal before Election Day?

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Tampa, Florida (CNN) – The task of selling a Mormon presidential candidate to evangelical America has fallen to a public relations man who’s not even getting paid for what may be the toughest sales job of his career.

For six years, Mark DeMoss has served as Mitt Romney’s unofficial evangelical ambassador, making the case that born-again Christians should help elect the first Mormon to the White House.

It has often been a lonely job.

During this year’s primaries, DeMoss found himself addressing audiences of evangelical leaders in which nearly everyone was rooting for another candidate: Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry – anybody but Romney.

“It would have been tough for anyone other than Mark,” says Richard Land, the public policy chief for the Southern Baptist Convention, remembering how DeMoss performed in one hostile setting last January. “The audience was stacked for Santorum and Gingrich.

“But he has a lot of street cred with evangelicals,” Land says of DeMoss. “He understands us because he’s one of us. So he did great.”

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Now that Romney has outlasted the other candidates to become the Republican nominee for president, DeMoss is using that street cred to help the candidate close the deal with evangelical voters in the weeks before Election Day.

It’s unclear whether he will succeed.

Polls show that although most evangelicals have come around to Romney, there’s a sizable chunk who have not. With those voters making up a huge part of the GOP base in swing states like Ohio, Iowa and Virginia, whether DeMoss’ gambit works could mean the difference between an Obama or a Romney White House.

For DeMoss, who is officially a senior adviser to the Romney campaign, the stakes of his work go well beyond electoral politics. He’s trying to open the American evangelical mind.

“I took this on to tackle prejudicial attitudes,” DeMoss says, explaining how he approached Romney about running for president in 2006, convinced that the then-Massachusetts governor was the most qualified man for the presidency that he’d ever seen.

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“I discussed it with Romney the first time we met,” he continues, sitting in his room at the elegant Vinoy Resort and Golf Club in St. Petersburg, his home during the convention. “It bothered me that some evangelicals said they couldn’t support a Mormon for president. As a public relations guy, I wanted to change that mindset.”

Which is why DeMoss was in front of the North Carolina delegation at the convention Monday morning, arguing that it’s unfair for some Republicans to insist on a presidential nominee with whom they agree about everything.

“My advice to those folks is perhaps you should run yourself the next time,” DeMoss told the evangelical-heavy delegation in a Hilton Hotel ballroom, still abuzz about a powerhouse speech that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie had delivered a few minutes earlier.

“My wife and I have been married for 24 years,” DeMoss said, “and I don’t agree with her on everything.”

Looking professorial in tortoiseshell glasses, a blue blazer and a white polo shirt tucked into khakis, DeMoss never mentioned religion or Romney’s Mormonism.

But you could tell it was a big part of what he was talking about.

It’s why he told the delegation that he has prayed with Mitt Romney and shared scripture with him and has even sought parenting advice from Romney and his wife, Ann.

After years of traveling and visiting with the Romney, DeMoss told the crowd, “I trust his values - for I’m fully convinced they mirror my own.”

It might not sound like much, but an evangelical Christian vouching for a Mormon’s values in front of ballroom full of fellow believers can be a powerful thing.

At least that’s the hope.

Lessons from the Moral Majority

DeMoss developed an appreciation for Mormons from a somewhat unlikely source: the evangelical giant Jerry Falwell.

He enrolled at Liberty University, Falwell’s school, in 1980, the year after his father died of a heart attack. Falwell, a fundamentalist preacher, would become like a second father.

DeMoss’s dad had been friends with Falwell – DeMoss says it’s unclear if the insurance marketing company his father founded, National Liberty Corp., helped give Liberty University its name – and Mark found work in Falwell’s office after graduation.

By the time he was 23, DeMoss was serving as Falwell’s chief of staff and spokesman, helping his boss run a growing evangelical empire that included the Lynchburg, Virginia, university and a new organization Falwell had helped found: the Moral Majority.

The organization aimed to bring evangelicals back into the political fold, after millions of them had spent decades sitting out elections, convinced that politics were a dirty, ungodly business.

“We traveled the country, challenging pastors to get involved. He outworked staff  that were half his age” DeMoss says of Falwell, who died at 73 in 2007.

Mark DeMoss with Jerry Falwell at 1992 Republican Convention in San Diego, California.

Falwell taught him how political organizing works, from the grassroots to the very top. He took him to meetings with President Ronald Reagan, whom the Moral Majority had helped elect, and President George H.W. Bush.

Among the most important lessons Falwell taught, DeMoss says, is that politics is the art of the possible.

“You’d be hard-pressed to find someone who was more politically conservative than Falwell, but he became increasingly pragmatic,” DeMoss says, eating blueberries from a plastic cup in his hotel room. “He was more practical and open-minded than a lot of people saw.”

As he waged crusades against abortion and for prayer in schools, Falwell proudly linked arms with non-evangelicals. While others in the burgeoning Christian Right wanted to organize only among their own flocks, the Moral Majority chief pushed an idea called co-belligerency: people of different religious backgrounds setting aside theological differences to pursue common political goals.

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“A lot of people forget this or didn’t know it to begin with, but the Moral Majority was a coalition of evangelicals, Catholics, Jews and Mormons,” DeMoss says. “It was not an evangelical organization.”

Mormons consider themselves to be Christians, but some evangelicals and other traditional Christians disagree. While Mormons treat the Bible as Scripture, they also consider the Book of Mormon to be a holy book

There are other big differences between Mormonism and traditional Christianity, including the Mormon belief that the modern prophets of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can receive revelations from God. Traditional Christians believe that the period for such revelations is over.

But Falwell’s insistence on coalition building with Mormons and others stuck with DeMoss long after he left the Lynchburg in 1991 to start his own Christian PR firm in Atlanta.

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The firm, called the DeMoss Group, took Falwell as its first client and quickly added business from big Christian groups like Chuck Colson’s Prison Ministries, Franklin Graham’s Samaritan’s Purse and Christian Crusade for Christ.

More than 20 years later, those groups are still with DeMoss.

“What makes Mark different than a lot other guys in this business is that he’s independently wealthy,” says Graham, who notes that DeMoss’ wife, April, is also from a family that started an insurance company.

“I find him to shoot straight because he’s not trying to keep my business,” Graham says. “I think he’s more concerned with trying to be honest. He will bill you and then at the same time he’ll make a big contribution back to you.”

Mark DeMoss with the Rev. Franklin Graham, a client since 1991.

Though DeMoss has kept his work for Romney, which is unpaid, separate from the DeMoss Group, the relationships he built over decades through his PR work are key to selling Romney to evangelical leaders.

Graham had never met Romney before DeMoss arranged for 15 conservative Christian leaders to visit Romney’s Massachusetts home in 2007, when he was preparing to make his first run for president.

As the leaders took turns introducing themselves, many volunteered that they had traveled to Romney’s home mostly because DeMoss had asked them.

By the end of the meeting, Romney had made some new friends.

“Sometimes on TV someone can appear one way but when you meet them face to face you see the personal side of him,” says Graham, recalling the meeting. “After I met Governor Romney I liked him very much and even more l liked his wife and his marriage and his commitment to family.”

As for theological issues that interested some of the evangelicals, Graham says Romney “answered those questions extremely well.”

Since then, DeMoss has helped evangelical leaders not only become more comfortable with the idea of a Mormon in the White House but also with Romney’s evolving position on issues like gay marriage and abortion.

“He’s absolutely trusted as a pro-life person,” Land says of DeMoss. “When he says Governor Romney is pro-life, that means something. That helps.”

Land is among the many evangelical leaders who use DeMoss to relay concerns or advice to the governor.

“Mark’s a trusted negotiator,” says Land, who had dinner with Romney and DeMoss last year.

Though Romney’s 2008 campaign was unsuccessful, DeMoss counted it as a victory that no major evangelical figure came out against him over his faith, even if few publicly endorsed his campaign.

Four years later, there still aren’t many prominent evangelicals who’ve come out publicly for Romney.

And there are questions about where Romney stands with rank-and-file evangelicals. A recent Pew poll found that, while most white evangelicals support Romney, a quarter are uncomfortable with his religion. Just one in five in that group are strongly pro-Romney.

Ten weeks before Election Day, it’s not where a Republican nominee wants a key part of his base to be.

Visiting Salt Lake

DeMoss’ case for why evangelicals can enthusiastically support a Mormon candidate echo Falwell’s arguments about why evangelicals and Mormons should be political allies.

It goes like this: If evangelicals are OK with seeing a Mormon doctor or flying with a Mormon pilot, DeMoss reasons, shouldn’t they be OK with a Mormon president? We’re electing a commander-in-chief, not a pastor-in-chief, right?

Plus, fixing the national economy – the No.1 issue in this election – doesn’t really have anything to do with religion.

In fact, DeMoss was drawn to Romney because of the candidate’s unusual breadth of experience as a businessman, governor and Olympics Committee chief with dual degrees from Harvard.

“On a personal level and a spiritual level, I might care a great deal about what somebody believes doctrinally,” he tells NPR during a phone interview from his room at the Vinroy. “In the case of presidential election, I don’t care.”

After hanging up, DeMoss stays on that point: “I hope I’ve shifted a conversation about the religion of a candidate to one about the values of a candidate.”

DeMoss says that voting on the basis of a candidate’s faith is dangerous and inane. He notes that three of the most successful politicians from his own denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention, are all Democrats whom many evangelical loathe: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Al Gore.

Since January, DeMoss has spent about half his time making such arguments, stressing to clients that the work is not official firm business. Still, he suspects that some potential clients have skipped signing up with the DeMoss Group because its founder and president is pushing a Mormon candidate.

April, his wife, who’s checking her iPhone on the bed of DeMoss’ hotel room, says they’ve lost a few friends over Romney, too. But they’ve also made new Mormons friends, and have developed a deep appreciation for the Mormon faith.

On the van to the hotel to address the North Carolina delegation, Mark and April trade stories with their Mormon driver, a convention staffer, about their respective visits to Salt Lake City, where the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is headquartered.

Later, DeMoss talks about being turned off by the evangelical street preachers he’d seen on the street corners there, preaching to Mormons in town for the church’s annual general assembly. How could such evangelizers hope to convert anybody in the 30 or so seconds it takes to wait for the light to change?

For DeMoss, the episode represents a civility deficit when it comes to the evangelical treatment of Mormons. He sees his work with Romney partly as a corrective.

Whether DeMoss can help soften the evangelical line toward Mormons is an open question. So is whether he can get enough of his brethren to go a giant step further and vote for a Mormon for president.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Christianity • Mitt Romney • Mormonism • Politics

soundoff (1,426 Responses)
  1. doubting thomas

    How can anyone call Mormons Christians, Islam also accepts the bible, the Mormons have 3 other
    books that In my opinion repudiate much of christianity and consider christians to be damned as they consider catholics from satans church and others simply not blessed and going to hell if they dont believe in the book of Mormon and pearl of great price and docrrine and covenents.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
  2. tuvia

    It's true, HOMELAND SECURITY should investigate me. I may be a danger to myself or the people around me. American citizens have the right to have me investigated because of the Patriot Act.

    September 6, 2012 at 10:55 am |
  3. pastmorm

    Joe and Boyd...you're great propaganda machines, but because of the internet we can look up the truth about mormons. We all have the freedom to NOT be brainwashed by your religion any longer. You can spout your articles of faith, your ideas that prophets are required of a church to be true and your book of mormon being true, but archeology has proven your BOM as WRONG, your idea of prophets as Jewish and your articles of faith created by a CROOK that married a 14 year old girl...even though he already had a wife at the time. Let Americans sink their teeth into the truth and your facade will be nothing but a gauzy curtain, much like the one you use in your temples to do your secret handshakes through.

    September 6, 2012 at 10:54 am |
  4. tuvia

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDiJEB7-sx4&w=640&h=390]

    September 6, 2012 at 10:50 am |
    • old ben

      more religious retardation from tuvia

      September 6, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
  5. tuvia

    <<<

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsCSlXe4Vc&w=640&h=390]

    September 6, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • old ben

      even more religious retardedness

      September 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  6. tuvia

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsCSlXe4Vc&w=640&h=390]

    September 6, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • pastmorm

      tuvia...you're a little scary. I think someone needs to report you to homeland security. You are showing signs of megalomania by posting the same thing on all belief blogs as well as coming across as threatening to our current President.

      September 6, 2012 at 10:46 am |
  7. tuvia

    ?????????/

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVw3EQ3-Ndw&w=640&h=390]

    September 6, 2012 at 10:31 am |
  8. tuvia

    MR. ROMNEY, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    LET MY PEOPLE GO SENETOR HILLIARY CLINTON
    AND PRESIDENT OBAMA. LET JONATHAN POLLARD GO NOW
    LET JONATHAN POLLARD GO NOW. ORK NOW
    THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

    Rabbi Chaim Richman answers President Obama's Cairo
    speech
    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=390]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyBZhTaf1oU

    September 5, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
  9. tuvia

    B"H

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=390]

    IMMEDIATE NEWS RELEASE

    PLEASE ASK THE CANDIDATE THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.
    JONATHAN POLLARD HAS SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN PRISON.
    IT IS TIME THAT HE IS PARDONED

    LET MY PEOPLE GO SENETOR HILLIARY CLINTON AND hussein OBAMA. LET JONATHAN POLLARD GO NOW
    LET MY PEOLE GO

    Rabbi Chaim Richman answers President Obama's Cairo speech

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=390]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyBZhTaf1oU

    WORLD VS ISRAEL. HILLARY CLINTON-THIS IS A MESSAGE FOR YOU – LET MY PEOPLE GO. FREE JONATHAN POLLARD NOW. LET MY PEOPLE GO BARRAK HUSSEIN OBAMA – NOW!
    The Land of Israel is the Promised Land given to our forefathers Abraham Isaac and Jacob and is given to us, their seed, as an everlasting Inheritance.
    PLEASE PLAY ON YOUR NETWORK NOW
    THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=390]

    !>>

    September 5, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • old ben

      This is bull sh it. Also this Jonathan Pollard is a highly unstable traitor. Keep him where he is.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  10. Glass Plus

    Jonathan Pollard should have been summarily executed for treason.

    September 5, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • sam stone

      he should have been soaked in pig blood first

      September 5, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • PAUL

      I Agree wholeheartedly!

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmigBOhYTns&w=640&h=390]

      September 5, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
  11. tuvia

    B"H

    SHALOM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
    YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A GREAT SHABBOS.
    HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

    SHALOM, YOM TOV.
    TUVIA

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=390]

    ??//

    September 5, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • Joe

      There is more censorship here than anywhere, but I'll keep trying to tell more truths about Obama: Another interesting thing about Obama's "Christianity" is that the good REv. Wright has explained that Obama tried to (financially encourage) Wright into silence about what is really going on with Obama. Wright rejected the money, and Obama said it was a problem that Wright had to be honest...Wright said "that's a good problem to have." Apparently one of the things Obama wants to hide is that he is still clings to the religion of his polygamous father. Perhaps this is why he sends certain groups to the place Mitt mentioned (not by the bus, but another location) but then, I didn't understand why he has aligned himself with the "Special Interest Moffia this quote has shed some light: the quote was from the Washington Post, about how Obama changed his position on gay marriage for financial reasons...... to get elected, can't post it.

      September 5, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  12. tuvia

    B"H

    SHALOM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
    YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A GREAT SHABBOS.
    HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

    SHALOM, YOM TOV.
    TUVIA

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=390]

    DOES THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

    DOES HE AND THE REST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

    WANT THE TORAH?

    DO THEY WANT THE ISRAELITES, THE LEVIHIM AND THE KOHANIM AND DOES THE WORLD AND WILL YOU PLEASE
    ASK MR. ROMNEY, AND HIS CONVENTION THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.

    WE THE ISRAELITES, THE LEVIHIM AND THE KOHANIM
    WE WANT TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE WORLD TO
    BUILD THE 3RD TEMPLE.

    WE WANT TO ADVANCE THE EDUCATION TO THE WORLD
    THROUGH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    THE TEMPLE INSITUTE IN JERSUSALEM WILL HELP THE
    MINISTRY OF EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES WITH
    PERMISSION.

    MR. ROMNEY THE FOLLOWING QUESTION IS DIRECTED TO YOU.

    DO YOU MOURN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE SECOND TEMPLE AND WILL YOU ALLOW THE ISRAELITES, THE LEVIHIM AND THE KOHANIM TO SERVE HASHEM IN THE LAND

    PLEASE ASK THE CANDIDATE THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.

    JONATHAN POLLARD HAS SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN PRISON.

    IT IS TIME THAT HE IS PARDONED.

    WILL THE PRESIDENT PARDON JONTATHAN POLLARD ON

    THE PLATFORM OF HUMANITARIANISM

    WILL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE TO LET
    JONATHAN POLLARD GO BACK TO ISRAEL
    WITH HIS WIFE ESTER AND LIVE THEIR LIVES IN
    ISRAEL ONCE IF POSSIBLE THE PRESIDENT
    AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE TO THIS.
    LET MY PEOPLE GO. PLEASE PARDON JONATHAN POLLARD
    MR. PRESIDENT.

    THANK YOU,

    TUVIA

    B"H

    LET MY PEOPLE GO SENETOR HILLIARY CLINTON
    AND PRESIDENT OBAMA. LET JONATHAN POLLARD GO NOW
    LET JONATHAN POLLARD GO NOW. WHAT WAS IS AND WILL BE
    IN THE FUTURE. LET MY PEOPLE GO. LET JONATHAN POLLARD GO.

    September 5, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Joe

      CNN won't let me post a reply, but there was a good article on Fox, about Mitt's "throw under the Bus comment." Obama has also aligned himself with those who would "destroy" specific religious minority groups: especially Mormons, I can't post info though. The filters block everything. Check out Daas Torah though, article about pride parade, Jersey girl comments.

      September 5, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
  13. tuvia

    B"H

    SHALOM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
    YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A GREAT SHABBOS.
    HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

    SHALOM, YOM TOV.
    TUVIA

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=390]

    DOES THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

    DOES HE AND THE REST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

    WANT THE TORAH?

    DO THEY WANT THE ISRAELITES, THE LEVIHIM AND THE KOHANIM AND DOES THE WORLD AND WILL YOU PLEASE
    ASK MR. ROMNEY, AND HIS CONVENTION THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.

    WE THE ISRAELITES, THE LEVIHIM AND THE KOHANIM
    WE WANT TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE WORLD TO
    BUILD THE 3RD TEMPLE.

    WE WANT TO ADVANCE THE EDUCATION TO THE WORLD
    THROUGH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    THE TEMPLE INSITUTE IN JERSUSALEM WILL HELP THE
    MINISTRY OF EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES WITH
    PERMISSION.

    MR. ROMNEY THE FOLLOWING QUESTION IS DIRECTED TO YOU.

    DO YOU MOURN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE SECOND TEMPLE AND WILL YOU ALLOW THE ISRAELITES, THE LEVIHIM AND THE KOHANIM TO SERVE HASHEM IN THE LAND

    PLEASE ASK THE CANDIDATE THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.

    JONATHAN POLLARD HAS SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN PRISON.

    IT IS TIME THAT HE IS PARDONED.

    WILL THE PRESIDENT PARDON JONTATHAN POLLARD ON

    THE PLATFORM OF HUMANITARIANISM

    WILL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE TO LET
    JONATHAN POLLARD GO BACK TO ISRAEL
    WITH HIS WIFE ESTER AND LIVE THEIR LIVES IN
    ISRAEL ONCE IF POSSIBLE THE PRESIDENT
    AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE TO THIS.
    LET MY PEOPLE GO. PLEASE PARDON JONATHAN POLLARD
    MR. PRESIDENT.

    THANK YOU,

    TUVIA

    September 5, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  14. God

    Thank myself I'm a Hindu and I don't have to deal with all of this nonsense!

    September 5, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  15. jonny Chepe

    Obama belonged to the Black Liberation Theology church...a belief system wherein Black Pride and Black Power takes precedence over the figure of God – a belief system rooted in the works of James Cone, author of Black Theology and Black Power, that in 1969 stated the following: "The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people…Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man 'the devil".
    Cone went on to declare White society as an extension of the Anti-Christ, and all "White" churches as being inherently racist. This is the church upon whose teachings Barack and Michelle Obama both attended for over 20 years.
    I didn't see NBC, ABC, CBS nor CNN even attempt to research the teachings of the Black Liberation Theology church. Maybe I missed it. But it didn't take them very long to take a wack at the Mormon religion. Now who is it again that's just happens to be a Mormon? Just consider the extreme prejudice and media bias that's at work here. After all, Chris Mathews did have a tingling feeling running up and down his leg however, I think that it was really Anderson Cooper under the table copping a feel.....who knows????

    September 5, 2012 at 4:05 am |
    • jonny Chepe

      Well ok, I have to admit that I was the one that Anderson Cooper was coping a feel with under the table. Mormons have an anti-gay program called Evergreen and even though I went through it (with electro-shock treatment) I still love me a MAN!

      September 5, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • Joe

      Jonny, nice try, but Evergreen is a gay group, they aren't against themselves, and the old "THE MORMONS TORTURED ME CAUSE I"M GAY!!!!!" thing is a fun interesting tall tale, but if you have nothing else to help you get Obama elected maybe you should just try to do what is best for everyone and vote for someone who knows what he's doing.... : )

      September 5, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • pastmorm

      Joe, you're not only ignorant, but your a little crazy (from readying your rantings on here). Evergreen is an anti-gay psychological program used for (attempting) changing gays into straight people. If you can't get the information right then shut up. If you're a mormon, you're typical ignoramus. If you're just attacking people because you're in a psych ward then we all feel sorry for you. But don't lie and don't spread ignorance when people can look things up for themselves.

      September 6, 2012 at 10:51 am |
  16. Joe

    Reply to comments below is not posting, so trying here with partial: 1 Mormons view Joseph Smith the same as they view Peter, Paul, Moses, Abraham etc, as MORTAL men who were called by Jesus to teach certain things. 2 Mormons do believe the ancient Christian doctrine of deification, but this was taught by Jesus in the Bible, "all" early Church Fathers, Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, etc. (go to FAIR lds, and search "deification" or "theosis" or "Restoring the ancient Church" by Bickmore etc. It is not a Satanic doctrine, it is a Christian doctrine.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:55 am |
    • Jesus Christ

      Joe, I don't recognize your mormon cult as a religion or as christian. Just because some crook of a man creates a religion doesn't mean it's good. Joseph Smith was a crook, so were most of his original followers. Mental disease ran rampant among them as they committed the Mountain Meadow Massacre...so please don't think that you are holy. You're misled and wrong.

      September 5, 2012 at 9:05 am |
    • Joe

      anti-JC I know that your instructions from liberals are to something something "Catholic, Mormon and evangelicals" (search Bohnett, also on CNA) and you are to "can show them being criticized, hated, shunned" (search "Crafting Gay Children" Dr. Judith Reisman. Also, check out the article I listed on Daas Torah discussing a pride parade in Israel, and, “Somewhere Ernst Roehm must be laughing, etc. There is much more going on with these activists than meets the eye. They have been trained to do certain things to certain religious people, including the predominant religion in Israel, and Christians.

      September 5, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
  17. donner

    go to YouTube and search "Banned Mormon Cartoon" If you can watch this and still vote for Romney, America is doomed.

    September 5, 2012 at 12:21 am |
    • Joe

      SO, it's clear that liberals have employed a bunch of activists (mainly gay activists) to malign Mormons and stir up bigotry, while pretending to be Christian etc. The big question is, then, how do you feel about Obama lying about his religion, and now aligning himself with the liberal special interest groups whose job it is to attack Christianity 24/7? : )

      September 5, 2012 at 3:28 am |
    • sam stone

      joe: paranoid much?

      September 5, 2012 at 4:43 am |
    • Joe

      Checked out your "banned" flick, it was so funny, an anti-Mormon movie from the eighties. If ya'll don't have anything better than this to push the gay agenda, you should just vote for someone who knows what he's doing.......rather than...."we may have put your kids into debt by trillions with all that money made in China, and all those jobs we sent overseas, but still vote Obama, just cause we are thinking of your children's future........!!!!!! YAY, even more tears for 4 more years!!!!!!!"

      September 5, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • sam stone

      Joe: What is this "gay agenda" you speak of? Equal treatment under the law?

      September 5, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • sam stone

      Come on, Joey....if you got a point, make it. What is this "gay agenda" you blather on about?

      September 5, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • Joe

      Well sammy, you and I know what your agenda is, and I think CNN knows (others can read "Crafting Gay Children" Reisman.... problem is, since CNN knows, they have worked their censorship to delete all such honest talk about a destructive liberal agenda. Still, we live in America, and we can find out, we have google.... : )

      I'll try a few more quotes below, we'll see what happens. Maybe something about the Socialist Party and their iron crosses, and Obama being a card carrying member of the "New Socialist Party," or maybe I can delete enough of the Washington Post quote to get it here (and the WP is also liberal media, so you know they aren't going to let too much truth through either, not sure why CNN has issues with that one.....?)

      September 5, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • sam stone

      How surprising, Joey...you dance around it and don't answer the question. What is this agenda you speak of?

      September 5, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Everyman

      Come on Joe, we are all waiting. We all want to hear...or did you take your meds and we have to wait for them to wear low again?

      September 5, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • sam stone

      we are still waiting, joe.

      can you answer the question, or are you merely another jesus sucking blowhard?

      September 6, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • GayAgenda

      To make abominable things legal.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:04 am |
    • Everyman

      You mean like the snowman? That's it! If they make the abominable snowman legal I don't know whats next...

      September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
  18. Agnostic Atheism is Healthy for Kids and Grown-Ups Too!

    Let your kids be all that they can be. Just teach them that there are:

    1. Things we know that are unfounded and most likely political sales literature from the beginning of mankind (all religions); and
    2. Things that we don't know a damn thing about (god/deities).

    An agnostic approach regarding deities keeps us honest about what we don't know anything about, but also prevents unfounded junk from #2 above (religion) from dirtying up our rational thinking on the matter.

    So instead of praying to make-believe characters and trying to get others to follow the political garbage from long ago, just sit down, put on some good jazz, and collect you damn thoughts. My goodness.

    I am mama kindless and I approve this message.

    September 4, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • Joe

      SO, it is unclear, do you think we should vote against Obama because of his faiths (Islam/nominal Christianity etc) or vote for him?

      September 5, 2012 at 3:30 am |
  19. Dyslexic doG

    the upcoming election will prove two points.
    (a) that christians are believers according to convenience, and
    (b) that republican christians are republicans first and christians second

    Romney is a mormon which is a religion that, as well as co-optingsome parts and characters from the bible word for word, also contradicts and makes a mockery of so many key christian religious beliefs that it should be a bigger issue to christians than gay marriage and abortion. But ... the same way as christians always pick and choose which parts of the bible to loudly proclaim and which parts of the bible to pretend don't exist ... they will ignore all these issues and vote for Romney anyway.

    What do you think God/Jesus will think of you if you give your vote to a man who truly believes that he will one day be a God? Or a man who truly believes that Joseph Smith, a 19th century reknowned con-man, is an equal of Jesus?

    Go on christans, pretend you never read this post. Find some obscure bible quote that will justify you supporting a cult. What a joke!

    September 4, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • 2Sliqq

      As someone who had a bout with Mormonism for a year in high school, I really appreciate the way you expressed this! Is there anything more Satanic than believing you are on the path to be worshipped the way God is worshipped now? Isn't this just a re-hashing of the serpent's promise to Adam & Eve if they partook of the fruit? It's literally the oldest trick in the book! The promise of "godhood" is a hell-sent flaming arrow aimed directly at the core of human pride.

      September 4, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      I may not like his religion but I like his politics. Funny I thought that is what the election was about.

      September 4, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • Everyman

      So Bill, in addition to liking his politics you don't mind that he keeps money in off shore accounts not paying taxes on them? You don't mind his record with buying companies up, loading them with debt and then sucking every dollar out before selling the company off before it went bankrupt...not to mention the outsourcing jobs to foreign countries.

      September 4, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Boyd

      The Articles of Faith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
      History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535–41

      1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

      2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

      3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

      4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

      5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

      6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

      7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

      8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

      9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

      10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

      11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

      12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

      13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

      Joseph Smith.

      September 5, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • Boyd

      Joseph Smith believed as lds believes that Jesus Christ was the son of God and it IS ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST THAT WE MAY RETURN TO LIVE WITH OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. THIS AS THE THINGS LISTED ABOVE ARE OUR CORE BELIEFS. Evangelicals I would stress that you should get to know us. We do share common beliefs even though there are many differences. know that we are not your enemy. know that probably everything you have been taught is through Anti-mormon material that may be false BUT IS ALMOST ALWAYS MISLEADING. You should get to know your LDS friends and look to non anti-mormon material such as http://www.lds.org to know what the gospel really means to us. I am not asking you to change but to understand from our point of view. I believe we are all children of God and I love my savior Jesus Christ and i do not go around asking myself what am i going to do today that I might become a God. We are not taught to be that way. We are taught on the Saviors love and how to live a Christlike life. take care my friend and God bless you.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:16 am |
    • eNJay

      @Boyd

      Very well put!

      September 6, 2012 at 11:11 am |
  20. Captain Moroni

    Moroni 10:3-5

    September 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
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