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Opinion: American Muslims live in fear 11 years after 9/11
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September 11th, 2012
02:56 PM ET

Opinion: American Muslims live in fear 11 years after 9/11

Editor's note: Sumbul Ali-Karamali is the author of "The Muslim Next Door: the Qur’an, the Media, and that Veil Thing, and Growing up Muslim: Understanding the Beliefs and Practices of Islam." She is on the steering committee of Women in Islamic Spirituality and Equality and is a member of the Muslim Women’s Global Shura Council, both of which aim to promote women’s rights and human rights from an Islamic perspective.

By Sumbul Ali-Karamali, Special to CNN

(CNN) - My father always told me never to talk about religion, politics, or other people’s children. He was part of a generation of American Muslims who wanted to stay quiet and assimilate into American life and not rock the boat. Growing up in Southern California, I tried to follow his advice.

But after 9/11, I found that I, along with other American Muslims, have had little choice but to talk about religion.

Although countless Muslims have condemned the acts of 9/11 in the United States and worldwide, American Muslims became objects of suspicion.

Read the full Opinion piece on CNN In America
- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 9/11 • Islam • Muslim • Opinion

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  1. Bob

    As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
    United States - Muslim 1.0%
    Australia - Muslim 1.5%
    Canada - Muslim 1.9%
    China - Muslim 1%-2%
    Italy - Muslim 1.5%
    Norway - Muslim 1.8%
    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
    Denmark - Muslim 2%
    Germany - Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom - Muslim 2.7%
    Spain - Muslim 4%
    Thailand - Muslim 4.6%
    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
    They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves - along with threats for failure to comply.( United States ).
    France - Muslim 8%
    Philippines - Muslim 5%
    Sweden - Muslim 5%
    Switzerland - Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands - Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad &Tobago - Muslim 5.8%
    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
    Guyana - Muslim 10%
    India - Muslim 13.4%
    Israel - Muslim 16%
    Kenya - Muslim 10%
    Russia - Muslim 10-15%
    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
    Ethiopia - Muslim 32.8%
    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
    Bosnia - Muslim 40%
    Chad - Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon - Muslim 59.7%
    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
    Albania - Muslim 70%
    Malaysia - Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar - Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan - Muslim 70%
    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
    Bangladesh - Muslim 83%
    Egypt - Muslim 90%
    Gaza - Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia - Muslim 86.1%
    Iran - Muslim 98%
    Iraq - Muslim 97%
    Jordan - Muslim 92%
    Morocco - Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan - Muslim 97%
    Palestine - Muslim 99%
    Syria - Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan - Muslim 90%
    Turkey - Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates - Muslim 96%
    100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam'– the Islamic House of Peace - there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
    Afghanistan - Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia - Muslim 100%
    Somalia - Muslim 100%
    Yemen - Muslim 99.9%
    Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.– Leon Uris,'The Haj'.

    September 11, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Very informative. The way to stop this is to reject all faith based religious nonsense. This way we can reject religious dangers without being at all hypocritical by singling out just one specific faith.

      September 12, 2012 at 12:46 am |
    • ScottCA

      Out of curiosity alone can you cite where these stats came from? Were they presented in a book? I would like to know. I agree with your statement, but I am curious where to find this information.

      September 12, 2012 at 12:53 am |
    • Shovel Ready

      @Scott
      It's from a book. Bob is plagiarizing these words.

      Look up "Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat", written by Dr. Peter Hammond
      The quote is also on articles about the book. You're welcome.

      September 12, 2012 at 5:13 am |
  2. Reality

    STOP THE PRESSES:

    TO MY SISTER AND BROTHER MUSLIMS: THERE IS A PEACEFUL AND EASY SOLUTION AND IT TAKES LESS THAN TWO MINUTES OF YOUR TIME.

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi----–

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

    (Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..)

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    "1. Belief in Allah"

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

    "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

    "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

    Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    September 11, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
  3. Chad

    Islamic extremism isnt isolated, entire countries are part of it (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, ,Pakistan, Syria, Sudan).

    This is no isolated fringe element, this rabid, irrational hatred is wide spread enough that it could reasonably be called a main stream belief.

    So, what is the rest of the Muslim world doing to combat this?

    September 11, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
  4. salt

    Every knee shall bow, to the Glory of God the Father, it does not matter what you beleive.. or not... EVERY knee ....you heard...... and will remember these words...... when you are bowing.....

    September 11, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    • ScottCA

      You are insane seek therapy for the good of all. If not then a Darwin award will be awaiting you when you conclude your life.

      September 11, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Of course, there's not a single shred of evidence to support the existence of any god, so you may be down on your knees a long time. I hope your wearing knee pads.

      September 11, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • danielwalldammit

      except no.

      September 12, 2012 at 3:00 am |
  5. salt

    In the end... EVERY knee shall bow, and EVERY tongue shall confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD to the GLORY OF GOD, THE FATHER....Period. It DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER YOU BELEIVE IN THIS OR THAT.. EVERY.... knee.....SHALL BOW....ya heard!

    September 11, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Wow you belong in a Steven King book spewing venomous religious threats like that. Nothing you said changes the fact that there is no evidence for the existence of god. You are delving into imaginative fantasy and pure insanity based on no evidence. You are dangerous due to your delusional mind.

      September 11, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
  6. EddietheIfidel

    Horsecrap!!! American muslims are "living in fear" from bacon being left on the doorstep of their mosques or in a Staten Island park? Or maybe from spraypaint on doors of their holy places, like Jews have had to endure swastikas painted on their synagogues for years?

    The victim crap is getting old, muslim brothers and sisters...accept that some of your co-religionists are indeed radicals that wish to see America overthrown and do something, ANYTHING, to change it if you want to be a part of our society.

    Else, go back to the sharia paradise you came from.....

    September 11, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • danielwalldammit

      Horsecrap, ...what a wonderful description of the rest of your post.

      September 12, 2012 at 3:02 am |
  7. ScottCA

    When the glasses come off you know Dawkins is going to kick some mental @SS
    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu7AQTs_y5A&w=640&h=390]

    September 11, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
  8. ScottCA

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj9oB4zpHww&w=640&h=390]

    September 11, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
  9. Yawn

    This is the mostest boringest blogiest everist.

    September 11, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Muslims may be boring and stupid, but this is one boring stupid faith that ends up killing many people.
      This is a belief we cannot tolerate.

      September 11, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
  10. hawaiiguest

    @fred

    Nice job completely changing the entire discussion.

    The bible says one group will be violent towards the "children of god". Doesn't the bible also state that everyone is a child of god? So it's just saying one group will always be violent to someone outside of it. OOOO so spooky and profound.

    September 11, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Considering that these religious groups were constantly hacking each other to death and committing suicide since the beginning of these faiths, it was just evident clearly in the world around them and accepted that people were violent to each other, and they all believed in different gods. Really it kind of is saying what atheists are saying. Religion drives people to kill people of other religions.

      September 11, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
  11. Iqbal Khan

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx8IJoRL6cE&w=640&h=390]

    September 11, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
  12. Iqbal Khan

    Check these out..

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32420.htm

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32421.htm

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32419.htm

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32418.htm

    September 11, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
  13. Muneef

    Seems the Dove Church Prist has made it again but this time not by burning the Quran but rather by a movie that insulted the Muslims Prophet..which has caused an upraise in the Islamic world starting with Egypt and Libya as a result the American Embassy and Consulate we're attacked by angry population and God knows what will happen tomorrow in the rest of the Islamic world...isn't it time to stop such mad men from hurting other people rocking the boat causing global unrest at such difficult times?

    September 11, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      hindu gentile filthy salve follower of hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism labeled as Christians of hindu Jew's, filthy secular s will do any thing to please their hindu , filthy goon man God's, including sacrifice of Americans on their alter. time for real Americans to awake up and put hinduism terrorism of hindu Jew's, terrorist self centered and their hindu gentile's terrorist slave to an end, not just for well being of America but whole humanity, To learn truth about hinduism, criminality of hindu Jew's, filthy self centered and their hindu gentile's, terrorist slave Christians please visit limitisthetruth.com/blog.html and click on word choice to open file.

      September 11, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Yawn

      Muneef, why are you talking to yourself?

      September 11, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
  14. Southern Man

    I am a white, God fearin', Jesus lovin', flag wavin' American and I love my God and Country. Any a them diaper headed commie ba.s.t.a.rds comes on my property I will shoot first and ask questions later. I am sick and terd of these rats taking over MY country.

    September 11, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      You are a hindu, ignorant, believer of a hindu fabricated god, named Jesus, hindu racist, believer of hinduism, racism, borene out of hinduism, incest and making love to your mother and sister, deserve not to be among human but your own hindu, filthy kind, hindu rabid pig's. self centerd, deserve to be shot to get you out of your hindusim, misery and good health of. humanity, To be cleansed of your hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism visit visit limitisthetruth.com/blog.html and click on word choice to open file.

      September 11, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • Southern Man

      I'm so sick of these atheists. . uh wait a minute – mom's calling from the next trailer – I have to take the trash out.

      September 11, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
  15. fred

    .

    +
    Thank you !

    September 11, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • Southern Man

      What in the sam hell is wrong with you son?

      September 11, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Let us know, after you are done making love to your mother, as one of your elder, Roman Nero, and we will shoot you to stop you from burning USA, as he brunet Rom. for more visit limitisthetruth.com/blog.html and click on word choice to open file.

      September 11, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
  16. G. Zeus Kreiszchte

    First, ALL religions are stupid as $h|+!!! But then, no one should have to live in fear in the US for what they believe. This also includes radical Muslims shutting the F up when the South Park guys want to put a "Mohammed" character on their show. If you want a nice, comfortable place to live that completely caters to Muslims, then move the F back to the Middle East, or even Southeast Asia would probably work out for you. If you want to live here in harmony, then quit trying to change everything, like you're some kind of special needs case!

    September 11, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
  17. ScottCA

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76FgwKHfzpM&w=640&h=390]

    September 11, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
  18. ScottCA

    Episode 1 Part 3

    September 11, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    September 11, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Prayer makes rational sane grown human beings into utterly foolish children speaking to imaginary friends that they have no evidence for existing.

      September 11, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • nope

      @scout
      nope

      September 11, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi prayerbot.

      September 11, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  20. ScottCA

    Islam just like all faith based religious parasitic memes needs to die. The cure for this ignorance is knowledge. Faith based religion dies when ignorance dies.

    September 11, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • ScottCA

      The root of all evil
      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_1Gpt6dKFo&w=640&h=390]

      September 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • ScottCA

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PN45mQUbUk&w=640&h=390]

      September 11, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Episode 1 part 3
      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXJRxsnwQww&w=640&h=390]
      =

      September 11, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • ScottCA

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhIAdcUn5qQ&w=640&h=390]

      September 11, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • ScottCA

      P art 5/5
      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76FgwKHfzpM&w=640&h=390]

      September 11, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • fred

      Faith is that which reveals what cannot be seen by the 5 senses which are subject to the limitations of materialism. There is the knowledge of science and then there is the knowledge of God both of which are part of our human experience. Knowledge of God does not translate into ignorance of the world around us it enhances our understanding

      September 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • .

      +

      http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/CGG/ID/15352/Ignorance-as-Refusal-Know.htm

      September 11, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • fred

      .

      +
      Thank you !

      September 11, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Faith means to believe in something for no good reason, thus it cannot tell us anything about what we ought to do or should do. Both of these require reasons based in Logic.

      Faith based religion fails to predict anything and has no evidence whatsoever to support it. It is nothing but the imaginative fantasy of madmen.

      September 11, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
    • fred

      ScottCA
      That would be your limited definition of Faith. Abraham, Moses, David and Paul were men of faith yet they were also great leaders and among the brightest most powerful minds in their day. King Solomon was no dummy and made it clear that the knowledge of books cannot approach what faith in God can reveal.
      Specifically to your issues:
      “Faith means to believe in something for no good reason”
      =>no, faith opens up the realities of God. Belief in God that follows is a lifetime of experiences with God that confirm what was revealed.
      “ it cannot tell us anything about what we ought to do or should do”
      =>sorry but, Abraham left the stable land of his family for an unknown country because of faith. He was guided by his faith.
      “Both of these require reasons based in Logic.”
      =>correct it is logical to do as God directs.
      “Faith based religion fails to predict anything”
      =>every one of Gods promises in the Bible came to pass……….a perfect record.
      “has no evidence whatsoever to support it”
      =>there is an unlimited amount of empirical observation that faith transforms lives. If you refer to evidence for God in the physical you are correct as God is not composed of physical matter.
      “It is nothing but the imaginative fantasy of madmen.”
      =>no, not imagined but very real in effect and affect on our lives. There is living power in the name of Lord evokes strong response. Do you have fantasies that have the power to change lives?

      September 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Yay for blind assertions with nothing to actually back it up. Not that anything less is expected.

      September 11, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • fred

      hawaiiguest
      Empirical observations of countless transformed lives cannot be dismissed. Empirical observation reveals that faith does allow the believer to see that which could not be seen before happens regularly and consistently.

      September 11, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      *Yawn*

      Same tired ass argument over and over. Get over it fred, personal experience is necessarily first person, and has absolutely no logical bearing on anyone else.
      There's also that pesky part that every religion can claim the same thing you do, so unless you want to accept all religions, then the personal experience argument is utterly useless.
      Oh wait wait, lemme guess, satan is giving the change to all the other religions and denominations that vary too much (arbitrarily) from your interpretation just to confuse everyone, right? Right?

      September 11, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Fred.. faith is also what drives the issues we are having with muslims currently rampaging and attacking embassies because of a movie. Or is their faith not the correct one? If this is what faith is we can do with out it. I think prefer reason.

      September 11, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • fred

      EvolvedDNA
      Simply because man misdirects faith does not invalidate faith. One need only compare the actions of Muslims with what Jesus made clear to see faith that comes from Satan and faith that is of God. There is no mistaken.

      September 11, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • fred

      hawaiiguest
      The Muslim, Hebrew and Christian faiths have their roots in the same scripture. If you go back to Genesis we see that the Muslims (decedents of Ishmael) would kick against the chosen children of God until the end of days. Today is 9/11 and the truth of Scripture is before your eyes yet you deny it. What is your explanation for the 5,000 year old stories of Genesis playing out to this day? Coincidence?

      September 11, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @fred

      Nice job completely changing the entire discussion.

      The bible says one group will be violent towards the "children of god". Doesn't the bible also state that everyone is a child of god? So it's just saying one group will always be violent to someone outside of it. OOOO so spooky and profound.

      September 11, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • Jake-413451

      @Fred
      Sorry, but you are wrong. These men of "great faith" did not rely upon faith. Each of them were handed physical proof of a god.

      Well according to myth at least.
      Abraham was sent an Angel and a Ram
      Moses performed a number of rater famous party tricks, including turning his staff into a living serpent
      David, well which one? King David. He was given at the very least sign after sign, prophets telling him things that were known only to him. So a bit subjective, 'tis true, but how about this, what number am I thinking of?
      Paul, which one, doesn't much matter actually as I understand it all were given some form of physical proof.

      The thing is the bible is full of stories of men who today are said to have had great faith. But what was that faith built on, what do the myths say. Each were given not only messages but physical evidence. Miracles not only without explanation, but that deny explanation. Like a stick into a snake.

      But every other religions of that age told such stories, so if we are just going off what the stories say then they are al true. So how about this, repeat those miracles.
      Heal an amputee
      Turn from water into wane
      Transform a stick into a living snake.

      If you can't, well maybe the God of the bible isn't with you and your ilk.
      Then again it could also just be it is of the same reliability as the other myths of that age, just that it's followers are still around. Because it seems the ability of Christians to perform miracles has declined steadily as our ability to verify claims has improved.

      September 11, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Abraham, Moses, and David were surely mythical. There is no debate about that in scholarly circles. Paul is more complicated. He is a conflation of at least 2 people, and certainly did not exists the way you think of one person.
      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbzF8qO5HCQ&w=640&h=390]

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDSUTjxNuiU&w=640&h=390]

      September 11, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDSUTjxNuiU&w=640&h=390]

      September 11, 2012 at 10:54 pm |
    • fred

      realbuckyball
      July 21, 1993, archaeologists found basalt rock inscribed in Aramaic. It was part of a victory pillar erected by the king of Syria. The inscription, which dates to the ninth century bce includes the words Beit David ("House" or "Dynasty" of David").

      May 2012 Three shrines were discovered that reflect an architectural style dating back as early as the time of King David

      September 12, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Jeff Williams

      """Faith is that which reveals what cannot be seen by the 5 senses which are subject to the limitations of materialism"""

      It does no such thing.

      What faith reveals is ignorance.

      September 13, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • fred

      Jeff
      That is a blanket statement which only applies to those who follow their own ignorance regardless of faith. As an example the founding fathers have faith to various degrees and the 56 out of 56 original signatories on the Declaration of Independence were signed by men of faith that unanimously reflected on the “Creator” and closed with an appeal to the “Supreme”. They were great men and far from ignorant. Whatever level of faith they had did not add to ignorance.
      In the event you question these 56 representatives here is their closing; “We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the recti-tude of our intentions,…..”

      September 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
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